----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1251 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2016-01-01 16:11:21 Subject:Re: Robins Wills in Greene/Fayette Counties PA and Monongalia, WV Message: The best knowledge I have of NJ ROBINS is in Hunterdon Co. I don't see anything (in what I have) to connect your ROBINS to ROBINS in Hunterdon Co. I do see one thing in NJ that may be of interest, though. Correct me if I'm mistaken but I think it's been thought/assumed that the parents of Richard, Jacob & William is William ROBINS and Mary EVANS. I have this: From "Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834" (FTM CD #209) by Family Line Publications in 1998: quote Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834=Chester County, Pa. ROBINS, RICHARD. Edgmont. October 20, 1784. November 20, 1784. To brother Zebulon Robins all bonds, notes, etc., I put into his hands to collect for me, except a book account against my brother-in-law Benjamin Morris. To brother Joseph all remainder of estate real and personal. Executors: Brothers Zebulon and Joseph Robins. Wit: Robert Evans, Joseph Meredith, Josiah Lewis, Jr. unquote Notice that one of the witnesses is Robert EVANS. I believe that this Richard ROBINS is the son of Joseph ROBINS (1710 NJ - 1786 NJ) and Leah CLAYTON (1713 - 1796). Joseph ROBINS is the son of Moses ROBINS (1679 Woodbridge, Middlesex Co, NJ - 1744 Monmouth Co, NJ) and Mary SICKLES (c1683 - 1749). Moses ROBINS is the son of Daniel ROBINS and Hope POTTER. > � �This Fall I paid another visit to South Western PA, spending a week, with the purpose searching for early Robins wills. Five days passed in the twinkling of an eye. I found some in Greene and Fayette Counties. �The y have revealed some clues, some �names of extended family members or in-laws.�I am reaching out to this group who not only my have knowledge of SW PA, but NJ as well. > � � There were several wills of interest from Green or Fayette Counties. Without transcribing them here, at this time, I will say that there were wills for four Robins men: Daniel Robins, Richard Robins, Jacob Robins all of Fayette County, PA and Jacob Robins of Greene County, PA. > Daniel Robins (Springhill, Fayette Co., PA), whose oral will was recorded 26 March 1785, after his death, by son�Richard Robins. The will mentions son John, daughter Mercy, and brothers John and William. While Richard is not named directly, John Lucas is named, who was the husband of Jemima Robins, daughter of Richard. [No wife is mentioned. Daniel applied for a land grant shortly before his death. The property was called "Reliance" , and was 'next door' to property owned by Theophilus Philips.� > ����In chronological order, the next will is by Richard Robins' will is written in 1787. He names his wife Sarah, "now pregnant"; sons Daniel and Samuel and daughter Jemima. Richard's will is witnessed by John Robins and Jacob Robins. > ����The next will written on 10 Feb 1790 is for Jacob Robins. He mentions his wife Frances and son Jacob and Lot Philips. Both Jacob and Lot Philips inherit half of the land in the estate, after they reach the age of twenty-one. To Daniel Robins son of Richard, deceased, he leaves ten shillings. [Frances Philips was daughter of Theophilus Philips. After Jacobs death, Frances married John Barrett.] > ����The last Robins will that I found was Jacob Robins of Greene County. It was dated 20 January 1814, and it mentions his wife Elizabeth. While no children are named, two half brothers are. The half brothers are Theo philus Philips Barrett and William Minor Barrett. �Baltzer Kramer was named executor, [Baltzer kramer was the husband of Sarah Philips, who was daughter of Theophilus Philips.] > � � I have been following some of the clues, which has lead me to search through other wills found locally and online. It's given me more family names to explore.�� � Again, I am reaching out to this group for insight . �Is there anything about these family groupings that is familiar? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1252 Sender:Mary Robbins Post Date/Time:2016-01-01 21:50:08 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Robins Wills in Greene/Fayette Counties PA and Monongalia, WV Message: Marshall, Thank you so much for your response and references. I am particularly interested in your input on William and Mary Evans. I have always had different children them, but since a am lacking primary source s, I am open to correction. I have daughter Eleanor(1785-), and four sons William A, (1789-) moved to Ohio), John (1797-aft 1860), Daniel (1799-1813), George (1800). There is about an eight year gap between Wm. A. and John, which makes me question. I am interested in your association of Richard, Jacob and William, with William Robins and Mary Evans. Correct or not, I need to dig more to discover the facts. William died approx. 180 0 and Mary married again, to Jonathan Morris, and was buried beside him. I have recently seen a reference to Jonathan Morris' will that mentions a step-daughter Eleanor Robins. So, that is another will on my list to fol low up on.Thanks again Marshall, sometimes I feel isolate researching in Southwestern PA, and welcome input or guidance. Mary On Friday, January 1, 2016 6:11 PM, "Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: The best knowledge I have of NJ ROBINS is in Hunterdon Co. I don't see anything (in what I have) to connect your ROBINS to ROBINS in Hunterdon Co. I do see one thing in NJ that may be of interest, though. Correct me if I'm mistaken but I think it's been thought/assumed that the parents of Richard, Jacob & William is William ROBINS and Mary EVANS. I have this: From "Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834" (FTM CD #209) by Family Line Publications in 1998: quote Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834=Chester County, Pa. ROBINS, RICHARD. Edgmont. October 20, 1784. November 20, 1784. To brother Zebulon Robins all bonds, notes, etc., I put into his hands to collect for me, except a book account against my brother-in-law Benjamin Morris. To brother Joseph all remainder of estate real and personal. Executors: Brothers Zebulon and Joseph Robins. Wit: Robert Evans, Joseph Meredith, Josiah Lewis, Jr. unquote Notice that one of the witnesses is Robert EVANS. I believe that this Richard ROBINS is the son of Joseph ROBINS (1710 NJ - 1786 NJ) and Leah CLAYTON (1713 - 1796). Joseph ROBINS is the son of Moses ROBINS (1679 Woodbridge, Middlesex Co, NJ - 1744 Monmouth Co, NJ) and Mary SICKLES (c1683 - 1749). Moses ROBINS is the son of Daniel ROBINS and Hope POTTER. > This Fall I paid another visit to South Western PA, spending a week, with the purpose searching for early Robins wills. Five days passed in the twinkling of an eye. I found some in Greene and Fayette Counties. The y have revealed some clues, some names of extended family members or in-laws. I am reaching out to this group who not only my have knowledge of SW PA, but NJ as well. > There were several wills of interest from Green or Fayette Counties. Without transcribing them here, at this time, I will say that there were wills for four Robins men: Daniel Robins, Richard Robins, Jacob Robins all of Fayette County, PA and Jacob Robins of Greene County, PA. > Daniel Robins (Springhill, Fayette Co., PA), whose oral will was recorded 26 March 1785, after his death, by son Richard Robins. The will mentions son John, daughter Mercy, and brothers John and William. While Richard is not named directly, John Lucas is named, who was the husband of Jemima Robins, daughter of Richard. [No wife is mentioned. Daniel applied for a land grant shortly before his death. The property was called "Reliance" , and was 'next door' to property owned by Theophilus Philips. > In chronological order, the next will is by Richard Robins' will is written in 1787. He names his wife Sarah, "now pregnant"; sons Daniel and Samuel and daughter Jemima. Richard's will is witnessed by John Robins and Jacob Robins. > The next will written on 10 Feb 1790 is for Jacob Robins. He mentions his wife Frances and son Jacob and Lot Philips. Both Jacob and Lot Philips inherit half of the land in the estate, after they reach the age of twenty-one. To Daniel Robins son of Richard, deceased, he leaves ten shillings. [Frances Philips was daughter of Theophilus Philips. After Jacobs death, Frances married John Barrett.] > The last Robins will that I found was Jacob Robins of Greene County. It was dated 20 January 1814, and it mentions his wife Elizabeth. While no children are named, two half brothers are. The half brothers are Theo philus Philips Barrett and William Minor Barrett. Baltzer Kramer was named executor, [Baltzer kramer was the husband of Sarah Philips, who was daughter of Theophilus Philips.] > I have been following some of the clues, which has lead me to search through other wills found locally and online. It's given me more family names to explore. Again, I am reaching out to this group for insight . 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I looked at old messages here and it looks like I may have read them wrong. I see a message saying William ROBINS & Mary EVANS info coming from Leona Cheeney. And I see another message containing a family outline shown [in part] here ... 1 William Robbins + Mary Evans 2 Daughter 2 William Augustine Robbins + Margaret Dillinger/Dillner 2 John Robbins b. abt. 1797 + Sarah _____ 2 Daniel + 2 George Looking at the outline again now it doesn't seem to be relative to what you're looking for. > Marshall,??????????Thank you so much for your response and references. > ??I am particularly interested in your input on William and Mary Evans. > ??I have always had different children them, but since a am lacking > primary sources, I am open to correction. ??I have daughter > Eleanor(1785-), and four sons William A, (1789-) moved to Ohio), John > (1797-aft 1860), Daniel (1799-1813), George (1800). There is about an > eight year gap between Wm. A. and John, which makes me question. I am > interested in your association of Richard, Jacob and William, with > William Robins and Mary Evans. Correct or not, I need to dig more to > discover the facts.????????William died approx. 1800 and Mary married > again, to Jonathan Morris, and was buried beside him. I have recently > seen a reference to Jonathan Morris' will that mentions a step-daughter > Eleanor Robins. So, that is another will on my list to follow up > on.Thanks again Marshall, sometimes I feel isolate researching in > Southwestern PA, and welcome input or guidance. ????Mary > > On Friday, January 1, 2016 6:11 PM, "Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: > > > ?? > The best knowledge I have of NJ ROBINS is in Hunterdon Co. I don't see > anything (in what I have) to connect your ROBINS to ROBINS in Hunterdon > Co. > > I do see one thing in NJ that may be of interest, though. > > Correct me if I'm mistaken but I think it's been thought/assumed that the > parents of Richard, Jacob & William is William ROBINS and Mary EVANS. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1254 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2016-01-02 12:20:58 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Robins Wills in Greene/Fayette Counties PA and Monongalia, WV Message: Mary, The group's file contains an article from "The Robins Family of Cecil Township Washington Co., PA by Dr. Raymond M. Bell. I don't know if this is anything you don't already have but possibly you may want to look at it. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 9:49 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Cc: Mary Robbins Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Robins Wills in Greene/Fayette Counties PA and Monongalia, WV Looking back over what I was using as reference I may have made a mistake. I looked at old messages here and it looks like I may have read them wrong. I see a message saying William ROBINS & Mary EVANS info coming from Leona Cheeney. And I see another message containing a family outline shown [in part] here ... 1 William Robbins + Mary Evans 2 Daughter 2 William Augustine Robbins + Margaret Dillinger/Dillner 2 John Robbins b. abt. 1797 + Sarah _____ 2 Daniel + 2 George Looking at the outline again now it doesn't seem to be relative to what you're looking for. > Marshall,??????????Thank you so much for your response and references. > ??I am particularly interested in your input on William and Mary Evans. > ??I have always had different children them, but since a am lacking > primary sources, I am open to correction. ??I have daughter > Eleanor(1785-), and four sons William A, (1789-) moved to Ohio), John > (1797-aft 1860), Daniel (1799-1813), George (1800). There is about an > eight year gap between Wm. A. and John, which makes me question. I am > interested in your association of Richard, Jacob and William, with > William Robins and Mary Evans. Correct or not, I need to dig more to > discover the facts.????????William died approx. 1800 and Mary married > again, to Jonathan Morris, and was buried beside him. I have recently > seen a reference to Jonathan Morris' will that mentions a step-daughter > Eleanor Robins. So, that is another will on my list to follow up > on.Thanks again Marshall, sometimes I feel isolate researching in > Southwestern PA, and welcome input or guidance. ????Mary > > On Friday, January 1, 2016 6:11 PM, "Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: > > > ?? > The best knowledge I have of NJ ROBINS is in Hunterdon Co. I don't see > anything (in what I have) to connect your ROBINS to ROBINS in Hunterdon > Co. > > I do see one thing in NJ that may be of interest, though. > > Correct me if I'm mistaken but I think it's been thought/assumed that the > parents of Richard, Jacob & William is William ROBINS and Mary EVANS. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1255 Sender:july37@... Post Date/Time:2016-01-02 17:42:11 Subject:Chuck Poley Message: To members who remember Chuck Poley, Chuck recently reached an extremely difficult time in his life. He is currently in a life & death struggle to overcome cancer. I have been in contact with Chuck through his wife Lara who has set up a site for him at ht tp://www.gofundme.com/chuckpoley http://www.gofundme.com/chuckpoley I'm not endorsing his site or soliciting funds just posting the information for those that may be interested. Sara ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1256 Sender:Mary Robbins Post Date/Time:2016-01-03 21:28:14 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Robins Wills in Greene/Fayette Counties PA and Monongalia, WV Message: Marshall, Interesting you should mention Leona Cheeney! Her name keeps popping up. About thirty years ago or more, Ms. Cheeny answered my query in the Genealogical Helper. Many of her letters are included in the Robbins surname file at the Cornerstone Genealogical Society library in Waynesburg, PA. She wrote quite a few letters during the 80's. Her first letter explained that she was deaf and mute, which accounted for her writing style. I rece ived a letter from her sister when she died. Leona descended from William Augustine, who appears for have the more info gathered about his family than the his siblings. I descend from his brother John (b1797) of Maids ville, Monongalia, WV, married to Sarah Stone, daughter of Henry Stone of Maidsville, Monongalia, WV.Thanks Marshall. Mary On Saturday, January 2, 2016 2:22 PM, "'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: Mary, The group’s file contains an article from “The Robins Family of Cecil Township Washington Co., PA by Dr. Raymond M. Bell. I don’t know if this is anything you don’t already have but possibly you may want to look at it. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 9:49 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Cc: Mary Robbins Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Robins Wills in Greene/Fayette Counties PA and Monongalia, WV Looking back over what I was using as reference I may have made a mistake. I looked at old messages here and it looks like I may have read them wrong. I see a message saying William ROBINS & Mary EVANS info coming from Leona Cheeney. And I see another message containing a family outline shown [in part] here ... 1 William Robbins + Mary Evans 2 Daughter 2 William Augustine Robbins + Margaret Dillinger/Dillner 2 John Robbins b. abt. 1797 + Sarah _____ 2 Daniel + 2 George Looking at the outline again now it doesn't seem to be relative to what you're looking for. > Marshall,??????????Thank you so much for your response and references. > ??I am particularly interested in your input on William and Mary Evans. > ??I have always had different children them, but since a am lacking > primary sources, I am open to correction. ??I have daughter > Eleanor(1785-), and four sons William A, (1789-) moved to Ohio), John > (1797-aft 1860), Daniel (1799-1813), George (1800). There is about an > eight year gap between Wm. A. and John, which makes me question. I am > interested in your association of Richard, Jacob and William, with > William Robins and Mary Evans. Correct or not, I need to dig more to > discover the facts.????????William died approx. 1800 and Mary married > again, to Jonathan Morris, and was buried beside him. I have recently > seen a reference to Jonathan Morris' will that mentions a step-daughter > Eleanor Robins. So, that is another will on my list to follow up > on.Thanks again Marshall, sometimes I feel isolate researching in > Southwestern PA, and welcome input or guidance. ????Mary > > On Friday, January 1, 2016 6:11 PM, "Marshall Lake mlake@mlake.net [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: > > > ?? > The best knowledge I have of NJ ROBINS is in Hunterdon Co. 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I see in my notes from this recent to PA that I jotted some notes from that 1777 Daniel Robins will. However, I am not familiar these three individua ls. Thank you for sharing this with me Sara.Mary On Sunday, January 3, 2016 11:28 PM, Mary Robbins wrote: Marshall, Interesting you should mention Leona Cheeney! Her name keeps popping up. About thirty years ago or more, Ms. Cheeny answered my query in the Genealogical Helper. Many of her letters are included in the Robbins surname file at the Cornerstone Genealogical Society library in Waynesburg, PA. She wrote quite a few letters during the 80's. Her first letter explained that she was deaf and mute, which accounted for her writing style. I rece ived a letter from her sister when she died. Leona descended from William Augustine, who appears for have the more info gathered about his family than the his siblings. I descend from his brother John (b1797) of Maids ville, Monongalia, WV, married to Sarah Stone, daughter of Henry Stone of Maidsville, Monongalia, WV.Thanks Marshall. Mary On Saturday, January 2, 2016 2:22 PM, "'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: Mary, The group’s file contains an article from “The Robins Family of Cecil Township Washington Co., PA by Dr. Raymond M. Bell. I don’t know if this is anything you don’t already have but possibly you may want to look at it. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 9:49 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Cc: Mary Robbins Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Robins Wills in Greene/Fayette Counties PA and Monongalia, WV Looking back over what I was using as reference I may have made a mistake. I looked at old messages here and it looks like I may have read them wrong. I see a message saying William ROBINS & Mary EVANS info coming from Leona Cheeney. And I see another message containing a family outline shown [in part] here ... 1 William Robbins + Mary Evans 2 Daughter 2 William Augustine Robbins + Margaret Dillinger/Dillner 2 John Robbins b. abt. 1797 + Sarah _____ 2 Daniel + 2 George Looking at the outline again now it doesn't seem to be relative to what you're looking for. > Marshall,??????????Thank you so much for your response and references. > ??I am particularly interested in your input on William and Mary Evans. > ??I have always had different children them, but since a am lacking > primary sources, I am open to correction. ??I have daughter > Eleanor(1785-), and four sons William A, (1789-) moved to Ohio), John > (1797-aft 1860), Daniel (1799-1813), George (1800). There is about an > eight year gap between Wm. A. and John, which makes me question. I am > interested in your association of Richard, Jacob and William, with > William Robins and Mary Evans. Correct or not, I need to dig more to > discover the facts.????????William died approx. 1800 and Mary married > again, to Jonathan Morris, and was buried beside him. I have recently > seen a reference to Jonathan Morris' will that mentions a step-daughter > Eleanor Robins. So, that is another will on my list to follow up > on.Thanks again Marshall, sometimes I feel isolate researching in > Southwestern PA, and welcome input or guidance. ????Mary > > On Friday, January 1, 2016 6:11 PM, "Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: > > > ?? > The best knowledge I have of NJ ROBINS is in Hunterdon Co. 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10:03:35 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Robins Wills in Greene/Fayette Counties PA and Monongalia, WV Message: Mary, Thank you for posting the information from your research on the Robins wills. I’m not aware of any documented relationship between the Robins of Greene & Fayette Counties & the Robins of Washington County. However, it a ppears to me there is a good possibility that they relate. They all settled in counties that border each other in the corner of Southwestern PA. I noted the Phillips family name appears in your research of the Robins o f Green & Fayette Counties. The name also appears with Mary Robins sister to Daniel Robins of Washington Co. who wrote his will in 1777. Daniel mentions his brother-in-law John Phillips. Ann Robins mother of Daniel & Ma ry names her daughter Mary Phillips in her will of 1785 & grand-daughter Ann Phillips. Theophilus & Lot Phillips are family names found in Monmouth & Hunterdon County. Nothing definitive here just possible clues. Locati ng links to the Daniel & Hope descendants who migrated from NJ isn’t an easy task. Hopefully your persistence in pursuing the Robins in southwestern PA will be rewarded with a break though. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 9:44 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Robins Wills in Greene/Fayette Counties PA and Monongalia, WV Sara, I found the Bell Anthology online and have been reading it over. I see in my notes from this recent to PA that I jotted some notes from that 1777 Daniel Robins will. However, I am not familiar these three individuals. Thank you for sharing this with me Sara. Mary On Sunday, January 3, 2016 11:28 PM, Mary Robbins wrote: Marshall, Interesting you should mention Leona Cheeney! Her name keeps popping up. About thirty years ago or more, Ms. Cheeny answered my query in the Genealogical Helper. Many of her letters are included in the Robbins surname file at the Cornerstone Genealogical Society library in Waynesburg, PA. She wrote quite a few letters during the 80's. Her first letter explained that she was deaf and mute, which accounted for her writing style. I rece ived a letter from her sister when she died. Leona descended from William Augustine, who appears for have the more info gathered about his family than the his siblings. I descend from his brother John (b1797) of Maids ville, Monongalia, WV, married to Sarah Stone, daughter of Henry Stone of Maidsville, Monongalia, WV. Thanks Marshall. Mary On Saturday, January 2, 2016 2:22 PM, "'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: Mary, The group’s file contains an article from “The Robins Family of Cecil Township Washington Co., PA by Dr. Raymond M. Bell. I don’t know if this is anything you don’t already have but possibly you may want to look at it. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 9:49 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Cc: Mary Robbins Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Robins Wills in Greene/Fayette Counties PA and Monongalia, WV Looking back over what I was using as reference I may have made a mistake. I looked at old messages here and it looks like I may have read them wrong. I see a message saying William ROBINS & Mary EVANS info coming from Leona Cheeney. And I see another message containing a family outline shown [in part] here ... 1 William Robbins + Mary Evans 2 Daughter 2 William Augustine Robbins + Margaret Dillinger/Dillner 2 John Robbins b. abt. 1797 + Sarah _____ 2 Daniel + 2 George Looking at the outline again now it doesn't seem to be relative to what you're looking for. > Marshall,??????????Thank you so much for your response and references. > ??I am particularly interested in your input on William and Mary Evans. > ??I have always had different children them, but since a am lacking > primary sources, I am open to correction. ??I have daughter > Eleanor(1785-), and four sons William A, (1789-) moved to Ohio), John > (1797-aft 1860), Daniel (1799-1813), George (1800). There is about an > eight year gap between Wm. A. and John, which makes me question. I am > interested in your association of Richard, Jacob and William, with > William Robins and Mary Evans. Correct or not, I need to dig more to > discover the facts.????????William died approx. 1800 and Mary married > again, to Jonathan Morris, and was buried beside him. I have recently > seen a reference to Jonathan Morris' will that mentions a step-daughter > Eleanor Robins. So, that is another will on my list to follow up > on.Thanks again Marshall, sometimes I feel isolate researching in > Southwestern PA, and welcome input or guidance. ????Mary > > On Friday, January 1, 2016 6:11 PM, "Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: > > > ?? > The best knowledge I have of NJ ROBINS is in Hunterdon Co. I don't see > anything (in what I have) to connect your ROBINS to ROBINS in Hunterdon > Co. > > I do see one thing in NJ that may be of interest, though. > > Correct me if I'm mistaken but I think it's been thought/assumed that the > parents of Richard, Jacob & William is William ROBINS and Mary EVANS. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1259 Sender:july37@... Post Date/Time:2016-01-08 13:26:34 Subject:For Mary Robbins Message: Mary, I received your e-mail invitation/request. I hope you received my response. Sara ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1260 Sender:Mary Robbins Post Date/Time:2016-01-08 23:15:25 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] For Mary Robbins Message: Invitation/request? I'm sorry, I follow what you mean. Mary On Friday, January 8, 2016 3:26 PM, "july37@... 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Sent from my iPad > On Jan 9, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Mary Robbins merobbins336@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > Invitation/request? I'm sorry, I follow what you mean. Mary > > > On Friday, January 8, 2016 3:26 PM, "july37@cox.net [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: > > > > Mary, > I received your e-mail invitation/request. I hope you received my response. > Sara > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1262 Sender:Mary Robbins Post Date/Time:2016-01-09 11:30:18 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] For Mary Robbins Message: Good Morning,Sara, I read your email at 1 in the a.m., regarding an invitation/request, and now I am trying to figure out origin of your question. Are you referring to my 12/30/15 email to the group, regarding Robins' in SW PA? I see that I did not answer your 1/4/16 missive. Yes,I do intend to continue to look for leads and families that connect to the Robins/Robbins families in that region. I am looking back on my photocopie s I see a 'sketch' on Theophilus Phillips in Springhill Twp., in History of Fayette County, Pennsylvania, With Biographical Sketches of many of its Pioneers and Prominent Men., Edited by Franklin Ellis, Volume I, 1882.C ol. Theophilus Phillips emigrated to Fayette Co. in 1767, from NJ, with his brother-in-law Rev. James Dunlap. The cleared land and farmed along a stream, later called Dunlap's Creek. Phillips went on to purchase land th at he called Phillips Choice (bordering Daniel Robins' property named Reliance. Rev. James Dunlap later became the minister in the Presbyterian Church, in the New Geneva area, where Theo. Phillips was an elder. There is much written about Theophillus Phillips, and the more I read, the more connections I see, through his life and the marriages of children and grandchildren. If I could only learn how to scan, there is an article I found online that I hope to put on our Robbins site. There was and "old Bachelor, historian, Thomas Clare (Springhill Twp.), who told about how it was Back in the Olden Times. It mentions that Thomas Clare purchased la nd from the heirs of Daniel Robins... Thanks for following up, Mary On Saturday, January 9, 2016 9:13 AM, "Shirley Hawley robins.shirley@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: I got that request too?? Sent from my iPad On Jan 9, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Mary Robbins merobbins336@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Invitation/request? I'm sorry, I follow what you mean. Mary On Friday, January 8, 2016 3:26 PM, "july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: Mary,I received your e-mail invitation/request. I hope you received my response. 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What you can do is save to (or print to) a pdf file, which could then be up-loaded to the group. Bill CollinsSummerville, SCgenedigger@... From: "Mary Robbins merobbins336@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" To: "robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] For Mary Robbins Good Morning,Sara, I read your email at 1 in the a.m., regarding an invitation/request, and now I am trying to figure out origin of your question. Are you referring to my 12/30/15 email to the group, regarding Robi ns' in SW PA? I see that I did not answer your 1/4/16 missive. Yes,I do intend to continue to look for leads and families that connect to the Robins/Robbins families in that region. I am looking back on my photoc opies I see a 'sketch' on Theophilus Phillips in Springhill Twp., in History of Fayette County, Pennsylvania, With Biographical Sketches of many of its Pioneers and Prominent Men., Edited by Franklin Ellis, Volume I, 18 82.Col. Theophilus Phillips emigrated to Fayette Co. in 1767, from NJ, with his brother-in-law Rev. James Dunlap. The cleared land and farmed along a stream, later called Dunlap's Creek. Phillips went on to purchase lan d that he called Phillips Choice (bordering Daniel Robins' property named Reliance. Rev. James Dunlap later became the minister in the Presbyterian Church, in the New Geneva area, where Theo. Phillips was an elder. T here is much written about Theophillus Phillips, and the more I read, the more connections I see, through his life and the marriages of children and grandchildren. If I could only learn how to scan, there is an artic le I found online that I hope to put on our Robbins site. There was and "old Bachelor, historian, Thomas Clare (Springhill Twp.), who told about how it was Back in the Olden Times. It mentions that Thomas Clare purchase d land from the heirs of Daniel Robins... Thanks for following up, Mary On Saturday, January 9, 2016 9:13 AM, "Shirley Hawley robins.shirley@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: I got that request too?? Sent from my iPad On Jan 9, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Mary Robbins merobbins336@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Invitation/request? I'm sorry, I follow what you mean. Mary On Friday, January 8, 2016 3:26 PM, "july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: Mary,I received your e-mail invitation/request. I hope you received my response. 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It had nothing to do with any message here. I was curious if you received my response to the Linkedin, didn’t want you to think I had ignored your invitation. I didn’t have your h ome e-mail address at the time so contacted you here. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 11:30 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] For Mary Robbins Good Morning, Sara, I read your email at 1 in the a.m., regarding an invitation/request, and now I am trying to figure out origin of your question. Are you referring to my 12/30/15 email to the group, regarding Robins' in SW PA? I s ee that I did not answer your 1/4/16 missive. Yes, I do intend to continue to look for leads and families that connect to the Robins/Robbins families in that region. I am looking back on my photocopies I see a 'sketch' on Theophilus Phillips in Springhill Twp., in History of Fayette County, Pennsylvania, With Biographical Sketches of many of its Pioneers and Prominent Men., Edit ed by Franklin Ellis, Volume I, 1882. Col. Theophilus Phillips emigrated to Fayette Co. in 1767, from NJ, with his brother-in-law Rev. James Dunlap. The cleared land and farmed along a stream, later called Dunlap's Creek. Phillips went on to purchase land t hat he called Phillips Choice (bordering Daniel Robins' property named Reliance. Rev. James Dunlap later became the minister in the Presbyterian Church, in the New Geneva area, where Theo. Phillips was an elder. Ther e is much written about Theophillus Phillips, and the more I read, the more connections I see, through his life and the marriages of children and grandchildren. If I could only learn how to scan, there is an article I found online that I hope to put on our Robbins site. There was and "old Bachelor, historian, Thomas Clare (Springhill Twp.), who told about how it was Back in the Olden Times. It mentions that Thomas Clare purchased land from the heirs of Daniel Robins... Thanks for following up, Mary On Saturday, January 9, 2016 9:13 AM, "Shirley Hawley robins.shirley@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: I got that request too?? Sent from my iPad On Jan 9, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Mary Robbins merobbins336@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > wrote: Invitation/request? I'm sorry, I follow what you mean. Mary On Friday, January 8, 2016 3:26 PM, "july37@cox.net [robbinsfamilysociety]" > wrote: Mary, I received your e-mail invitation/request. I hope you received my response. Sara ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1265 Sender:Mary Robbins Post Date/Time:2016-01-09 16:42:37 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] For Mary Robbins Message: Thank Bill, I'm going to give that a try. Mary On Saturday, January 9, 2016 2:18 PM, "William Collins genedigger@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: Mary, you don't need to scan. What you can do is save to (or print to) a pdf file, which could then be up-loaded to the group. Bill CollinsSummerville, SCgenedigger@... From: "Mary Robbins merobbins336@yahoo.com [robbinsfamilysociety]" To: "robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] For Mary Robbins Good Morning,Sara, I read your email at 1 in the a.m., regarding an invitation/request, and now I am trying to figure out origin of your question. Are you referring to my 12/30/15 email to the group, regarding Robi ns' in SW PA? I see that I did not answer your 1/4/16 missive. Yes,I do intend to continue to look for leads and families that connect to the Robins/Robbins families in that region. I am looking back on my photoc opies I see a 'sketch' on Theophilus Phillips in Springhill Twp., in History of Fayette County, Pennsylvania, With Biographical Sketches of many of its Pioneers and Prominent Men., Edited by Franklin Ellis, Volume I, 18 82.Col. Theophilus Phillips emigrated to Fayette Co. in 1767, from NJ, with his brother-in-law Rev. James Dunlap. The cleared land and farmed along a stream, later called Dunlap's Creek. Phillips went on to purchase lan d that he called Phillips Choice (bordering Daniel Robins' property named Reliance. Rev. James Dunlap later became the minister in the Presbyterian Church, in the New Geneva area, where Theo. Phillips was an elder. T here is much written about Theophillus Phillips, and the more I read, the more connections I see, through his life and the marriages of children and grandchildren. If I could only learn how to scan, there is an artic le I found online that I hope to put on our Robbins site. There was and "old Bachelor, historian, Thomas Clare (Springhill Twp.), who told about how it was Back in the Olden Times. It mentions that Thomas Clare purchase d land from the heirs of Daniel Robins... Thanks for following up, Mary On Saturday, January 9, 2016 9:13 AM, "Shirley Hawley robins.shirley@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: I got that request too?? Sent from my iPad On Jan 9, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Mary Robbins merobbins336@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Invitation/request? I'm sorry, I follow what you mean. Mary On Friday, January 8, 2016 3:26 PM, "july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: Mary,I received your e-mail invitation/request. I hope you received my response. 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Post Date/Time:2016-01-27 21:02:06 Subject:Robins/Robbins and others... Message: I am copying this from the group HT-35 in FTDNA to show the development of the progression of the research in the Y DNA segment, to show some relatedness between some of our members: Big thanks to Dirk Struve for the great advice about STRs he has given to many of you. Last November, Dirk shared that he has his own Phylofriend program. Since Sergey and Atanas were/are very busy, I asked Dirk to run some haplotypes that are suspected of belonging to the R1b-CTS3937 haplogroup and it's M64 branch through his Phylofriend program in order to see what the STR relationships look like. Phylogenetic trees based on STRs ca n be inaccurate because STRs lack the stability of SNPs. One odd slow mutating STR can really mess it up. STR based trees can also show the need for SNP testing to produce an accurate tree. This 67 STR based R1b-CTS3937 Phylogenetic Tree created a great deal of interest in the Robins and Grant surname projects. My closest STR match too. Three Big Y tests were ordered over the holidays. This is a huge step forward towards the goal of d efining the Y DNA relationships of this group and putting some meat on the TMRCA estimates between the different surnames. The best we have now is an estimate of TMRCA 3900 ybp from YFull for the R1b-CTS3937 phylogeneti c level. As these three new Big Y tests are added to this project's tree by Sergey and then the YFull haplotree, that estimate for CTS3937 is bound to change. R1b-M64 and several new branches will be added with their ow n TRMCA estimates. Good Stuff! Noch einmal....Vielen Dank Dirk. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1267 Sender:"todd.d.robbins@..." Post Date/Time:2016-01-27 21:12:23 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robins/Robbins and others... Message: This is great! Thanks for sharing, Richard! On Wednesday, January 27, 2016, richard.robbins13@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > I am copying this from the group HT-35 in FTDNA to show the development of > the progression of the research in the Y DNA segment, to show some > relatedness between some of our members: > > Big thanks to Dirk Struve for the great advice about STRs he has given to > many of you. Last November, Dirk shared that he has his own Phylofriend > program. Since Sergey and Atanas were/are very busy, I asked Dirk to run > some haplotypes that are suspected of belonging to the R1b-CTS3937 > haplogroup and it's M64 branch through his Phylofriend program in order to > see what the STR relationships look like. Phylogenetic trees based on STRs > can be inaccurate because STRs lack the stability of SNPs. One odd slow > mutating STR can really mess it up. STR based trees can also show the need > for SNP testing to produce an accurate tree. This 67 STR based R1b-CTS3937 > Phylogenetic Tree created a great deal of interest in the Robins and Grant > surname projects. My closest STR match too. Three Big Y tests were ordered > over the holidays. This is a huge step forward towards the goal of defining > the Y DNA relationships of this group and putting some meat on the TMRCA > estimates between the different surnames. The best we have now is an > estimate of TMRCA 3900 ybp from YFull for the R1b-CTS3937 phylogenetic > level. As these three new Big Y tests are added to this project's tree by > Sergey and then the YFull haplotree, that estimate for CTS3937 is bound to > change. R1b-M64 and several new branches will be added with their own TRMCA > estimates. Good Stuff! Noch einmal....Vielen Dank Dirk. > > > > > -- Tod Robbins Digital Asset Manager, MLIS todrobbins.com | @todrobbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1268 Sender:richard.robbins13@... Post Date/Time:2016-02-23 19:37:39 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robins/Robbins and others... Message: Newest info on the DNA testing front. Some more Robbins are coming out with Big Y! The latest match confirmed what John German was saying all along about the NC Robbins bunch. They are related to the Daniel Robins group 1. Here is a post from someone involved in this process, where there is a bunch of help deciphering the big Y testing. The other two Big Y test results are starting to come in now and both are M64+. R1b-M269>L23>Z2103>Z2106>Z2108>Z2109>CTS3937>M64 Page is from the Grant suname project. Thank you Norma. Like the Rose haplotype, the Page/ Grant sample will be very helpful in refining the TMRCA estimates for subgroup Robbins 1 - Descendants of Daniel Robins. The other Big Y test is a Robins! Thank you Lora for testing your dad. Once FTDNA releases the BAM files the real analysis will begin. Hopefully we will be able to get three TMRCA (time to most recent common ancestor) estimates by three different methods between #74013 Daniel Robins (Robinson) b.1627 d.1714 R-M64 an d #436428 E.F. Robbins (branch leads to Daniel Robins b1627) R-M64. First will be the SNP analaysis based TMRCA as seen on the YFull tree. Then the deep analysis of 490+ STRs from the BAM files along with the FTDNA STRs tested for the other two estimates. The STRs will be getting an extra extreme analysis from Dirk Struve, the gentleman that made the phylogenetic tree for us last fall. We can expect some changes and refinement to that tree based on the new test results that have come in. I've asked Dirk to be a co-administrator of the R1b-M343 (xP312 xU106) haplogroup project at YFull with a special focus on STRs. He accepted and we are very fortuna te to have his expertise focused on our area of the human haplotree. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/ht-3-5new/about/results R-Z2103 YTree http://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z2103/ R-Z2103 YTree http://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z2103/ YFull YTree v4.02 Archive YFull Y-SNPs News SEARCH HomeA0-TA1A1bBTCTCFFGHIJKHIJKIJKKK(xLT)MP-M1205PRR-Y482R1R1bR-L278R-L389R-P297R-M269R-L23 View on www.yfull.com http://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z2103/ Preview by Yahoo ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1269 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2016-04-02 11:00:15 Subject:Charles J ALLEN Message: I learned recently that Charles J ALLEN and his wife both passed away last year. Charles was a list member here. Charles possessed many valuable Hunterdon County, NJ ROBINS records, many of which I had never seen anywhere else. Hopefully the records were transferred to the Hunterdon County Historical Society. Charles believed that Jonathan ROBINS (1793-1872, married Charity LOMPING Lawshe) was the great grandson of Jonathan ROBINS (1694-1774) and not the grandson as is generally accepted. However, he had no direct evidence ... only circumstantial evidence. Charles' wife was Ruth Robbins HUFF. Ruth's ancestry: Ruth Robbins HUFF daughter of Charles W HUFF and Ella Marion CRISSMAN Ella Marion CRISSMAN daughter of Andrew S CRISSMAN and Mary Augusta ROBINS Mary Augusta ROBINS daughter of Moses ROBINS and Susan Mary KELS Moses ROBINS son of Jonathan ROBINS and Charity LOMPING -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1270 Sender:"todd.d.robbins@..." Post Date/Time:2016-04-04 12:06:23 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Charles J ALLEN Message: Marshall, Thank you for informing the list. Do you have a link to their obituaries? –Tod On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > > I learned recently that Charles J ALLEN and his wife both passed away last > year. Charles was a list member here. > > Charles possessed many valuable Hunterdon County, NJ ROBINS records, many > of which I had never seen anywhere else. Hopefully the records were > transferred to the Hunterdon County Historical Society. > > Charles believed that Jonathan ROBINS (1793-1872, married Charity LOMPING > Lawshe) was the great grandson of Jonathan ROBINS (1694-1774) and not the > grandson as is generally accepted. However, he had no direct evidence ... > only circumstantial evidence. > > Charles' wife was Ruth Robbins HUFF. Ruth's ancestry: > > Ruth Robbins HUFF daughter of > Charles W HUFF and Ella Marion CRISSMAN > > Ella Marion CRISSMAN daughter of > Andrew S CRISSMAN and Mary Augusta ROBINS > > Mary Augusta ROBINS daughter of > Moses ROBINS and Susan Mary KELS > > Moses ROBINS son of > Jonathan ROBINS and Charity LOMPING > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net > > -- Tod Robbins Digital Asset Manager, MLIS todrobbins.com | @todrobbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1271 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2016-04-05 06:06:06 Subject:Re: Charles J ALLEN Message: http://obits.lehighvalleylive.com/obituaries/etpa/obituary.aspx?pid=174064459 and http://obits.lehighvalleylive.com/obituaries/etpa/obituary.aspx?pid=175256386 > Thank you for informing the list. Do you have a link to their obituaries? >> I learned recently that Charles J ALLEN and his wife both passed away last >> year. Charles was a list member here. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1272 Sender:"todd.d.robbins@..." Post Date/Time:2016-04-05 22:25:22 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Charles J ALLEN Message: Thank you for the links, Marshall. On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 7:06 AM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > > > http://obits.lehighvalleylive.com/obituaries/etpa/obituary.aspx?pid=174064459 > and > > http://obits.lehighvalleylive.com/obituaries/etpa/obituary.aspx?pid=175256386 > > > Thank you for informing the list. Do you have a link to their obituaries? > > >> I learned recently that Charles J ALLEN and his wife both passed away > last > >> year. Charles was a list member here. > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net_ > -- Tod Robbins Digital Asset Manager, MLIS todrobbins.com | @todrobbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1273 Sender:"Stromberger, John" Post Date/Time:2016-06-21 04:55:43 Subject:Thanks for adding me - my connection Message: My earliest rock solid Robbins ancestor is Daniel, born 1835 in Pennsylvania. Daniel is a sibling to the following, among others: Jesse Franklin Robbins Martin Van Buren Robbins Andrew Jackson Robbins I believe his family was focused in that Green County Pa, Monogolia WV area. I am trying to place the father of these siblings as George Robbins, son of William Robbins an Mary Evans. Looking to find other researchers in this branch. I have DNA kits on Ancestry (kissprof), gedmatch (a236294), and ftdna (B107481). Thanks! John Stromberger Washington IL -- "This message and any attachment constitute a PRIVATE and CONFIDENTIAL communication and may contain legally privileged information. Do not share any information from this communication with any one unless you have received permission from the sender. If you are not the intended recipient, further distribution or use of these items is prohibited. In that case, do not read, copy or use the information contained herein or disclose it to others. Please notify the sender of the delivery error by replying to this message and then delete it from your system." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1274 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2016-06-22 13:23:55 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Thanks for adding me - my connection Message: I tried to do a 1-to-1 compare between my GEDmatch kit (T359684) and your GEDmatch kit and got: ERROR: Kit A236294 not found. Even so, our common ancestor may be too many generations ago to show much. I don't have a William ROBBINS & Mary EVANS in my data. Can you provide more info? > My earliest rock solid Robbins ancestor is Daniel, born 1835 in > Pennsylvania. Daniel is a sibling to the following, among others: > > Jesse Franklin Robbins > Martin Van Buren Robbins > Andrew Jackson Robbins > > I believe his family was focused in that Green County Pa, Monogolia WV > area. I am trying to place the father of these siblings as George Robbins, > son of William Robbins an Mary Evans. Looking to find other researchers in > this branch. > > I have DNA kits on Ancestry (kissprof), gedmatch (a236294), and ftdna > (B107481). -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1275 Sender:"Stromberger, John" Post Date/Time:2016-06-22 13:54:12 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Thanks for adding me - my connection Message: Thank you sir. Sorry, the kit is A236954. We are not a DNA match,and we only have one common match. There is a post on this group called "Robins Wills of Greene/Fayette County PA" ( https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/robbinsfamilysociety/conversations/messages/1258) that mentions William and Mary, and their son George that I am trying to link my George to. I could have just replied to that but that post confused me a bit so I thought I would start fresh. On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@mlake.net [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > > I tried to do a 1-to-1 compare between my GEDmatch kit (T359684) and your > GEDmatch kit and got: > > ERROR: Kit A236294 not found. > > Even so, our common ancestor may be too many generations ago to show much. > > I don't have a William ROBBINS & Mary EVANS in my data. Can you provide > more info? > > > My earliest rock solid Robbins ancestor is Daniel, born 1835 in > > Pennsylvania. Daniel is a sibling to the following, among others: > > > > Jesse Franklin Robbins > > Martin Van Buren Robbins > > Andrew Jackson Robbins > > > > I believe his family was focused in that Green County Pa, Monogolia WV > > area. I am trying to place the father of these siblings as George > Robbins, > > son of William Robbins an Mary Evans. Looking to find other researchers > in > > this branch. > > > > I have DNA kits on Ancestry (kissprof), gedmatch (a236294), and ftdna > > (B107481). > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net > > -- "This message and any attachment constitute a PRIVATE and CONFIDENTIAL communication and may contain legally privileged information. Do not share any information from this communication with any one unless you have received permission from the sender. If you are not the intended recipient, further distribution or use of these items is prohibited. In that case, do not read, copy or use the information contained herein or disclose it to others. Please notify the sender of the delivery error by replying to this message and then delete it from your system." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1276 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2016-06-23 04:38:57 Subject:Re: Thanks for adding me - my connection Message: I lowered the matching threholds and ran a 1-to-1 between our two kits on GEDmatch yielding some positive results. I really don't know, though, exactly what the results mean. I'm afraid I don't know much about the ROBINS/ROBBINS of SW PA. There are others here who are researching there. > Thank you sir. Sorry, the kit is A236954. We are not a DNA match,and we > only have one common match. > > There is a post on this group called "Robins Wills of Greene/Fayette County > PA" ( > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/robbinsfamilysociety/conversations/messages/1258) > that mentions William and Mary, and their son George that I am trying to > link my George to. > > I could have just replied to that but that post confused me a bit so I > thought I would start fresh. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:1277 Sender:maspden@... Post Date/Time:2016-12-31 20:56:18 Subject:New Member Request to join Message: Have recently been contacted by a Chris Robbins who wishes to join our Robbins Family Society. But not sure how to go about this process. I have his email address as well as his basic Robbins Family History. Looks intri guing. Suspect one or more member will be able to help Chris. He has previously corresponded with Sara. Happy New Year! Murr