MEL - Brian (in the 3rd msg below) seems to be referring to 41.36 & 30.89, but too much doesn't fit. From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of BRIAN ROBBINS [hilo80@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:16 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Fayette County PA Obituary Mary, This man is my great grand uncle. Now, what is your fathers name, and you  say he lived near this man, who lived in Connelsville, Pa. I would be interested in speaking with you. Looking forward to hearing from you, Brian Robbins From: Mary Robbins To: robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:39:38 PM Subject: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Fayette County PA Obituary Attached is the obituary of William Long Robbins of Fayette County PA, which I found via newspaperarchives. com.  I am not familiar with this individual or his family however, he was born in the general vicinity of my father's family and I found it to be informative.  I would be interested to hear back if anyone knows this man. Mary Robbins From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of BRIAN ROBBINS [hilo80@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:37 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Fayette County PA Obituary By the way, the obituary is in error, Mary. William L Robbins was born in 1843, not 1813. His father, Levi Robbins, was married 3 times. The first two wives were sisters, the Crossland sisters Eliza and Rebecca. Both died very young. I have the locations of the graves etc. Levi was a brick mason in fayette county. His father was Aaron Robbins, who with 2 other brothers and their families, migrated to Connellsville in 1807, from Monmouth Co,NJ. Aaron's father was Ephraim, who died in Connellsville in 1817. He, like Aaron lived to a old age for the times. Aaron lived until 93, died in 1874. He had voted democratic all his life and he first voted for Thomas Jefferson in 1803. William had a most tragic life when it came to his children. He had 11 children, but only 2 sons survived to adulthood. Newspaper obits show he lost 4 children in one week to diphtheria. If anyone can identify exactly which Ephraim Robins in Revolutionary times NJ is this man, then I will know the entire family tree of the Robbins, going back to Daniel Robinson of Scotland. Brian Robbins From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of robins.shirley [robins.shirley@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:15 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Fayette County PA Obituary --- In Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com, Tod Robbins wrote: > > Here's the .DOC and .PDF version for everybody. > > Cheers, > > Tod > Thank you Tod, I was able to read the obit. I am looking for a Peter Robbins, son, Edward born 1836, daughter Caroline and wife Abigail, Peter must have died and Abigail married a Mason Grover and they were in Wi. by 1853. Edward married Vestalina Gee,born in Pa., daughter of John Gee. I have ancestors back to England on the Gee side if anyone has ancestors in that line too. Shirley From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Dave Robbins [robbinsds@swbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:15 AM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Fayette County PA Obituary Census images and other references suggest a birth year of 1843 not 1813. Regards, Dave Robbins From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Lynn McFadden [clcn3930@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:28 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Fayette County PA Obituary Since we have some new members of late, I'm going to ask a question that I have asked before, in hopes of an answer.   My 4th great-grandfather was John Robins/Robbins (12 Sep 1785-22 Aug 1831), who supposedly came from NJ, to Hanover Twsp, Luzerne, PA in 1803.  He married Mary Garrison (1786-1868), a daughter of Cornelius Garrison, in Hanover, died in Sugar Notch, Luzerne, PA and is buried in Hanover Green Cemetery.  Does anyone know who John's father and mother were?   Thanks, Lynn in Texas From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Mary Robbins [merobbins336@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:58 AM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Fayette County PA Obituary Thank you to those who picked up on the newspaper error for William Long Robbins' birth year. Of course, if he were born in 1813 he would have been about 120 years old in 1933! Brian, to answer your question, my father's family lived in SW Fayette, and just beyond the borders into Greene Co. and Monongalia Co. WV. I beg your pardon, while I am familiar with Bullskin Twp. by way of census records, I double-checked a Fayette County map and realized that is northern Fayette. I haven't found any connection with the Connellesville families, the names haven't even carried over. We don't have any Aarons, Levis, Ephraims, or even Moses. Without consulting my notes... the earliest generation was William married to Mary (Evans?) he was in the 1800 Census living in Maidsville, WV (Monongalia) There one daughter, four or five sons (William, George, Daniel John and Joseph). I am descended from John b. abt. 1797, married to a Sarah. I am descended from John's son Perry b. 1832, a Civil War vet., married Katherine (Baer?). Perry was listed as a stonemason in at least one census, my great-grandfather Arthur was a potter, a.k.a. stonemason in Greensboro and New Geneva. Since the DNA test match, I assume there is a direct connection with the Connellesville families, it remains an enigma. Brian, I would like to collaborate with you further on these Fayette Robbinses. Mary Robbins Denton, Maryland From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of June Nash Lindquist [junenash@pacbell.net] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:47 AM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Fayette County PA Mary's Fayette County PA families seem more parallel to my Springhill twp. William Robbins and his wife Elizabeth Laughead., resident there in 1810 when he applied for his Rev. War Pension. He served in NJ, married 1789 in Bucks Co at Neshaminy church, and seems to be that William in 1790 Bucks with their first child Tamar. The FIRST son is named John, then a William, Daniel (1798), followed by Joseph and Benjamin, and then Elizabeth, Rebecca, Ruel (male) and Martha. JUNE From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Marshall Lake [mlake@mlake.net] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:35 AM To: South Jersey ROBINS/ROBBINS Mailing List Subject: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Fayette County PA Obituary > Aaron's father was Ephraim, who died in Connellsville in 1817. He, like > Aaron lived to a old age for the times. Aaron lived until 93, died in > 1874 > . > . > . > If anyone can identify exactly which Ephraim Robins in Revolutionary > times NJ is this man, then I will know the entire family tree of the > Robbins, going back to Daniel Robinson of Scotland. Could this Ephraim be the Ephraim who married Mary BECK ? Ephraim's father was also Ephraim and they lived in Monmouth Co, NJ. The father of Ephraim Sr was Aaron, so the naming pattern might fit. Do you know the name of the spouse of Ephraim who died in Connellsville in 1817 ? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@mlake.net -- http://mlake.net From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Marshall Lake [mlake@mlake.net] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 1:22 PM To: South Jersey ROBINS/ROBBINS Mailing List Subject: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Fayette County PA > Mary's Fayette County PA families seem more parallel to my Springhill > twp. William Robbins and his wife Elizabeth Laughead., resident there in > 1810 when he applied for his Rev. War Pension. He served in NJ, married > 1789 in Bucks Co at Neshaminy church, and seems to be that William in > 1790 Bucks with their first child Tamar. The FIRST son is named John, > then a William, Daniel (1798), followed by Joseph and Benjamin, and then > Elizabeth, Rebecca, Ruel (male) and Martha. In the Garrison-Tharp Cemetery on Garrison Court off of County Road 579 in Bethlehem Township, Hunterdon County, NJ there is a Joseph Loughhead. In an enumeration of the cemetery done by Jacqueline Lubinski dated September of 2003: quote Joseph Loughhead b. January 13, 1820 in Ireland d. abt. 1851 (In the 1850 census Federal Census for Bethlehem Township, Hunterdon Co., NJ he is listed as born in Ireland and his wife's name is Margaret b. 1822 in New Jersey. He is living next door to Jonathan Robins and wife Charity Lawshe Robins who is the 1st cousin of Dinah Robins who owned the property that the Garrison-Tharp Cemetery is on. There is no headstone visible for wife Margaret in the Garrison-Tharp Cemetery. Probing has not uncovered a stone either.) unquote Also, there is a LOUGHREN mentioned in a ROBINS-related document in 1824. I suspect LOUGHREN should be LOUGHEAD or LOUGHEAD ... From "More Records of Old Hunterdon County, Vol II" by Phyllis B. D'Autrechy in 2000: quote 1824, Mar. 2. Joseph Ruple of Alexandria Twp, will of. Only son, John Rupell [sic] during his lifetime, the 105 acre plantation whereon I now live in Alexandria Twp. adjoining Joseph Ruple, son of the aforesaid, John Rupell. Son to have all livestock, household goods and farming utensils and all other moveable goods and chattels. Daughter, Mary Robins (wife of Isaac), $300 to be put at interest and she to receive the interest yearly. At her death the money to be divided equally between her three children, Elizabeth, Mary and Levi Robins. Daughter, Sarah (Loughren?), $300. Rest and residue to daughter, Mary Robins. Executors: son, John Rupell and friend, William Dilley. Witnesses: Enoch Clifford, William Gano and Jacob Bellis. Proved 27 April 1824. (4/91) unquote From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of BRIAN ROBBINS [hilo80@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:37 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Fayette County PA Obituary Hi Marshall, No, I do not know her name. Any help greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Brian Robbins From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Marshall Lake [mlake@mlake.net] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:05 PM To: South Jersey ROBINS/ROBBINS Mailing List Subject: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Fayette County PA Obituary The Ephraim I mentioned below married Mary BECK. I really don't have much further info with regard to the family. They lived in Monmouth Co and they lived at the right time to be yours. The only years I have are that Ephraim Sr died in NJ in 1759, and one of Ephraim Jr's siblings married in 1771. Maybe you could find further info in Sara and John's book. From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of robins.shirley [robins.shirley@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:29 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Fayette County PA Obituary > Hello, Has anyone found Robbins in the 1820 census that they know? New York, Chenango Co. Sherburne, Looks like a Hofea? and a Peter? Thank you, Shirley From: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Sara Hoffman [july37@cox.net] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:21 PM To: Robbinsfamilysouthjersey@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Robbinsfamilysouthjersey] Re: Fayette County PA Obituary DNA confirms Brian is related to the Daniel Robins group but no paper trail hasn't been established that connects Ephraim & Mercy Cox Robins & their son Ephraim Jr. to Brian's ancestor Ephraim Robins who d. 1817 in PA. The names used like Aaron & Ephraim along with the occupation of stone mason for this line both in NJ & PA are of interest. Charles Robbins Hutchinson records Ephraim Robins Jr. was a stone mason. We can estimate he was born after the marriage date of his parents in 1746. If Ephraim Robins Jr. was b. abt. 1747 he would have been around 70 years old in 1817. According to Charles Robbins Hutchinson, Ephraim Robins, Jr. & Mary Beck only had one son Ephraim Robins III who married Lydia Ford . Is there a possiblity that Ephraim Robins, Jr. had more children including a son Aaron & he died in PA? I don't think there is any record of a death date & place for Ephraim Robins, Jr. Does anyone know? Sara