message exchange ... BEGIN From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Kurt Weidner [weidnerkurt@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:08 AM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Francis Bowker Sara, Please keep us infomed as I have an interest in the Bowkers. My relative Theresa Jane Robbins Thompson Collins died in Hugh Bowker's home, I believe or at the least she lived with him for a while after her third husband Sam Collins died. Kurt july37 wrote: Donna, I don't see the name of Thomas Bowker/Boger listed in the "Record of Officers & Men of New Jersey." Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: dcunningham4 To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:54 PM Subject: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Francis Bowker Sara, Very well could be a connection, however, not my grgrgrandfather Francis. I have his death record where his parents are named as Thomas & Phebe Bowker. I have not been able to locate either of them as yet. I am checking other counties in NJ now other than Cumberland. Perhaps knowing the below Francis was b. in Burlington Co, NJ, I should check there rather than Cape May county, where I've been checking. Thank you very much for the info, I'm sure it just might come in handy. Have you seen a Thomas Bowker/Boger in the "Record of Officers & Men of New Jersey..."? Have a wonderful day! Donna --- In Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com, "turkeypt2" wrote: > > Donna, > > While browsing through "Record of Officers & Men of New Jersey in the > War with Great Britain, 1812-1815" I saw the name Francis Bowker who > was an enlisted man in the US Marine Corps for New Jersey. Frances > Bowker, Private, Capt. Anthony's Gales's Detachment; enlisted at Phila, > Pa., Jan. 25, 1813, for five years; age 27; born Burlington Co., NJ > transferred to Headquarters Marine Corps, Washington, D. C., May 26, > 1813; private, Capt. Richard Smith's Detachment, at Sackett's Harbor, > N.Y. Jan 1, to Dec. 31, 1813; served to the close of the war. Hope he > connects to your Bowkers, please let me know if he does so I can add it > to the Bowker information on the family of my great aunt Bessie Bowker > w/o George Robbins. > Sara From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of dcunningham4 [dcunningham4@neo.rr.com] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:50 AM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Francis Bowker Kurt, Was the Hugh Bowker you are talking about from Cumberland County, NJ? If so he may be one of the sons of my Francis Bowker. Hugh also had a brother George, who was my grgrandfather. Donna From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Kurt Weidner [weidnerkurt@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 3:03 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Francis Bowker Donna, I don't know a whole lot about him and his connection to Theresa but I believe they both lived in Cumberland County. I believe it was Sara that first alerted me to this connection. She provided an obituary that listed his name. At the moment, I can't seem to find that email. Kurt From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of dcunningham4 [dcunningham4@neo.rr.com] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 3:25 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Francis Bowker Kurt, I know there were many siblings of my grandfather, Willard Bowker, (John, Elijah George, Kate, Sadie, & Nellie), and grgrandfather, George Bowker (siblings: Hugh D, Phebe, Susan, Emeline, Catherine, Mary, Frances, Francis), many of whom I have not had any contact. I had been in contact with a Julia Barclay, who has a direct connection with Hugh D Bowker, brother of my grgrandfather. I believe Hugh had married a Robbins. I lost all my records last fall when my computer crashed, and am trying to reconstruct things now. She had a Website that included a lot of the information I had gathered and sent to her. Then we combined our notes to gain some additional info as well as many questions we still have. I'm trying to remember the website but just haven't been able to find it. There is always the chance that she closed it, but.. I'm still looking. I lost all my email contacts as well. I believe Julia may have even contacted Sara. I'm sure there must be some kind of connection to either Robbins or Bowkers for Theresa having been living with Hugh Bowker. Let me know if I can help. I'd love to know if you can find a connection to the Bowkers. Donna From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of dcunningham4 [dcunningham4@neo.rr.com] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 3:55 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] [SPAM] [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Francis Bowker Tom, I don't recall having seen any Bowker ties to MacMilan thus far. I will keep my eyes open though. Donna From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of turkeypt2 [july37@cox.net] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:29 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Thompson, Robbins, Bowker, Austin Donna & Kurt, The relationship between Hugh D. Bowker b. 1847-1930 & Theresa J. Thompson Robbins d/o of Dare S. & Rachel Fowler Thompson may be as follows: Theresa's aunt Susan Thompson married Anthony Austin. Their oldest child was recorded as Ainat Austin in The Shropshire Family of Cumberland Co., NJ by Murray & Jean Harris, Gloucester Co., Historical Society, 1988. Could this be a misspelling for Anna since Ainat seems to be a rather unusual name? Murray & Jean Harris give their source for the Austin family information as The Genealogy of John Williams & Thankful Barlow, Banajah Tomson & Prudence Eldredge by Charles Tomlin, Cape May Court House & Clarence R. Brooks, Phila, 1931. The time frame fits for Susan Thompson Austin born in 1804 & Anna Austin born 1824 to be mother & daughter. Hugh D. Bowker's mother was Anna Austin w/o Francis Bowker. If Ainat is Anna then Theresa Thompson Robbins & Anna Austin Bowker were first cousins. The Robbins/Bowker relationship is Hugh D. Bowker's sisters Catherine Bowker married Levi Robbins, III & Mary Elizabeth Bowker married Alexander T. Robbins. Theresa Thompson Robbins was Levi & Alex's step- mother. Sara From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of dcunningham4 [dcunningham4@neo.rr.com] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:11 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Thompson, Robbins, Bowker, Austin Sara, You have just solved a mystery for me. Somewhere is my box of references I have something(can't remember what the sources are I'm trying to reconstruct everything) that has Anna recorded as Ainat, but later she is recorded as Anna & Ana. I believe the marriage record may be where I first saw Ainat. I have been told there was a connection to the Shropshire Family but could not find the Austin Connection. I never record 'hearsay' in my records until I can find documentation. Now I know what to look for to document the connection. I have been searching for Anna's parents for quite some time! Sara, thank you so much for your help. I will let you know when I get all my sources together and rebuild my files. Donna From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of july37 [july37@cox.net] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:49 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Thompson, Robbins, Bowker, Austin Donna, I'm glad the information was of help. If I can provide anything from my files on the Bowker family let me know & I'll send it to you. I haven't done much research on the Bowkers as they aren't in my direct line. As I recall my early Bowker information came from you, Julia Barclay & Fola Bevan. Sara From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Kurt Weidner [weidnerkurt@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 4:43 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Thompson, Robbins, Bowker, Austin Sara, I want to repeat what Donna has said. Thank you for the information. I'll have to go back and look at those references. (I have those books in the closet somewhere.) I found the obituary on Theresa Jane Thompson Robbins Collins dated 3/16/1930 from the Cumberland County Advertiser; "Noth Port Norris - The funeral of Mrs. Jane Collins who died at the home of Hugh Bowker last Wednesday was held in the Haleysville M.E. church on Saturday afternoon. The deceased was only a second cousin to Mr. Bowker and his maiden sister who reside at the Port Norris-North Port Norris forks of the road, but Mrs Collins seemed to feel so mauch at home with them that she spent her last days with them. Prior to her illness she fell down the stairs and this, together with heart complications which so often overpower old age, caused her death. Shw was the widow of the late Levi Robbins. Leter she married Samuel Collins, about the year of 1900. Mr Collins is now dead. he was the mother and step-mother of 24 children and helped raise one family of granchildren, her youngest daughter dying at an early age and leaving several small children. She was 86 Yeas of age. Rev, John Bradway, with whom she was well acquainted, was in charge of the funeral, which was largely attended." Kurt From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of july37 [july37@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:19 AM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM]Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Thompson, Robbins, Bowker, Austin Kurt , Thanks for posting Theresa Thompson Robbins' obituary. You have a colorful ancestry through Theresa back to the legendary Prudence Eldredge aka Princess Snow Flower sister of the last Lenni Lenape chief King Nummi. The Thompsons aren't in my line so only know a little of the local folklore on them. I've been told that Lake Nummy near Woodbine was named after him & he is supposedly buried around Stone Harbor. Sara From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Kurt Weidner [weidnerkurt@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:21 AM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM]Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Thompson, Robbins, Bowker, Austin Sara, Thanks for the kind words. I recall reading in my notes that Chief Nummy might be buried on the site of the airport in Rio Grande/Villas. I recall reading this from the Cape May County Archives on Rte 9. Makes for interesting reading, though. I called my daughter Princess Snow Flower when she was younger. Now when I do it, she just rolls her eyes. {;-) Kurt From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of dcunningham4 [dcunningham4@neo.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:33 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] [SPAM]Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Thompson, Robbins, Bowker, Austin Kurt or Sara, Will you please tell me how I might be able to view the Obituary for Theresa Thompson Robbins? Is it on this website? I'm not having any luck finding it. Thank you so much. I'm curious to see if there may be any bits that might ring any bells for me. Thank you so much! Donna From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of july37 [july37@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:45 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM]Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Thompson, Robbins, Bowker, Austin Donna, The obituary of Theresa Thompson Robbins Collins is posted in the Group's photo albums under Kurt Weidner's photo album. Kurt has posted Theresa's picture & other photos & documents from his Robbins family line. Sara From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Kurt Weidner [weidnerkurt@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:49 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM]Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Thompson, Robbins, Bowker, Austin Donna, I transcribed it from a photocopy I have. I am on travel right at the moment so I can't scan it and send it, right now. Kurt From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of dcunningham4 [dcunningham4@neo.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:16 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] [SPAM]Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Thompson, Robbins, Bowker, Austin Thank you Sara, I found it and I'm now looking through some of the other photos. You have been such a big help! Donna From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of dcunningham4 [dcunningham4@neo.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:22 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Thompson, Robbins, Bowker, Austin Kurt, I had just finished viewing the obituary and opened my email to see your message. Sara sent an email to me a little while ago to tell me where to find it. Thank you so much for all your help. I'm looking at some of the other photos now, just to see if there are any other little tidbits ring some bells. Donna From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of dcunningham4 [dcunningham4@neo.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:31 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Thompson, Robbins, Bowker, Austin Sara & Kurt, I've found my info on the Bowker's and here is what I have: Francis Bowker & Anna (Ainat, Ana)Austin had the following Children in order of birth: 1. Phebe Ann (Francis mother's name) 2. Susan T (Anna's mother's first & initial of mother's maiden?) 3. Hugh D 4. Catherine 5. George S. 6. Mary Elizabeth 7. Frances (female) 8. Francis 9. Unknown male After reviewing the above, I think you will agree with me that it is highly likely that Ainit & Anna are one in the same, and that Susan Thompson Austin are mother & daughter. Let me know what you think. Donna From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of dcunningham4 [dcunningham4@neo.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:36 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Thompson, Robbins, Bowker, Austin I missed Francis & Anna Bowker's daughter Emeline, who is actually the 3rd child making Hugh D 4th, etc. Emeline is the "maiden sister" also living in the home with Hugh. Donna From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of july37 [july37@cox.net] Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:45 AM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Thompson, Robbins, Bowker, Austin Donna, It does appear Ainit Austin is Anna Austin Bowker & Susan Thompson Austin was her mother. Hugh D. Bowker's line connects to the Lore & Robbins families through Hugh's wife Phebe Haley. She was the daughter of John Haley, Jr who was a descendant of Ruth Robbins Glann d/o Richard Robbins, Jr. Phebe's mother was Hannah H. Lore, a descendant of John Lory of Cornwall, Eng ancestor of the Cumberland Co., NJ Lore family. Hugh & Phebe are buried in the Port Norris M.E. Cemetery. His maiden sister Emeline Bowker is buried there too in the plot of Sarah E. Mulvey b. 1848-d. 1915. I'm curious if Sarah Mulvey was related to the Bowkers. Sara END