From: "Suzanne Taylor" Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 08:42:55 -0400 The ancestry runs like this: James Lake b 1770 in PA, d 1856 in MD -> Reuben Lake b 1802 in MD, d 1882 in MD -> Washington C Lake b 1835 in MD d 1922 in PA -> Reuben R Lake b 1866 in DE d 1953 in PA -> Willis S Lake b 1893 in PA d 1947 in PA -> my dad b 1923 in PA (still living) -> me I'm absolutely certain of the first Reuben on down, and fairly certain about James. I'd love to go farther back but haven't had much success. Sue Taylor Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 09:21:01 -0400 From: Suzanne Taylor His grave marker says that he died Feb 22, 1856, aged 85 years, 7 months, and 18 days, so even if something there is off by a bit, it still lands him pretty squarely in 1770. As far a location, that's less certain. There is a record online of a James Lake being born in New Jersey in 1770. There is also a 'U.S., Citizenship Affidavits of US-born Seamen at Select Ports, 1792-1869' certificate for a James Lake saying he was born in Maryland (ours married, lived and died in Maryland), but has his birth year as 1780, and was he living in Philadelphia at the time- though he was vouched for by a man whose name is very similar to his brother-in-law (Francis Egars v Francis Segars). As he married in Maryland in 1801 and had 2 children already (the younger being born in Maryland on Dec 6 1803) the affidavit is from Dec 19 1803 in Philly, it's hard to make complete sense of that one. In the 1880 census records two of his sons state that James was born in Pennsylvania, another son states Maryland, and a daughter, Maryland. The son that might have been the tiebreaker passed away before any of the census records captured parent's birthplace. Additionally, I was contacted by someone in the MacGregor line who is at least a partial DNA match, she wrote this "My ancestor Gregor McGregor was in the military and went to the USA and then settled in Nova Scotia where he acquired land after the American Revolution." There's no indication of his age or whether he might have started a family while in the US, so that could either be a direct or indirect link. So to round it all out, I believe based on the grave marker that our James Lake was born in 1770, in either Maryland or Pennsylvania. We're still looking at DNA matches as they come in to help narrow things down, and also trying to find a place or origin in Scotland where someone might have knowledge of Gregor/Lake ancestors leaving for America. Sigh- I wish I had more information to share but this guy has been very elusive. Sue From: Marshall Lake Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 6:54 PM To: Suzanne Taylor Subject: RE: James LAKE Sue, That's very interesting! Do you know if your James LAKE was born in America in 1770? If so, do you have an idea where in America? I don't think there's anything going on in the LAKE DNA Project to help you. A couple of kits in the Gravesend LAKEs have done the Big-Y (and a couple more are in process) but there's no relationship to your James so far. I think you're going to need good old fashioned paper-trail research to find the parents of James LAKE. Marshall On Wed, 20 May 2020, Suzanne Taylor wrote: > Hi Marshall, > Sorry for the delay, I would remember to reply to you- when I wasn't > at my computer. > > I haven't got anything specific, like parents. However, the Y DNA > testing on my dad found that while he had some pretty decent matches in the > Lake family project, his stronger matches were actually to MacGregor. Lots > and lots of them, and he's been accepted into the MacGregor project. It > seems that his branch of the tree was probably affected by the Clan Gregor > proscription in 1617: "It was ordained that the name of MacGregor should be > abolished and that the whole persons of that name should renounce their name > and take some other name and that they nor none of their name and that they > nor none of their posterity should call themselves Gregor or MacGregor under > pain of death ... that any person or persons of the said clan who has > already renounced their names or hereafter shall renounce their names or if > any of their children or posterity shall at any time hereafter assume or > take to themselves the name of Gregor or MacGregor ... that every such > person or persons assuming or taking to themselves the said name ... shall > incur the pain of death which pain shall be executed upon them without > favour." Yeah, we made King James VI that mad. > > So, all that is pretty interesting but it hasn't helped us determine > where our James was born or who his immediate ancestors were. It's very > frustrating. Has anything been happening within the Lake project that might > help us? > > Thanks! > > Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshall Lake > Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 12:02 PM > To: Suzanne Taylor > Subject: James LAKE > > > Hi Sue, > > Have you been able to find out anything further about the parentage of James > LAKE (1770-1856) since the last time we spoke ... around 2014?