from http://goodspeedhistories.com/tag/robins-family/ The Two Taverns At Robins Hill article (4 parts) ... 1.png = The old Robins house, c.1725, as seen from Route 579 2.png = The 1723 house of Daniel Robins 3.png = Daniel Robins' 200 acres 4.png = Division of Simon Myers' farm for his heirs, 1815 5.png = The 60.5 acres in two lots, sold to Daniel Robins by Samuel & Mary Kitchen on July 1, 1760, from Ms. Deed Collection 18, No. 15 in oversize deeds, Hunterdon Co. Historical Society 6.jpg = Site of the original Robins and Buchanan’s Taverns 7.png = The 60.5 acres in two lots, sold to Daniel Robins by Samuel & Mary Kitchen on July 1, 1760, from Ms. Deed Collection 18, No. 15 in oversize deeds, Hunterdon Co. Historical Society 8.png = from U.S.G.S. Stockton, NJ - PA, 1954, revised 1970 9.png = The John Robins House 10.png = Original section of the Micek house, which faces south down Route 579 Daniel Robins' House article ... first pic is embedded and same as 2.png 11.jpg = Date stone for Daniel Robins' house Buchanan's A Tavern With A Long History article ... 12.jpg = The old Buchanan/Trout Tavern, currently owned by the Micek family. NOTES CONCERNING MARFY GOODSPEED ARTICLE'S .... Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@cox.net turkeypt2 Date: Sat Apr 6, 2013 7:10 pm ((PDT)) Tracey & group, The Goodspeed site has a lot of good information & I was impressed with the majority of histories there. The photos of the taverns & home of Daniel Robins Jr. with the stone inscription are really great & a plus is Ms. Goodspeed does try to provide a source for most of her work. However, earlier this year, Ms. Goodspeed presented an elaborate theory that the owner of the Robins tavern was Daniel Robins son of Job Robins & grandson of Daniel Jr. When questioned about this new information Ms. Goodspeed told me in a private e-mail she was unable to prove her theory & had no documentation to show the Daniel Robins b. abt.1736 son of Job Robins was at any time owner of the Robins tavern. Soon after she modified her article & removed my two comments & the comment of another researcher who disagreed with her theory. I noted a couple of weeks ago she continues to state Daniel Robins b. abt. 1736 son of Job was the tavern owner. Also Ms. Goodspeed's states in the same article regarding Daniel Robins, Jr that he left sons Nathaniel & Benjamin in Monmouth County when he migrated to Hunterdon Co. This is inaccurate. If Daniel Robins, Jr. had sons named Nathaniel & Benjamin there are no records to verify it. However, Daniel Robins, Jr. did have brothers Nathaniel & Benjamin. The following contains some of the recorded facts about Daniel Robins III & Daniel Robins son of Job Robins. 1. Daniel Robins son of Job Robins of Amwell in Hunterdon Co was born about or before 1736. According to Job Robins' will son Daniel was a minor in 1756. Job's will indicates his estate was worth 467 pounds. It was to be shared with Job's wife Abigail, his mother Mary, sons Daniel, Andrew & 5 daughters. Daniel Robins the tavern owner who died in 1763 had an estate worth 1678 pounds. His estate papers show he had loaned money to some very prominent Phila merchants & had business dealings with established men of the area. Daniel Robins left no will, wife Frances administered his estate. If Daniel Robins b.1736 died in 1763, he was about 27 years of age at the time. It seems unlikely to me that a young man with a rather small inheritance could accumulate such a large estate between the age of 21& 27. It isn't entirely impossible but rather unusual. In review of all the NJ Robins/Robbins estate inventories taken between 1670-1817, there was only one larger than the 1678 pound estate of Daniel Robins of Amwell in 1763. It belonged to Richard Robins son of Daniel & Hope who d. 1715 with an estate worth 1790. Richard Robins was a prominent, well established business man & a judge in Cumberland/Salem Co. The profile of Daniel Robins of Amwell who died in 1763 fits one of a man much older than 27. 2. A few months ago the descendants of John Pearce/Pierce shared information with me. The Pearce/Pierce Family DNA Project discovered some interesting results when the descendants of Daniel Pearce's son of John Pearce were very surprised to learn they had no biologicial relationship to the other sons of John Pearce/Pierce. Their results matched the descendants of Daniel Robins 1627-1714. At first they had difficulty accepting they were not John Pearce's descendants so they recruited 10 men from their line to test in order to compare results & found they all matched the Robins DNA. New Jersey Archive records show Daniel Robins' widow Frances married between 1673 & 1674 John Pearce. The Daniel Pearce family researchers have a document recording the birth of Daniel Pearce aka Robins as 1747 in NJ & d.1833 in TN. His age & birthplace also concurs with the 1830 census where he lived. Daniel Robins b.1736 was only 11 years old in 1747 so it's impossible he was the father of Daniel Pearce/Robins, the husband of Frances & Robins tavern owner in 1763. Past research done by the Robbins Family Yahoo Group indicated the Robins tavern owner was Daniel Robins III b.1692 in Woodbridge, NJ & d. 1763 at Amwell, Hunterdon Co. age 71. He was the only son of Daniel & Mary Parker Robins. Elizabeth the first wife of Daniel Robins III according to a deed was still living in 1748. She was probably the mother of Daniel Pearce/Robins & not Frances. The Charles Robbins Hutchinson manuscripts states Daniel Robins III had a son named Daniel. However no record was ever located for him. Most likely this was due to the fact that after the death of Daniel Robins III in 1763 Daniel IV moved with his step-mother Frances Robins Pearce & her husband John Pearce south to VA & Daniel assumed the Pearce surname. I hope this summary although a bit lengthy offers some insight on Daniel Robins owner of the Robins Tavern in 1763 Sara Posted by: "marcelofamilytx" tmarcelo@austin.rr.com marcelofamilytx Date: Sun Apr 7, 2013 12:34 pm ((PDT)) I do think Marfy's research and articles have merit. I particularly want to draw attention to the possibility that "Frances" the widow of Daniel Robins (tavern owner) was in fact Frances Atkinson. Thomas Atkinson, a wealthy merchant, was also a member of Kingwood Monthly Meeting. (See the meeting minutes at: http://books.google.com/books?id=6UQzJVDd1GwC&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq=Minutes+of+the+Kingwood+Monthly+Meeting&source=bl&ots=xgaHiJV-kS&sig=V765Yk7zoBEwUbzFbqacwIOOF34&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qb1hUb_BK8TLrQH0xIGICA&ved=0CEMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=atkinson&f=false) In the book, The Atkinson Family of New Jersey (at: http://archive.org/download/atkinsonsofnewje00atki/atkinsonsofnewje00atki.pdf) on pages 84 and 86, the family of Thomas is described and family bible records are transcribed. One entry states that Thomas Atkinson and wife Hannah Doddridge were the parents of: Frances b. 16 March 1734. Thomas Atkinson was the bondsman for Frances, widow of Daniel Robins, when she became the administrix of her late husband's estate. (See "Calendar of New Jersey Wills Volume IV 1761-1770" by A Van Doren Honeyman in 1928: 1763, Feb. 21. Robins, Daniel, of Amwell, Hunterdon Co. Int. Adm'x-Frances Robins, widow. Fellowbondsman-Thomas Atkinson, merchant; both of said place. Witness-Samuel Hornor. 1763, Feb. 25. Inventory, [pounds]1,099.19.6, made by John Mulinner and John Emley. 1764, Sept. 14. Account by John Peirce and Frances, his wife, late Frances Robins. Lib. 11, p. 339.) I think it is also worth noting that only 3 Robins show up in Kingwood Monthly Meeting records: --Job Robins in 1752, a witness of the marriage of Benjamin Canby and Martha Whitson -- Daniel Robins in 1758, in a list of marriages but no bride is named. --Andrew Robins in 1768, in a list of marriages but no bride is named. We know from Job's will that he had two sons: Daniel and Andrew. (See From "Calendar of New Jersey Wills Volume III 1751-1760" by A Van Doren Honeyman in 1924) I find all of these records compelling enough to use them in a working theory that Frances Atkinson was the bride of Daniel Robins and became his widow in 1763. As to the parentage of this Daniel Robins...It makes more sense to me that a man born around 1736 would marry a woman born in 1734. For that reason, I'm inclined to see Marfy's theory as very possible. As to the points Sara raised: -- The size of Daniel Robins' estate. If Daniel's wife was the daughter of the wealthy merchant, Thomas Atkinson, I believe there is strong reason to think that a good deal of Daniel's wealth and business connections came from his father in law, possibly in the form of a dower. -- Birth date of Daniel Robins aka Pearce. I believe the last info I had from Angela about his birthdate was that the 1830 census in McMinn TN placed his age as in his 80s. It would be great to find a birth record that has a more definitive date. Working theories are what keeps the research moving forward! Let's keep our minds open to possibilities like this and then see if we can prove or disprove them. Tracey Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@cox.net turkeypt2 Date: Sun Apr 7, 2013 3:08 pm ((PDT)) Tracey, We don't really know Frances ? Robins was an Atkinson so the birthdate of 1734 is just assumed from the birthdate of the Frances Atkinson mentioned in the Bible record of Joseph Atkinson. I don't find it unusual for older men to marry as a second or third wife much younger women. I suppose that issue can be used one way or another to fit whatever theory one is trying to prove. Regarding the possible marriage of Daniel Robins to Frances Atkinson, it's quite possible she may have been an Atkinson. The will of Thomas Atkinson written on Jan.12 1786 doesn't mention a daughter Frances or the other children mentioned in the Bible record but the record is evidence of their birth. Joseph Atkinson is the only son of Thomas named in his will & he inherited all his father's personal estate worth 1027 pounds. By the time Thomas Atkinson died in 1789 Daniel Robins who died in 1763 had been deceased for 26 years. I find it difficult to believe if Frances Atkinson was the woman who married Daniel Robins b. 1736 that her dowry could have increased the estate of Daniel Robins to such a sizable amount. Young Daniel would have accumulated his fortune between the approximate age of 21 & 27, in 6 years. The estate of Daniel Robins 1763 amounted to much more than that of the wealthy Thomas Atkinson. All this can be debated in theory about the size of the estates & the source of income etc etc but the "fly in the ointment" here isn't a dowry or size of the estate it's the Pierce DNA. In a phone conversation with Curtis Pierce he told me his ancestor Daniel Pierce/Robins died in 1833. Curtis is the person who initiated & recruited the Daniel Pearce DNA candidates. Records show Daniel Pearce/Robins was 80 in 1830. Let's say hypothetically Daniel Robins b. 1736 married Frances Atkinson in 1758. The will of Job Robins shows son Daniel was a minor in 1756 so under age 21. The birth date of 1736 is an assumed one but due to the fact he was named as an executor along with his mother Abigail no doubt Daniel was between 18 & 20 years of age in 1756. For 80 year old Daniel Pearce/Robins to be the son of Daniel b. 1736 & Frances he would have to have been born by 1750. It all boils down to the basics, the numbers/dates. The time frame just doesn't add up to fit Ms Goodspeed's theory. Questions like we have here can be motivating forces to inspire continuing research. Honest & reliable researchers want to learn the facts & on that I believe we can agree at this time. Sara