----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2036 Sender:"todd.d.robbins@..." Post Date/Time:2018-01-04 09:25:57 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fwd: Robbins Graves [3 Attachments] Message: Thank you for sharing, Cynthia! I think you may have found some lost sheep. šŸ˜ƒ ā€“Tod On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Cynthia Victor cjvictor8855@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > > Hello All! > > Hope everyone had a great holiday and wishing a Happy New Year! > > I am forwarding an email that I recently sent to Sara and Marshall. While > looking at some cemetery records I came across these 3 gravestones for a > Robbins family, looks like parents and adult son. > > I have no idea whether they connect to Daniel Robbins but perhaps someone > may know them or connect to them. Sara suggested I post this to group. > > Hope it helps somewhere. > Cynthia Victor > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From:* Cynthia Victor > *Date:* December 26, 2017 at 7:04:49 PM CST > *To:* Marshall Lake , july37@... > *Subject:* *Robbins Graves* > > Marshall and Sara, > > I was searching through the memorials of the Saddle River Reformed Church > cemetery and found one for a Robbins family. Not sure if this is already > known or even connected but thought I would pass it on. > > > > > > > > > > Warmest regards, > Cynthia > > > -- Tod Robbins, MLIS todrobbins.com | @todrobbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2037 Sender:Cynthia Victor Post Date/Time:2018-01-04 17:26:23 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fwd: Robbins Graves Message: Tod, Just hope it is helpful to Robbins story! Cynthia > On Jan 4, 2018, at 10:25 AM, 'todd.d.robbins@...' todd.d.robbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > Thank you for sharing, Cynthia! I think you may have found some lost sheep. šŸ˜ƒ > > > ā€“Tod > > > >> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Cynthia Victor cjvictor8855@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: >> >> >> Hello All! >> >> >> Hope everyone had a great holiday and wishing a Happy New Year! >> >> I am forwarding an email that I recently sent to Sara and Marshall. While looking at some cemetery records I came across these 3 gravestones for a Robbins family, looks like parents and adult son. >> >> I have no idea whether they connect to Daniel Robbins but perhaps someone may know them or connect to them. Sara suggested I post this to group. >> >> Hope it helps somewhere. >> Cynthia Victor >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Cynthia Victor >>> Date: December 26, 2017 at 7:04:49 PM CST >>> To: Marshall Lake , july37@... >>> Subject: Robbins Graves >>> >>> Marshall and Sara, >>> >>> I was searching through the memorials of the Saddle River Reformed Church cemetery and found one for a Robbins family. Not sure if this is already known or even connected but thought I would pass it on. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Warmest regards, >>> Cynthia >> > > > > -- > Tod Robbins, MLIS > todrobbins.com | @todrobbins > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2038 Sender:richard.robbins13@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-11 13:40:16 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac ROBINS (1758-1836) Message: I have a DNA match to a descendant of Isaac through autosomal DNA. It's really random, of course, with the recombination issue, but it does confirm in a way the connection to that branch of the Robins family in Knowlton NJ. Also, I've gotten a new match to a person in England. No US connections at all that I can see, being on My Heritage. But there IS a Robins there. I cannot see any other connections, maybe there is, but time will tell. Mary Robins married a Green in Bromsgrove UK, in Worcestershire. 1730's. Still looking for the elusive origin of Daniel Robins. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2039 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-01-11 20:26:01 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac ROBINS (1758-1836) Message: I really don't know much about analyzing auDNA results, but from what I *think* I know it's not good for matching more than 3-4 generations removed from the tester(s). How many generations removed are you from the ROBINS of Knowlton Twp, Warren/Sussex County? How many generations are you removed from Mary ROBINS of Bromsgrove, UK? Something which might enhance the match result would be multiple matches with the other tester. > Posted by: richard.robbins13@... richard.robbins13 > Date: Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:40 pm ((PST)) > > I have a DNA match to a descendant of Isaac through autosomal DNA. > > It's really random, of course, with the recombination issue, but it does > confirm in a way the connection to that branch of the Robins family in > Knowlton NJ. > > Also, I've gotten a new match to a person in England. No US connections > at all that I can see, being on My Heritage. But there IS a Robins there. > I cannot see any other connections, maybe there is, but time will tell. > > Mary Robins married a Green in Bromsgrove UK, in Worcestershire. 1730's. > > Still looking for the elusive origin of Daniel Robins. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2040 Sender:richard.robbins13@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-12 07:59:51 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac ROBINS (1758-1836) Message: I get 3 to 4 generation matches as a matter of course. Even smaller matches are helpful. Have you taken a DNA test? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2041 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-01-12 19:34:21 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] auDNA (was: Isaac ROBINS (1758-1836)) Message: My auDNA test results are kit# T359684 on . > Posted by: richard.robbins13@... richard.robbins13 > Date: Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:59 am ((PST)) > > Have you taken a DNA test? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2042 Sender:richard.robbins13@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-12 20:15:48 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] auDNA (was: Isaac ROBINS (1758-1836)) Message: You DO match a Robbins in your results. So, it's not impossible. 5.6 generations out. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2043 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-01-13 19:57:26 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] auDNA Message: I'm really not qualified to debate/analyze auDNA test results but let me make a couple of comments and ask a question. My understanding is that any matches under 7cM are normally not worth pursuing. One reason is that a match under 7cM is more likely to be a false match than a positive match. What is the extent of the match between my kit and the ROBBINS kit? Any insights or links you can provide to help me better understand are welcome. > Posted by: richard.robbins13@... richard.robbins13 > Date: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:23 pm ((PST)) > > You DO match a Robbins in your results. So, it's not impossible. 5.6 generations out. > > Posted by: "Marshall Lake" mlake@... mlake692000 > > Date: Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:34 pm ((PST)) > > > > My auDNA test results are kit# T359684 on . -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2044 Sender:richard.robbins13@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-14 20:40:27 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] auDNA Message: Well, you're at 9.7 cM and 5.6 generations estimated. I'd say it's worth pursuing, if for nothing else curiosity as to how and when you match actually. As far as the other matches I mentioned, it's probably not within the realm of reality that the English match would be related to me directly, but the obvious lack of matches to Scotland in either Y-DNA or any autosoma l matching is a little disturbing. I'm not sure if anyone else has tested in either Ancestry, FTDNA, My Heritage, or 23 and me, but there are groups on Facebook that have a matching tool that will allow you to compare with people that are looking for ma tches in Scotland and England. I only matched 3 people in Scotland, 7 in Ireland. It's really a roll of the dice, but I'll post these Facebook groups here, and you can pursue it if you like. Scotland https://www.facebook.com/groups/988052214556458/?fref=nf https://www.facebook.com/groups/988052214556458/?fref=nf Irish https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheIrishDNARegistry/?fref=nf https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheIrishDNARegistry/?fref=nf ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2045 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-01-16 21:31:05 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] auDNA Message: I've sent the match a message. Hopefully I'll get a response (most times I do not). Thanks for your help. > Posted by: richard.robbins13@... richard.robbins13 > Date: Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:40 pm ((PST)) > > Well, you're at 9.7 cM and 5.6 generations estimated. I'd say it's worth > pursuing, if for nothing else curiosity as to how and when you match > actually. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2046 Sender:july37@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-18 08:04:54 Subject:John Reed Robbins 1824-1911 Message: John German sent me a copy of this letter written by John Reed Robbins after he found the YDNA of a John Reed Robbins descendant matched the Daniel Robins descendants. I believe this line comes from the NC Robins. Does anyone know? Any new information? John was searching for links in 2012. JOHN REED ROBBINS Oldest son of Texas. Native Born Texan To the Galveston News, Gonzales Texas, July 10, year ? "I see in your valuable paper where they are trying to find the oldest native-born Texan. I therefore take pleasure in addressing you these few lines in order to give you some information of my life and how long I have been here. I don't know as I'm the oldest, but feel certain I'll tally up in being the next. My father came to Texas with Houston in 1822. He settled on the Trinity River. There he put in the first ferry boat ever buil t in the state of Texas. It now goes by the name of Robbins Ferry. He lived there twelve months, then sold out to his brother Nat Robbins, and moved to the Brazos. Settled four miles north of St. Philippi, on Mill Creek . There I was born, the 27th day of March, 1824. The first public works they had in Texas - a water mill- was built by a man by the name of Cummings. He received 15 leagues of land for erecting it. My mother and a lady by the name of Mrs. McCoy were the first two women that slept on the soil of Texas. I have lived under all flags; have been in all campaigns gotten up in Texas, except 1830. The first gun that was fired was fired 4 mile s west of Gonzales, on the south side of the river, the beginning of the Mexican War. The people of Gonzales have erected a large granite stone, giving all dates. The oldest settlers had a hard row to weed when they fir st came here. The closest market was Red River. We had no post office. All mail came by hand. I drank my first glass of buttermilk out of a terrapin shell. The first man baptized in Texas was baptized by my uncle Isaac Reed, in 1830 in Nacogdoches County. The first Methodist meeting in Texas was held in Austin County in 1834, Rev. Bavett being the preacher. The first man that joined the church was a man by then name of Rabb in 1834. T exas was a wild place, but God Almighty, being powerful and victorious over all things, has made it a grand and good place. The health of the community is generally good. Crops are good." "John R. Robbins" I enjoyed reading this letter & hope the group will too. Sara ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2047 Sender:richard.robbins13@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-18 11:12:34 Subject:Re: John Reed Robbins 1824-1911 Message: There are a few NC people that John German was working with, but this guy in the letter below was not one of the test takers, or if his earliest known ancestor was NC there's no way I can trace that back to a kit withou t the original email address. How many emails do you have from John German? That being said, there's a lot of North Carolina test takers that match the modal for Robbins group 1 perfectly. There's variations, but not much to worry about in that respect. Further testing after John died, with the big Y led to a few discoveries with matching, separate from the whole YDNA 12 to 111 marker thing. My Big Y test shows a terminal haplogroup of Y-34195. I match a person from NC at the Y-34195 level with Robbins as las t name. So, I'd think John would be happy for that, at least. Closest single SNP that can be tested to my Y-34195 is CTS3937 which is upstream from Y-34195 in the tree. If anyone in Group 1 wants to spend the money to do that, it's $39 at https://www.familytreedna.com/upgrades.a spx?ot=ADV https://www.familytreedna.com/upgrades.aspx?ot=ADV ---In robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com, wrote : John German sent me a copy of this letter written by John Reed Robbins after he found the YDNA of a John Reed Robbins descendant matched the Daniel Robins descendants. I believe this line comes from the NC Robins. Does anyone know? Any new information? John was searching for links in 2012. JOHN REED ROBBINS Oldest son of Texas. Native Born Texan To the Galveston News, Gonzales Texas, July 10, year ? "I see in your valuable paper where they are trying to find the oldest native-born Texan. I therefore take pleasure in addressing you these few lines in order to give you some information of my life and how long I have been here. I don't know as I'm the oldest, but feel certain I'll tally up in being the next. My father came to Texas with Houston in 1822. He settled on the Trinity River. There he put in the first ferry boat ever buil t in the state of Texas. It now goes by the name of Robbins Ferry. He lived there twelve months, then sold out to his brother Nat Robbins, and moved to the Brazos. Settled four miles north of St. Philippi, on Mill Creek . There I was born, the 27th day of March, 1824. The first public works they had in Texas - a water mill- was built by a man by the name of Cummings. He received 15 leagues of land for erecting it. My mother and a lady by the name of Mrs. McCoy were the first two women that slept on the soil of Texas. I have lived under all flags; have been in all campaigns gotten up in Texas, except 1830. The first gun that was fired was fired 4 mile s west of Gonzales, on the south side of the river, the beginning of the Mexican War. The people of Gonzales have erected a large granite stone, giving all dates. The oldest settlers had a hard row to weed when they fir st came here. The closest market was Red River. We had no post office. All mail came by hand. I drank my first glass of buttermilk out of a terrapin shell. The first man baptized in Texas was baptized by my uncle Isaac Reed, in 1830 in Nacogdoches County. The first Methodist meeting in Texas was held in Austin County in 1834, Rev. Bavett being the preacher. The first man that joined the church was a man by then name of Rabb in 1834. T exas was a wild place, but God Almighty, being powerful and victorious over all things, has made it a grand and good place. The health of the community is generally good. Crops are good." "John R. Robbins" I enjoyed reading this letter & hope the group will too. Sara ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2048 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-01-18 14:42:22 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: John Reed Robbins 1824-1911 Message: Richard Agree, John Reed Robbins couldnā€™t have been a test taker because he died in 1911. John Germanā€™s e-mail states ā€œ a descendant of John Reed Robbins has provided a sample (#111361) for testing.ā€ In 2012, the results accord ing to John were available at www.ftdna.com/public/robins & he said the testerā€™s results matched the Daniel Robins family. His speculation was John Reed Robbins was likely from the Randolph Co., NC Robbins. I knew John for many years so accumulated more e-mails than I care to count. From what I can determine, the YDNA results in 2012 established John Rā€™s family relationship to Daniel Robins. What Iā€™m interesting in finding is the link from John Reed Robbins back to Daniel Robins. Itā€™s likely John Rā€™s parents were William & Mary ā€œPollyā€ Reed Robbins. However, I donā€™t have a good source for John Rā€™s parents. Iā€™m c urious if any other researcher has discovered anything new on the John Reed Robbins family? Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 11:13 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: John Reed Robbins 1824-1911 There are a few NC people that John German was working with, but this guy in the letter below was not one of the test takers, or if his earliest known ancestor was NC there's no way I can trace that back to a kit withou t the original email address. How many emails do you have from John German? That being said, there's a lot of North Carolina test takers that match the modal for Robbins group 1 perfectly. There's variations, but not much to worry about in that respect. Further testing after John died, with the big Y led to a few discoveries with matching, separate from the whole YDNA 12 to 111 marker thing. My Big Y test shows a terminal haplogroup of Y-34195. I match a person from NC at the Y-34195 level with Robbins as las t name. So, I'd think John would be happy for that, at least. Closest single SNP that can be tested to my Y-34195 is CTS3937 which is upstream from Y-34195 in the tree. If anyone in Group 1 wants to spe nd the money to do that, it's $39 at https://www.familytreedna.com/upgrades.aspx?ot=ADV ---In robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com, wrote : John German sent me a copy of this letter written by John Reed Robbins after he found the YDNA of a John Reed Robbins descendant matched the Daniel Robins descendants. I believe this line comes from the NC Robins. Does anyone know? Any new information? John was searching for links in 2012. JOHN REED ROBBINS Oldest son of Texas. Native Born Texan To the Galveston News, Go nzales Texas, July 10, year ? "I see in your valuable paper where they are trying to find the oldest native-born Texan. I therefore take pleasure in addressing you these few lines in order to give you some information of my life and how long I have been here. I don't know as I'm the oldest, but feel certain I'll tally up in being the next. My father came to Texas with Houston in 1822. He settled on the Trinity River. There he put in the first ferry boat ever built in the state of Texas. It now goes by the name of Robbins Ferry. He lived there twelve months, then sold out to his brother Nat Robbins, and moved to the Brazos. Settled four miles north of St. Philippi, on Mill Creek. There I was born, the 27th day of March, 1824. The first public works they had in Texas - a water mill- was built by a man by the name of Cummings. He received 15 leagues of land for erecting it. My mother and a lady b y the name of Mrs. McCoy were the first two women that slept on the soil of Texas. I have lived under all flags; have been in all campaigns gotten up in Texas, except 1830. The first gun that was fired was fired 4 miles west of Gonzales, on the south side of the river, the beginning of the Mexican War. The people of Gonzales have erected a large granite stone, giving all dates. The oldest settlers had a hard row to weed when they firs t came here. The closest market was Red River. We had no post office. All mail came by hand. I drank my first glass of buttermilk out of a terrapin shell. The first man baptized in Texas was baptized by my uncle Isaac R eed, in 1830 in Nacogdoches County. The first Methodist meeting in Texas was held in Austin County in 1834, Rev. Bavett being the preacher. The first man that joined the church was a man by then name of Rabb in 1834. Te xas was a wild place, but God Almighty, being powerful and victorious over all things, has made it a grand and good place. The health of the community is generally good. Crops are good.&quo t; "John R. Robbins" I enjoyed reading this letter & hope the group will too. Sara ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2049 Sender:tracey.marcelo@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-18 22:01:35 Subject:Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio Message: I made a pretty big discovery about Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio. I wanted to share it with everyone--especially Cris who first told us about this Vincent almost exactly one year ago! FamilySearch.org has digitized many deeds for Washington County Pennsylvania. And in looking at those deeds today, I found a deed between Vincent Robins Sr. and Vincent Robins Jr. both of Brown County Ohio. (Washington Co. PA Deed v. 55, 3E 1846-1848, page 600, 11 Nov 1847) The deed says the Pennsylvania property that Vincent Sr. is conveying to Vincent Jr. "has descended to" Vincent Sr. as "heir of Isaac Robbins." Exciting!! Now...I believe this Isaac Robbins is the one who died between 1781 and 1782, without a will, in the Mingo Creek area of Nottingham twp. Washington Co. PA. Isaac left a widow, Sarah, who by 1782 had married James Sutton. Isaac and Sarah also had at least 3 minor children in 1783: Isaac, William and John--who it appears are named in an orphan's court record. The orphan's court records are also digitized. However, to view them, you have to go to an LDS Family History Center and use their computers. (I've included a transcription of this deed at the bottom of this post. You can also see the copy I transcribed at: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNL-HGYH?i=322&cat=225855 ) I also found a deed in which Sarah Sutton (relict of Isaac Robbins) is selling property that belonged to Isaac Robbins. (Washington Co. PA Deeds v. 1. 1A 1781-1784, page 20, 4 July 1782) (See this deed at:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSXB-PQZ1-Q?i=17&cat=225855 ) The property is described as being 150 acres bounded by Mingo Creek and bounded by the lands of the following people: Jeremiah Washburn Peter Devore James Vannaten and "the remainder of the tract along a run commonly call'd and known by the name Robbins's Spring Run being the Northwestern part of the tract..." The men listed here are also important. Researchers of Sussex Co. Robbins families will likely recognize the surnames. The Jeremiah Washburn here was either the father or brother of George Washburn who was married to an Azubia Robbins b. about 1768. Cris suspected this Azubia was a sister to the Vincent of Brown Co. Ohio. I think that is likely too! Jeremiah's wife was Rebecca Devore. So it is interesting there is also a Devore in the list. James Vannaten is likely from the Van Etten families who were numerous in Sussex. Interestingly, in later years (early 1800s) ALL of these families end up in Brown Co. Ohio. I'd also like to make a pitch here about how important deeds are to our research. As you can see from the Vincent deed...it was in the Washington Co. PA records because that is where the property was located. However Vincent hadn't lived in Pennsylvania for close to 50 years at the time the deed was written!! Gems are out there. But you have to be willing to do the digging for them! FamilySearch has MANY land records digitized online but they are NOT digitally indexed. You have to find the digital copies of the microfilm indexes and then use them to navigate the digitized deed books. The best way to find land records on FamilySearch is: 1. Click Search at the top of the page. 2. Click Catalog. 3. In the Place field, type the county and state where you are looking for land records. For example, United States, Pennsylvania, Washington 4. Select that location and click Search. 5. Scroll through the results and locate an entry that says "Land and Property" 6. Expand the entry. 7. Look for something that has recorder of deeds a government entity as the author. For Washington Co. PA the entry is "Deed books, 1781-1886; deed index, 1781-1924" 8. Look for indexes. If the entry has a little camera icon next to it, you can view them from your computer. If the entry has a little camera with a key over it, it means you must find an LDS Family History Center in your area and view it there. If it has a little film reel, it means it is not digitized and is only on microfilm. 9. Start searching! OK. Speech over. Now we can all try to figure out who this Isaac is the son of, right? :-) And...were Vincent and Azubia his children? Or his siblings?? One way or another, Vincent Sr. in the deed was Isaac's heir... Lots to think about and debate! But at least we have more clues! Here is a transcription of the Vincent Robbins Sr. to Vincent Robbins Jr. deed of 1847: Know all men by these presents that I Vincent Robins Sr. of the County of Brown and State of Ohio of the first part for and in consideration of the sum of one hundred dollars to me in hand paid and the natural love and affection which I entertain for my son Vincent Robbins Jr. of said County and State of the second part do hereby grant sell and convey release en? and confirm until the said Vincent Robbins Jr. and to his heirs and assigns forever. All the real estate which I own or may claim title to in the State of Pennsylvania of every name and description and more particularly a tract of land containing three hundred and seventy seven acres in said State of Pennsylvania in the Township of Nottingham Washington County adjoining lands of the heirs of F. Hull, Jacob Figley, John Wallace, James Chambers, and others and more fully described in a deed dated November 16th 1795 and recorded in Book M Volume 1 page 151 & 152 the 16th day of May 1796 in favor of Isaac Robbins from whom said land has descended to me as heir of said Isaac Robbins with all and singular the appurtenances. To Have and to Hold all of the said real estate with all the appurtenances to him the said Vincent Robbins Jr. his heirs and assigns forever. In Witness Whereof I do hereto set my hand and seal this third day of June AD 1847. Signed sealed & delivered in presence of us. Tory Coon, John Stratton, G. Anderson. State of Ohio Brown County Before the undersigned one of the Justices of the peace within said County of Brown personally came Vincent Robbins Sr. the above grantor and acknowledged the above conveyance to be his free and voluntary act and deed for the uses and purposes in the same expressed and we certify that from personal knowledge we are satisfied that the said Grantor is the identical person he represents himself to be. In Witness Whereof we do hereto set our hands and seals this 3rd day of June 1847. Garlen Anderson Justice of the Peace The State of Ohio Brown County I John H Blair Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County do hereby certify that Garlen Anderson who took the foregoing acknowledgement was at the date thereof an acting Justice of the Peace in and for Brown County duly commissioned and qualified as such that said acknowledgement by him taken is in due form of law and that full faith and credit are due to all his official acts as such Justice. In Testimony Whereof I have hereto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said Court at Georgton this 23d day of August AD 1847 James H Blair Clerk Recorded and compared with original November 11 AD 1847 James Brown Recorder ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2050 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-01-19 05:28:54 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio Message: Tracey, Great find! Your pitch is right on the mark about digging in & doing the research. You are one of the best. Thank you. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 10:02 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio I made a pretty big discovery about Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio. I wanted to share it with everyone--especially Cris who first told us about this Vincent almost exactly one year ago! FamilySearch.org has digitized many deeds for Washington County Pennsylvania. And in looking at those deeds today, I found a deed between Vincent Robins Sr. and Vincent Robins Jr. both of Brown County Ohio. (Washington Co. PA Deed v. 55, 3E 1846-1848, page 600, 11 Nov 1847) The deed says the Pennsylvania property that Vincent Sr. is conveying to Vincent Jr. "has descended to" Vincent Sr. as "heir of Isaac Robbins." Exciting!! Now...I believe this Isaac Robbins is the one who died between 1781 and 1782, without a will, in the Mingo Creek area of Nottingham twp. Washington Co. PA. Isaac left a widow, Sarah, who by 1782 had married James Sutton. Isaac and Sarah also had at least 3 minor children in 1783: Isaac, William and John--who it appears are named in an orphan's court record. The orphan's court records are also digitized. However, to view them, you have to go to an LDS Family History Center and use their computers. (I've included a transcription of this deed at the bottom of this post. You can also see the copy I transcribed at: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNL-HGYH?i=322&cat=225855 ) I also found a deed in which Sarah Sutton (relict of Isaac Robbins) is selling property that belonged to Isaac Robbins. (Washington Co. PA Deeds v. 1. 1A 1781-1784, page 20, 4 July 1782) (See this deed at:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSXB-PQZ1-Q?i=17&cat=225855 ) The property is described as being 150 acres bounded by Mingo Creek and bounded by the lands of the following people: Jeremiah Washb urn Peter Devore James Vannaten and "the remainder of the tract along a run commonly call'd and known by the name Robbins's Spring Run being the Northwestern part of the tract..." The men listed here are also important. Researchers of Sussex Co. Robbins families will likely recognize the surnames. The Jeremiah Washburn here was either the father or brother of George Washburn who was married to an Azubia Robbins b. about 1768. Cris suspected this Azubia was a sister to the Vincent of Brown Co. Ohio. I think that is likely too! Jeremiah's wife was Rebecca Devore. So it is interesting there is also a Devore in the list. James Vannaten is likely from the Van Etten families who were numerous in Sussex. Interestingly, in later years (early 1800s) ALL of these families end up in Brown Co. Ohio. I'd also like to make a pitch he re about how important deeds are to our research. As you can see from the Vincent deed...it was in the Washington Co. PA records because that is where the property was located. However Vincent hadn't lived in Pennsylvania for close to 50 years at the time the deed was written!! Gems are out there. But you have to be willing to do the digging for them! FamilySearch has MANY land records digitized online but they are NOT digitally indexed. You have to find the digital copies of the microfilm indexes and then use them to navigate the digitized deed books. The best way to find land records on FamilySearch is: 1. Click Search at the top of the page. 2. Click Catalog. 3. In the Place field, type the county and state where you are looking for land records. For example, United States, Pennsylvania, Washington 4. Select that location and click Search. 5. Scroll through the results and locate an entr y that says "Land and Property" 6. Expand the entry. 7. Look for something that has recorder of deeds a government entity as the author. For Washington Co. PA the entry is "Deed books, 1781-1886; deed index, 1781-1924" 8. Look for indexes. If the entry has a little camera icon next to it, you can view them from your computer. If the entry has a little camera with a key over it, it means you must find an LDS Family History Center in your area and view it there. If it has a little film reel, it means it is not digitized and is only on microfilm. 9. Start searching! OK. Speech over. Now we can all try to figure out who this Isaac is the son of, right? :-) And...were Vincent and Azubia his children? Or his siblings?? One way or another, Vincent Sr. in the deed was Isaac's heir... Lots to think about and debate! But at least we have more clues! < p>Here is a transcription of the Vincent Robbins Sr. to Vincent Robbins Jr. deed of 1847: Know all men by these presents that I Vincent Robins Sr. of the County of Brown and State of Ohio of the first part for and in consideration of the sum of one hundred dollars to me in hand paid and the natural love and affection which I entertain for my son Vincent Robbins Jr. of said County and State of the second part do hereby grant sell and convey release en? and confirm until the said Vincent Robbins Jr. and to his heirs and assigns forever. All the real estate which I own or may claim title to in the State of Pennsylvania of every name and description and more particularly a tract of land containing three hundred and seventy seven acres in said State of Pennsylvania in the Township of Nottingham Washington County adjoining lands of the heirs of F. Hull, Jacob Figley, John Wallace, James Chambers, and others and more fully described in a deed dated November 16th 1795 and recorded in Book M Volume 1 page 151 & 152 the 16th day of May 1796 in favor of Isaac Robbins from whom said land has descended to me as heir of said Isaac Robbins with all and singular the appurtenances. To Have and to Hold all of the said real estate with all the appurtenances to him the said Vincent Robbins Jr. his heirs and assigns forever. In Witness Whereof I do hereto set my hand and seal this third day of June AD 1847. Signed sealed & delivered in presence of us. Tory Coon, John Stratton, G. Anderson. State of Ohio Brown County Before the undersigned one of the Justices of the peace within said County of Brown personally came Vincent Robbins Sr. the above grantor and acknowledged the above conveyance to be his free and voluntary act and deed for the uses and purposes in the same expressed and we certify that from personal knowledge we are satisfied that the said Grantor is the identical person he represents himself to be. In Witness Whereof we do hereto set our hands and seals this 3rd day of June 1847. Garlen Anderson Justice of the Peace The State of Ohio Brown County I John H Blair Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County do hereby certify that Garlen Anderson who took the foregoing acknowledgement was at the date thereof an acting Justice of the Peace in and for Brown County duly commissioned and qualified as such that said acknowledgement by him taken is in due form of law and that full faith and credit are due to all his official acts as such Justice. In Testimony Whereof I have hereto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said Court at Georgton this 23d day of August AD 1847 James H Blair Clerk Recorded and compared with original November 11 AD 1847 James Brown Recorder ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2051 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-01-19 05:42:12 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio Message: Thank you Sara! That means a lot to me! On Jan 19, 2018 6:29 AM, "'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: > > > Tracey, > > Great find! Your pitch is right on the mark about digging in & doing the > research. You are one of the best. Thank you. > > > Sara > > > > *From:* robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@ > yahoogroups.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, January 18, 2018 10:02 PM > *To:* robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio > > > > > > I made a pretty big discovery about Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio. > > I wanted to share it with everyone--especially Cris who first told us > about this Vincent > > almost exactly one year ago! > > > > FamilySearch.org has digitized many deeds for Washington County > Pennsylvania. > > And in looking at those deeds today, I found a deed between Vincent Robins > Sr. and > > Vincent Robins Jr. both of Brown County Ohio. (Washington Co. PA Deed v. > 55, 3E 1846-1848, page 600, 11 Nov 1847) > > > > The deed says the Pennsylvania property that Vincent Sr. is conveying to > Vincent Jr. "has descended to" Vincent Sr. as > > "heir of Isaac Robbins." Exciting!! > > Now...I believe this Isaac Robbins is the one who died between 1781 and > 1782, without a will, > > in the Mingo Creek area of Nottingham twp. Washington Co. PA. > > Isaac left a widow, Sarah, who by 1782 had married James Sutton. > > Isaac and Sarah also had at least 3 minor children in 1783: Isaac, William > and John--who it appears are > > named in an orphan's court record. The orphan's court records are also > digitized. However, to > > view them, you have to go to an LDS Family History Center and use their > computers.. > > (I've included a transcription of this deed at the bottom of this post. > You can also see the > > copy I transcribed at: https://www.familysearch.org/ > ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNL-HGYH?i=322&cat=225855 ) > > > > I also found a deed in which Sarah Sutton (relict of Isaac Robbins) is > selling property that belonged > > to Isaac Robbins. (Washington Co. PA Deeds v. 1. 1A 1781-1784, page 20, 4 > July 1782) > > (See this deed at:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSXB- > PQZ1-Q?i=17&cat=225855 ) > > > > The property is described as being 150 acres bounded by Mingo Creek and > > bounded by the lands of the following people: > > Jeremiah Washb urn > > Peter Devore > > James Vannaten > > and "the remainder of the tract along a run commonly call'd and known by > the name Robbins's Spring Run > > being the Northwestern part of the tract..." > > > > The men listed here are also important. Researchers of Sussex Co. Robbins > families will likely recognize the > > surnames. > > > > The Jeremiah Washburn here was either the father or brother of George > Washburn > > who was married to an Azubia Robbins b. about 1768. Cris suspected this > Azubia was a sister to > > the Vincent of Brown Co. Ohio. I think that is likely too! > > Jeremiah's wife was Rebecca Devore. So it is interesting there is also a > Devore in the list. > > James Vannaten is likely from the Van Etten families who were numerous in > Sussex. > > > > Interestingly, in later years (early 1800s) ALL of these families end up > in Brown Co. Ohio. > > > > I'd also like to make a pitch he re about how important deeds are to our > research. > > As you can see from the Vincent deed...it was in the Washington Co. PA > records because that is > > where the property was located. However Vincent hadn't lived in > Pennsylvania for close to 50 years > > at the time the deed was written!! Gems are out there. But you have to be > willing to do the > > digging for them! FamilySearch has MANY land records digitized online but > they are NOT digitally > > indexed. You have to find the digital copies of the microfilm indexes and > then use them to navigate > > the digitized deed books. > > The best way to find land records on FamilySearch is: > > 1. Click Search at the top of the page. > > 2. Click Catalog. > > 3. In the Place field, type the county and state where you are looking for > land records. For example, > > United States, Pennsylvania, Washington > > 4. Select that location and click Search. > > 5. Scroll through the results and locate an entr y that says "Land and > Property" > > 6. Expand the entry. > > 7. Look for something that has recorder of deeds a government entity as > the author.. For Washington Co. PA > > the entry is "Deed books, 1781-1886; deed index, 1781-1924" > > 8. Look for indexes. If the entry has a little camera icon next to it, you > can view them > > from your computer. If the entry has a little camera with a key over it, > it means you must > > find an LDS Family History Center in your area and view it there. If it > has a little film reel, > > it means it is not digitized and is only on microfilm. > > 9. Start searching! > > > > OK. Speech over. > > > > Now we can all try to figure out who this Isaac is the son of, right? :-) > > And...were Vincent and Azubia his children? Or his siblings?? One way or > another, Vincent Sr. in the deed > > was Isaac's heir... > > Lots to think about and debate! But at least we have more clues! > > > > < p>Here is a transcription of the Vincent Robbins Sr. to Vincent Robbins > Jr. deed of 1847: > > > > Know all men by these presents that I Vincent Robins Sr. of the County of > Brown and State of Ohio of the > > first part for and in consideration of the sum of one hundred dollars to > me in hand paid and the natural > > love and affection which I entertain for my son Vincent Robbins Jr. of > said County and State of the > > second part do hereby grant sell and convey release en? and confirm until > the said Vincent Robbins Jr. and > > to his heirs and assigns forever. > > All the real estate which I own or may claim title to in the State of > Pennsylvania of every name and > > description and more particularly a tract of land containing three hundred > and seventy seven acres in said > > State of Pennsylvania in the Township of Nottingham Washington County > adjoining lands of the heirs of > > F. Hull, Jacob Figley, John Wallace, James Chambers, and others and more > fully described in a deed > > dated November 16th 1795 and recorded in Book M Volume 1 page 151 & 152 > the 16th day of May 1796 in favor of *Isaac Robbins from whom said land > has descended to me as heir of said Isaac Robbins *with all and singular > the appurtenances. > > To Have and to Hold all of the said real estate with all the appurtenances > to him the said Vincent > > Robbins Jr. his heirs and assigns forever. > > In Witness Whereof I do hereto set my hand and seal this third day of June > AD 1847. > > Signed sealed & delivered in presence of us. > > Tory Coon, John Stratton, G. Anderson. > > State of Ohio > > Brown County > > Before the undersigned one of the Justices of the peace within said County > of Brown personally came Vincent > > Robbins Sr. the above grantor and acknowledged the above conveyance to be > his free and voluntary act > > and deed for the uses and purposes in the same expressed and we certify > that from personal knowledge we are satisfied that the said Grantor is the > identical person he represents himself to be. > > In Witness Whereof we do hereto set our hands and seals this 3rd day of > June 1847. > > Garlen Anderson Justice of the Peace > > The State of Ohio > > Brown County > > I John H Blair Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County > do hereby certify that > > Garlen Anderson who took the foregoing acknowledgement was at the date > thereof an acting Justice > > of the Peace in and for Brown County duly commissioned and qualified as > such that said acknowledgement > > by him taken is in due form of law and that full faith and credit are due > to all his official acts > > as such Justice. > > In Testimony Whereof I have hereto subscribed my name and affixed the seal > of said Court at Georgton > > this 23d day of August AD 1847 > > James H Blair Clerk > > Recorded and compared with original November 11 AD 1847 > > James Brown Recorder > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2052 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-19 06:13:03 Subject:Re: [Norton AntiSpam]RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio Message: Tracey, Yes, very well done. What is known of Isaac Robbins who died about 1781? Garry From: 'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 7:28 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Norton AntiSpam]RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio Tracey, Great find! Your pitch is right on the mark about digging in & doing the research. You are one of the best. Thank you. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 10:02 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio I made a pretty big discovery about Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio. I wanted to share it with everyone--especially Cris who first told us about this Vincent almost exactly one year ago! FamilySearch.org has digitized many deeds for Washington County Pennsylvania. And in looking at those deeds today, I found a deed between Vincent Robins Sr. and Vincent Robins Jr. both of Brown County Ohio. (Washington Co. PA Deed v. 55, 3E 1846-1848, page 600, 11 Nov 1847) The deed says the Pennsylvania property that Vincent Sr. is conveying to Vincent Jr. "has descended to" Vincent Sr. as "heir of Isaac Robbins." Exciting!! Now...I believe this Isaac Robbins is the one who died between 1781 and 1782, without a will, in the Mingo Creek area of Nottingham twp. Washington Co. PA. Isaac left a widow, Sarah, who by 1782 had married James Sutton. Isaac and Sarah also had at least 3 minor children in 1783: Isaac, William and John--who it appears are named in an orphan's court record. The orphan's court records are also digitized. However, to view them, you have to go to an LDS Family History Center and use their computers.. (I've included a transcription of this deed at the bottom of this post. You can also see the copy I transcribed at: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNL-HGYH?i=322&cat=225855 ) I also found a deed in which Sarah Sutton (relict of Isaac Robbins) is selling property that belonged to Isaac Robbins. (Washington Co. PA Deeds v. 1. 1A 1781-1784, page 20, 4 July 1782) (See this deed at:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSXB-PQZ1-Q?i=17&cat=225855 ) The property is described as being 150 acres bounded by Mingo Creek and bounded by the lands of the following people: Jeremiah Washb urn Peter Devore James Vannaten and "the remainder of the tract along a run commonly call'd and known by the name Robbins's Spring Run being the Northwestern part of the tract..." The men listed here are also important. Researchers of Sussex Co. Robbins families will likely recognize the surnames. The Jeremiah Washburn here was either the father or brother of George Washburn who was married to an Azubia Robbins b. about 1768. Cris suspected this Azubia was a sister to the Vincent of Brown Co. Ohio. I think that is likely too! Jeremiah's wife was Rebecca Devore. So it is interesting there is also a Devore in the list. James Vannaten is likely from the Van Etten families who were numerous in Sussex. Interestingly, in later years (early 1800s) ALL of these families end up in Brown Co. Ohio. I'd also like to make a pitch he re about how important deeds are to our research. As you can see from the Vincent deed...it was in the Washington Co. PA records because that is where the property was located. However Vincent hadn't lived in Pennsylvania for close to 50 years at the time the deed was written!! Gems are out there. But you have to be willing to do the digging for them! FamilySearch has MANY land records digitized online but they are NOT digitally indexed. You have to find the digital copies of the microfilm indexes and then use them to navigate the digitized deed books. The best way to find land records on FamilySearch is: 1. Click Search at the top of the page. 2. Click Catalog. 3. In the Place field, type the county and state where you are looking for land records. For example, United States, Pennsylvania, Washington 4. Select that location and click Search. 5. Scroll through the results and locate an entr y that says "Land and Property" 6. Expand the entry. 7. Look for something that has recorder of deeds a government entity as the author.. For Washington Co. PA the entry is "Deed books, 1781-1886; deed index, 1781-1924" 8. Look for indexes. If the entry has a little camera icon next to it, you can view them from your computer. If the entry has a little camera with a key over it, it means you must find an LDS Family History Center in your area and view it there. If it has a little film reel, it means it is not digitized and is only on microfilm. 9. Start searching! OK. Speech over. Now we can all try to figure out who this Isaac is the son of, right? :-) And...were Vincent and Azubia his children? Or his siblings?? One way or another, Vincent Sr. in the deed was Isaac's heir... Lots to think about and debate! But at least we have more clues! < p>Here is a transcription of the Vincent Robbins Sr. to Vincent Robbins Jr. deed of 1847: Know all men by these presents that I Vincent Robins Sr. of the County of Brown and State of Ohio of the first part for and in consideration of the sum of one hundred dollars to me in hand paid and the natural love and affection which I entertain for my son Vincent Robbins Jr. of said County and State of the second part do hereby grant sell and convey release en? and confirm until the said Vincent Robbins Jr. and to his heirs and assigns forever. All the real estate which I own or may claim title to in the State of Pennsylvania of every name and description and more particularly a tract of land containing three hundred and seventy seven acres in said State of Pennsylvania in the Township of Nottingham Washington County adjoining lands of the heirs of F. Hull, Jacob Figley, John Wallace, James Chambers, and others and more fully described in a deed dated November 16th 1795 and recorded in Book M Volume 1 page 151 & 152 the 16th day of May 1796 in favor of Isaac Robbins from whom said land has descended to me as heir of said Isaac Robbins with all and singular the appurtenances. To Have and to Hold all of the said real estate with all the appurtenances to him the said Vincent Robbins Jr. his heirs and assigns forever. In Witness Whereof I do hereto set my hand and seal this third day of June AD 1847. Signed sealed & delivered in presence of us. Tory Coon, John Stratton, G. Anderson. State of Ohio Brown County Before the undersigned one of the Justices of the peace within said County of Brown personally came Vincent Robbins Sr. the above grantor and acknowledged the above conveyance to be his free and voluntary act and deed for the uses and purposes in the same expressed and we certify that from personal knowledge we are satisfied that the said Grantor is the identical person he represents himself to be. In Witness Whereof we do hereto set our hands and seals this 3rd day of June 1847. Garlen Anderson Justice of the Peace The State of Ohio Brown County I John H Blair Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County do hereby certify that Garlen Anderson who took the foregoing acknowledgement was at the date thereof an acting Justice of the Peace in and for Brown County duly commissioned and qualified as such that said acknowledgement by him taken is in due form of law and that full faith and credit are due to all his official acts as such Justice. In Testimony Whereof I have hereto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said Court at Georgton this 23d day of August AD 1847 James H Blair Clerk Recorded and compared with original November 11 AD 1847 James Brown Recorder ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2053 Sender:richard.robbins13@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-19 08:27:00 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: John Reed Robbins 1824-1911 Message: I now see the person in question, since you included the kit # this message. Here's the guy in Ancestry. https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/6691294/person/6929410106/facts?_phsrc=mxL951&_phstart=successSource https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/6691294/person/6929410106/facts?_phsrc=mxL951&_phs tart=successSource Other people have John Reed Robbins as fathered by William Robbins in KY. This tree has him as being a descendant of Nathaniel Robbins Sr. 1760. in NC. IT makes sense, since the DNA matches up to Rowan county NC Robbin s. https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/877725/person/6735976519/facts https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/877725/person/6735976519/facts ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2054 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-01-19 08:36:13 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: John Reed Robbins 1824-1911 Message: Richard, Thank you for the follow up links. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 8:27 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: John Reed Robbins 1824-1911 I now see the person in question, since you included the kit # this message. Here's the guy in Ancestry. https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/6691294/person/6929410106/facts?_phsrc=mxL951 &_p hstart=successSource Other people have John Reed Robbins as fathered by William Robbins in KY. This tree has him as being a descendant of Nathaniel Robbins Sr. 1760. in NC. IT makes sense, since the DNA matches up to Rowan county NC Robbins . https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/877725/person/6735976519/facts ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2055 Sender:gheagy@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-19 10:36:05 Subject:Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: I've researching for more information on Isaac Robbins without much success. - the 1781 Tax List for Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA, does not list Isaac or Sarah. The names Washburn, Vanaten, Devore, are there. Daniel Robins, David Sutton. - the 1783 Tax List has Enos McDonald with 100 acres of land, by 1788 he has 300 acres. - I've found no listings for James Sutton, who married Isaac's widow. Possibly, James was the minister, born about 1737, who spent some time in Washington County, PA. He later went to Shelby County, Kentucky, were Vi ncent Robbins and Asubia Robbins lived. Supposedly, James Sutton Jr. was born in Washington County, PA. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2056 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-01-19 17:12:58 Subject:John ROBINS, d 1789 Alexandria Twp Message: Perhaps this has been discussed here before and I missed it or am forgetting. Another researcher has assigned John ROBINS (d 1789) as a son of Vincent ROBINS (c1720-1760). I do not know the premise for this association. In looking over the will of John ROBINS which is dated 14 Jul 1789 in Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon Co, NJ it states John's spouse as Elizabeth and his children as: Jonathan, Robert, Mary, Lydia, Rachel and John (in that sequence). It also states in the will: "that my son Robert shall be put out to his Grandfather Robins to learn the Weavers Trade". John also names a brother Jonathan in his will. I think it's more likely that John is the son of Jonathan Sr who was living in Alexandria Twp when he died intestate in 1796, and brother of Jonathan Jr who was living in Alexandria Twp when he died intestate in 1796. Apparently, from the wording in the will, John's father was still alive in 1789. John's (presumably first) son was named Jonathan. Jonathan Sr, Jonathan Jr, and John all lived in Alexandria Twp. Vincent lived in Amwell Twp. Additionally, 3 spinning wheels, a loom & gears, and yarn (weaving equipment and supplies) are named in the inventory of Jonathan Sr. Is there anything else to connect John to Jonathan Sr? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2057 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-01-19 18:46:09 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS, d 1789 Alexandria Twp Message: Marshall, The source for John Robins son of Vincent Robins is the Will of Thomas Kitchen of Hunterdon County written Oct. 29, 1757, proved Apr. 18, 1764. The Will names daughter Ann, wife of Vincent Robins & their children, Sarah, Obadiah, John & William. The John Robins with the Will dated 14 Jul 1789 is the son of Jonathan Robins, Sr. You may recall this was discussed around 2004 by the previous group when Gary Robins & Judy Arthur were researching their line from Robert Robins. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 5:13 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS, d 1789 Alexandria Twp Perhaps this has been discussed here before and I missed it or am forgetting. Another researcher has assigned John ROBINS (d 1789) as a son of Vincent ROBINS (c1720-1760). I do not know the premise for this association. In looking over the will of John ROBINS which is dated 14 Jul 1789 in Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon Co, NJ it states John's spouse as Elizabeth and his children as: Jonathan, Robert, Mary, Lydia, Rachel and John (in that sequence). It also states in the will: "that my son Robert shall be put out to his Grandfather Robins to learn the Weavers Trade". John also names a brother Jonathan in his will. I think it's more likely that John is the son of Jonathan Sr who was living in Alexandria Twp when he died intestate in 1796, and brother of Jonathan Jr who was living in Alexandria Twp when he died intestate in 1796. Apparently, from the wording in the will, John's father was still alive in 1789. John's (presumably first) son was named Jonathan. Jonathan Sr, Jonathan Jr, and John all lived in Alexandria Twp. Vincent lived in Amwell Twp. Additionally, 3 spinning wheels, a loom & gears, and yarn (weaving equipment and supplies) are named in the inventory of Jonathan Sr. Is there anything else to connect John to Jonathan Sr? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2058 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-01-19 19:49:10 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS, d 1789 Alexandria Twp Message: Thanks, Sara. Have the parents of Jonathan ROBINS Sr (d 1796) been determined (or at least best-guessed at) ? > Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 > Date: Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:47 pm ((PST)) > > Marshall, > > Kitchen of Hunterdon County written Oct. 29, 1757, proved Apr. 18, 1764. The > Will names daughter Ann, wife of Vincent Robins & their children, Sarah, > Obadiah, John & William. > > The John Robins with the Will dated 14 Jul 1789 is the son of Jonathan > Robins, Sr. You may recall this was discussed around 2004 by the previous > group when Gary Robins & Judy Arthur were researching their line from > Robert Robins. > > Sara > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 5:13 PM > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS, d 1789 Alexandria Twp > > Perhaps this has been discussed here before and I missed it or am > forgetting. > > Another researcher has assigned John ROBINS (d 1789) as a son of Vincent > ROBINS (c1720-1760). I do not know the premise for this association. > > In looking over the will of John ROBINS which is dated 14 Jul 1789 in > Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon Co, NJ it states John's spouse as Elizabeth and > his children as: Jonathan, Robert, Mary, Lydia, Rachel and John (in that > sequence). It also states in the will: "that my son Robert shall be put > out to his Grandfather Robins to learn the Weavers Trade". John also names > a brother Jonathan in his will. > > I think it's more likely that John is the son of Jonathan Sr who was living > in Alexandria Twp when he died intestate in 1796, and brother of Jonathan > Jr who was living in Alexandria Twp when he died intestate in 1796. > > Apparently, from the wording in the will, John's father was still alive in > 1789. John's (presumably first) son was named Jonathan. Jonathan Sr, > Jonathan Jr, and John all lived in Alexandria Twp. Vincent lived in Amwell > Twp. Additionally, 3 spinning wheels, a loom & gears, and yarn (weaving > equipment and supplies) are named in the inventory of Jonathan Sr. > > Is there anything else to connect John to Jonathan Sr? > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2059 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-01-19 20:02:45 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] John Reed Robbins 1824-1911 Message: Great letter! You probably already have this but I did a little googling and found: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/170841529/john-reed-robbins http://www.geocities.ws/famhxlady/richard.html (this link shows John Reed ROBBINS as the son of William ROBBINS & Mary REED) https://www.google.com/search?q=%22John+Reed+Robbins%22+1824+1911+Texas&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjVt5KBxOXYAhVlF2MKHXYSAQUQ7AkISg&biw=1920&bih=900#imgrc=Mrw0pfjxGjTl3M: (it seems that all the documents for the thumbnails shown are on myheritage.com ... of which I'm not a member) > Posted by: july37@... turkeypt2 > Date: Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:04 am ((PST)) > > John German sent me a copy of this letter written by John Reed Robbins > after he found the YDNA of a John Reed Robbins descendant matched the > Daniel Robins descendants. I believe this line comes from the NC Robins. > Does anyone know? Any new information? John was searching for links in > 2012. > JOHN REED ROBBINS > Oldest son of Texas. > Native Born Texan > To the Galveston News, > Gonzales Texas, July 10, year ? > "I see in your valuable paper where they are trying to find the oldest > native-born Texan. I therefore take pleasure in addressing you these few > lines in order to give you some information of my life and how long I > have been here. I don't know as I'm the oldest, but feel certain I'll > tally up in being the next. My father came to Texas with Houston in 1822. > He settled on the Trinity River. There he put in the first ferry boat > ever built in the state of Texas. It now goes by the name of Robbins > Ferry. He lived there twelve months, then sold out to his brother Nat > Robbins, and moved to the Brazos.. Settled four miles north of St. > Philippi, on Mill Creek. There I was born, the 27th day of March, 1824. > The first public works they had in Texas - a water mill- was built by a > man by the name of Cummings. He received 15 leagues of land for erecting > it. My mother and a lady by the name of Mrs. McCoy were the first two > women that slept on the soil of Texas. I have lived under all flags; have > been in all campaigns gotten up in Texas, except 1830. The first gun that > was fired was fired 4 miles west of Gonzales, on the south side of the > river, the beginning of the Mexican War. The people of Gonzales have > erected a large granite stone, giving all dates. The oldest settlers had > a hard row to weed when they first came here. The closest market was Red > River. We had no post office. All mail came by hand. I drank my first > glass of buttermilk out of a terrapin shell. The first man baptized in > Texas was baptized by my uncle Isaac Reed, in 1830 in Nacogdoches County. > The first Methodist meeting in Texas was held in Austin County in 1834, > Rev. Bavett being the preacher. The first man that joined the church was > a man by then name of Rabb in 1834. Texas was a wild place, but God > Almighty, being powerful and victorious over all things, has made it a > grand and good place. The health of the community is generally good. > Crops are good." > "John R. Robbins" > > > I enjoyed reading this letter & hope the group will too. > Sara -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2060 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-01-19 20:33:59 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Thanks Garry. Part of the complication of researching the families in this area of Pennsylvania is the boundary disputes with Virginia and the fact that it truly was the "frontier." Here's a great table of all of the governments that Washington County Pennsylvania was under before and after its formation: Taken from: http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/Geog/PA/PA-WashingtonCo-formation.html Formation of Washington County, Pennsylvania Source: AniMap Plus: County Boundary Historical Atlas: with "SiteFinder," U.S. Place Name Database and U.S. Cemetery Database. (On CD.) Gold Bug Software, Alamo, CA. 1750 Cumberland Co. is formed from Lancaster Co. and unincorporated territory; encompasses the entire southwestern quarter of Pennsylvania 1771 Bedford Co. is formed from the western two-thirds of Cumberland Co. 1773 Westmoreland Co. is formed from western Bedford Co.; the state of Virginia forms the "West Augusta District" from northwestern Augusta Co., but it includes Westmoreland Co., PA 1776 Virginia creates Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos. in the West Augusta District 1779 Virginia verbally agrees to the change in her border, but nothing is carried out 1781 Washington Co. is formed from western Westmoreland Co., includes parts of Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos., VA; most of what would be the final Washington Co. , PA, was in Yohogania Co., VA; most of what would become Greene Co., PA, was in Monongalia and Ohio Cos., VA 1784-5 Boundary between Pennsylvania and Virginia is surveyed 1786 Virginia formally terminates its jurisdiction in SW Pennsylvania; Yohogania Co. ceases to exist 1788 Allegheny Co. is formed from part of northeastern Washington Co. 1796 Greene Co. is formed from southern Washington Co. 1800 Beaver Co. is formed from part of northwestern Washington Co. 1802 Washington Co. gains from Greene Co.; Washington Co. is now in its final form On 1/19/2018 11:36 AM, gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: I've researching for more information on Isaac Robbins without much success. - the 1781 Tax List for Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA, does not list Isaac or Sarah. The names Washburn, Vanaten, Devore, are there. Daniel Robins, David Sutton. - the 1783 Tax List has Enos McDonald with 100 acres of land, by 1788 he has 300 acres. - I've found no listings for James Sutton, who married Isaac's widow. Possibly, James was the minister, born about 1737, who spent some time in Washington County, PA. He later went to Shelby County, Kentucky, were Vincent Robbins and Asubia Robbins lived. Supposedly, James Sutton Jr. was born in Washington County, PA. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2061 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 08:30:49 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Tracey, Nottingham Township, Washington County, PA, was formed in 1781 as an original township, therefore the Tax Records I mentioned are truly for that township. Shelby County, Kentucky, was formed from Jefferson County in 1792. Do you have a date for the Orphanā€™s Court record you mentioned? Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:33 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Thanks Garry. Part of the complication of researching the families in this area of Pennsylvania is the boundary disputes with Virginia and the fact that it truly was the "frontier." Here's a great table of all of the governments that Washington County Pennsylvania was under before and after its formation: Taken from: http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/Geog/PA/PA-WashingtonCo-formation.html Formation of Washington County, Pennsylvania Source: AniMap Plus: County Boundary Historical Atlas: with "SiteFinder," U.S. Place Name Database and U.S. Cemetery Database. (On CD.) Gold Bug Software, Alamo, CA. 1750 Cumberland Co. is formed from Lancaster Co. and unincorporated territory; encompasses the entire southwestern quarter of Pennsylvania 1771 Bedford Co. is formed from the western two-thirds of Cumberland Co. 1773 Westmoreland Co. is formed from western Bedford Co.; the state of Virginia forms the "West Augusta District" from northwestern Augusta Co., but it includes Westmoreland Co., PA 1776 Virginia creates Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos. in the West Augusta District 1779 Virginia verbally agrees to the change in her border, but nothing is carried out 1781 Washington Co. is formed from western Westmoreland Co., includes parts of Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos., VA; most of what would be the final Washington Co. , PA, was in Yohogania Co., VA; most of what would become Greene Co., PA, was in Monongalia and Ohio Cos., VA 1784-5 Boundary between Pennsylvania and Virginia is surveyed 1786 Virginia formally terminates its jurisdiction in SW Pennsylvania; Yohogania Co. ceases to exist 1788 Allegheny Co. is formed from part of northeastern Washington Co. 1796 Greene Co. is formed from southern Washington Co. 1800 Beaver Co. is formed from part of northwestern Washington Co. 1802 Washington Co. gains from Greene Co.; Washington Co. is now in its final form On 1/19/2018 11:36 AM, gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: I've researching for more information on Isaac Robbins without much success. - the 1781 Tax List for Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA, does not list Isaac or Sarah. The names Washburn, Vanaten, Devore, are there. Daniel Robins, David Sutton. - the 1783 Tax List has Enos McDonald with 100 acres of land, by 1788 he has 300 acres. - I've found no listings for James Sutton, who married Isaac's widow. Possibly, James was the minister, born about 1737, who spent some time in Washington County, PA. He later went to Shelby County, Kentucky, were V incent Robbins and Asubia Robbins lived. Supposedly, James Sutton Jr. was born in Washington County, PA. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2062 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 10:14:49 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2063 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 10:33:49 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] Message: Tracey, Deed Records 1782 - 1785 by J. Richard Sutton, 1295 W. Dogwood Ct, Marion, IN 46952 Sarah Sutton, admin of Isaac Robbins to Eneas McDonald, land on Mingo Creek. Approximately 150 acres. June 7, 1782 Sarah Sutton of Mingo Creek Settlement, Washington County, Pennsylvania to Enos McDonald. 318 acres on Mingo Creek September 13, 1784. Thanks, Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 12:14 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] I wish I had better citations for the orphans court record! Ancestry.com has a book online titled Estate records, 1781-96, and deed records, 1782-85, in Washington County, Pennsylvania, 2nd ed And that's where I got the orphan info. Actually--I think I have a typo in my original post! The minor children are Isaac, William, and JAMES -- not John. (Sorry about that!) The thing is in the book...there are NO specific citations for WHERE the records came from. Here's the link if you have an Ancestry subscription: http://interactive.ancestry.com/24808/dvm_LocHist010031b-00033-0/9?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dGenealogy-glh33372743%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_db%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsln%3dRo bbins%26gsln_x%3d0%26MSAV%3d1%26uidh%3dfdi&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&rc=184,3675,517,3733;186,3755,517,3815;90,3840,519,3901 In case you don't have a subscription, I'll try to post the title page, description page--which tells in general where the records came from--and the page with Robins on them. The other Robins on that page are: * Ann * Job; 2 minor children of Job: James (who was bound out) and John. We should probably start a new thread to talk about them. We've talked about them in this forum before, I think. They lived in Cecil twp. Washington County PA (about 15 miles from Nottingham twp.) and are in several Yohogania Co, VA records. Tracey On 1/20/2018 9:30 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@...t [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, Nottingham Township, Washington County, PA, was formed in 1781 as an original township, therefore the Tax Records I mentioned are truly for that township. Shelby County, Kentucky, was formed from Jefferson County in 1792. Do you have a date for the Orphanā€™s Court record you mentioned? Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:33 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Thanks Garry. Part of the complication of researching the families in this area of Pennsylvania is the boundary disputes with Virginia and the fact that it truly was the "frontier." Here's a great table of all of the governments that Washington County Pennsylvania was under before and after its formation: Taken from: http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/Geog/PA/PA-WashingtonCo-formation.html Formation of Washington County, Pennsylvania Source: AniMap Plus: County Boundary Historical Atlas: with "SiteFinder," U.S. Place Name Database and U.S. Cemetery Database. (On CD.) Gold Bug Software, Alamo, CA. 1750 Cumberland Co. is formed from Lancaster Co. and unincorporated territory; encompasses the entire southwestern quarter of Pennsylvania 1771 Bedford Co. is formed from the western two-thirds of Cumberland Co. 1773 Westmoreland Co. is formed from western Bedford Co.; the state of Virginia forms the "West Augusta District" from northwestern Augusta Co., but it includes Westmoreland Co., PA 1776 Virginia creates Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos. in the West Augusta District 1779 Virginia verbally agrees to the change in her border, but nothing is carried out 1781 Washington Co. is formed from western Westmoreland Co., includes parts of Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos., VA; most of what would be the final Washington Co. , PA, was in Yohogania Co., VA; most of what would become Greene Co., PA, was in Monongalia and Ohio Cos., VA 1784-5 Boundary between Pennsylvania and Virginia is surveyed 1786 Virginia formally terminates its jurisdiction in SW Pennsylvania; Yohogania Co. ceases to exist 1788 Allegheny Co. is formed from part of northeastern Washington Co. 1796 Greene Co. is formed from southern Washington Co. 1800 Beaver Co. is formed from part of northwestern Washington Co. 1802 Washington Co. gains from Greene Co.; Washington Co. is now in its final form On 1/19/2018 11:36 AM, gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: I've researching for more information on Isaac Robbins without much success. - the 1781 Tax List for Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA, does not list Isaac or Sarah. The names Washburn, Vanaten, Devore, are there. Daniel Robins, David Sutton. - the 1783 Tax List has Enos McDonald with 100 acres of land, by 1788 he has 300 acres. - I've found no listings for James Sutton, who married Isaac's widow. Possibly, James was the minister, born about 1737, who spent some time in Washington County, PA. He later went to Shelby County, Kentucky, were Vincent Robbins and Asubia Robbins lived. Supposedly, James Sutton Jr. was born in Washington County, PA. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2064 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 10:42:46 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS, d 1789 Alexandria Twp Message: Marshall, This is a theory or best guessed. Jonathan Robins b. ca 1722, d. 1796 was the son of Jonathan Robins b. 1694 Woodbridge, d. 1774 Hunterdon Co. & his first wife (Name Unknown). In theory Jonathan 1694 -1774 & first wife had at least three children. 1. Jonathan b. ca 1722, d. 1796 who had two sons by wife( Name Unknown), Jonathan 1748-1796, wife ? & John 1751-1789, wife Elizabeth Green. 2. Deborah b. ca 1724 d. ? wife of Nathaniel Pettit. 3. William b. ca 1728, d. 1811 wife Mary. Jonathan 1694-1774 married second wife Dinah & had several children. One was named Jonathan b. 1742, d. 1816. I question why there would be another Jonathan Robins by second wife Dinah when there was already a living son Jonathan by first wife? You have done a lot of research on Jonathan & Dinah Robins family. Does any of this make any sense to you? Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 7:49 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS, d 1789 Alexandria Twp Thanks, Sara. Have the parents of Jonathan ROBINS Sr (d 1796) been determined (or at least best-guessed at) ? > Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 > Date: Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:47 pm ((PST)) > > Marshall, > > Kitchen of Hunterdon County written Oct. 29, 1757, proved Apr. 18, 1764. The > Will names daughter Ann, wife of Vincent Robins & their children, Sarah, > Obadiah, John & William. > > The John Robins with the Will dated 14 Jul 1789 is the son of Jonathan > Robins, Sr. You may recall this was discussed around 2004 by the previous > group when Gary Robins & Judy Arthur were researching their line from > Robert Robins. > > Sara > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 5:13 PM > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS, d 1789 Alexandria Twp > > Perhaps this has been discussed here before and I missed it or am > forgetting. > > Another researcher has assigned John ROBINS (d 1789) as a son of Vincent > ROBINS (c1720-1760). I do not know the premise for this association. > > In looking over the will of John ROBINS which is dated 14 Jul 1789 in > Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon Co, NJ it states John's spouse as Elizabeth and > his children as: Jonathan, Robert, Mary, Lydia, Rachel and John (in that > sequence). It also states in the will: "that my son Robert shall be put > out to his Grandfather Robins to learn the Weavers Trade". John also names > a brother Jonathan in his will. > > I think it's more likely that John is the son of Jonathan Sr who was living > in Alexandria Twp when he died intestate in 1796, and brother of Jonathan > Jr who was living in Alexandria Twp when he died intestate in 1796. > > Apparently, from the wording in the will, John's father was still alive in > 1789. John's (presumably first) son was named Jonathan. Jonathan Sr, > Jonathan Jr, and John all lived in Alexandria Twp. Vincent lived in Amwell > Twp. Additionally, 3 spinning wheels, a loom & gears, and yarn (weaving > equipment and supplies) are named in the inventory of Jonathan Sr. > > Is there anything else to connect John to Jonathan Sr? > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2065 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 10:50:55 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio Message: Tracey, Do you have a birthdate, approximate birthdate or educated guess for Vincent Robins, Sr. & Vincent Robins, Jr. named in the 1847 Ohio Deed you discovered? Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 10:02 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio I made a pretty big discovery about Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio. I wanted to share it with everyone--especially Cris who first told us about this Vincent almost exactly one year ago! FamilySearch.org has digitized many deeds for Washington County Pennsylvania. And in looking at those deeds today, I found a deed between Vincent Robins Sr. and Vincent Robins Jr. both of Brown County Ohio. (Washington Co. PA Deed v. 55, 3E 1846-1848, page 600, 11 Nov 1847) The deed says the Pennsylvania property that Vincent Sr. is conveying to Vincent Jr. "has descended to" Vincent Sr. as "heir of Isaac Robbins." Exciting!! Now...I believe this Isaac Robbins is the one who died between 1781 and 1782, without a will, in the Mingo Creek area of Nottingham twp. Washington Co. PA. Isaac left a widow, Sarah, who by 1782 had married James Sutton. Isaac and Sarah also had at least 3 minor children in 1783: Isaac, William and John--who it appears are named in an orphan's court record. The orphan's court records are also digitized. However, to view them, you have to go to an LDS Family History Center and use their computers. (I've included a transcription of this deed at the bottom of this post. You can also see the copy I transcribed at: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNL-HGYH?i=322&cat=225855 ) I also found a deed in which Sarah Sutton (relict of Isaac Robbins) is selling property that belonged to Isaac Robbins. (Washington Co. PA Deeds v. 1. 1A 1781-1784, page 20, 4 July 1782) (See this deed at:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSXB-PQZ1-Q?i=17&cat=225855 ) The property is described as being 150 acres bounded by Mingo Creek and bounded by the lands of the following people: Jeremiah Washb urn Peter Devore James Vannaten and "the remainder of the tract along a run commonly call'd and known by the name Robbins's Spring Run being the Northwestern part of the tract..." The men listed here are also important. Researchers of Sussex Co. Robbins families will likely recognize the surnames. The Jeremiah Washburn here was either the father or brother of George Washburn who was married to an Azubia Robbins b. about 1768. Cris suspected this Azubia was a sister to the Vincent of Brown Co. Ohio. I think that is likely too! Jeremiah's wife was Rebecca Devore. So it is interesting there is also a Devore in the list. James Vannaten is likely from the Van Etten families who were numerous in Sussex. Interestingly, in later years (early 1800s) ALL of these families end up in Brown Co. Ohio. I'd also like to make a pitch he re about how important deeds are to our research. As you can see from the Vincent deed...it was in the Washington Co. PA records because that is where the property was located. However Vincent hadn't lived in Pennsylvania for close to 50 years at the time the deed was written!! Gems are out there. But you have to be willing to do the digging for them! FamilySearch has MANY land records digitized online but they are NOT digitally indexed. You have to find the digital copies of the microfilm indexes and then use them to navigate the digitized deed books. The best way to find land records on FamilySearch is: 1. Click Search at the top of the page. 2. Click Catalog. 3. In the Place field, type the county and state where you are looking for land records. For example, United States, Pennsylvania, Washington 4. Select that location and click Search. 5. Scroll through the results and locate an entr y that says "Land and Property" 6. Expand the entry. 7. Look for something that has recorder of deeds a government entity as the author. For Washington Co. PA the entry is "Deed books, 1781-1886; deed index, 1781-1924" 8. Look for indexes. If the entry has a little camera icon next to it, you can view them from your computer. If the entry has a little camera with a key over it, it means you must find an LDS Family History Center in your area and view it there. If it has a little film reel, it means it is not digitized and is only on microfilm. 9. Start searching! OK. Speech over. Now we can all try to figure out who this Isaac is the son of, right? :-) And...were Vincent and Azubia his children? Or his siblings?? One way or another, Vincent Sr. in the deed was Isaac's heir... Lots to think about and debate! But at least we have more clues! < p>Here is a transcription of the Vincent Robbins Sr. to Vincent Robbins Jr. deed of 1847: Know all men by these presents that I Vincent Robins Sr. of the County of Brown and State of Ohio of the first part for and in consideration of the sum of one hundred dollars to me in hand paid and the natural love and affection which I entertain for my son Vincent Robbins Jr. of said County and State of the second part do hereby grant sell and convey release en? and confirm until the said Vincent Robbins Jr. and to his heirs and assigns forever. All the real estate which I own or may claim title to in the State of Pennsylvania of every name and description and more particularly a tract of land containing three hundred and seventy seven acres in said State of Pennsylvania in the Township of Nottingham Washington County adjoining lands of the heirs of F. Hull, Jacob Figley, John Wallace, James Chambers, and others and more fully described in a deed dated November 16th 1795 and recorded in Book M Volume 1 page 151 & 152 the 16th day of May 1796 in favor of Isaac Robbins from whom said land has descended to me as heir of said Isaac Robbins with all and singular the appurtenances. To Have and to Hold all of the said real estate with all the appurtenances to him the said Vincent Robbins Jr. his heirs and assigns forever. In Witness Whereof I do hereto set my hand and seal this third day of June AD 1847. Signed sealed & delivered in presence of us. Tory Coon, John Stratton, G. Anderson. State of Ohio Brown County Before the undersigned one of the Justices of the peace within said County of Brown personally came Vincent Robbins Sr. the above grantor and acknowledged the above conveyance to be his free and voluntary act and deed for the uses and purposes in the same expressed and we certify that from personal knowledge we are satisfied that the said Grantor is the identical person he represents himself to be. In Witness Whereof we do hereto set our hands and seals this 3rd day of June 1847. Garlen Anderson Justice of the Peace The State of Ohio Brown County I John H Blair Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County do hereby certify that Garlen Anderson who took the foregoing acknowledgement was at the date thereof an acting Justice of the Peace in and for Brown County duly commissioned and qualified as such that said acknowledgement by him taken is in due form of law and that full faith and credit are due to all his official acts as such Justice. In Testimony Whereof I have hereto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said Court at Georgton this 23d day of August AD 1847 James H Blair Clerk Recorded and compared with original November 11 AD 1847 James Brown Recorder ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2066 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 11:23:34 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] Message: Tracey, In the Estate Records, what does ā€œbd 82ā€ and ā€œminor ch 83ā€ mean? Iā€™m guessing the numbers refer to the year of the record, which would mean son Vincent was not a minor in 1783, which means he was born by 1762. From the 1783 Tax List for Nottingham, Washington County, PA: Sarah Sotton/Sutton 200 acres Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 12:14 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] I wish I had better citations for the orphans court record! Ancestry.com has a book online titled Estate records, 1781-96, and deed records, 1782-85, in Washington County, Pennsylvania, 2nd ed And that's where I got the orphan info. Actually--I think I have a typo in my original post! The minor children are Isaac, William, and JAMES -- not John. (Sorry about that!) The thing is in the book...there are NO specific citations for WHERE the records came from. Here's the link if you have an Ancestry subscription: http://interactive.ancestry.com/24808/dvm_LocHist010031b-00033-0/9?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dGenealogy-glh33372743%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_db%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsln%3dRo bbins%26gsln_x%3d0%26MSAV%3d1%26uidh%3dfdi&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&rc=184,3675,517,3733;186,3755,517,3815;90,3840,519,3901 In case you don't have a subscription, I'll try to post the title page, description page--which tells in general where the records came from--and the page with Robins on them. The other Robins on that page are: * Ann * Job; 2 minor children of Job: James (who was bound out) and John. We should probably start a new thread to talk about them. We've talked about them in this forum before, I think. They lived in Cecil twp. Washington County PA (about 15 miles from Nottingham twp.) and are in several Yohogania Co, VA records. Tracey On 1/20/2018 9:30 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, Nottingham Township, Washington County, PA, was formed in 1781 as an original township, therefore the Tax Records I mentioned are truly for that township. Shelby County, Kentucky, was formed from Jefferson County in 1792. Do you have a date for the Orphanā€™s Court record you mentioned? Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:33 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Thanks Garry. Part of the complication of researching the families in this area of Pennsylvania is the boundary disputes with Virginia and the fact that it truly was the "frontier." Here's a great table of all of the governments that Washington County Pennsylvania was under before and after its formation: Taken from: http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/Geog/PA/PA-WashingtonCo-formation.html Formation of Washington County, Pennsylvania Source: AniMap Plus: County Boundary Historical Atlas: with "SiteFinder," U.S. Place Name Database and U.S. Cemetery Database. (On CD.) Gold Bug Software, Alamo, CA. 1750 Cumberland Co. is formed from Lancaster Co. and unincorporated territory; encompasses the entire southwestern quarter of Pennsylvania 1771 Bedford Co. is formed from the western two-thirds of Cumberland Co. 1773 Westmoreland Co. is formed from western Bedford Co.; the state of Virginia forms the "West Augusta District" from northwestern Augusta Co., but it includes Westmoreland Co., PA 1776 Virginia creates Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos. in the West Augusta District 1779 Virginia verbally agrees to the change in her border, but nothing is carried out 1781 Washington Co. is formed from western Westmoreland Co., includes parts of Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos., VA; most of what would be the final Washington Co. , PA, was in Yohogania Co., VA; most of what would become Greene Co., PA, was in Monongalia and Ohio Cos., VA 1784-5 Boundary between Pennsylvania and Virginia is surveyed 1786 Virginia formally terminates its jurisdiction in SW Pennsylvania; Yohogania Co. ceases to exist 1788 Allegheny Co. is formed from part of northeastern Washington Co. 1796 Greene Co. is formed from southern Washington Co. 1800 Beaver Co. is formed from part of northwestern Washington Co. 1802 Washington Co. gains from Greene Co.; Washington Co. is now in its final form On 1/19/2018 11:36 AM, gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: I've researching for more information on Isaac Robbins without much success. - the 1781 Tax List for Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA, does not list Isaac or Sarah. The names Washburn, Vanaten, Devore, are there. Daniel Robins, David Sutton. - the 1783 Tax List has Enos McDonald with 100 acres of land, by 1788 he has 300 acres. - I've found no listings for James Sutton, who married Isaac's widow. Possibly, James was the minister, born about 1737, who spent some time in Washington County, PA. He later went to Shelby County, Kentucky, were Vincent Robbins and Asubia Robbins lived. Supposedly, James Sutton Jr. was born in Washington County, PA. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2067 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 11:30:10 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] Message: Tracey, Vincent Robbins married Charity Ryker 22 Dec, 1787 in Jefferson (Shelby) County, Kentucky. Charity had a sister, Rachel, who married William Robbins 31 Dec, 1793 in Shelby County, Kentucky. William died in 1795 in Indiana. William may be the brother of Vincent. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 12:14 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] I wish I had better citations for the orphans court record! Ancestry.com has a book online titled Estate records, 1781-96, and deed records, 1782-85, in Washington County, Pennsylvania, 2nd ed And that's where I got the orphan info. Actually--I think I have a typo in my original post! The minor children are Isaac, William, and JAMES -- not John. (Sorry about that!) The thing is in the book...there are NO specific citations for WHERE the records came from. Here's the link if you have an Ancestry subscription: http://interactive.ancestry.com/24808/dvm_LocHist010031b-00033-0/9?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dGenealogy-glh33372743%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_db%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsln%3dRo bbins%26gsln_x%3d0%26MSAV%3d1%26uidh%3dfdi&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&rc=184,3675,517,3733;186,3755,517,3815;90,3840,519,3901 In case you don't have a subscription, I'll try to post the title page, description page--which tells in general where the records came from--and the page with Robins on them. The other Robins on that page are: * Ann * Job; 2 minor children of Job: James (who was bound out) and John. We should probably start a new thread to talk about them. We've talked about them in this forum before, I think. They lived in Cecil twp. Washington County PA (about 15 miles from Nottingham twp.) and are in several Yohogania Co, VA records. Tracey On 1/20/2018 9:30 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, Nottingham Township, Washington County, PA, was formed in 1781 as an original township, therefore the Tax Records I mentioned are truly for that township. Shelby County, Kentucky, was formed from Jefferson County in 1792. Do you have a date for the Orphanā€™s Court record you mentioned? Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:33 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Thanks Garry. Part of the complication of researching the families in this area of Pennsylvania is the boundary disputes with Virginia and the fact that it truly was the "frontier." Here's a great table of all of the governments that Washington County Pennsylvania was under before and after its formation: Taken from: http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/Geog/PA/PA-WashingtonCo-formation.html Formation of Washington County, Pennsylvania Source: AniMap Plus: County Boundary Historical Atlas: with "SiteFinder," U.S. Place Name Database and U.S. Cemetery Database. (On CD.) Gold Bug Software, Alamo, CA. 1750 Cumberland Co. is formed from Lancaster Co. and unincorporated territory; encompasses the entire southwestern quarter of Pennsylvania 1771 Bedford Co. is formed from the western two-thirds of Cumberland Co. 1773 Westmoreland Co. is formed from western Bedford Co.; the state of Virginia forms the "West Augusta District" from northwestern Augusta Co., but it includes Westmoreland Co., PA 1776 Virginia creates Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos. in the West Augusta District 1779 Virginia verbally agrees to the change in her border, but nothing is carried out 1781 Washington Co. is formed from western Westmoreland Co., includes parts of Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos., VA; most of what would be the final Washington Co. , PA, was in Yohogania Co., VA; most of what would become Greene Co., PA, was in Monongalia and Ohio Cos., VA 1784-5 Boundary between Pennsylvania and Virginia is surveyed 1786 Virginia formally terminates its jurisdiction in SW Pennsylvania; Yohogania Co. ceases to exist 1788 Allegheny Co. is formed from part of northeastern Washington Co. 1796 Greene Co. is formed from southern Washington Co. 1800 Beaver Co. is formed from part of northwestern Washington Co. 1802 Washington Co. gains from Greene Co.; Washington Co. is now in its final form On 1/19/2018 11:36 AM, gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: I've researching for more information on Isaac Robbins without much success. - the 1781 Tax List for Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA, does not list Isaac or Sarah. The names Washburn, Vanaten, Devore, are there. Daniel Robins, David Sutton. - the 1783 Tax List has Enos McDonald with 100 acres of land, by 1788 he has 300 acres. - I've found no listings for James Sutton, who married Isaac's widow. Possibly, James was the minister, born about 1737, who spent some time in Washington County, PA. He later went to Shelby County, Kentucky, were Vincent Robbins and Asubia Robbins lived. Supposedly, James Sutton Jr. was born in Washington County, PA. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2068 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 11:47:03 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Hi, That is NOT the Vincent who was in PA and Ohio. Tracey On 1/20/2018 12:30 PM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, Vincent Robbins married Charity Ryker 22 Dec, 1787 in Jefferson (Shelby) County, Kentucky. Charity had a sister, Rachel, who married William Robbins 31 Dec, 1793 in Shelby County, Kentucky. William died in 1795 in Indiana. William may be the brother of Vincent. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 12:14 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] I wish I had better citations for the orphans court record! Ancestry.com has a book online titled Estate records, 1781-96, and deed records, 1782-85, in Washington County, Pennsylvania, 2nd ed And that's where I got the orphan info. Actually--I think I have a typo in my original post! The minor children are Isaac, William, and JAMES -- not John. (Sorry about that!) The thing is in the book...there are NO specific citations for WHERE the records came from. Here's the link if you have an Ancestry subscription: http://interactive.ancestry.com/24808/dvm_LocHist010031b-00033-0/9?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dGenealogy-glh33372743%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_db%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26 gsln%3dRobbins%26gsln_x%3d0%26MSAV%3d1%26uidh%3dfdi&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&rc=184,3675,517,3733;186,3755,517,3815;90,3840,519,3901 In case you don't have a subscription, I'll try to post the title page, description page--which tells in general where the records came from--and the page with Robins on them. The other Robins on that page are: * Ann * Job; 2 minor children of Job: James (who was bound out) and John. We should probably start a new thread to talk about them. We've talked about them in this forum before, I think. They lived in Cecil twp. Washington County PA (about 15 miles from Nottingham twp.) and are in several Yohogania Co, VA records. Tracey On 1/20/2018 9:30 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, Nottingham Township, Washington County, PA, was formed in 1781 as an original township, therefore the Tax Records I mentioned are truly for that township. Shelby County, Kentucky, was formed from Jefferson County in 1792. Do you have a date for the Orphanā€™s Court record you mentioned? Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:33 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Thanks Garry. Part of the complication of researching the families in this area of Pennsylvania is the boundary disputes with Virginia and the fact that it truly was the "frontier." Here's a great table of all of the governments that Washington County Pennsylvania was under before and after its formation: Taken from: http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/Geog/PA/PA-WashingtonCo-formation.html Formation of Washington County, Pennsylvania Source: AniMap Plus: County Boundary Historical Atlas: with "SiteFinder," U.S. Place Name Database and U.S. Cemetery Database. (On CD.) Gold Bug Software, Alamo, CA. 1750 Cumberland Co. is formed from Lancaster Co. and unincorporated territory; encompasses the entire southwestern quarter of Pennsylvania 1771 Bedford Co. is formed from the western two-thirds of Cumberland Co. 1773 Westmoreland Co. is formed from western Bedford Co.; the state of Virginia forms the "West Augusta District" from northwestern Augusta Co., but it includes Westmoreland Co., PA 1776 Virginia creates Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos. in the West Augusta District 1779 Virginia verbally agrees to the change in her border, but nothing is carried out 1781 Washington Co. is formed from western Westmoreland Co., includes parts of Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos., VA; most of what would be the final Washington Co. , PA, was in Yohogania Co., VA; most of what would become Greene Co., PA, was in Monongalia and Ohio Cos., VA 1784-5 Boundary between Pennsylvania and Virginia is surveyed 1786 Virginia formally terminates its jurisdiction in SW Pennsylvania; Yohogania Co. ceases to exist 1788 Allegheny Co. is formed from part of northeastern Washington Co. 1796 Greene Co. is formed from southern Washington Co. 1800 Beaver Co. is formed from part of northwestern Washington Co. 1802 Washington Co. gains from Greene Co.; Washington Co. is now in its final form On 1/19/2018 11:36 AM, gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: I've researching for more information on Isaac Robbins without much success. - the 1781 Tax List for Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA, does not list Isaac or Sarah. The names Washburn, Vanaten, Devore, are there. Daniel Robins, David Sutton. - the 1783 Tax List has Enos McDonald with 100 acres of land, by 1788 he has 300 acres. - I've found no listings for James Sutton, who married Isaac's widow. Possibly, James was the minister, born about 1737, who spent some time in Washington County, PA. He later went to Shelby County, Kentucky, were Vincent Robbins and Asubia Robbins lived. Supposedly, James Sutton Jr. was born in Washington County, PA. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2069 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 11:48:24 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Hi, The definitions are the on the first page of that book. Did the PDF I attached come through? bd is Bond 82 is 1782 minor ch means minor children 83 is 1783 Tracey On 1/20/2018 12:23 PM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, In the Estate Records, what does ā€œbd 82ā€ and ā€œminor ch 83ā€ mean? Iā€™m guessing the numbers refer to the year of the record, which would mean son Vincent was not a minor in 1783, which means he was born by 1762. From the 1783 Tax List for Nottingham, Washington County, PA: Sarah Sotton/Sutton 200 acres Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 12:14 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] I wish I had better citations for the orphans court record! Ancestry.com has a book online titled Estate records, 1781-96, and deed records, 1782-85, in Washington County, Pennsylvania, 2nd ed And that's where I got the orphan info. Actually--I think I have a typo in my original post! The minor children are Isaac, William, and JAMES -- not John. (Sorry about that!) The thing is in the book...there are NO specific citations for WHERE the records came from. Here's the link if you have an Ancestry subscription: http://interactive.ancestry.com/24808/dvm_LocHist010031b-00033-0/9?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dGenealogy-glh33372743%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_db%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26 gsln%3dRobbins%26gsln_x%3d0%26MSAV%3d1%26uidh%3dfdi&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&rc=184,3675,517,3733;186,3755,517,3815;90,3840,519,3901 In case you don't have a subscription, I'll try to post the title page, description page--which tells in general where the records came from--and the page with Robins on them. The other Robins on that page are: * Ann * Job; 2 minor children of Job: James (who was bound out) and John. We should probably start a new thread to talk about them. We've talked about them in this forum before, I think. They lived in Cecil twp. Washington County PA (about 15 miles from Nottingham twp.) and are in several Yohogania Co, VA records. Tracey On 1/20/2018 9:30 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, Nottingham Township, Washington County, PA, was formed in 1781 as an original township, therefore the Tax Records I mentioned are truly for that township. Shelby County, Kentucky, was formed from Jefferson County in 1792. Do you have a date for the Orphanā€™s Court record you mentioned? Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:33 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Thanks Garry. Part of the complication of researching the families in this area of Pennsylvania is the boundary disputes with Virginia and the fact that it truly was the "frontier." Here's a great table of all of the governments that Washington County Pennsylvania was under before and after its formation: Taken from: http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/Geog/PA/PA-WashingtonCo-formation.html Formation of Washington County, Pennsylvania Source: AniMap Plus: County Boundary Historical Atlas: with "SiteFinder," U.S. Place Name Database and U.S. Cemetery Database. (On CD.) Gold Bug Software, Alamo, CA. 1750 Cumberland Co. is formed from Lancaster Co. and unincorporated territory; encompasses the entire southwestern quarter of Pennsylvania 1771 Bedford Co. is formed from the western two-thirds of Cumberland Co. 1773 Westmoreland Co. is formed from western Bedford Co.; the state of Virginia forms the "West Augusta District" from northwestern Augusta Co., but it includes Westmoreland Co., PA 1776 Virginia creates Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos. in the West Augusta District 1779 Virginia verbally agrees to the change in her border, but nothing is carried out 1781 Washington Co. is formed from western Westmoreland Co., includes parts of Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos., VA; most of what would be the final Washington Co. , PA, was in Yohogania Co., VA; most of what would become Greene Co., PA, was in Monongalia and Ohio Cos., VA 1784-5 Boundary between Pennsylvania and Virginia is surveyed 1786 Virginia formally terminates its jurisdiction in SW Pennsylvania; Yohogania Co. ceases to exist 1788 Allegheny Co. is formed from part of northeastern Washington Co. 1796 Greene Co. is formed from southern Washington Co. 1800 Beaver Co. is formed from part of northwestern Washington Co. 1802 Washington Co. gains from Greene Co.; Washington Co. is now in its final form On 1/19/2018 11:36 AM, gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: I've researching for more information on Isaac Robbins without much success. - the 1781 Tax List for Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA, does not list Isaac or Sarah. The names Washburn, Vanaten, Devore, are there. Daniel Robins, David Sutton. - the 1783 Tax List has Enos McDonald with 100 acres of land, by 1788 he has 300 acres. - I've found no listings for James Sutton, who married Isaac's widow. Possibly, James was the minister, born about 1737, who spent some time in Washington County, PA. He later went to Shelby County, Kentucky, were Vincent Robbins and Asubia Robbins lived. Supposedly, James Sutton Jr. was born in Washington County, PA. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2070 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 11:49:58 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] John Reed Robbins 1824-1911 Message: Marshall, Thank you. Interesting links. The geocities link with Robbins genealogy going back to Ian Robbins of Swansea, Wales is misleading. Y-DNA proved the connection to Ian Robbins of Wales to be incorrect. The genealogy listed beyond William & Mary "Polly Reed Robbins with son John Reed Robbins as far as I know is undocumented. I not sure that John R's father William Robins came from NC to TX. I liked John Reed Robbins' Texas story especially where he said he drank his first butter milk out of a terrapin shell. I suspect he was a man with a very good sense of humor too. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 8:03 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] John Reed Robbins 1824-1911 Great letter! You probably already have this but I did a little googling and found: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/170841529/john-reed-robbins http://www.geocities.ws/famhxlady/richard.html (this link shows John Reed ROBBINS as the son of William ROBBINS & Mary REED) https://www.google.com/search?q=%22John+Reed+Robbins%22+1824+1911+Texas&tbm= isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjVt5KBxOXYAhVlF2MKHXYSAQUQ7AkISg&biw= 1920&bih=900#imgrc=Mrw0pfjxGjTl3M: (it seems that all the documents for the thumbnails shown are on myheritage.com ... of which I'm not a member) > Posted by: july37@... turkeypt2 > Date: Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:04 am ((PST)) > > John German sent me a copy of this letter written by John Reed Robbins > after he found the YDNA of a John Reed Robbins descendant matched the > Daniel Robins descendants. I believe this line comes from the NC Robins. > Does anyone know? Any new information? John was searching for links in > 2012. > JOHN REED ROBBINS > Oldest son of Texas. > Native Born Texan > To the Galveston News, > Gonzales Texas, July 10, year ? > "I see in your valuable paper where they are trying to find the oldest > native-born Texan. I therefore take pleasure in addressing you these few > lines in order to give you some information of my life and how long I > have been here. I don't know as I'm the oldest, but feel certain I'll > tally up in being the next. My father came to Texas with Houston in 1822. > He settled on the Trinity River. There he put in the first ferry boat > ever built in the state of Texas. It now goes by the name of Robbins > Ferry. He lived there twelve months, then sold out to his brother Nat > Robbins, and moved to the Brazos.. Settled four miles north of St. > Philippi, on Mill Creek. There I was born, the 27th day of March, 1824. > The first public works they had in Texas - a water mill- was built by a > man by the name of Cummings. He received 15 leagues of land for erecting > it. My mother and a lady by the name of Mrs. McCoy were the first two > women that slept on the soil of Texas. I have lived under all flags; have > been in all campaigns gotten up in Texas, except 1830. The first gun that > was fired was fired 4 miles west of Gonzales, on the south side of the > river, the beginning of the Mexican War. The people of Gonzales have > erected a large granite stone, giving all dates. The oldest settlers had > a hard row to weed when they first came here. The closest market was Red > River. We had no post office. All mail came by hand. I drank my first > glass of buttermilk out of a terrapin shell. The first man baptized in > Texas was baptized by my uncle Isaac Reed, in 1830 in Nacogdoches County. > The first Methodist meeting in Texas was held in Austin County in 1834, > Rev. Bavett being the preacher. The first man that joined the church was > a man by then name of Rabb in 1834. Texas was a wild place, but God > Almighty, being powerful and victorious over all things, has made it a > grand and good place. The health of the community is generally good. > Crops are good." > "John R. Robbins" > > > I enjoyed reading this letter & hope the group will too. > Sara -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2071 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 12:11:54 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Tracey, As usual, this is confusing. Supposedly, Vincent had a sister named Asubia who married George Washburn son of Jeremiah Washburn who lived in Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA. Asubia may have been married in Shelby County, KY. George is liste d there in 1795. George and Asubia moved to Brown County, OH, about 1799. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 1:47 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Hi, That is NOT the Vincent who was in PA and Ohio. Tracey On 1/20/2018 12:30 PM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, Vincent Robbins married Charity Ryker 22 Dec, 1787 in Jefferson (Shelby) County, Kentucky. Charity had a sister, Rachel, who married William Robbins 31 Dec, 1793 in Shelby County, Kentucky. William died in 1795 in Indiana. William may be the brother of Vincent. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 12:14 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] I wish I had better citations for the orphans court record! Ancestry.com has a book online titled Estate records, 1781-96, and deed records, 1782-85, in Washington County, Pennsylvania, 2nd ed And that's where I got the orphan info. Actually--I think I have a typo in my original post! The minor children are Isaac, William, and JAMES -- not John. (Sorry about that!) The thing is in the book...there are NO specific citations for WHERE the records came from. Here's the link if you have an Ancestry subscription: http://interactive.ancestry.com/24808/dvm_LocHist010031b-00033-0/9?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dGenealogy-glh33372743%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_db%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsln%3d Robbins%26gsln_x%3d0%26MSAV%3d1%26uidh%3dfdi&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&rc=184,3675,517,3733;186,3755,517,3815;90,3840,519,3901 In case you don't have a subscription, I'll try to post the title page, description page--which tells in general where the records came from--and the page with Robins on them. The other Robins on that page are: * Ann * Job; 2 minor children of Job: James (who was bound out) and John. We should probably start a new thread to talk about them. We've talked about them in this forum before, I think. They lived in Cecil twp. Washington County PA (about 15 miles from Nottingham twp.) and are in several Yohogania Co, VA records. Tracey On 1/20/2018 9:30 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, Nottingham Township, Washington County, PA, was formed in 1781 as an original township, therefore the Tax Records I mentioned are truly for that township. Shelby County, Kentucky, was formed from Jefferson County in 1792. Do you have a date for the Orphanā€™s Court record you mentioned? Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:33 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Thanks Garry. Part of the complication of researching the families in this area of Pennsylvania is the boundary disputes with Virginia and the fact that it truly was the "frontier." Here's a great table of all of the governments that Washington County Pennsylvania was under before and after its formation: Taken from: http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/Geog/PA/PA-WashingtonCo-formation.html Formation of Washington County, Pennsylvania Source: AniMap Plus: County Boundary Historical Atlas: with "SiteFinder," U.S. Place Name Database and U.S. Cemetery Database. (On CD.) Gold Bug Software, Alamo, CA. 1750 Cumberland Co. is formed from Lancaster Co. and unincorporated territory; encompasses the entire southwestern quarter of Pennsylvania 1771 Bedford Co. is formed from the western two-thirds of Cumberland Co. 1773 Westmoreland Co. is formed from western Bedford Co.; the state of Virginia forms the "West Augusta District" from northwestern Augusta Co., but it includes Westmoreland Co., PA 1776 Virginia creates Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos. in the West Augusta District 1779 Virginia verbally agrees to the change in her border, but nothing is carried out 1781 Washington Co. is formed from western Westmoreland Co., includes parts of Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos., VA; most of what would be the final Washington Co. , PA, was in Yohogania Co., VA; mos t of what would become Greene Co., PA, was in Monongalia and Ohio Cos., VA 1784-5 Boundary between Pennsylvania and Virginia is surveyed 1786 Virginia formally terminates its jurisdiction in SW Pennsylvania; Yohogania Co. ceases to exist 1788 Allegheny Co. is formed from part of northeastern Washington Co. 1796 Greene Co. is formed from southern Washington Co. 1800 Beaver Co. is formed from part of northwestern Washington Co. 1802 Washington Co. gains from Greene Co.; Washington Co. is now in its final form On 1/19/2018 11:36 AM, gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: I've researching for more information on Isaac Robbins without much success. - the 1781 Tax List for Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA, does not list Isaac or Sarah. The names Washburn, Vanaten, Devore, are there. Daniel Robins, David Sutton. - the 1783 Tax List has Enos McDonald with 100 acres of land, by 1788 he has 300 acres. - I've found no listings for James Sutton, who married Isaac's widow. Possibly, James was the minister, born about 1737, who spent some time in Washington County, PA. He later went to Shelby County, Kentucky, we re Vincent Robbins and Asubia Robbins lived. Supposedly, James Sutton Jr. was born in Washington County, PA. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2072 Sender:Cris Robbins Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 12:33:48 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Hi Tracey, The story of the Washburn's and the Robbins and allies going to Mason Kentucky to fight the Indian's is true. I have seen Vincent Robbins mentioned with his brother-in-law George Washburn in Daniel Boone. The earliest t ime that I have seen was around 1785. Lou Anne Winterrowd posted questions about Vincent and his sister Azubia Washburn back in 2002 on a ancestry site blog ( Not Ancestry ) she even posted that there was a Isaac and an other Robbins who lived in Washington Co. PA that she thought could have been there Father. I agree with Tracey that Charity " Geertie " Ryker was not part of the Ohio Vincent Robbins clan. There were 4 children from the Robbins / Ryker union and all of them went to Indiana around 1800. Thanks so much for the attention and shared information about this Ohio Vincent. The only information on him that I have seen was the 1820 Eagle Census and a John W. Robbins biography in the beers brown county book that stated that his Fathe r Vincent had died in his youth. I never thought he would have been alive in 1847 to pass down Washington Co. PA land to his son Vincent Jr. 1808. Cris R. On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 1:52:28 PM EST, Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Hi, The definitions are the on the first page of that book. Did the PDF I attached come through? bd is Bond 82 is 1782 minor ch means minor children 83 is 1783 Tracey On 1/20/2018 12:23 PM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, In the Estate Records, what does ā€œbd 82ā€ and ā€œminor ch 83ā€ mean? Iā€™m guessing the numbers refer to the year of the record, which would mean son Vincent was not a minor in 1783, which means he was born by 1762. From the 1783 Tax List for Nottingham, Washington County, PA: Sarah Sotton/Sutton 200 acres Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, Janu ary 20, 2018 12:14 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] I wish I had better citations for the orphans court record! Ancestry.com has a book online titled Estate records, 1781-96, and deed records, 1782-85, in Washington County, Pennsylvania, 2nd ed And that's where I got the orphan info. Actually--I think I have a typo in my original post! The minor children are Isaac, William, and JAMES -- not John. (Sorry about that!) The thing is in the book...there are NO specific citations for WHERE the records came from. Here's the link if you have an Ancestry subscription: http://interactive.ancestry.com/24808/dvm_LocHist010031b-00033-0/9?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dGenealogy-glh33372743%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_db%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsln%3dR obbins%26gsln_x%3d0%26MSAV%3d1%26uidh%3dfdi&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&rc=184,3675,517,3733;186,3755,517,3815;90,3840,519,3901 In case you don't have a subscription, I'll try to post the title page, description page--which tells in general where the records came from--and the page with Robins on them. The other Robins on that page are: * Ann * Job; 2 minor children of Job: James (who was bound out) and John. We should probably start a new thread to talk about them. We've talked about them in this forum before, I think. They lived in Cecil twp. Washington County PA (about 15 miles from Nottingham twp.) and are in several Yohogania Co, VA records. Tracey On 1/20/2018 9:30 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, Nottingham Township, Washington County, PA, was formed in 1781 as an original township, therefore the Tax Records I mentioned are truly for that township. Shelby County, Kentucky, was formed from Jeffer son County in 1792. Do you have a date for the Orphanā€™s Court record you mentioned? Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:33 PM To: robbinsfami lysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Thanks Garry. Part of the complication of researching the families in this area of Pennsylvania is the boundary disputes with Virginia and the fact that it truly was the "frontier." Here's a great table of all of the governments that Washington County Pennsylvania was under before and after its formation: Taken from: http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/Geog/PA/PA-WashingtonCo-formation.html | Formation of Washington County, Pennsylvania | | | Source: AniMap Plus: County Boundary Historical Atlas: with "SiteFinder," U.S. Place Name Database and U.S. Cemetery Database. (On CD.) Gold Bug Software, Alamo, CA. | | | | | 1750 | Cumberland Co. is formed from Lancaster Co. and unincorporated territory; encompasses the entire southwestern quarter of Pennsylvania | | 1771 | Bedford Co. is formed from the western two-thirds of Cumberland Co. | | 1773 | Westmoreland Co. is formed from western Bedford Co.; the state of Virginia forms the "West Augusta District" from northwestern Augusta Co., but it includes Westmoreland Co., PA | | 1776 | Virginia creates Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos. in the West Augusta District | | 1779 | Virginia verbally agrees to the change in her border, but nothing is carried out | | 1781 | Washington Co. is formed from western Westmoreland Co., includes parts of Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos., VA; most of what would be the final Washington Co. , PA, was in Yohogania Co., VA; most of what would become Greene Co., PA, was in Monongalia and Ohio Cos., VA | | 1784-5 | Boundary between Pennsylvania and Virginia is surveyed | | 1786 | Virginia formally terminates its jurisdiction in SW Pennsylvania; Yohogania Co. ceases to exist | | 1788 | Allegheny Co. is formed from part of northeastern Washington Co. | | 1796 | Greene Co. is formed from southern Washington Co. | | 1800 | Beaver Co. is formed from part of northwestern Washington Co. | | 1802 | Washington Co. gains from Greene Co.; Washington Co. is now in its final form | | On 1/19/2018 11:36 AM, gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: I've researching for more information on Isaac Robbins without much success. - the 1781 Tax List for Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA, does not list Isaac or Sarah. The names Washburn, Vanaten, Devore, are there. Daniel Robins, David Sutton. - the 1783 Tax List has Enos McDonald with 100 acres of land, by 1788 he has 300 acres. - I've found no listings for James Sutton, who married Isaac's widow. Possibly, James was the minister, born about 1737, who spent some time in Washington County, PA. He later went to Shelby County, Kentucky, were Vin cent Robbins and Asubia Robbins lived. Supposedly, James Sutton Jr. was born in Washington County, PA. 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I have upgraded my YDNA from my male Robbins cousin to a 67 . 111211 . Should l go further ? Thanks, Shirley Sent from my iPad ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2074 Sender:crisrobbins@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 12:56:48 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] Message: Hi Gary, Thanks for the information correction on Isaac's children. I have been trying to figure out where James Robbins 1785-1836 in Union Brown county Ohio fit into either Vincent's family or Obediah's. There was also a Willi am Robbins who I believe is Obediah's son living in Washington Twp. There is a site http://www.tbgen.com/hodgkins/children.html http://www.tbgen.com/hodgkins/children.html that explained the Robbins / Wright connectio n and they lived in Washington Twp. Brown County Ohio. C.R. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2075 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 13:06:34 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: George Washburn and Asubia moved to Brown County, Ohio, where he died in 1850. Was there another George Washburn who lived in Shelby County, KY, in 1795? From the 1820 census for Eagle, Brown County, Ohio: Robins, Vincent 010001-11000 I canā€™t find a Vincent Robbins/Robins in Indiana in 1820. Garry From: Cris Robbins crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 2:33 PM To: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Hi Tracey, The story of the Washburn's and the Robbins and allies going to Mason Kentucky to fight the Indian's is true. I have seen Vincent Robbins mentioned with his brother-in-law George Washburn in Daniel Boone. The earliest t ime that I have seen was around 1785. Lou Anne Winterrowd posted questions about Vincent and his sister Azubia Washburn back in 2002 on a ancestry site blog ( Not Ancestry ) she even posted that there was a Isaac and an other Robbins who lived in Washington Co. PA that she thought could have been there Father. I agree with Tracey that Charity " Geertie " Ryker was not part of the Ohio Vincent Robbins clan. There were 4 children from the Robbins / Ryker union and all of them went to Indiana around 1800. Thanks so much for the attention and shared information about this Ohio Vincent. The only information on him that I have seen was the 1820 Eagle Census and a John W. Robbins biography in the beers brown county book that stated that his Fathe r Vincent had died in his youth. I never thought he would have been alive in 1847 to pass down Washington Co. PA land to his son Vincent Jr. 1808. Cris R. On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 1:52:28 PM EST, Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Hi, The definitions are the on the first page of that book. Did the PDF I attached come through? bd is Bond 82 is 1782 minor ch means minor children 83 is 1783 Tracey On 1/20/2018 12:23 PM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, In the Estate Records, what does ā€œbd 82ā€ and ā€œminor ch 83ā€ mean? Iā€™m guessing the numbers refer to the year of the record, which would mean son Vincent was not a minor in 1783, which means he was born by 1762. From the 1783 Tax List for Nottingham, Washington County, PA: Sarah Sotton/Sutton 200 acres Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 12:14 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] I wish I had better citations for the orphans court record! Ancestry.com has a book online titled Estate records, 1781-96, and deed records, 1782-85, in Washington County, Pennsylvania, 2nd ed And that's where I got the orphan info. Actually--I think I have a typo in my original post! The minor children are Isaac, William, and JAMES -- not John. (Sorry about that!) The thing is in the book...there are NO specific citations for WHERE the records came from. Here's the link if you have an Ancestry subscription: http://interactive.ancestry.com/24808/dvm_LocHist010031b-00033-0/9?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dGenealogy-glh33372743%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_db%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsln%3d Robbins%26gsln_x%3d0%26MSAV%3d1%26uidh%3dfdi&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&rc=184,3675,517,3733;186,3755,517,3815;90,3840,519,3901 In case you don't have a subscription, I'll try to post the title page, description page--which tells in general where the records came from--and the page with Robins on them. The other Robins on that page are: * Ann * Job; 2 minor children of Job: James (who was bound out) and John. We should probably start a new thread to talk about them. We've talked about them in this forum before, I think. They lived in Cecil twp. Washington County PA (about 15 miles from Nottingham twp.) and are in several Yohogania Co, VA records. Tracey On 1/20/2018 9:30 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, Nottingham Township, Washington County, PA, was formed in 1781 as an original township, therefore the Tax Records I mentioned are truly for that township. Shelby County, Kentucky, was formed from Jefferson County in 1792. Do you have a date for the Orphanā€™s Court record you mentioned? Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:33 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Thanks Garry. Part of the complication of researching the families in this area of Pennsylvania is the boundary disputes with Virginia and the fact that it truly was the "frontier." Here's a great table of all of the governments that Washington County Pennsylvania was under before and after its formation: Taken from: http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/Geog/PA/PA-WashingtonCo-formation.html Formation of Washington County, Pennsylvania Source: AniMap Plus: County Boundary Historical Atlas: with "SiteFinder," U.S. Place Name Database and U.S. Cemetery Database.. (On CD.) Gold Bug Software, Alamo, CA. 1750 Cumberland Co. is formed from Lancaster Co. and unincorporated territory; encompasses the entire southwestern quarter of Pennsylvania 1771 Bedford Co. is formed from the western two-thirds of Cumberland Co. 1773 Westmoreland Co. is formed from western Bedford Co.; the state of Virginia forms the "West Augusta District" from northwestern Augusta Co., but it includes Westmoreland Co., PA 1776 Virginia creates Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos. in the West Augusta District 1779 Virginia verbally agrees to the change in her border, but nothing is carried out 1781 Washington Co. is formed from western Westmoreland Co., includes parts of Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Cos., VA; most of what would be the final Washington Co. , PA, was in Yohogania Co., VA; mos t of what would become Greene Co., PA, was in Monongalia and Ohio Cos., VA 1784-5 Boundary between Pennsylvania and Virginia is surveyed 1786 Virginia formally terminates its jurisdiction in SW Pennsylvania; Yohogania Co. ceases to exist 1788 Allegheny Co. is formed from part of northeastern Washington Co. 1796 Greene Co. is formed from southern Washington Co. 1800 Beaver Co. is formed from part of northwestern Washington Co. 1802 Washington Co. gains from Greene Co.; Washington Co. is now in its final form On 1/19/2018 11:36 AM, gheagy@netflash.net [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: I've researching for more information on Isaac Robbins without much success. - the 1781 Tax List for Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA, does not list Isaac or Sarah. The names Washburn, Vanaten, Devore, are there. Daniel Robins, David Sutton. - the 1783 Tax List has Enos McDonald with 100 acres of land, by 1788 he has 300 acres. - I've found no listings for James Sutton, who married Isaac's widow. Possibly, James was the minister, born about 1737, who spent some time in Washington County, PA. He later went to Shelby County, Kentucky, we re Vincent Robbins and Asubia Robbins lived. Supposedly, James Sutton Jr. was born in Washington County, PA. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2076 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 13:12:25 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Cris, Itā€™s Tracey who corrected Isaacā€™s childrenā€™s names, but James born 1785 would not be a son of Isaac since he had died by 1782. I think I should have gotten distracted with something else, this has gotten more complicated than than I thought it would be. Garry From: crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 2:56 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Hi Gary, Thanks for the information correction on Isaac's children. I have been trying to figure out where James Robbins 1785-1836 in Union Brown county Ohio fit into either Vincent's family or Obediah's. There was also a Willia m Robbins who I believe is Obediah's son living in Washington Twp. There is a site http://www.tbgen.com/hodgkins/children.html that explained the Robbins / Wright connection and they lived in Washington Twp. Brown Cou nty Ohio. C.R. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2077 Sender:Bob Robins Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 13:41:13 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Note Message: Shirley - I wouldn't want to discourage you from going up to Y111 but you probably will not learn much more of personal genealogical value by upgrading. Consider saving up for the Big Y test the next time they go on sale, if you can, as that will contribute more to developing the Y Tree for the Robbins group. Currently only 3 of us have tested to that level, with a Robb ins specific haplogroup of R-Y34195, and between us we have enough unnamed variants that more tests can potentially add additional branches. They would also help refine the age estimates for the branch. Ultimately Y111 + Big Y is the current"gold standard". I hope to see the Big Y costs coming down more this year as it is still pretty pricey, though I managed to get one for an in-law for $200 off during the holiday sale. ā£Bob Robins Silver Spring, MDā€‹ On Jan 20, 2018, 2:37 PM, at 2:37 PM, "Shirley Hawley robins.shirley@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: >FYI. I have upgraded my YDNA from my male Robbins cousin to a 67 . >111211 . Should l go further ? Thanks, Shirley > > > >Sent from my iPad ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2078 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 14:22:33 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio Message: Cris Robbins might be the better person to answer. He descends from this Vincent Sr. through Vincent's son Peter, as I recall. But...In the 1820 Brown Co. Ohio census, Vincent Sr. was 45 & up. So that would make him born 1775 or EARLIER. Vincent Sr. died between 1847 (when that deed was made) and 1850 when the census was taken. Only his widow, Nancy (Haynes) Robbins is in the 1850 census with their younger children still at home. Nancy was Vincent's 2nd wife. She was 20+ years YOUNGER than him. They married in Brown Co. Ohio on 8 Oct 1822. 1850 census abstract: Name: Nancy Robins Age: 52 Birth Year: abt 1798 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Home in 1850: Jackson, Clermont, Ohio, USA Gender: Female Family Number: 156 Household Members: Name Age Nancy Robins 52 Alexander Robbins 29 Margaret A Morse 22 John W Robbins 19 Sarah C Robbins 15 Emry E Morse 1 James Fryman 12 Vincent Jr. was born in 1807. The 1850 census says his birth place was Ohio. 1850 census abstract: Name:Vincient Robins [Vincent Robbins] Age:42 Birth Year:abt 1808 Birthplace:Ohio Home in 1850:Pike, Brown, Ohio, USA Name Age Vincient Robins 42 Susan Robins 39 Christopher C Robins 12 Zubia Robins 7 Marshall Robins 10 On 1/20/2018 11:50 AM, 'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, Do you have a birthdate, approximate birthdate or educated guess for Vincent Robins, Sr. & Vincent Robins, Jr. named in the 1847 Ohio Deed you discovered? Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 10:02 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio I made a pretty big discovery about Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio. I wanted to share it with everyone--especially Cris who first told us about this Vincent almost exactly one year ago! FamilySearch.org has digitized many deeds for Washington County Pennsylvania. And in looking at those deeds today, I found a deed between Vincent Robins Sr. and Vincent Robins Jr. both of Brown County Ohio. (Washington Co. PA Deed v. 55, 3E 1846-1848, page 600, 11 Nov 1847) The deed says the Pennsylvania property that Vincent Sr. is conveying to Vincent Jr. "has descended to" Vincent Sr. as "heir of Isaac Robbins." Exciting!! Now...I believe this Isaac Robbins is the one who died between 1781 and 1782, without a will, in the Mingo Creek area of Nottingham twp. Washington Co. PA. Isaac left a widow, Sarah, who by 1782 had married James Sutton. Isaac and Sarah also had at least 3 minor children in 1783: Isaac, William and John--who it appears are named in an orphan's court record. The orphan's court records are also digitized. However, to view them, you have to go to an LDS Family History Center and use their computers. (I've included a transcription of this deed at the bottom of this post. You can also see the copy I transcribed at: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNL-HGYH?i=322&cat=225855 ) I also found a deed in which Sarah Sutton (relict of Isaac Robbins) is selling property that belonged to Isaac Robbins. (Washington Co. PA Deeds v. 1. 1A 1781-1784, page 20, 4 July 1782) (See this deed at:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSXB-PQZ1-Q?i=17&cat=225855 ) The property is described as being 150 acres bounded by Mingo Creek and bounded by the lands of the following people: Jeremiah Washb urn Peter Devore James Vannaten and "the remainder of the tract along a run commonly call'd and known by the name Robbins's Spring Run being the Northwestern part of the tract..." The men listed here are also important. Researchers of Sussex Co. Robbins families will likely recognize the surnames. The Jeremiah Washburn here was either the father or brother of George Washburn who was married to an Azubia Robbins b. about 1768. Cris suspected this Azubia was a sister to the Vincent of Brown Co. Ohio. I think that is likely too! Jeremiah's wife was Rebecca Devore. So it is interesting there is also a Devore in the list. James Vannaten is likely from the Van Etten families who were numerous in Sussex. Interestingly, in later years (early 1800s) ALL of these families end up in Brown Co. Ohio. I'd also like to make a pitch he re about how important deeds are to our research. As you can see from the Vincent deed...it was in the Washington Co. PA records because that is where the property was located. However Vincent hadn't lived in Pennsylvania for close to 50 years at the time the deed was written!! Gems are out there. But you have to be willing to do the digging for them! FamilySearch has MANY land records digitized online but they are NOT digitally indexed. You have to find the digital copies of the microfilm indexes and then use them to navigate the digitized deed books. The best way to find land records on FamilySearch is: 1. Click Search at the top of the page. 2. Click Catalog. 3. In the Place field, type the county and state where you are looking for land records. For example, United States, Pennsylvania, Washington 4. Select that location and click Search. 5.. Scroll through the results and locate an entr y that says "Land and Property" 6. Expand the entry. 7. Look for something that has recorder of deeds a government entity as the author. For Washington Co. PA the entry is "Deed books, 1781-1886; deed index, 1781-1924" 8. Look for indexes. If the entry has a little camera icon next to it, you can view them from your computer. If the entry has a little camera with a key over it, it means you must find an LDS Family History Center in your area and view it there. If it has a little film reel, it means it is not digitized and is only on microfilm. 9. Start searching! OK. Speech over. Now we can all try to figure out who this Isaac is the son of, right? :-) And...were Vincent and Azubia his children? Or his siblings?? One way or another, Vincent Sr. in the deed was Isaac's heir... Lots to think about and debate! But at least we have more clues! < p>Here is a transcription of the Vincent Robbins Sr. to Vincent Robbins Jr. deed of 1847: Know all men by these presents that I Vincent Robins Sr. of the County of Brown and State of Ohio of the first part for and in consideration of the sum of one hundred dollars to me in hand paid and the natural love and affection which I entertain for my son Vincent Robbins Jr. of said County and State of the second part do hereby grant sell and convey release en? and confirm until the said Vincent Robbins Jr. and to his heirs and assigns forever. All the real estate which I own or may claim title to in the State of Pennsylvania of every name and description and more particularly a tract of land containing three hundred and seventy seven acres in said State of Pennsylvania in the Township of Nottingham Washington County adjoining lands of the heirs of F. Hull, Jacob Figley, John Wallace, James Chambers, and others and more fully described in a deed dated November 16th 1795 and recorded in Book M Volume 1 page 151 & 152 the 16th day of May 1796 in favor of Isaac Robbins from whom said land has descended to me as heir of said Isaac Robbins with all and singular the appurtenances. To Have and to Hold all of the said real estate with all the appurtenances to him the said Vincent Robbins Jr. his heirs and assigns forever. In Witness Whereof I do hereto set my hand and seal this third day of June AD 1847. Signed sealed & delivered in presence of us. Tory Coon, John Stratton, G. Anderson. State of Ohio Brown County Before the undersigned one of the Justices of the peace within said County of Brown personally came Vincent Robbins Sr. the above grantor and acknowledged the above conveyance to be his free and voluntary act and deed for the uses and purposes in the same expressed and we certify that from personal knowledge we are satisfied that the said Grantor is the identical person he represents himself to be. In Witness Whereof we do hereto set our hands and seals this 3rd day of June 1847. Garlen Anderson Justice of the Peace The State of Ohio Brown County I John H Blair Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County do hereby certify that Garlen Anderson who took the foregoing acknowledgement was at the date thereof an acting Justice of the Peace in and for Brown County duly commissioned and qualified as such that said acknowledgement by him taken is in due form of law and that full faith and credit are due to all his official acts as such Justice. In Testimony Whereof I have hereto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said Court at Georgton this 23d day of August AD 1847 James H Blair Clerk Recorded and compared with original November 11 AD 1847 James Brown Recorder ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2079 Sender:Cris Robbins Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 14:32:39 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio Message: HI Sara, The best age I have for Vincent Sr. was from the 1820 Census. He was over 45, That means he was born at least 1775. His sister Azubia Washburn was born 1768 - 1830. I figured she was a little older than Vincent and he followed her to Kentucky. C.R. On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 4:22:40 PM EST, Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Cris Robbins might be the better person to answer. He descends from this Vincent Sr. through Vincent's son Peter, as I recall. But...In the 1820 Brown Co. Ohio census, Vincent Sr. was 45 & up. So that would make him born 1775 or EARLIER. Vincent Sr. died between 1847 (when that deed was made) and 1850 when the census was taken. Only his widow, Nancy (Haynes) Robbins is in the 1850 census with their younger children still at home. Nancy was Vincent's 2nd wife. She was 20+ years YOUNGER than him. They married in Brown Co. Ohio on 8 Oct 1822. 1850 census abstract: | Name: | Nancy Robins | | Age: | 52 | | Birth Year: | abt 1798 | | Birthplace: | Pennsylvania | | Home in 1850: | Jackson, Clermont, Ohio, USA | | Gender: | Female | | Family Number: | 156 | | Household Members: | | Name | Age | | Nancy Robins | 52 | | Alexander Robbins | 29 | | Margaret A Morse | 22 | | John W Robbins | 19 | | Sarah C Robbins | 15 | | Emry E Morse | 1 | | James Fryman | 12 | | Vincent Jr. was born in 1807. The 1850 census says his birth place was Ohio. 1850 census abstract: Name:Vincient Robins [Vincent Robbins] Age:42 Birth Year:abt 1808 Birthplace:Ohio Home in 1850:Pike, Brown, Ohio, USA | Name | Age | | Vincient Robins | 42 | | Susan Robins | 39 | | Christopher C Robins | 12 | | Zubia Robins | 7 | | Marshall Robins | 10 | On 1/20/2018 11:50 AM, 'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, Do you have a birthdate, approximate birthdate or educated guess for Vincent Robins, Sr. & Vincent Robins, Jr. named in the 1847 Ohio Deed you discovered? Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 10:02 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio I made a pretty big discovery about Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio. I wanted to share it with everyone--especially Cris who first told us about this Vincent almost exactly one year ago! FamilySearch.org has digitized many deeds for Washington County Pennsylvania. And in looking at those deeds today, I found a deed between Vincent Robins Sr. and Vincent Robins Jr. both of Brown County Ohio. (Washington Co. PA Deed v. 55, 3E 1846-1848, page 600, 11 Nov 1847) The deed says the Pennsylvania property that Vincent Sr. is conveying to Vincent Jr. "has descended to" Vincent Sr. as "heir of Isaac Robbins." Exciting!! Now...I believe this Isaac Robbins is the one who died between 1781 and 1782, without a will, in the Mingo Creek area of Nottingham twp. Washington Co. PA. Isaac left a widow, Sarah, who by 1782 had married James Sutton. Isaac and Sarah also had at least 3 minor children in 1783: Isaac, William and John--who it appears are named in an orphan's court record. The orphan's court records are also digitized. However, to view them, you have to go to an LDS Family History Center and use their computers. (I've included a transcription of this deed at the bottom of this post. You can also see the copy I transcribed at:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNL-HGYH?i=322&cat=225855 ) I also found a deed in which Sarah Sutton (relict of Isaac Robbins) is selling property that belonged to Isaac Robbins. (Washington Co. PA Deeds v. 1. 1A 1781-1784, page 20, 4 July 1782) (See this deedat:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSXB-PQZ1-Q?i=17&cat=225855 ) The property is described as being 150 acres bounded by Mingo Creek and bounded by the lands of the following people: Jeremiah Washb urn Peter Devore James Vannaten and "the remainder of the tract along a run commonly call'd and known by the name Robbins's Spring Run being the Northwestern part of the tract..." The men listed here are also important. Researchers of Sussex Co. Robbins families will likely recognize the surnames. The Jeremiah Washburn here was either the father or brother of George Washburn who was married to an Azubia Robbins b. about 1768. Cris suspected this Azubia was a sister to the Vincent of Brown Co. Ohio. I think that is likely too! Jeremiah's wife was Rebecca Devore. So it is interesting there is also a Devore in the list. James Vannaten is likely from the Van Etten families who were numerous in Sussex. Interestingly, in later years (early 1800s) ALL of these families end up in Brown Co. Ohio. I'd also like to make a pitch he re about how important deeds are to our research. As you can see from the Vincent deed...it was in the Washington Co. PA records because that is where the property was located. However Vincent hadn't lived in Pennsylvania for close to 50 years at the time the deed was written!! Gems are out there. But you have to be willing to do the digging for them! FamilySearch has MANY land records digitized online but they are NOT digitally indexed. You have to find the digital copies of the microfilm indexes and then use them to navigate the digitized deed books. The best way to find land records on FamilySearch is: 1. Click Search at the top of the page. 2. Click Catalog. 3. In the Place field, type the county and state where you are looking for land records. For example, United States, Pennsylvania, Washington 4. Select that location and click Search. 5.. Scroll through the results and locate an entr y that says "Land and Property" 6. Expand the entry. 7. Look for something that has recorder of deeds a government entity as the author. For Washington Co. PA the entry is "Deed books, 1781-1886; deed index, 1781-1924" 8. Look for indexes. If the entry has a little camera icon next to it, you can view them from your computer. If the entry has a little camera with a key over it, it means you must find an LDS Family History Center in your area and view it there. If it has a little film reel, it means it is not digitized and is only on microfilm. 9. Start searching! OK. Speech over. Now we can all try to figure out who this Isaac is the son of, right? :-) And...were Vincent and Azubia his children? Or his siblings?? One way or another, Vincent Sr. in the deed was Isaac's heir... Lots to think about and debate! But at least we have more clues! < p>Here is a transcription of the Vincent Robbins Sr. to Vincent Robbins Jr. deed of 1847: Know all men by these presents that I Vincent Robins Sr. of the County of Brown and State of Ohio of the first part for and in consideration of the sum of one hundred dollars to me in hand paid and the natural love and affection which I entertain for my son Vincent Robbins Jr. of said County and State of the second part do hereby grant sell and convey release en? and confirm until the said Vincent Robbins Jr. and to his heirs and assigns forever. All the real estate which I own or may claim title to in the State of Pennsylvania of every name and description and more particularly a tract of land containing three hundred and seventy seven acres in said State of Pennsylvania in the Township of Nottingham Washington County adjoining lands of the heirs of F. Hull, Jacob Figley, John Wallace, James Chambers, and others and more fully described in a deed dated November 16th 1795 and recorded in Book M Volume 1 page 151 & 152 the 16th day of May 1796 in favor of Isaac Robbins from whom said land has descended to me as heir of said Isaac Robbins with all and singular the appurtenances. To Have and to Hold all of the said real estate with all the appurtenances to him the said Vincent Robbins Jr. his heirs and assigns forever. In Witness Whereof I do hereto set my hand and seal this third day of June AD 1847. Signed sealed & delivered in presence of us. Tory Coon, John Stratton, G. Anderson. State of Ohio Brown County Before the undersigned one of the Justices of the peace within said County of Brown personally came Vincent Robbins Sr. the above grantor and acknowledged the above conveyance to be his free and voluntary act and deed for the uses and purposes in the same expressed and we certify that from personal knowledge we are satisfied that the said Grantor is the identical person he represents himself to be. In Witness Whereof we do hereto set our hands and seals this 3rd day of June 1847. Garlen Anderson Justice of the Peace The State of Ohio Brown County I John H Blair Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County do hereby certify that Garlen Anderson who took the foregoing acknowledgement was at the date thereof an acting Justice of the Peace in and for Brown County duly commissioned and qualified as such that said acknowledgement by him taken is in due form of law and that full faith and credit are due to all his official acts as such Justice. 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Ohio Message: Cris, Do you have a marriage record for George Washburn and Azubia Robbins? Do you where in Kentucky they married? It seems the families likely lived next to each other in Washington Co. PA--given the details in the Sarah Sutton deed. But if a record exists, it would be great to add to the discussion. Tracey On 1/20/2018 3:32 PM, Cris Robbins crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: HI Sara, The best age I have for Vincent Sr. was from the 1820 Census. He was over 45, That means he was born at least 1775. His sister Azubia Washburn was born 1768 - 1830. I figured she was a little older than Vincent and he followed her to Kentucky. C.R. On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 4:22:40 PM EST, Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Cris Robbins might be the better person to answer. He descends from this Vincent Sr. through Vincent's son Peter, as I recall. But...In the 1820 Brown Co. Ohio census, Vincent Sr. was 45 & up. So that would make him born 1775 or EARLIER. Vincent Sr. died between 1847 (when that deed was made) and 1850 when the census was taken. Only his widow, Nancy (Haynes) Robbins is in the 1850 census with their younger children still at home. Nancy was Vincent's 2nd wife. She was 20+ years YOUNGER than him. They married in Brown Co. Ohio on 8 Oct 1822. 1850 census abstract: Name: Nancy Robins Age: 52 Birth Year: abt 1798 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Home in 1850: Jackson, Clermont, Ohio, USA Gender: Female Family Number: 156 Household Members: Name Age Nancy Robins 52 Alexander Robbins 29 Margaret A Morse 22 John W Robbins 19 Sarah C Robbins 15 Emry E Morse 1 James Fryman 12 Vincent Jr. was born in 1807. The 1850 census says his birth place was Ohio. 1850 census abstract: Name:Vincient Robins [Vincent Robbins] Age:42 Birth Year:abt 1808 Birthplace:Ohio Home in 1850:Pike, Brown, Ohio, USA Name Age Vincient Robins 42 Susan Robins 39 Christopher C Robins 12 Zubia Robins 7 Marshall Robins 10 On 1/20/2018 11:50 AM, 'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, Do you have a birthdate, approximate birthdate or educated guess for Vincent Robins, Sr. & Vincent Robins, Jr. named in the 1847 Ohio Deed you discovered? Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 10:02 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio I made a pretty big discovery about Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio. I wanted to share it with everyone--especially Cris who first told us about this Vincent almost exactly one year ago! FamilySearch.org has digitized many deeds for Washington County Pennsylvania. And in looking at those deeds today, I found a deed between Vincent Robins Sr. and Vincent Robins Jr. both of Brown County Ohio. (Washington Co. PA Deed v. 55, 3E 1846-1848, page 600, 11 Nov 1847) The deed says the Pennsylvania property that Vincent Sr. is conveying to Vincent Jr. "has descended to" Vincent Sr. as "heir of Isaac Robbins." Exciting!! Now...I believe this Isaac Robbins is the one who died between 1781 and 1782, without a will, in the Mingo Creek area of Nottingham twp. Washington Co. PA. Isaac left a widow, Sarah, who by 1782 had married James Sutton. Isaac and Sarah also had at least 3 minor children in 1783: Isaac, William and John--who it appears are named in an orphan's court record. The orphan's court records are also digitized. However, to view them, you have to go to an LDS Family History Center and use their computers. (I've included a transcription of this deed at the bottom of this post. You can also see the copy I transcribed at: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNL-HGYH?i=322&cat=225855 ) I also found a deed in which Sarah Sutton (relict of Isaac Robbins) is selling property that belonged to Isaac Robbins. (Washington Co. PA Deeds v. 1. 1A 1781-1784, page 20, 4 July 1782) (See this deed at:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSXB-PQZ1-Q?i=17&cat=225855 ) The property is described as being 150 acres bounded by Mingo Creek and bounded by the lands of the following people: Jeremiah Washb urn Peter Devore James Vannaten and "the remainder of the tract along a run commonly call'd and known by the name Robbins's Spring Run being the Northwestern part of the tract..." The men listed here are also important. Researchers of Sussex Co. Robbins families will likely recognize the surnames. The Jeremiah Washburn here was either the father or brother of George Washburn who was married to an Azubia Robbins b. about 1768. Cris suspected this Azubia was a sister to the Vincent of Brown Co. Ohio. I think that is likely too! Jeremiah's wife was Rebecca Devore. So it is interesting there is also a Devore in the list. James Vannaten is likely from the Van Etten families who were numerous in Sussex. Interestingly, in later years (early 1800s) ALL of these families end up in Brown Co. Ohio. I'd also like to make a pitch he re about how important deeds are to our research. As you can see from the Vincent deed...it was in the Washington Co. PA records because that is where the property was located. However Vincent hadn't lived in Pennsylvania for close to 50 years at the time the deed was written!! Gems are out there. But you have to be willing to do the digging for them! FamilySearch has MANY land records digitized online but they are NOT digitally indexed. You have to find the digital copies of the microfilm indexes and then use them to navigate the digitized deed books. The best way to find land records on FamilySearch is: 1. Click Search at the top of the page. 2. Click Catalog. 3. In the Place field, type the county and state where you are looking for land records. For example, United States, Pennsylvania, Washington 4. Select that location and click Search. 5.. Scroll through the results and locate an entr y that says "Land and Property" 6. Expand the entry. 7. Look for something that has recorder of deeds a government entity as the author. For Washington Co. PA the entry is "Deed books, 1781-1886; deed index, 1781-1924" 8. Look for indexes. If the entry has a little camera icon next to it, you can view them from your computer. If the entry has a little camera with a key over it, it means you must find an LDS Family History Center in your area and view it there. If it has a little film reel, it means it is not digitized and is only on microfilm. 9. Start searching! OK. Speech over. Now we can all try to figure out who this Isaac is the son of, right? :-) And...were Vincent and Azubia his children? Or his siblings?? One way or another, Vincent Sr. in the deed was Isaac's heir... Lots to think about and debate! But at least we have more clues! < p>Here is a transcription of the Vincent Robbins Sr. to Vincent Robbins Jr. deed of 1847: Know all men by these presents that I Vincent Robins Sr. of the County of Brown and State of Ohio of the first part for and in consideration of the sum of one hundred dollars to me in hand paid and the natural love and affection which I entertain for my son Vincent Robbins Jr. of said County and State of the second part do hereby grant sell and convey release en? and confirm until the said Vincent Robbins Jr. and to his heirs and assigns forever. All the real estate which I own or may claim title to in the State of Pennsylvania of every name and description and more particularly a tract of land containing three hundred and seventy seven acres in said State of Pennsylvania in the Township of Nottingham Washington County adjoining lands of the heirs of F. Hull, Jacob Figley, John Wallace, James Chambers, and others and more fully described in a deed dated November 16th 1795 and recorded in Book M Volume 1 page 151 & 152 the 16th day of May 1796 in favor of Isaac Robbins from whom said land has descended to me as heir of said Isaac Robbins with all and singular the appurtenances. To Have and to Hold all of the said real estate with all the appurtenances to him the said Vincent Robbins Jr. his heirs and assigns forever. In Witness Whereof I do hereto set my hand and seal this third day of June AD 1847. Signed sealed & delivered in presence of us. Tory Coon, John Stratton, G. Anderson. State of Ohio Brown County Before the undersigned one of the Justices of the peace within said County of Brown personally came Vincent Robbins Sr. the above grantor and acknowledged the above conveyance to be his free and voluntary act and deed for the uses and purposes in the same expressed and we certify that from personal knowledge we are satisfied (Message over 64 KB, truncated) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2081 Sender:crisrobbins@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 14:53:24 Subject:Re: Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio Message: Hi Tracey, I have not seen a original wedding paper. I emailed Rita Islo a cousin from the shared Peter Robbins 1810-1893. She had a Wells family connection that was also related to the Washburns. I was hoping she was reading al l the Vincent revelations. This Cornielus Washburn 1785-1821 named his first son Vincent Robbins Washburn 1814-1891. If I come across marriage information I will sent it to you. C.R. Birth of Son Cornelius Washburn https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/88495589/person/250006173654(1785ā€“1821) 1785 ā€¢ Dover, Mason, Kentucky, United States 1785 19 Birth of Son Jeremiah Washburn https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/88495589/person/250174712972(1786ā€“1859) 1 Feb 1786 ā€¢ Dover, Mason, Kentucky, United States 1786 20 Marriage 1786 ā€¢ Kentucky, United States Azuba Robbins Washburn https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/88495589/person/250006173508 (1768ā€“1830) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2082 Sender:tracey.marcelo@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 14:55:41 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Hi! Sorry for my abrupt reply earlier! I got interrupted and then had to step away! Garry--to get back to your comment about Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. He and the Vincent Robbins of Brown Ohio were two separate people. I'm convinced of that. I have not researched the Washburns so I can't comment on the George Washburn in Shelby Co. KY. I can tell you that Charity Ryker Robbins (widow of Vincent Robbins of KY/IN) was alive in the 1850 census and some of her children still living with her. Here is an abstract of that census: Name:Charity Robins [Charity Robbins] Age:79 Birth Year:abt 1771 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1850:Canaan, Jefferson, Indiana, USA Name Age James Robins https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=1975383 39 Nance Robins https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1 850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=1975384 28 Cyntha E Robins https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=1975385 6 John G Robins https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfed cenancestry&indiv=try&h=1975386 4 Daniel Robins https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=1975387 2 Charity Robins https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestr y&indiv=try&h=1975388 79 The children of Vincent and Charity were born between the years of 1788 and 1811 in Kentucky and Indiana. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his first wife (name not known yet) were born between the years 1807 and 1812 in Ohio. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his 2nd wife (Nancy Haynes) were born betwee n the years 1823 and 1835 in Ohio. I can also tell you that several researchers on the Web say that Vincent Robbins (husband of Charity) comes from a North Carolina Robbins family and I thoroughly believe it. Vincent is always mentioned in various sources (such as the Draper papers) as being with the Van Cleaves, the Boones (as in Daniel Boone's family), and others from the Yadkin Creek, Rowan Co NC area. Ironically, my father's family (surname Holmes) lived in Rowan Co. NC at the same time as these families and traveled to Kentucky and then Clark and Jefferson Cos Indiana. So I'm quite familiar with these Rowan Co. men! (My Robbins connection is on my mom's side. :-) ) Obviously, to really deliniate the two Vincent Robbins, it would be best to have a thoroughly sourced "time line" showing where each man was and when. I don't have that. But I am convinced they were two entirely separate people--between the overlapping birth years of their children in two different states and the fact that both wives were alive in 1850 convinces me! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2083 Sender:crisrobbins@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 15:11:55 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Gary, After his wife Azubia Washburn passed in 1830 in Brown County. George re-married and moved to Coal Creek Twp, Montgomery Co Indiana. Vincent Robbins was on a Eagle , Brown County Census in 1820. He married Nancy Moore in 1822 and moved to Scott, Brown County. On the 1830 Census her name was on the census without Male over the age of 20-25. Cris R. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2084 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 15:17:57 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] Message: So was her name Nancy Moore or Nancy Haynes. I'm not sure now where I got Haynes. Hmm... On 1/20/2018 4:11 PM, crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Gary, After his wife Azubia Washburn passed in 1830 in Brown County. George re-married and moved to Coal Creek Twp, Montgomery Co Indiana. Vincent Robbins was on a Eagle , Brown County Census in 1820. He married Nancy Moore in 1822 and moved to Scott, Brown County. On the 1830 Census her name was on the census without Male over the age of 20-25. Cris R. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2085 Sender:Cris Robbins Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 15:31:40 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Hi, On the marriage certificate it was Moore. On a John W. Robbins biography it said Haynes. I have no proof but I assumed that the birth of Alexander 1821 before there marriage may have meant she was married prior to Vince nt in 1822. The only mention of a Haynes was in the Beers book on brown C. history. On family Tree family finder I have a 4th cousin x match with the Wright surname, after I ran who was in common with this lady a clos er male match with a Wright. Jerry Alan HowardTotal CentiMorgans (cM): 52.6022415161Shared DNA Segments: 16 This is a possible Wife and Mother to Vincent and son Peter. On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 5:18:28 PM EST, Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: So was her name Nancy Moore or Nancy Haynes. I'm not sure now where I got Haynes. Hmm... On 1/20/2018 4:11 PM, crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Gary, After his wife Azubia Washburn passed in 1830 in Brown County. George re-married and moved to Coal Creek Twp, Montgomery Co Indiana. Vincent Robbins was on a Eagle , Brown County Census in 1820. He married Nancy Moore in 1822 and moved to Scott, Brown County. On the 1830 Census her name was on the census without Male over the age of 20-25. 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Ohio Message: Hi Cris, Thank you for the approximate age of Vincent Robins, Sr. & all the other additional information. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 2:33 PM To: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio HI Sara, The best age I have for Vincent Sr. was from the 1820 Census. He was over 45, That means he was born at least 1775. His sister Azubia Washburn was born 1768 - 1830. I figured she was a little older than Vincent and he followed her to Kentucky. C.R. On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 4:22:40 PM EST, Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Cris Robbins might be the better person to answer. He descends from this Vincent Sr. through Vincent's son Peter, as I recall. But...In the 1820 Brown Co. Ohio census, Vincent Sr. was 45 & up. So that would make him born 1775 or EARLIER. Vincent Sr. died between 1847 (when that deed was made) and 1850 when the census was taken. Only his widow, Nancy (Haynes) Robbins is in the 1850 census with their younger children still at home. Nancy was Vincent's 2nd wife. She was 20+ years YOUNGER than him. They married in Brown Co. Ohio on 8 Oct 1822. 1850 census abstract: Name: Nancy Robins Age: 52 Birth Year: abt 1798 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Home in 1850: Jackson, Clermont, Ohio, USA Gender: Female Family Number: 156 Household Members: Name Age Nancy Robins 52 Alexander Robbins 29 Margaret A Morse 22 John W Robbins 19 Sarah C Robbins 15 Emry E Morse 1 James Fryman 12 Vincent Jr. was born in 1807. The 1850 census says his birth place was Ohio. 1850 census abstract: Name:Vincient Robins [Vincent Robbins] Age:42 Birth Year:abt 1808 Birthplace:Ohio Home in 1850:Pike, Brown, Ohio, USA Name Age Vincient Robins 42 Susan Robins 39 Christopher C Robins 12 Zubia Robins 7 Marshall Robins 10 On 1/20/2018 11:50 AM, 'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, Do you have a birthdate, approximate birthdate or educated guess for Vincent Robins, Sr. & Vincent Robins, Jr. named in the 1847 Ohio Deed you discovered? Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 10:02 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio I made a pretty big discovery about Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio. I wanted to share it with everyone--especially Cris who first told us about this Vincent almost exactly one year ago! FamilySearch.org has digitized many deeds for Washington County Pennsylvania. And in looking at those deeds today, I found a deed between Vincent Robins Sr. and Vincent Robins Jr. both of Brown County Ohio. (Washington Co. PA Deed v. 55, 3E 1846-1848, page 600, 11 Nov 1847) The deed says the Pennsylvania property that Vincent Sr. is conveying to Vincent Jr. "has descended to" Vincent Sr. as "heir of Isaac Robbins." Exciting!! Now...I believe this Isaac Robbins is the one who died between 1781 and 1782, without a will, in the Mingo Creek area of Nottingham twp. Washington Co. PA. Isaac left a widow, Sarah, who by 1782 had married James Sutton. Isaac and Sarah also had at least 3 minor children in 1783: Isaac, William and John--who it appears are named in an orphan's court record. The orphan's court records are also digitized. However, to view them, you have to go to an LDS Family History Center and use their computers. (I've included a transcription of this deed at the bottom of this post. You can also see the copy I transcribed at: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNL-HGYH?i=322 &cat=225855 ) I also found a deed in which Sarah Sutton (relict of Isaac Robbins) is selling property that belonged to Isaac Robbins. (Washington Co. PA Deeds v. 1. 1A 1781-1784, page 20, 4 July 1782) (See this deed at:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSXB-PQZ1-Q?i=17 &cat=225855 ) The property is described as being 150 acres bounded by Mingo Creek and bounded by the lands of the following people: Jeremiah Washb urn Peter Devore James Vannaten and "the remainder of the tract along a run commonly call'd and known by the name Robbins's Spring Run being the Northwestern part of the tract..." The men listed here are also important. Researchers of Sussex Co. Robbins families will likely recognize the surnames. The Jeremiah Washburn here was either the father or brother of George Washburn who was married to an Azubia Robbins b. about 1768. Cris suspected this Azubia was a sister to the Vincent of Brown Co. Ohio. I think that is likely too! Jeremiah's wife was Rebecca Devore. So it is interesting there is also a Devore in the list. James Vannaten is likely from the Van Etten families who were numerous in Sussex. Interestingly, in later years (early 1800s) ALL of these families end up in Brown Co. Ohio. I'd also like to make a pitch he re about how important deeds are to our research. As you can see from the Vincent deed...it was in the Washington Co. PA records because that is where the property was located. However Vincent hadn't lived in Pennsylvania for close to 50 years at the time the deed was written!! Gems are out there. But you have to be willing to do the digging for them! FamilySearch has MANY land records digitized online but they are NOT digitally indexed. You have to find the digital copies of the microfilm indexes and then use them to navigate the digitized deed books. The best way to find land records on FamilySearch is: 1. Click Search at the top of the page. 2. Click Catalog. 3. In the Place field, type the county and state where you are looking for land records. For example, United States, Pennsylvania, Washington 4. Select that location and click Search. 5.. Scroll through the results and locate an entr y that says "Land and Property" 6. Expand the entry. 7. Look for something that has recorder of deeds a government entity as the author. For Washington Co. PA the entry is "Deed books, 1781-1886; deed index, 1781-1924" 8. Look for indexes. If the entry has a little camera icon next to it, you can view them from your computer. If the entry has a little camera with a key over it, it means you must find an LDS Family History Center in your area and view it there. If it has a little film reel, it means it is not digitized and is only on microfilm. 9. Start searching! OK. Speech over. Now we can all try to figure out who this Isaac is the son of, right? :-) And...were Vincent and Azubia his children? Or his siblings?? One way or another, Vincent Sr. in the deed was Isaac's heir... Lots to think about and debate! But at least we have more clues! < p>Here is a transcription of the Vincent Robbins Sr. to Vincent Robbins Jr. deed of 1847: Know all men by these presents that I Vincent Robins Sr. of the County of Brown and State of Ohio of the first part for and in consideration of the sum of one hundred dollars to me in hand paid and the natural love and affection which I entertain for my son Vincent Robbins Jr. of said County and State of the second part do hereby grant sell and convey release en? and confirm until the said Vincent Robbins Jr. and to his heirs and assigns forever. All the real estate which I own or may claim title to in the State of Pennsylvania of every name and description and more particularly a tract of land containing three hundred and seventy seven acres in said State of Pennsylvania in the Township of Nottingham Washington County adjoining lands of the heirs of F. Hull, Jacob Figley, John Wallace, James Chambers, and others and more fully described in a deed dated November 16th 1795 and recorded in Book M Volume 1 page 151 & 152 the 16th day of May 1796 in favor of Isaac Robbins from whom said land has descended to me as heir of said Isaac Robbins with all and singular the appurtenances. To Have and to Hold all of the said real estate with all the appurtenances to him the said Vincent Robbins Jr. his heirs and assigns forever. In Witness Whereof I do hereto set my hand and seal this third day of June AD 1847. Signed sealed & delivered in presence of us. Tory Coon, John Stratton, G. Anderson. State of Ohio Brown County Before the undersigned one of the Justices of the peace within said County of Brown personally came Vincent Robbins Sr. the above grantor and acknowledged the above conveyance to be his free and voluntary act and deed for the uses and purposes in the same expressed and we certify that from personal knowledge we are satisfied that the said Grantor is the identical person he represents himself to be. In Witness Whereof we do hereto set our hands and seals this 3rd day of June 1847. Garlen Anderson Justice of the Peace The State of Ohio Brown County I John H Blair Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County do hereby certify that Garlen Anderson who took the foregoing acknowledgement was at the date thereof an acting Justice of the Peace in and for Brown County duly commissioned and qualified as such that said acknowledgement by him taken is in due form of law and that full faith and credit are due to all his official acts as such Justice. In Testimony Whereof I have hereto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said Court at Georgton this 23d day of August AD 1847 James H Blair Clerk Recorded and compared with original November 11 AD 1847 James Brown Recorder ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2087 Sender:Shirley Hawley Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 16:50:06 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Vincent Robbins of Brown Co. Ohio Message: Hello, do you know if Peter 1810-1893 had a son James born 1831 in PA?? Probably not as his mother was Abigail and in the Wi. Census. Thanks, Shirley Sent from my iPad > On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:53 PM, crisrobbins@...m [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > Hi Tracey, > > I have not seen a original wedding paper. I emailed Rita Islo a cousin from the shared Peter Robbins 1810-1893. She had a Wells family connection that was also related to the Washburns. I was hoping she was reading a ll the Vincent revelations. This Cornielus Washburn 1785-1821 named his first son Vincent Robbins Washburn 1814-1891. If I come across marriage information I will sent it to you. > > C.R. > > > > > > > Birth of Son Cornelius Washburn(1785ā€“1821) > 1785 ā€¢ Dover, Mason, Kentucky, United States > 1785 > > 19 > > Birth of Son Jeremiah Washburn(1786ā€“1859) > 1 Feb 1786 ā€¢ Dover, Mason, Kentucky, United States > 1786 > > 20 > > > Marriage > 1786 ā€¢ Kentucky, United States > Azuba Robbins Washburn > > (1768ā€“1830) > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2088 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 17:17:08 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan ROBINS, d 1816 (was: John ROBINS, d 1789 Alexandria Twp) Message: I think your theory makes some sense, Sara. Like you, though, I question the two sons, both named Jonathan. A couple questions: Is the "b. ca 1722" based upon anything? Is there any evidence suggesting Jonathan ROBINS (b 1696) was married twice, or is it pure theory? How 'bout an alternative theory ... As far as I know the birthyear (1742) for the Jonathan ROBINS who died in 1816 is only a guess by another researcher. I've written to this other researcher more than once asking about the birthyear but he's never responded addressing it. I believe this birthyear was selected since it is presumed that this Jonathan is the son of Jonathan ROBINS (b 1696), and this birthyear makes it plausible. It is known that Mary HUFF (spouse of Jonathan ROBINS, d 1816) was born in 1764, give or take a year (based upon her headstone). So, based upon that, let's say Jonathan ROBINS (d 1816) was born c1760. I'd like to suggest that Jonathan ROBINS (d 1816) is the grandson of Jonathan ROBINS Sr (d 1796), and the son of Jonathan ROBINS Jr (d 1796). This theory eliminates the need for 2 Jonathans born of Jonathan ROBINS (b 1696). Charles Allen (RIP) believed that there was at least one generation between Jonathan ROBINS (d 1816) and Jonathan ROBINS (b 1696) based upon some circumstantial evidence posted here a while back when Charles was a member. What do you think? PS - Starting in the morning I'll be out of touch for a week or so (just in case you were expecting further responses). PPS - Just an FYI ... I don't see how to access past postings in this group. I've written the moderator for guidance. > Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 > Date: Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:42 am ((PST)) > > Marshall, > > This is a theory or best guessed. Jonathan Robins b. ca 1722, d. 1796 was > the son of Jonathan Robins b. 1694 Woodbridge, d. 1774 Hunterdon Co. & his > first wife (Name Unknown). In theory Jonathan 1694 -1774 & first wife had at > least three children. > > 1. Jonathan b. ca 1722, d. 1796 who had two sons by wife( Name Unknown), > Jonathan 1748-1796, wife ? & John 1751-1789, wife Elizabeth Green. > > 2. Deborah b. ca 1724 d. ? wife of Nathaniel Pettit. > > 3. William b. ca 1728, d. 1811 wife Mary. > > Jonathan 1694-1774 married second wife Dinah & had several children. One was > named Jonathan b. 1742, d. 1816. I question why there would be another > Jonathan Robins by second wife Dinah when there was already a living son > Jonathan by first wife? You have done a lot of research on Jonathan & Dinah > Robins family. Does any of this make any sense to you? > > > Sara > [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 7:49 PM > > Thanks, Sara. > > Have the parents of Jonathan ROBINS Sr (d 1796) been determined (or at > least best-guessed at) ? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2089 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 18:02:37 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] County Borders (was: Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA) Message: The best (IMHO) site for USA county border creations/changes is: http://publications.newberry.org/ahcbp/ > Taken from: > http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/Geog/PA/PA-WashingtonCo-formation.html -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2090 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 19:23:39 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan ROBINS, d 1816 (was: John ROBINS, d 1789 Alexandria Twp) Message: Marshall, The ca. 1722 birth date for Jonathan from what I can see is an assumed one. I've found no evidence Jonathan Robins b. 1694 was married twice, just theory. I like your alternative theory on Jonathan 1742 as the grandson of Jonathan 1694. It makes sense & eliminates the need for the two Jonathan's born to Jonathan 1694. Was Dinah the only wife for Jonathan Robins 1694 & mother of all his children? What are your thoughts? Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 5:17 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan ROBINS, d 1816 (was: John ROBINS, d 1789 Alexandria Twp) I think your theory makes some sense, Sara. Like you, though, I question the two sons, both named Jonathan. A couple questions: Is the "b. ca 1722" based upon anything? Is there any evidence suggesting Jonathan ROBINS (b 1696) was married twice, or is it pure theory? How 'bout an alternative theory ... As far as I know the birthyear (1742) for the Jonathan ROBINS who died in 1816 is only a guess by another researcher. I've written to this other researcher more than once asking about the birthyear but he's never responded addressing it. I believe this birthyear was selected since it is presumed that this Jonathan is the son of Jonathan ROBINS (b 1696), and this birthyear makes it plausible. It is known that Mary HUFF (spouse of Jonathan ROBINS, d 1816) was born in 1764, give or take a year (based upon her headstone). So, based upon that, let's say Jonathan ROBINS (d 1816) was born c1760. I'd like to suggest that Jonathan ROBINS (d 1816) is the grandson of Jonathan ROBINS Sr (d 1796), and the son of Jonathan ROBINS Jr (d 1796). This theory eliminates the need for 2 Jonathans born of Jonathan ROBINS (b 1696). Charles Allen (RIP) believed that there was at least one generation between Jonathan ROBINS (d 1816) and Jonathan ROBINS (b 1696) based upon some circumstantial evidence posted here a while back when Charles was a member. What do you think? PS - Starting in the morning I'll be out of touch for a week or so (just in case you were expecting further responses). PPS - Just an FYI ... I don't see how to access past postings in this group. I've written the moderator for guidance. > Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 > Date: Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:42 am ((PST)) > > Marshall, > > This is a theory or best guessed. Jonathan Robins b. ca 1722, d. 1796 was > the son of Jonathan Robins b. 1694 Woodbridge, d. 1774 Hunterdon Co. & his > first wife (Name Unknown). In theory Jonathan 1694 -1774 & first wife had at > least three children. > > 1. Jonathan b. ca 1722, d. 1796 who had two sons by wife( Name Unknown), > Jonathan 1748-1796, wife ? & John 1751-1789, wife Elizabeth Green. > > 2. Deborah b. ca 1724 d. ? wife of Nathaniel Pettit. > > 3. William b. ca 1728, d. 1811 wife Mary. > > Jonathan 1694-1774 married second wife Dinah & had several children. One was > named Jonathan b. 1742, d. 1816. I question why there would be another > Jonathan Robins by second wife Dinah when there was already a living son > Jonathan by first wife? You have done a lot of research on Jonathan & Dinah > Robins family. Does any of this make any sense to you? > > > Sara > [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 7:49 PM > > Thanks, Sara. > > Have the parents of Jonathan ROBINS Sr (d 1796) been determined (or at > least best-guessed at) ? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2091 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-01-20 22:47:06 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] County Borders Message: Thanks Marshall! On 1/20/2018 7:02 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: ļæ½ The best (IMHO) site for USA county border creations/changes is: http://publications.newberry.org/ahcbp/ > Taken from: > http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/Geog/PA/PA-WashingtonCo-formation.html -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2092 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-21 06:45:25 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Tracey, Thatā€™s okay, itā€™s something I could do also. I think Iā€™ve got a better understanding of the 2 Vincent Robbins. There are so many coincidences: - George Washburnā€™s father, Jeremiah, moved to Kentucky. - Since thereā€™s no evidence of Isaac Robbinsā€™ family moving to Kentucky, Iā€™m guessing Asubia and George Washburn were married in Pennsylvania. - George Washburn was living in Kentucky during the Rev. War where he was a spy. - a Vincent G. Robbins of Ohio has a War of 1812 record, he was a spy. From the 1820 census for Clark, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 211101-01000 - This could be Vincentā€™s brother. Clark, Brown County, is where George Washburn was living in 1820. From the 1830 census for Union, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 0200001-000001 - Jamesā€™ age doesnā€™t match the 1820 census, but the 2 youngest sons match. Thanks, Garry From: tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 4:55 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Hi! Sorry for my abrupt reply earlier! I got interrupted and then had to step away! Garry--to get back to your comment about Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. He and the Vincent Robbins of Brown Ohio were two separate people. I'm convinced of that. I have not researched the Washburns so I can't comment on the George Washburn in Shelby Co. KY. I can tell you that Charity Ryker Robbins (widow of Vincent Robbins of KY/IN) was alive in the 1850 census and some of her children still living with her. Here is an abstract of that census: Name:Charity Robins [Charity Robbins] Age:79 Birth Year:abt 1771 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1850:Canaan, Jefferson, Indiana, USA Name Age James Robins 39 Nance Robins 28 Cyntha E Robins 6 John G Robins 4 Daniel Robins 2 Charity Robins 79 The children of Vincent and Charity were born between the years of 1788 and 1811 in Kentucky and Indiana. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his first wife (name not known yet) were born between the years 1807 and 1812 in Ohio. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his 2nd wife (Nancy Haynes) were born betwee n the years 1823 and 1835 in Ohio. I can also tell you that several researchers on the Web say that Vincent Robbins (husband of Charity) comes from a North Carolina Robbins family and I thoroughly believe it. Vincent is always mentioned in various sources (such as the Draper papers) as being with the Van Cleaves, the Boones (as in Daniel Boone's family), and others from the Yadkin Creek, Rowan Co NC area. Ironically, my father's family (surname Holmes) lived in Rowan Co. NC at the same time as these families and traveled to Kentucky and then Clark and Jefferson Cos Indiana. So I'm quite familiar with these Rowan Co. men! (My Robbins connection is on my mom's side. :-) ) Obviously, to really deliniate the two Vincent Robbins, it would be best to have a thoroughly sourced "time line" showing where each man was and when. I don't have that. But I am convinced they were two e ntirely separate people--between the overlapping birth years of their children in two different states and the fact that both wives were alive in 1850 convinces me! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2093 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-21 07:17:26 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Tracey, More coincidences: Kentucky Militia in the Frontier Wars 1794: Robbins, William died Sept. 25 Robbins, Vincent trans. Arnoldā€™s Spies Robbins, James trans. Arnoldā€™s Spies These names are the same as children of Isaac. Vincent was a spy in 1794 in Kentucky. Another Vincent Robbins was a spy in Ohio during the War of 1812. What are the odds? Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:45 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Tracey, Thatā€™s okay, itā€™s something I could do also. I think Iā€™ve got a better understanding of the 2 Vincent Robbins. There are so many coincidences: - George Washburnā€™s father, Jeremiah, moved to Kentucky. - Since thereā€™s no evidence of Isaac Robbinsā€™ family moving to Kentucky, Iā€™m guessing Asubia and George Washburn were married in Pennsylvania. - George Washburn was living in Kentucky during the Rev. War where he was a spy. - a Vincent G. Robbins of Ohio has a War of 1812 record, he was a spy. From the 1820 census for Clark, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 211101-01000 - This could be Vincentā€™s brother. Clark, Brown County, is where George Washburn was living in 1820. From the 1830 census for Union, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 0200001-000001 - Jamesā€™ age doesnā€™t match the 1820 census, but the 2 youngest sons match. Thanks, Garry From: tracey.marcelo@gmail.com [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 4:55 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Hi! Sorry for my abrupt reply earlier! I got interrupted and then had to step away! Garry--to get back to your comment about Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. He and the Vincent Robbins of Brown Ohio were two separate people.. I'm convinced of that. I have not researched the Washburns so I can't comment on the George Washburn in Shelby Co. KY. I can tell you that Charity Ryker Robbins (widow of Vincent Robbins of KY/IN) was alive in the 1850 census and some of her children still living with her. Here is an abstract of that census: Name:Charity Robins [Charity Robbins] Age:79 Birth Year:abt 1771 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1850:Canaan, Jefferson, Indiana, USA Name Age James Robins 39 Nance Robins 28 Cyntha E Robins 6 John G Robins 4 Daniel Robins 2 Charity Robins 79 The children of Vincent and Charity were born between the years of 1788 and 1811 in Kentucky and Indiana. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his first wife (name not known yet) were born between the years 1807 and 1812 in Ohio. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his 2nd wife (Nancy Haynes) were born betwee n the years 1823 and 1835 in Ohio. I can also tell you that several researchers on the Web say that Vincent Robbins (husband of Charity) comes from a North Carolina Robbins family and I thoroughly believe it. Vincent is always mentioned in various sources (such as the Draper papers) as being with the Van Cleaves, the Boones (as in Daniel Boone's family), and others from the Yadkin Creek, Rowan Co NC area. Ironically, my father's family (surname Holmes) lived in Rowan Co. NC at the same time as these families and traveled to Kentucky and then Clark and Jefferson Cos Indiana. So I'm quite familiar with these Rowan Co. men! (My Robbins connection is on my mom's side. :-) ) Obviously, to really deliniate the two Vincent Robbins, it would be best to have a thoroughly sourced "time line" showing where each man was and when. I don't have that. But I am convinced they were two e ntirely separate people--between the overlapping birth years of their children in two different states and the fact that both wives were alive in 1850 convinces me! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2094 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-21 07:39:50 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Tracey, A personal history you might find interesting. I have an ancestor who was born in Massachusetts about 1775. He moved to Ontario where he joined the British forces in the 1790ā€™s. He married a British officerā€™s daughter and settled in Ontario. During the War of 181 2, he left his wife in Ontario and returned to the US where he enlisted in the US forces. At the close of the War he married a woman in Maine, but left her a short time later and moved to Quebec where he married again and raised a large family. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:17 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Tracey, More coincidences: Kentucky Militia in the Frontier Wars 1794: Robbins, William died Sept. 25 Robbins, Vincent trans. Arnoldā€™s Spies Robbins, James trans. Arnoldā€™s Spies These names are the same as children of Isaac. Vincent was a spy in 1794 in Kentucky. Another Vincent Robbins was a spy in Ohio during the War of 1812. What are the odds? Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:45 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Tracey, Thatā€™s okay, itā€™s something I could do also. I think Iā€™ve got a better understanding of the 2 Vincent Robbins. There are so many coincidences: - George Washburnā€™s father, Jeremiah, moved to Kentucky. - Since thereā€™s no evidence of Isaac Robbinsā€™ family moving to Kentucky, Iā€™m guessing Asubia and George Washburn were married in Pennsylvania. - George Washburn was living in Kentucky during the Rev. War where he was a spy. - a Vincent G. Robbins of Ohio has a War of 1812 record, he was a spy. From the 1820 census for Clark, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 211101-01000 - This could be Vincentā€™s brother. Clark, Brown County, is where George Washburn was living in 1820. From the 1830 census for Union, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 0200001-000001 - Jamesā€™ age doesnā€™t match the 1820 census, but the 2 youngest sons match. Thanks, Garry From: tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 4:55 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Hi! Sorry for my abrupt reply earlier! I got interrupted and then had to step away! Garry--to get back to your comment about Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. He and the Vincent Robbins of Brown Ohio were two separate people... I'm convinced of that. I have not researched the Washburns so I can't comment on the George Washburn in Shelby Co. KY. I can tell you that Charity Ryker Robbins (widow of Vincent Robbins of KY/IN) was alive in the 1850 census and some of her children still living with her. Here is an abstract of that census: Name:Charity Robins [Charity Robbins] Age:79 Birth Year:abt 1771 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1850:Canaan, Jefferson, Indiana, USA Name Age James Robins 39 Nance Robins 28 Cyntha E Robins 6 John G Robins 4 Daniel Robins 2 Charity Robins 79 The children of Vincent and Charity were born between the years of 1788 and 1811 in Kentucky and Indiana. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his first wife (name not known yet) were born between the years 1807 and 1812 in Ohio. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his 2nd wife (Nancy Haynes) were born betwee n the years 1823 and 1835 in Ohio. I can also tell you that several researchers on the Web say that Vincent Robbins (husband of Charity) comes from a North Carolina Robbins family and I thoroughly believe it. Vincent is always mentioned in various sources (such as the Draper papers) as being with the Van Cleaves, the Boones (as in Daniel Boone's family), and others from the Yadkin Creek, Rowan Co NC area. Ironically, my father's family (surname Holmes) lived in Rowan Co. NC at the same time as these families and traveled to Kentucky and then Clark and Jefferson Cos Indiana. So I'm quite familiar with these Rowan Co. men! (My Robbins connection is on my mom's side. :-) ) Obviously, to really deliniate the two Vincent Robbins, it would be best to have a thoroughly sourced "time line" showing where each man was and when. I don't have that. But I am convinced they were two e ntirely separate people--between the overlapping birth years of their children in two different states and the fact that both wives were alive in 1850 convinces me! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2095 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-01-21 14:26:35 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Wow! I've learned a lot about Canada geography and history and it's been really interesting. But gee 3 different wives huh? And I suppose no official divorce records? Did it take you awhile to determine that it was all the same guy in all those different places?? Tracey On 1/21/2018 8:39 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, A personal history you might find interesting. I have an ancestor who was born in Massachusetts about 1775. He moved to Ontario where he joined the British forces in the 1790ā€™s. He married a British officerā€™s daughter and settled in Ontario. During the War of 1812, he left his wife in Ontario and returned to the US where he enlisted in the US forces. At the close of the War he married a woman in Maine, but left her a short time later and moved to Quebec where he married again and raised a large family. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:17 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Tracey, More coincidences: Kentucky Militia in the Frontier Wars 1794: Robbins, William died Sept. 25 Robbins, Vincent trans. Arnoldā€™s Spies Robbins, James trans. Arnoldā€™s Spies These names are the same as children of Isaac. Vincent was a spy in 1794 in Kentucky. Another Vincent Robbins was a spy in Ohio during the War of 1812. What are the odds? Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:45 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Tracey, Thatā€™s okay, itā€™s something I could do also. I think Iā€™ve got a better understanding of the 2 Vincent Robbins. There are so many coincidences: - George Washburnā€™s father, Jeremiah, moved to Kentucky. - Since thereā€™s no evidence of Isaac Robbinsā€™ family moving to Kentucky, Iā€™m guessing Asubia and George Washburn were married in Pennsylvania. - George Washburn was living in Kentucky during the Rev. War where he was a spy. - a Vincent G. Robbins of Ohio has a War of 1812 record, he was a spy. From the 1820 census for Clark, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 211101-01000 - This could be Vincentā€™s brother. Clark, Brown County, is where George Washburn was living in 1820. From the 1830 census for Union, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 0200001-000001 - Jamesā€™ age doesnā€™t match the 1820 census, but the 2 youngest sons match. Thanks, Garry From: tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 4:55 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Hi! Sorry for my abrupt reply earlier! I got interrupted and then had to step away! Garry--to get back to your comment about Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. He and the Vincent Robbins of Brown Ohio were two separate people.... I'm convinced of that. I have not researched the Washburns so I can't comment on the George Washburn in Shelby Co. KY. I can tell you that Charity Ryker Robbins (widow of Vincent Robbins of KY/IN) was alive in the 1850 census and some of her children still living with her. Here is an abstract of that census: Name:Charity Robins [Charity Robbins] Age:79 Birth Year:abt 1771 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1850:Canaan, Jefferson, Indiana, USA Name Age James Robins 39 Nance Robins 28 Cyntha E Robins 6 John G Robins 4 Daniel Robins 2 Charity Robins 79 The children of Vincent and Charity were born between the years of 1788 and 1811 in Kentucky and Indiana. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his first wife (name not known yet) were born between the years 1807 and 1812 in Ohio. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his 2nd wife (Nancy Haynes) were born between the years 1823 and 1835 in Ohio. I can also tell you that several researchers on the Web say that Vincent Robbins (husband of Charity) comes from a North Carolina Robbins family and I thoroughly believe it. Vincent is always mentioned in various sources (such as the Draper papers) as being with the Van Cleaves, the Boones (as in Daniel Boone's family), and others from the Yadkin Creek, Rowan Co NC area. Ironically, my father's family (surname Holmes) lived in Rowan Co. NC at the same time as these families and traveled to Kentucky and then Clark and Jefferson Cos Indiana. So I'm quite familiar with these Rowan Co. men! (My Robbins connection is on my mom's side. :-) ) Obviously, to really deliniate the two Vincent Robbins, it would be best to have a thoroughly sourced "time line" showing where each man was and when. I don't have that. But I am convinced they were two e ntirely separate people--between the overlapping birth years of their children in two different states and the fact that both wives were alive in 1850 convinces me! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2096 Sender:crisrobbins@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-21 18:34:39 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Hi Tracey and Gary, Thanks so much for the Vincent Robbins debate. I am so thrilled that you both have given it your attention. Gary here is some information about Vincent being in Kentucky from a Draper paper concerning William Grant: Draper MS 17s George Washburn was in some Indian fights--used to speak of Crawford's campaign--settled Salt River Ky. and was one of the party there who pursued the Indians who captured Miss Van Cleve and found her murdered body, al l dressed in her white Sunday clothing. At another time, one George Bolling was killed in that region--he had gone to a neighbors to ge a pair of shoes for his mother and returning was killed at the rear of a field, his head cut off, and his heart cut out--when hearing whites approaching (George Washburn, his brother-in-law Vincent Robbins, and a negro) so hastily decamped that they left the heart and several silver cups upon a log. W ashburn, Robbins carried his dead body and the negro was directed to carry the---P.125--- dissevered head and looking back they found him carrying it by one ear! So Geo. Washburn must have lived on Salt River during the Indian War which closed in 1795, while his parents and brothers resided on the Ohio River in Mason Co., Ky. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2097 Sender:crisrobbins@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-21 18:57:44 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Gary, From the 1820 census for Clark, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 211101-01000 - This could be Vincentā€™s brother. Clark, Brown County, is where George Washburn was living in 1820. To be honest with James I am not 100% sure where he fits in with Vincent. Here is his marraige record : James Ralins Gender Male Marriage Date 25 Dec 1823 Marriage Place Brown, Ohio, USA Spouse Cynthia Lucas Film Number 000384273 Upon further review on the Brown county record the last name Was Robbins instead of Ralins. She is the daughter of Robinson Lucas and Mary Prickett. James age changes from the 1820 and 1830 census but I believe he was born in the 1780-1790 time frame. He died in 1836 in Union Brown County Ohio. Son of Vincent and Ann kitchen Robbins Obediah also had a son James. http://www.tbgen.com/hodgkins/children.html http://www.tbgen.com/hodgkins/children.html Susannah Hodgkins - married Obadiah Robbins, son of Vincent Robbins and Ann Kitchen. We have marriage date of July 1776 in New Jersey. See Washburn, Robbins and other families http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/i gm.cgi?op=GET&db=law&id=I01890 for more on the Robbins family. Robbins (spelled Robans and Robins in the will): Amos Robbins Samuel Robbins Ezekiel Robbins William Robbins John Robbins Hannah Robbins James Robbins Wright: Elizabeth Wright wife of George Wright - we believe this is the Elizabeth Robbins, daughter of Susannah Hodgkins and Obadiah Robbins. See Travis LeMasters website http://www.angelfire.com/rant/travislemaster/wright.fami lypage.html for more on George Wright's family. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2098 Sender:Cris Robbins Post Date/Time:2018-01-21 19:11:40 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Tracey / Gary Obediah Robbins and Susannah Hodgkins Robbins Children living in Washington Twp. Brown County: William Robbins marries Mary Drake in 1822 in Brown C. BIRTH 9/10/1787 DEATH 4/12/1850 ā€¢ Vance Family Cemetery Brown County, Ohio, USA Geroge Wright marries Elizabeth Robins 1/27/1812 in Adams Co. BIRTH 16 JUL 1781 ā€¢ Pennsylvania, Somerset, Pennsylvania, United States DEATH 22 NOV 1857 ā€¢ Washington, Brown, Ohio, United States 27 Jan 1812 ā€¢ Adams, Ohio, United States John Robbins BIRTH 1798 ā€¢ Pennsylvania DEATH Washington Township, Brown County On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 8:58:24 PM EST, crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Gary, From the 1820 census for Clark, Brown County, OH:Robins, James 211101-01000- This could be Vincentā€™s brother. Clark, Brown County, is where George Washburn was living in 1820. To be honest with James I am not 100% sure where he fits in with Vincent. Here is his marraige record : | James Ralins | | Gender | Male | | Marriage Date | 25 Dec 1823 | | Marriage Place | Brown, Ohio, USA | | Spouse | Cynthia Lucas | | Film Number | 000384273 | Upon further review on the Brown county record the last name Was Robbins instead of Ralins. She is the daughter of Robinson Lucas and Mary Prickett. James age changes from the 1820 and 1830 census but I believe he was born in the 1780-1790 time frame. He died in 1836 in Union Brown County Ohio. Son of Vincent and Ann kitchen Robbins Obediah also had a son James. http://www.tbgen.com/hodgkins/children.html Susannah Hodgkins - married Obadiah Robbins, son of Vincent Robbins and Ann Kitchen. We have marriage date of July 1776 in New Jersey. See Washburn, Robbins and other families for more on the Robbins family. Robbins (spelled Robans and Robins in the will): Amos Robbins Samuel Robbins Ezekiel Robbins William Robbins John Robbins Hannah Robbins James Robbins Wright: Elizabeth Wright wife of George Wright - we believe this is the Elizabeth Robbins, daughter of Susannah Hodgkins and Obadiah Robbins. 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No one had suggested such a story. It evolved as I did the research. Iā€™ve spent many hours of research on this ancestor. He was quite a character. When he left Ontario/Upper Canada during the War of 1812, he wouldnā€™t have been concerned about getting a divorce. He guided a friend to the US where the friend joined the US forces in New York, and was declared a trai tor in Canada. My ancestor wasnā€™t declared a traitor, probably because he continued on to Vermont, where his family had moved years earlier. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 4:26 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Wow! I've learned a lot about Canada geography and history and it's been really interesting. But gee 3 different wives huh? And I suppose no official divorce records? Did it take you awhile to determine that it was all the same guy in all those different places?? Tracey On 1/21/2018 8:39 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, A personal history you might find interesting. I have an ancestor who was born in Massachusetts about 1775. He moved to Ontario where he joined the British forces in the 1790ā€™s. He married a British officerā€™s daughter and settled in Ontario. During the War of 1 812, he left his wife in Ontario and returned to the US where he enlisted in the US forces. At the close of the War he married a woman in Maine, but left her a short time later and moved to Quebec where he married agai n and raised a large family. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:17 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Tracey, More coincidences: Kentucky Militia in the Frontier Wars 1794: Robbins, William died Sept. 25 Robbins, Vincent trans. Arnoldā€™s Spies Robbins, James trans. Arnoldā€™s Spies These names are the same as children of Isaac. Vincent was a spy in 1794 in Kentucky. Another Vincent Robbins was a spy in Ohio during the War of 1812. What are the odds? Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:45 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Tracey, Thatā€™s okay, itā€™s something I could do also. I think Iā€™ve got a better understanding of the 2 Vincent Robbins. There are so many coincidences: - George Washburnā€™s father, Jeremiah, moved to Kentucky. - Since thereā€™s no evidence of Isaac Robbinsā€™ family moving to Kentucky, Iā€™m guessing Asubia and George Washburn were married in Pennsylvania. - George Washburn was living in Kentucky during the Rev. War where he was a spy. - a Vincent G. Robbins of Ohio has a War of 1812 record, he was a spy. From the 1820 census for Clark, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 211101-01000 - This could be Vincentā€™s brother. Clark, Brown County, is where George Washburn was living in 1820. From the 1830 census for Union, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 0200001-000001 - Jamesā€™ age doesnā€™t match the 1820 census, but the 2 youngest sons match. Thanks, Garry From: tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 4:55 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Hi! Sorry for my abrupt reply earlier! I got interrupted and then had to step away! Garry--to get back to your comment about Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. He and the Vincent Robbins of Brown Ohio were two separate people.... I'm convinced of that. I have not researched the Washburns so I can't comment on the George Washburn in Shelby Co. KY. I can tell you that Charity Ryker Robbins (widow of Vincent Robbins of KY/IN) was alive in the 1850 census and some of her children still living with her. Here is an abstract of that census: Name:Charity Robins [Charity Robbins] Age:79 Birth Year:abt 1771 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1850:Canaan, Jefferson, Indiana, USA Name Age James Robins 39 Nance Robins 28 Cyntha E Robins 6 John G Robins 4 Daniel Robins 2 Charity Robins 79 The children of Vincent and Charity were born between the years of 1788 and 1811 in Kentucky and Indiana. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his first wife (name not known yet) were born between the years 1807 and 1812 in Ohio. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his 2nd wife (Nancy Haynes) were born betw een the years 1823 and 1835 in Ohio. I can also tell you that several researchers on the Web say that Vincent Robbins (husband of Charity) comes from a North Carolina Robbins family and I thoroughly believe it. Vincent is always mentioned in various sources (such as the Draper papers) as being with the Van Cleaves, the Boones (as in Daniel Boone's family), and others from the Yadkin Creek, Rowan Co NC area. Ironically, my father's family (surname Holmes) lived in Rowan Co. NC at the same time as these families and traveled to Kentucky and then Clark and Jefferson Cos Indiana. So I'm quite familiar with these Rowan Co. me n! (My Robbins connection is on my mom's side. :-) ) Obviously, to really deliniate the two Vincent Robbins, it would be best to have a thoroughly sourced "time line" showing where each man was and when. I don't have that. But I am convinced they were two e ntirely separate people--between the overlapping birth years of their children in two different states and the fact that both wives were alive in 1850 convinces me! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2100 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-22 08:30:48 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Cris, From the 1830 census for Scott Twp, Brown County, OH: Robins, Nancy 201 ā€“ 120111 From Brown County, Ohio History: John W. Robbins, farmer, was born in Scott Township December 5, 1830; he was a son of Vincent Robbins, who was twice married, his second wife being Nancy Haynes ... Four children were the issue of the first marriage, an d seven of the second; of the latter our subject was the sixth. His father died when he was a boy, and he remained with his mother. What do you make of this? - During the census, Nancy is living without Vincent. - During the census, Nancy is pregnant with John. - Vincent and Nancy have one more child after John, which means Vincent is in the area in 1830 or returns - Vincent doesnā€™t appear in census records in 1830 or 1840, yet he is in Brown County in 1847 when the land record is written. - the census record matches the history article for children born to Vincent and Nancy, 7 total, 5 by the 1830 census. Garry From: crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:57 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Gary, From the 1820 census for Clark, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 211101-01000 - This could be Vincentā€™s brother. Clark, Brown County, is where George Washburn was living in 1820. To be honest with James I am not 100% sure where he fits in with Vincent. Here is his marraige record : James Ralins Gender Male Marriage Date 25 Dec 1823 Marriage Place Brown, Ohio, USA Spouse Cynthia Lucas Film Number 000384273 Upon further review on the Brown county record the last name Was Robbins instead of Ralins. She is the daughter of Robinson Lucas and Mary Prickett. James age changes from the 1820 and 1830 census but I believe he was born in the 1780-1790 time frame. He died in 1836 in Union Brown County Ohio. Son of Vincent and Ann kitchen Robbins Obediah also had a son James. http://www.tbgen.com/hodgkins/children.html Susannah Hodgkins - married Obadiah Robbins, son of Vincent Robbins and Ann Kitchen. We have marriage date of July 1776 in New Jersey. See Washburn, Robbins and other families for more on the Robbins family. Robbins (spelled Robans and Robins in the will): Amos Robbins Samuel Robbins Ezekiel Robbins William Robbins John Robbins Hannah Robbins James Robbins Wright: Elizabeth Wright wife of George Wright - we believe this is the Elizabeth Robbins, daughter of Susannah Hodgkins and Obadiah Robbins. See Travis LeMasters website for more on George Wright's family. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2101 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-22 10:34:48 Subject:Re: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Cris, You may already have this. From the 1850 census for Jackson, Clermont County, OH: Robins, Nancy 52 PA Alexander 29 Farmer OH Margaret A. 22 " John W. 19 Blacksmith " Sarah C. 15 " Morse, Emry E. 1 " Fryman, James 12 " From the 1860 census for Concord, Iroquois County, IL: Robins, Alex'r 45 Farming OH Sarah 24 " Nancy 63 PA Nancy J. 6 OH Nancy H. 6 " Mary A. 4 " Margaret 1 " From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 10:30 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Cris, From the 1830 census for Scott Twp, Brown County, OH: Robins, Nancy 201 ā€“ 120111 From Brown County, Ohio History: John W. Robbins, farmer, was born in Scott Township December 5, 1830; he was a son of Vincent Robbins, who was twice married, his second wife being Nancy Haynes ... Four children were the issue of the first marriage, an d seven of the second; of the latter our subject was the sixth. His father died when he was a boy, and he remained with his mother. What do you make of this? - During the census, Nancy is living without Vincent. - During the census, Nancy is pregnant with John. - Vincent and Nancy have one more child after John, which means Vincent is in the area in 1830 or returns - Vincent doesnā€™t appear in census records in 1830 or 1840, yet he is in Brown County in 1847 when the land record is written. - the census record matches the history article for children born to Vincent and Nancy, 7 total, 5 by the 1830 census. Garry From: crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:57 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Gary, From the 1820 census for Clark, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 211101-01000 - This could be Vincentā€™s brother. Clark, Brown County, is where George Washburn was living in 1820. To be honest with James I am not 100% sure where he fits in with Vincent. Here is his marraige record : James Ralins Gender Male Marriage Date 25 Dec 1823 Marriage Place Brown, Ohio, USA Spouse Cynthia Lucas Film Number 000384273 Upon further review on the Brown county record the last name Was Robbins instead of Ralins. She is the daughter of Robinson Lucas and Mary Prickett. James age changes from the 1820 and 1830 census but I believe he was born in the 1780-1790 time frame. He died in 1836 in Union Brown County Ohio. Son of Vincent and Ann kitchen Robbins Obediah also had a son James. http://www.tbgen.com/hodgkins/children.html Susannah Hodgkins - married Obadiah Robbins, son of Vincent Robbins and Ann Kitchen. We have marriage date of July 1776 in New Jersey. See Washburn, Robbins and other families for more on the Robbins family. Robbins (spelled Robans and Robins in the will): Amos Robbins Samuel Robbins Ezekiel Robbins William Robbins John Robbins Hannah Robbins James Robbins Wright: Elizabeth Wright wife of George Wright - we believe this is the Elizabeth Robbins, daughter of Susannah Hodgkins and Obadiah Robbins. See Travis LeMasters website for more on George Wright's family. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2102 Sender:Cris Robbins Post Date/Time:2018-01-22 13:22:07 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Hi Gary, Vincent is on record living in Eagle, B.County in 1820 with 4 children. He marries Nancy Moore in 1822 and moves to her land in Scott Twp. B. County. There neighbors were the John Barngrover and George Bingaman who play ed a huge role in 3 out of 4 of Vincent's first children's lives. Peter 1810 Robbins married Elizabeth Barngrover who's mother was Margaret Bingaman Barngrover. Azubia Robbins married Roderick McKenzie who's mother wa s Barbra Coon McKenzie Bingaman. First husband George Wesley McKenzie died around 1812. She married George Bingaman in 1814. Another sister Ellen Robbins marries Henry H. Bingaman nephew of George Bingaman. Vincent Jr. 1808 marries Susan Stratton who's family came from Pennsylvania. I was surprised to see a record of Vincent being alive in 1847, since the 1820 Census he has been a ghost. On that Biography of John W. Robb ins there was the Haynes reference and perhaps she was married to a Haynes before Vincent. She had a child Alexander born in 1820-1821 before wedlock to Vincent in 1822. Vincent Sr. sister died Azubia Washburn in 1830 a nd George Washburn remarried a couple years later. Perhaps Vincent helped move George to Indiana during the 1834-1835 period. I read on a Dover, Mason County Kentucky http://www.nkyviews.com/mason/pdf/dover_part_1.pdf historical page about the arrival of 1785 Jeremiah Washburn. Here are a couple of Tax records on George Washburn : | Name: | George Washburn | | State: | KY | | County: | Shelby County | | Township: | No Township Listed | | Year: | 1795 | | Name: | George Washburn | | Residence County: | Bracken | | Residence Year: | 1799 The Shelby County record is the only record that put's him in area where Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker were in the same area. In the History of Brown County book they stated that the George and Azubia Washburn came across the River from Kentucky to Clark area Brown county around 1800. Cris Robbins | On Monday, January 22, 2018, 10:42:26 AM EST, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Cris, From the 1830 census for Scott Twp, Brown County, OH:Robins, Nancy 201 ā€“ 120111 From Brown County, Ohio History:John W. Robbins, farmer, was born in Scott Township December 5, 1830; he was a son of Vincent Robbins, who was twice married, his second wife being Nancy Haynes ... Four children were the issue of the first marriage, and seven of the second; of the latter our subject was the sixth. His father died wh en he was a boy, and he remained with his mother. What do you make of this?- During the census, Nancy is living without Vincent.- During the census, Nancy is pregnant with John.- Vincent and Nancy have one more child after John, which means Vincent is in the area in 1830 or returns- Vincent doesnā€™t appear in census records in 1830 or 1840, yet he is in Brown County in 1847 when the land record is written.- the census re cord matches the history article for children born to Vincent and Nancy, 7 total, 5 by the 1830 census. Garry From: crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:57 PMTo: robbinsfamilysociety@y ahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Gary, From the 1820 census for Clark, Brown County, OH:Robins, James 211101-01000- This could be Vincentā€™s brother. Clark, Brown County, is where George Washburn was living in 1820. To be honest wit h James I am not 100% sure where he fits in with Vincent. Here is his marraige record : | James Ralins | | Gender | Male | | Marriage Date | 25 Dec 1823 | | Marriage Place | Brown, Ohio, USA | | Spouse | Cynthia Lucas | | Film Number | 000384273 | Upon further review on the Brown county record the last name Was Robbins instead of Ralins. She is the daughter of Robinson Lucas and Mary Prickett. James age changes from the 1820 and 1830 census but I believe he was born in the 1780-1790 time frame. He died in 1836 in Union Brown County Ohio. Son of Vincent and Ann kitchen Robbins Obediah also had a son James. http://www.tbgen.com/hodgkins/children.html Susannah Hodgkins - married Obadiah Robbins, son of Vincent Robbins and Ann Kitchen. We have marriage date of July 1776 in New Jersey. See Washburn, Robbins and other families for more on the Robbins family. Robbins (spelled Robans and Robins in the will): Amos Robbins Samuel Robbins Ezekiel Robbins William Robbins John Robbins Hannah Robbins James Robbins Wright: Elizabeth Wright wife of George Wright - we believe this is the Elizabeth Robbins, daughter of Susannah Hodgkins and Obadiah Robbins. 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Iā€™ve made many errors in my research but sometimes I get it right. Last winter, I had my NSSAR application approved for the father of the ancestor I mentioned. Fortunately, I didnā€™t have to write a biography. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 4:26 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Wow! I've learned a lot about Canada geography and history and it's been really interesting. But gee 3 different wives huh? And I suppose no official divorce records? Did it take you awhile to determine that it was all the same guy in all those different places?? Tracey On 1/21/2018 8:39 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@netflash.net [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, A personal history you might find interesting. I have an ancestor who was born in Massachusetts about 1775. He moved to Ontario where he joined the British forces in the 1790ā€™s. He married a British officerā€™s daughter and settled in Ontario. During the War of 1 812, he left his wife in Ontario and returned to the US where he enlisted in the US forces. At the close of the War he married a woman in Maine, but left her a short time later and moved to Quebec where he married agai n and raised a large family. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:17 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Tracey, More coincidences: Kentucky Militia in the Frontier Wars 1794: Robbins, William died Sept. 25 Robbins, Vincent trans. Arnoldā€™s Spies Robbins, James trans. Arnoldā€™s Spies These names are the same as children of Isaac. Vincent was a spy in 1794 in Kentucky. Another Vincent Robbins was a spy in Ohio during the War of 1812. What are the odds? Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:45 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Tracey, Thatā€™s okay, itā€™s something I could do also. I think Iā€™ve got a better understanding of the 2 Vincent Robbins. There are so many coincidences: - George Washburnā€™s father, Jeremiah, moved to Kentucky. - Since thereā€™s no evidence of Isaac Robbinsā€™ family moving to Kentucky, Iā€™m guessing Asubia and George Washburn were married in Pennsylvania. - George Washburn was living in Kentucky during the Rev. War where he was a spy. - a Vincent G. Robbins of Ohio has a War of 1812 record, he was a spy. From the 1820 census for Clark, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 211101-01000 - This could be Vincentā€™s brother. Clark, Brown County, is where George Washburn was living in 1820. From the 1830 census for Union, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 0200001-000001 - Jamesā€™ age doesnā€™t match the 1820 census, but the 2 youngest sons match. Thanks, Garry From: tracey.marcelo@gmail.com [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 4:55 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Hi! Sorry for my abrupt reply earlier! I got interrupted and then had to step away! Garry--to get back to your comment about Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. He and the Vincent Robbins of Brown Ohio were two separate people.... I'm convinced of that. I have not researched the Washburns so I can't comment on the George Washburn in Shelby Co. KY. I can tell you that Charity Ryker Robbins (widow of Vincent Robbins of KY/IN) was alive in the 1850 census and some of her children still living with her. Here is an abstract of that census: Name:Charity Robins [Charity Robbins] Age:79 Birth Year:abt 1771 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1850:Canaan, Jefferson, Indiana, USA Name Age James Robins 39 Nance Robins 28 Cyntha E Robins 6 John G Robins 4 Daniel Robins 2 Charity Robins 79 The children of Vincent and Charity were born between the years of 1788 and 1811 in Kentucky and Indiana. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his first wife (name not known yet) were born between the years 1807 and 1812 in Ohio. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his 2nd wife (Nancy Haynes) were born betw een the years 1823 and 1835 in Ohio. I can also tell you that several researchers on the Web say that Vincent Robbins (husband of Charity) comes from a North Carolina Robbins family and I thoroughly believe it. Vincent is always mentioned in various sources (such as the Draper papers) as being with the Van Cleaves, the Boones (as in Daniel Boone's family), and others from the Yadkin Creek, Rowan Co NC area. Ironically, my father's family (surname Holmes) lived in Rowan Co. NC at the same time as these families and traveled to Kentucky and then Clark and Jefferson Cos Indiana. So I'm quite familiar with these Rowan Co. me n! (My Robbins connection is on my mom's side. :-) ) Obviously, to really deliniate the two Vincent Robbins, it would be best to have a thoroughly sourced "time line" showing where each man was and when. I don't have that. But I am convinced they were two e ntirely separate people--between the overlapping birth years of their children in two different states and the fact that both wives were alive in 1850 convinces me! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2104 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-23 04:31:05 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Cris, Iā€™m curious about the Isaac/Vincent Robbins land transaction in Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA, in 1797. I was thinking about Vincent fathering has last child with Nancy in 1833 ā€“ 1834. If this is indeed Vincent, son of Isaac, who was no longer a minor in 1783, then he would have been 70 + years old. Iā€™ve googled this mo rning and see that itā€™s possible. I wonder if Vincent became distrustful of the census or if he continued to be adventurous and didnā€™t spend much time at home. Garry From: Cris Robbins crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 3:22 PM To: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Hi Gary, Vincent is on record living in Eagle, B.County in 1820 with 4 children. He marries Nancy Moore in 1822 and moves to her land in Scott Twp. B. County. There neighbors were the John Barngrover and George Bingaman who play ed a huge role in 3 out of 4 of Vincent's first children's lives. Peter 1810 Robbins married Elizabeth Barngrover who's mother was Margaret Bingaman Barngrover. Azubia Robbins married Roderick McKenzie who's mother wa s Barbra Coon McKenzie Bingaman. First husband George Wesley McKenzie died around 1812. She married George Bingaman in 1814. Another sister Ellen Robbins marries Henry H. Bingaman nephew of George Bingaman. Vincent Jr. 1808 marries Susan Stratton who's family came from Pennsylvania. I was surprised to see a record of Vincent being alive in 1847, since the 1820 Census he has been a ghost. On that Biography of John W. Robb ins there was the Haynes reference and perhaps she was married to a Haynes before Vincent. She had a child Alexander born in 1820-1821 before wedlock to Vincent in 1822. Vincent Sr. sister died Azubia Washburn in 1830 a nd George Washburn remarried a couple years later. Perhaps Vincent helped move George to Indiana during the 1834-1835 period. I read on a Dover, Mason County Kentucky http://www.nkyviews.com/mason/pdf/dover_part_1.pdf historical page about the arrival of 1785 Jeremiah Washburn. Here are a couple of Tax records on George Washburn : Name: George Washburn State: KY County: Shelby County Township: No Township Listed Year: 1795 Name: George Washburn Residence County: Bracken Residence Year: 1799 The Shelby County record is the only record that put's him in area where Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker were in the same area. In the History of Brown County book they stated that the George and Azubia Washburn came across the River from Kentucky to Clark area Brown county around 1800. Cris Robbins On Monday, January 22, 2018, 10:42:26 AM EST, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@netflash.net [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Cris, From the 1830 census for Scott Twp, Brown County, OH: Robins, Nancy 201 ā€“ 120111 From Brown County, Ohio History: John W. Robbins, farmer, was born in Scott Township December 5, 1830; he was a son of Vincent Robbins, who was twice married, his second wife being Nancy Haynes ... Four children were the issue of the first marriage, an d seven of the second; of the latter our subject was the sixth. His father died when he was a boy, and he remained with his mother. What do you make of this? - During the census, Nancy is living without Vincent. - During the census, Nancy is pregnant with John. - Vincent and Nancy have one more child after John, which means Vincent is in the area in 1830 or returns - Vincent doesnā€™t appear in census records in 1830 or 1840, yet he is in Brown County in 1847 when the land record is written. - the census record matches the history article for children born to Vincent and Nancy, 7 total, 5 by the 1830 census. Garry From: crisrobbins@ymail.com [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:57 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Gary, From the 1820 census for Clark, Brown County, OH: Robins, James 211101-01000 - This could be Vincentā€™s brother. Clark, Brown County, is where George Washburn was living in 1820. To be honest with James I am not 100% sure where he fits in with Vincent. Here is his marraige record : James Ralins Gender Male Marriage Date 25 Dec 1823 Marriage Place Brown, Ohio, USA Spouse Cynthia Lucas Film Number 000384273 Upon further review on the Brown county record the last name Was Robbins instead of Ralins. She is the daughter of Robinson Lucas and Mary Prickett. James age changes from the 1820 and 1830 census but I believe he was born in the 1780-1790 time frame. He died in 1836 in Union Brown County Ohio. Son of Vincent and Ann kitchen Robbins Obediah also had a son James. http://www.tbgen.com/hodgkins/children.html Susannah Hodgkins - married Obadiah Robbins, son of Vincent Robbins and Ann Kitchen. We have marriage date of July 1776 in New Jersey. See Washburn, Robbins and other families for more on the Robbins family. Robbins (spelled Robans and Robins in the will): Amos Robbins Samuel Robbins Ezekiel Robbins William Robbins John Robbins Hannah Robbins James Robbins Wright: Elizabeth Wright wife of George Wright - we believe this is the Elizabeth Robbins, daughter of Susannah Hodgkins and Obadiah Robbins. See Travis LeMasters website for more on George Wright's family. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2105 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-24 05:26:20 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Tracey, It seems the 1850 census age for James Robins is incorrect. James W. Robbins was born 16 Aug, 1820 in Jefferson County, IN, the son of William Robbins born 19 Nov, 1794 in Shelby County, KY, the son of Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. James was married 20 Jan, 1841 in Jeffers on County, IN. The dates are from ancestry.com. From the 1860 census for Washington, Van Buren County, IA: Robbins, James W. 39 Farmer IN Nancy 38 KY Cynthia E. 16 IN John G. 14 " Daniel 12 " Archibald 8 " William 4 " Mary F. 2 IA Garry From: tracey.marcelo@gmail.com [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 4:55 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Hi! Sorry for my abrupt reply earlier! I got interrupted and then had to step away! Garry--to get back to your comment about Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. He and the Vincent Robbins of Brown Ohio were two separate people. I'm convinced of that. I have not researched the Washburns so I can't comment on the George Washburn in Shelby Co. KY. I can tell you that Charity Ryker Robbins (widow of Vincent Robbins of KY/IN) was alive in the 1850 census and some of her children still living with her. Here is an abstract of that census: Name:Charity Robins [Charity Robbins] Age:79 Birth Year:abt 1771 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1850:Canaan, Jefferson, Indiana, USA Name Age James Robins 39 Nance Robins 28 Cyntha E Robins 6 John G Robins 4 Daniel Robins 2 Charity Robins 79 The children of Vincent and Charity were born between the years of 1788 and 1811 in Kentucky and Indiana. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his first wife (name not known yet) were born between the years 1807 and 1812 in Ohio. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his 2nd wife (Nancy Haynes) were born betwee n the years 1823 and 1835 in Ohio. I can also tell you that several researchers on the Web say that Vincent Robbins (husband of Charity) comes from a North Carolina Robbins family and I thoroughly believe it. Vincent is always mentioned in various sources (such as the Draper papers) as being with the Van Cleaves, the Boones (as in Daniel Boone's family), and others from the Yadkin Creek, Rowan Co NC area. Ironically, my father's family (surname Holmes) lived in Rowan Co. NC at the same time as these families and traveled to Kentucky and then Clark and Jefferson Cos Indiana. So I'm quite familiar with these Rowan Co. men! (My Robbins connection is on my mom's side. :-) ) Obviously, to really deliniate the two Vincent Robbins, it would be best to have a thoroughly sourced "time line" showing where each man was and when. I don't have that. But I am convinced they were two e ntirely separate people--between the overlapping birth years of their children in two different states and the fact that both wives were alive in 1850 convinces me! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2106 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-24 06:49:18 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: The Family of William Grant (born 1790 KY-died 1879 IN) and allied Washburn, Robbins and other families. Entries: 15659 Updated: 2012-12-14 16:59:06 UTC (Fri) Owner: Lou Ann Winterrowd -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Index | Descendancy | Register | Pedigree | Ahnentafel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a.. ID: I01532 a.. Name: Vincent Robbins a.. Sex: M a.. Birth: BET 1760 AND 1765 in NJ a.. Death: BEF 1850 a.. Note: VINCENT ROBBINS WAS BORN IN NEW JERSEY AND NOT IN NORTH CAROLINA!! He is NOT part of the North Carolina Robbins who moved to Kentucky, though this is an understandable mistake. The two families are related as Joseph Robbins, a grandson of Daniel Robbins of CT and NJ moved to NC and many of his descendants moved to KY. Vincent Robbins was the brother of Azuba Robbins. Azuba married George Washburn and George and Azuba Washburn are my great, great, great grandparents. I have the mortality schedule for Phebe (Washburn) Grant and it states that both of her parents, George Washburn and Azuba Robbins were born in New Jer sey. Another census shows that Isaac Washburn, son of George and Azuba was born in PA. I believe that the parents of Vincent and Azuba Robbins probably lived at least for a short time in Sussex Co. NJ where the Washburn s were living. A John Robbins was living in Sussex Co. and he moved to Washington Co. PA. I believe that he may have been a brother to Vincent and Azuba, but have not been able to prove that he was. Vincent and Azuba do not show up in any records I have found in SE PA, but I believe they were probably too young and were with their parents. I have other evidence that Vincent and Azuba Robbins were from New Jersey. There was a William and an Isaac Robbins in Washington Co. PA and I believe that one of these two men was the father of Vincent and Azuba Robbins, but have not found the proof. I would very much appreciate any help that anyone can give me in finding the names of the parents of Vincent Robbins and his sister, Azuba (Robbins) Washburn. Vincent Robbins married Charity Ryker. Charity Ryker was the daughter of Gerardus Ryker and Rachel Demerast. Gerardus was killed in Floyd's Defeat and Rachel then married John Van Cleve who was the brother of Jane Van Cleve who was married to Squire Boone Jr. Squire Boone Jr. was a brother to Elizabeth Boone who married William Grant. Their son John Grant was the father of William Grant who married Phebe Washburn who was the daughter of George Washburn and Azuba Robbins. Jonathan Boone, son of Squire Boone Jr. and Jane Van Cleve married Catherine (Rice) Fullenwider whose first husband was Peter Fullenwider. Peter Fullenwider was a brother to Elizabeth Fullenwider who married John Carr. John and Elizabeth Carr had a daughter, Barbara Carr, who married Ger ardus Ryker Robbins who was the son of Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. Rachel, sister to Charity, married 2nd) William Robbins, died 1795 who was a brother of Vincent Robbins. Vincent Robbins is listed in "Vol. Soldiers 1784-1811" as serving in the Vol. militia in 1794. Considering this, Vincent Robbins could also have been with Anthony Wayne when he marched to Fallen Timbers, as was Corneilus Washburn, though I have no proof that he was with Wayne. There are some stories about Vincent Robbins in the Draper MS. One is in the interview with Phebe (Washburn ) Grant and another is printed in "The Boone Family" by Hazel A. Spraker. I have been able to verify some of the information I have about Vincent Robbins, Charity Ryker, their families and their descendants. The following are some of my sources for that information about Vincent Robbi ns and his families and descendants: From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 7:26 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Tracey, It seems the 1850 census age for James Robins is incorrect. James W. Robbins was born 16 Aug, 1820 in Jefferson County, IN, the son of William Robbins born 19 Nov, 1794 in Shelby County, KY, the son of Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. James was married 20 Jan, 1841 in Jeffers on County, IN. The dates are from ancestry.com. From the 1860 census for Washington, Van Buren County, IA: Robbins, James W. 39 Farmer IN Nancy 38 KY Cynthia E. 16 IN John G. 14 " Daniel 12 " Archibald 8 " William 4 " Mary F. 2 IA Garry From: tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 4:55 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Hi! Sorry for my abrupt reply earlier! I got interrupted and then had to step away! Garry--to get back to your comment about Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. He and the Vincent Robbins of Brown Ohio were two separate people. I'm convinced of that. I have not researched the Washburns so I can't comment on the George Washburn in Shelby Co. KY. I can tell you that Charity Ryker Robbins (widow of Vincent Robbins of KY/IN) was alive in the 1850 census and some of her children still living with her. Here is an abstract of that census: Name:Charity Robins [Charity Robbins] Age:79 Birth Year:abt 1771 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1850:Canaan, Jefferson, Indiana, USA Name Age James Robins 39 Nance Robins 28 Cyntha E Robins 6 John G Robins 4 Daniel Robins 2 Charity Robins 79 The children of Vincent and Charity were born between the years of 1788 and 1811 in Kentucky and Indiana. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his first wife (name not known yet) were born between the years 1807 and 1812 in Ohio. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his 2nd wife (Nancy Haynes) were born betwee n the years 1823 and 1835 in Ohio. I can also tell you that several researchers on the Web say that Vincent Robbins (husband of Charity) comes from a North Carolina Robbins family and I thoroughly believe it. Vincent is always mentioned in various sources (such as the Draper papers) as being with the Van Cleaves, the Boones (as in Daniel Boone's family), and others from the Yadkin Creek, Rowan Co NC area. Ironically, my father's family (surname Holmes) lived in Rowan Co. NC at the same time as these families and traveled to Kentucky and then Clark and Jefferson Cos Indiana. So I'm quite familiar with these Rowan Co. men! (My Robbins connection is on my mom's side. :-) ) Obviously, to really deliniate the two Vincent Robbins, it would be best to have a thoroughly sourced "time line" showing where each man was and when. I don't have that. But I am convinced they were two e ntirely separate people--between the overlapping birth years of their children in two different states and the fact that both wives were alive in 1850 convinces me! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2107 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-01-24 07:01:18 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2108 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-24 08:09:10 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] Message: This was most likely Gerardus Ryker Robbins, born 12 Feb, 1791, I think Iā€™ve also seen 1790. From Chapter Five: The Riker Genealogy Charity. Born circa 1779 KY or Aug. 4, 1771, Closter, NJ. Married first Dec. 22, 1787, Vincent Robbins, Jefferson County (3 children); second to Hugh Conway 1763-1838 (3 children). Another child of Vincent and Charity: Rachel born 15 Dec. 1796 Hugh Conway as a 2nd husband of Charity could be true: In 1800, heā€™s listed in Shelby County, KY. From the 1810 census for Gallatin, Gallatin County, KY: Conway, Hugh 10001-20010 From the 1820 census for Gallatin County, KY: Conoway, Hugh 000001-00101 Gallatin County, KY, borders the Ohio river and is close to Jefferson County, IN. The son was Henry born 18 Sep. 1800 Shelby County, KY, died 28 Sep. 1838 Canaan, Jefferson County, IN, where Charity was living in 1850. Iā€™ve found children of Vincentā€™s sons, Gerardus Ryker and William, and the name Vincent is not among them. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:01 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] That helps A LOT!! So James is Charity's GRANDSON not son. Just the other day I made a discovery about the Vincent (who was married to Charity Ryker) and I knew I needed to look at James a bit harder. Vincent died (or at least left his children orphaned) sometime before 1807. Check out the attached record of Ryker Robins being bound out to David Vancleave. He says ..."directing Ryker Robbins infant orphan of Vincent Robbins who is aged seventeen years twelfth February one thousand and seven to be bound unto David Vancleave..." This is a Shelby Co. KY record, dated 11 April 1809. Source: Shelby Co. KY deed book I, pages 72-73 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS4L-Y5NB?i=44&cat=109965 Tracey On 1/24/2018 6:26 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, It seems the 1850 census age for James Robins is incorrect. James W. Robbins was born 16 Aug, 1820 in Jefferson County, IN, the son of William Robbins born 19 Nov, 1794 in Shelby County, KY, the son of Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. James was married 20 Jan, 1841 in Jeffe rson County, IN. The dates are from ancestry.com. From the 1860 census for Washington, Van Buren County, IA: Robbins, James W. 39 Farmer IN Nancy 38 KY Cynthia E. 16 IN John G. 14 " Daniel 12 " Archibald 8 " William 4 " Mary F. 2 IA Garry From: tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 4:55 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Hi! Sorry for my abrupt reply earlier! I got interrupted and then had to step away! Garry--to get back to your comment about Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. He and the Vincent Robbins of Brown Ohio were two separate people. I'm convinced of that. I have not researched the Washburns so I can't comment on the George Washburn in Shelby Co. KY. I can tell you that Charity Ryker Robbins (widow of Vincent Robbins of KY/IN) was alive in the 1850 census and some of her children still living with her. Here is an abstract of that census: Name:Charity Robins [Charity Robbins] Age:79 Birth Year:abt 1771 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1850:Canaan, Jefferson, Indiana, USA Name Age James Robins 39 Nance Robins 28 Cyntha E Robins 6 John G Robins 4 Daniel Robins 2 Charity Robins 79 The children of Vincent and Charity were born between the years of 1788 and 1811 in Kentucky and Indiana. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his first wife (name not known yet) were born between the years 1807 and 1812 in Ohio. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his 2nd wife (Nancy Haynes) were born betw een the years 1823 and 1835 in Ohio. I can also tell you that several researchers on the Web say that Vincent Robbins (husband of Charity) comes from a North Carolina Robbins family and I thoroughly believe it. Vincent is always mentioned in various sources (such as the Draper papers) as being with the Van Cleaves, the Boones (as in Daniel Boone's family), and others from the Yadkin Creek, Rowan Co NC area. Ironically, my father's family (surname Holmes) lived in Rowan Co. NC at the same time as these families and traveled to Kentucky and then Clark and Jefferson Cos Indiana. So I'm quite familiar with these Rowan Co. me n! (My Robbins connection is on my mom's side. :-) ) Obviously, to really deliniate the two Vincent Robbins, it would be best to have a thoroughly sourced "time line" showing where each man was and when. I don't have that. But I am convinced they were two e ntirely separate people--between the overlapping birth years of their children in two different states and the fact that both wives were alive in 1850 convinces me! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2109 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-24 08:46:14 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] Message: JEFFERSON COUNTY BIOGRAPHIES Taken from Biographical and Historical Souvenir of Clark, Crawford, Harrison, Floyd, Jefferson, Jennings, Scott and Washington Published by John M. Gresham & Company 1889 William Robbins, (deceased), the subject of this sketch, was born in Kentucky in 1794. He was brought up in perilous time from the wild beast of the country and the still wilder and more cruel men, the Indian. His fi rst visit to Indiana Territory was in 1804, when he came to visit his mother's brother, John Rykere, who had a claim in Eagle Creek Valley, about three miles east of where Madison now is He bought flour, sugar and coffee to his uncle, luxuries which were not to be had at that time in the little settlement of Indiana. During this journey he saw deer, bears, panthers and various kinds of smaller game. He crossed the Ohio in a pirogue, his horse swimming by the side of the boat. In 1809 Mr. Robbins settled permanently in Jefferson County, or what was afterward so named, making his home with his uncle, Mason Watts, who had built a log cabin two miles north of the present site of Canaan. The i ndians were troublesome about this time, and he enlisted as a ranger, and was several months in that service, headquarters at Buchanan's Station. The company in which he served was along Indian Kentucky creek, and was c ommanded by James McCoy as captain; this was in 1811-1812. He was with Gen. W. H. Harrison when Detroit was taken, and at the battle of the River Thames were Tecumseh was killed; but just who fired that fatal shot he could never twll. After the war he settled on a tract of l and, two and one-half miles north of Canaan, which he bought of the Government. He was married on the 21st of January, 1816, to Elizabeth Wildman, who was the daughter of James Wildman, an early settler. He was married by Elder Jesse Vawter. Mr. Robbins was a great hunter, and kept his family well supplied with meat by the use of his gun. Game of all kinds was plenty in the forest at that time -beasts and birds. He was in Madison at the first sale of lot s by John Paul and Jonathan Lyons; the lots were about where the court-house now stands; they sold for about fifteen dollars apiece. The result of his marriage was eight children, who lived to the age of maturity, vis: Eliza, Mary A., James, Aaron, Elizabeth, Martha, Ryker and John W.; of these, two girls and four boys are now living (in 1888). Mr. Wm. Robbins died in 1884, at his son Aaron's; he had been blind for some years. He was a centenarian, and the last of his compeers to pass away to the Spirit Land. His wife died in 1856. He was a member of the Ba ptist Church for many years before his death. His youngest daughter, Martha, was married to James Christie, February 24, 1846, and to them were born two children: John W. and Mary Elizabeth. Her husband died July 11, 1850, and she re-married in October, 1855, to William B. East, and to them were born five children, viz: George O., Ryker A., Minerva A., Fannie D. and Bailey S. Her second husband died January 26, 1865, and she married a third time, in 1884, to Enos Miles, who di ed in 1887. She still lives in the village of Bryantsburg. Her eldest son enlisted in the Tenth Reg. Ind. Vols., and served through the war. Mrs. Miles has raised her family almost unaided, and has been successful in giving all of them a good common-school education. She has lived to see all of her children grown and married. She has been an earnest member of the Methodist Episcopal Church for some twenty years. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:01 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] That helps A LOT!! So James is Charity's GRANDSON not son. Just the other day I made a discovery about the Vincent (who was married to Charity Ryker) and I knew I needed to look at James a bit harder. Vincent died (or at least left his children orphaned) sometime before 1807. Check out the attached record of Ryker Robins being bound out to David Vancleave. He says ..."directing Ryker Robbins infant orphan of Vincent Robbins who is aged seventeen years twelfth February one thousand and seven to be bound unto David Vancleave..." This is a Shelby Co. KY record, dated 11 April 1809. Source: Shelby Co. KY deed book I, pages 72-73 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS4L-Y5NB?i=44&cat=109965 Tracey On 1/24/2018 6:26 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, It seems the 1850 census age for James Robins is incorrect. James W. Robbins was born 16 Aug, 1820 in Jefferson County, IN, the son of William Robbins born 19 Nov, 1794 in Shelby County, KY, the son of Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. James was married 20 Jan, 1841 in Jeffe rson County, IN. The dates are from ancestry.com. From the 1860 census for Washington, Van Buren County, IA: Robbins, James W. 39 Farmer IN Nancy 38 KY Cynthia E. 16 IN John G. 14 " Daniel 12 " Archibald 8 " William 4 " Mary F. 2 IA Garry From: tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 4:55 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Hi! Sorry for my abrupt reply earlier! I got interrupted and then had to step away! Garry--to get back to your comment about Vincent Robbins and Charity Ryker. He and the Vincent Robbins of Brown Ohio were two separate people. I'm convinced of that. I have not researched the Washburns so I can't comment on the George Washburn in Shelby Co. KY. I can tell you that Charity Ryker Robbins (widow of Vincent Robbins of KY/IN) was alive in the 1850 census and some of her children still living with her. Here is an abstract of that census: Name:Charity Robins [Charity Robbins] Age:79 Birth Year:abt 1771 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1850:Canaan, Jefferson, Indiana, USA Name Age James Robins 39 Nance Robins 28 Cyntha E Robins 6 John G Robins 4 Daniel Robins 2 Charity Robins 79 The children of Vincent and Charity were born between the years of 1788 and 1811 in Kentucky and Indiana. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his first wife (name not known yet) were born between the years 1807 and 1812 in Ohio. The children of Vincent Robbins of Ohio and his 2nd wife (Nancy Haynes) were born betw een the years 1823 and 1835 in Ohio. I can also tell you that several researchers on the Web say that Vincent Robbins (husband of Charity) comes from a North Carolina Robbins family and I thoroughly believe it. Vincent is always mentioned in various sources (such as the Draper papers) as being with the Van Cleaves, the Boones (as in Daniel Boone's family), and others from the Yadkin Creek, Rowan Co NC area. Ironically, my father's family (surname Holmes) lived in Rowan Co. NC at the same time as these families and traveled to Kentucky and then Clark and Jefferson Cos Indiana. So I'm quite familiar with these Rowan Co. me n! (My Robbins connection is on my mom's side. :-) ) Obviously, to really deliniate the two Vincent Robbins, it would be best to have a thoroughly sourced "time line" showing where each man was and when. I don't have that. But I am convinced they were two e ntirely separate people--between the overlapping birth years of their children in two different states and the fact that both wives were alive in 1850 convinces me! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2110 Sender:crisrobbins@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-24 13:02:59 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] Message: Tracey, I agree that this Ryker Robbins is Geradus Ryker Robins. There was also a Isaac Robins and Rachel Robins Storm. On ancestry a cousin Ritanne_60 who we share Peter 1810-1893 believes in the Ryker connection. This Hugh C onway I believe married Geertie's sister who also was named Charity. I did see on the 1850 Census that she Geertie Charity was living with her Grandson. Rita told me a story about Isaac Robbins 1788 the first born child that he was scalped as a child and still a long life. This gives some prove as to when the Vincent Robins died as it is reported on many Ancestry tree's as 1798. I have been studying Robbins names associated with Washington County Pennsylvania and found three people so far from that time period. Amos 12/15/1797 Job will from 1777 Daniel 1760 family tree. I have to tip my OCD hat to Tracey for having the super sleuth skills to find these hidden records. The will's i have read are SO boring about there worldly poss-ions. I have found a Jeremiah Washburn Will from Kentuc ky that listed George and other male son's on it. I think what Tracey found is further proof that this Vincent is not related to the Ryker family. I did find a Vincent Robbins tax record that matched George Washburn in 1795 in Shelby Co. Kentucky. So it seems to me th at wherever Azubia Washburn went her brother followed. I have found some Robbins that were married in Brown county in the 1815-1822 range that probably fit into either Vincent's or Obediah Robbins family. Sarah Robbins m Zadoc Prickett William Robbins m Mary Drake Cornielus Washburn son of George Washburn married Susan Dunn who's mother was a Prickett. Also James Robbins married Cythnia Lucas who's mother was also a Prickett. It is a very interesting family soup of revolving fam ily names that migrated from Allegheny Co. PA. I suspect that Peter 1810-1893 mother is part of this Wright/ Fleming / Evans / Prickett . Cris Robbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2111 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-24 13:59:07 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Cris, Isaac Robbins born 1788 ... the scalping sounds logical ... the long life not so much. Do you have any records for him? I assume you mean Vincent Robbins of Brown County, Ohio, is not related to the Ryker family? Are you suggesting Asubia Robbins brother, Vincent, was in Shelby County, KY, in 1795, and another Vincent Robbins married Ch arity Ryker in Shelby County in 1797? For what itā€™s worth, I agree with the descendant of George Washburn who researched the family and believes Vincent Robbins, brother of Asubia, married Charity Ryker. Please give me a theory about how Vincent Robbins of Brown County, Ohio, is connected to Isaac Robbins of Nottingham Twp, Washington County, Pennsylvania; Iā€™m thinking of the land record of 1797/1847. Garry From: crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 3:02 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Tracey, I agree that this Ryker Robbins is Geradus Ryker Robins. There was also a Isaac Robins and Rachel Robins Storm. On ancestry a cousin Ritanne_60 who we share Peter 1810-1893 believes in the Ryker connection. This Hugh Co nway I believe married Geertie's sister who also was named Charity. I did see on the 1850 Census that she Geertie Charity was living with her Grandson. Rita told me a story about Isaac Robbins 1788 the first born child that he was scalped as a child and still a long life. This gives some prove as to when the Vincent Robins died as it is reported on many Ancestry tree's as 1798. I have been studying Robbins names associated with Washington County Pennsylvania and found three people so far from that time period. Amos 12/15/1797 Job will from 1777 Daniel 1 760 family tree. I have to tip my OCD hat to Tracey for having the super sleuth skills to find these hidden records. The will's i have read are SO boring about there worldly poss-ions. I have found a Jeremiah Washburn Will from Kentuck y that listed George and other male son's on it. I think what Tracey found is further proof that this Vincent is not related to the Ryker family. I did find a Vincent Robbins tax record that matched George Washburn in 1795 in Shelby Co. Kentucky. So it seems to me tha t wherever Azubia Washburn went her brother followed. I have found some Robbins that were married in Brown county in the 1815-1822 range that probably fit into either Vincent's or Obediah Robbins family. Sarah Robbins m Zadoc Prickett William Robbins m Mary Drake Cornielus Washburn son of George Washburn married Su san Dunn who's mother was a Prickett. Also James Robbins married Cythnia Lucas who's mother was also a Prickett. It is a very interesting family soup of revolving fam ily names that migrated from Allegheny Co. PA. I suspect that Peter 1810-1893 mother is part of this Wright/ Fleming / Evans / Prickett . Cris Robbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2112 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-24 14:23:36 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Cris, I wish Lou Ann Winterrowd was in on this discussion. She obviously did a lot of research. I find this interesting, this is from Lou Ann: Name: Vincent Robbins Sex: M Birth: BET 1760 AND 1765 in NJ Death: BEF 1850 Garry From: crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 3:02 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Tracey, I agree that this Ryker Robbins is Geradus Ryker Robins. There was also a Isaac Robins and Rachel Robins Storm. On ancestry a cousin Ritanne_60 who we share Peter 1810-1893 believes in the Ryker connection. This Hugh Co nway I believe married Geertie's sister who also was named Charity. I did see on the 1850 Census that she Geertie Charity was living with her Grandson. Rita told me a story about Isaac Robbins 1788 the first born child that he was scalped as a child and still a long life. This gives some prove as to when the Vincent Robins died as it is reported on many Ancestry tree's as 1798. I have been studying Robbins names associated with Washington County Pennsylvania and found three people so far from that time period. Amos 12/15/1797 Job will from 1777 Daniel 1 760 family tree. I have to tip my OCD hat to Tracey for having the super sleuth skills to find these hidden records. The will's i have read are SO boring about there worldly poss-ions. I have found a Jeremiah Washburn Will from Kentuck y that listed George and other male son's on it. I think what Tracey found is further proof that this Vincent is not related to the Ryker family. I did find a Vincent Robbins tax record that matched George Washburn in 1795 in Shelby Co. Kentucky. So it seems to me tha t wherever Azubia Washburn went her brother followed. I have found some Robbins that were married in Brown county in the 1815-1822 range that probably fit into either Vincent's or Obediah Robbins family. Sarah Robbins m Zadoc Prickett William Robbins m Mary Drake Cornielus Washburn son of George Washburn married Su san Dunn who's mother was a Prickett. Also James Robbins married Cythnia Lucas who's mother was also a Prickett. It is a very interesting family soup of revolving fam ily names that migrated from Allegheny Co. PA. I suspect that Peter 1810-1893 mother is part of this Wright/ Fleming / Evans / Prickett . Cris Robbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2113 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-01-24 14:28:13 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Garry, I recently contacted Lou Ann Winterrowed with the e-mail address I had for her. My message went through but she hasnā€™t responded. It would be nice to have her as a member. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 2:24 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Cris, I wish Lou Ann Winterrowd was in on this discussion. She obviously did a lot of research. I find this interesting, this is from Lou Ann: Name: Vincent Robbins Sex: M Birth: BET 1760 AND 1765 in NJ Death: BEF 1850 Garry From: crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 3:02 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Tracey, I agree that this Ryker Robbins is Geradus Ryker Robins. There was also a Isaac Robins and Rachel Robins Storm. On ancestry a cousin Ritanne_60 who we share Peter 1810-1893 believes in the Ryker connection. This Hugh Co nway I believe married Geertie's sister who also was named Charity. I did see on the 1850 Census that she Geertie Charity was living with her Grandson. Rita told me a story about Isaac Robbins 1788 the first born child that he was scalped as a child and still a long life. This gives some prove as to when the Vincent Robins died as it is reported on many Ancestry tree's as 1798. I have been studying Robbins names associated with Washington County Pennsylvania and found three people so far from that time period. Amos 12/15/1797 Job will from 1777 Daniel 1 760 family tree. I have to tip my OCD hat to Tracey for having the super sleuth skills to find these hidden records. The will's i have read are SO boring about there worldly poss-ions. I have found a Jeremiah Washburn Will from Kentuck y that listed George and other male son's on it. I think what Tracey found is further proof that this Vincent is not related to the Ryker family. I did find a Vincent Robbins tax record that matched George Washburn in 1795 in Shelby Co. Kentucky. So it seems to me tha t wherever Azubia Washburn went her brother followed. I have found some Robbins that were married in Brown county in the 1815-1822 range that probably fit into either Vincent's or Obediah Robbins family. Sarah Robbins m Zadoc Prickett William Robbins m Mary Drake Cornielus Washburn son of George Washburn married Su san Dunn who's mother was a Prickett. Also James Robbins married Cythnia Lucas who's mother was also a Prickett. It is a very interesting family soup of revolving fam ily names that migrated from Allegheny Co. PA. I suspect that Peter 1810-1893 mother is part of this Wright/ Fleming / Evans / Prickett . Cris Robbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2114 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-24 14:31:47 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Cris, Youā€™re suggesting Vincent and Charity Robbins 1st son was named Isaac. Isaac Robbins, where might that name have come from? Garry From: crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 3:02 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Tracey, I agree that this Ryker Robbins is Geradus Ryker Robins. There was also a Isaac Robins and Rachel Robins Storm. On ancestry a cousin Ritanne_60 who we share Peter 1810-1893 believes in the Ryker connection. This Hugh Co nway I believe married Geertie's sister who also was named Charity. I did see on the 1850 Census that she Geertie Charity was living with her Grandson. Rita told me a story about Isaac Robbins 1788 the first born child that he was scalped as a child and still a long life. This gives some prove as to when the Vincent Robins died as it is reported on many Ancestry tree's as 1798. I have been studying Robbins names associated with Washington County Pennsylvania and found three people so far from that time period. Amos 12/15/1797 Job will from 1777 Daniel 1 760 family tree. I have to tip my OCD hat to Tracey for having the super sleuth skills to find these hidden records. The will's i have read are SO boring about there worldly poss-ions. I have found a Jeremiah Washburn Will from Kentuck y that listed George and other male son's on it. I think what Tracey found is further proof that this Vincent is not related to the Ryker family. I did find a Vincent Robbins tax record that matched George Washburn in 1795 in Shelby Co. Kentucky. So it seems to me tha t wherever Azubia Washburn went her brother followed. I have found some Robbins that were married in Brown county in the 1815-1822 range that probably fit into either Vincent's or Obediah Robbins family. Sarah Robbins m Zadoc Prickett William Robbins m Mary Drake Cornielus Washburn son of George Washburn married Su san Dunn who's mother was a Prickett. Also James Robbins married Cythnia Lucas who's mother was also a Prickett. It is a very interesting family soup of revolving fam ily names that migrated from Allegheny Co. PA. I suspect that Peter 1810-1893 mother is part of this Wright/ Fleming / Evans / Prickett . Cris Robbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2115 Sender:crisrobbins@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-24 18:02:51 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Hi Gary, I thought that Isaac was the paternal grand father since they seemed to carry on the Scottish naming patterns.The 2nd male was Geradus Ryker Robbins named after Geertie's slained father. I deleted the Ryker family from my tree but have debated with my long ago cousin Ritanne and she is a firm believer. I have tried to email with LouAnne Winterrowd but was not successful. I think I have her phone number from stalking her but I have not had the guts to call her. I emailed Ritanne and told her about the new information on Vincent and that it would be awesome to get in touch with LouAnne. Cris Robbins Louann A Winterrowd Age 65ā€”70 View Louann Winterrowd's Background & Public Record Information https://ads.nuwber.com/jump/person/beenverified?firstName=Louann&lastName=Winterrowd&city=South+Whitley&state=IN&category=view-linkAds https://ads.nuwbe r.com/jump/person/beenverified?firstName=Louann&lastName=Winterrowd&city=South+Whitley&state=IN&category=view-link Phone https://nuwber.com/phone/592d83ec186a51248b4cc369/3175177050(317) 517-7050 https://nuwber.com/phone/592d83ec186a51248b4cc369/3175177050 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2116 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-01-24 18:59:48 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2117 Sender:crisrobbins@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-24 19:03:03 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA Message: Hi Gary, I tried to find information on Isaac Robbins 1788 but didn't really find anything. I assumed with the story from Ritanne that said he was scalped and that he was fitted with some kind of animal prosthetic on top of his head. That he probably never married and maybe had limited mental abilities ? I have a marriage record of Vincent Robins and Charity Rycker as 12/22/1787 in Jefferson County Kentucky, I followed the posting from LouAnn Winterrowd as the gospel and still believe her Azubia / Vincent accounts fro m Washington County PA and Sussex Co. N.J. She even suggested back in 2002 that there was 2 possible Robbins that could be there father, Isaac being one and I forgot the other in Washington Co PA. She also believed that they had a brother John. It never made sense to me that The Rykers were part of my Ohio line. First none of Rykers ever came to Ohio they instead went to Indiana. The Idea of Divorce before 1808 when Vincent H. Robbins was born seems to hard to except. The Rykers if I remember were part of the low dutch and they emigrated as a group. The mother of Vincent 1808 Peter 1810 Ellen 1811 and Azubia 1812 is unknown and I suspect no Ryker co nnection with them. The timeline when Jeremiah Washburn came to Dover, Mason County KY was around 1786 according to this http://www.nkyviews.com/mason/pdf/dover_part_1.pdf http://www.nkyviews.com/mason/pdf/dover_part_1.pdf . There so man y parallels with Robbins / Washburn Rykers as being Indian spys used by the military for there wilderness prowess. It is possible they ran into each other. But I think the Rykers came from the Carolina's to Jefferson Co unty from the South while the Washburn's / Robbins came from the Mason Co / Bracken Co to Shelby County ( 1795 tax record) from the North. I wish my cousin Ritanne ritanne@fuse.net who is a member of this so ciety would join us in the debate. She has a lot of insight that would be very useful. I have no insight to add about Isaac from Nottingham just what Tracey uncovered. Cris Robbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2118 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-25 04:30:26 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] Message: Tracey, Iā€™m very glad you continued researching and found this Will. Henry Conway was born 18 Sept. 1800, according to what I found. He supposedly died 28 Sept, 1838, interesting that itā€™s the same year his fatherā€™s Will was Probated. Iā€™ve seen a death year for Vincent Robbins of 1798, that year or early 1799 now fits for when Vincent and Charity separated. Thanks, Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@gmail.com [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 8:59 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Isaac Robbins Nottingham Twp, Washington County, PA [1 Attachment] Cris--you'll probably want to add the Rykers back into your tree!! I found Hugh Conway's will and it is so mind-blowing I had to send you all the most important snippet without transcribing the entire thing! Important note: He wrote the will in September 1816. It was probated in 1838. OH MY GOSH!! I can't get this to you all fast enough!! You won't believe it! Read it: "...the whole of my property both real and personal to my wife Ruthy Conway during her natural life and then to my three children: Cynthia Robens Nancy Robens and Harry (?) Robens, natural children I had by Charity Robens after she separated from her husband Vincent Robens the said Charity now lives with her mother Rachel Vancleave in the Indiana but this arrangement is not to include any property that my wife Ruth had when I married her..." SO! Charity and Vincent separated! And Charity had children with Hugh Conway but did not marry him! We don't know when but we know it was before 1807--when Vincent's son Ryker was considered an "orphan of Vincent Robbins." Does that mean that this Vincent went on to Ohio and had Cris Robbins' ancestor?? I also read the Rev. War pension application of Hugh Conway written in 1833. He does not name his wife or his children in it. But he does say that he lived in the following places: Born in Pennsylvania in 1763 Lived at Forks of the Youghogany River in Pennsylvania during the revolution up to the year 1783 when he came to KY and became a resident of what was then called Jefferson "I think now Nelson County When I entered the service in all my tours prior to 1783 I was a resident of the said county of Washington Pennsylvania. When I was called into service in 1783 I was then a resident of KY in the county of Jefferson now Nelson. Since the revolution I continued to reside for some years in Nelson County KY and then moved to Shelby County KY where I continued to live for about 19 years and then moved to Gallatin now Owen County KY in the year 1808 and have continued to live in the same county ever since..." Notice a pattern here? Washington Co. PA, to Jefferson Co. KY (Charity Ryker and Vincent Robbins were married in Jefferson), to Shelby Co. KY...I wonder if these families knew each other in Washington Co. PA! Charity and Vincent's marriage record in Jefferson is at: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/61372/TH-1971-28930-12581-44?pid=901867744&backurl=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DCro10389%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26db%3DFSMarr iageKentucky%26gss%3Dangs-d%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26msT%3D1%26gsfn%3DCharity%26gsfn_x%3D0%26gsln%3DRyker%26gsln_x%3D0%26MSAV%3D1%26uidh%3Dfdi%26pcat%3D34%26fh%3D1%26h%3D901867744%26recoff%3D%26ml_rpos%3D2&usePUB=true&_ph src=Cro10389&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true BUT also, in Jefferson County Kentucky is the following marriage record: Hugh Conway to Rachel Vancleave Jefferson County Kentucky 13 Sept 1788 https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/61372/TH-1961-28930-12126-39?pid=1845777&backurl=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D61372%26h%3D1845777%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DCro103 53%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Cro10353&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true So was Hugh first married to Rachel Vancleave?? BOY! The plot really thickens guys! And just so we have proper citations: Here is the source for Hugh Conway's will: Owen County KY Will Book B, pages 259-260 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GP38-95DJ?i=139&wc=37RG-VZS%3A173643901%2C173853801&cc=1875188 I made a PDF and attached it here. Also Hugh Conway's Rev War pension application is online at: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1995/MIUSA1775D_135213-00033?pid=13586&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1995%26h%3D13586%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DCro10367%2 6_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Cro10367&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true#?imageId=MIUSA1775D_135213-00041 Tracey On 1/24/2018 7:02 PM, crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Hi Gary, I thought that Isaac was the paternal grand father since they seemed to carry on the Scottish naming patterns.The 2nd male was Geradus Ryker Robbins named after Geertie's slained father. I deleted the Ryker family fro m my tree but have debated with my long ago cousin Ritanne and she is a firm believer. I have tried to email with LouAnne Winterrowd but was not successful. I think I have her phone number from stalking her but I have not had the guts to call her. I emailed Ritanne and told her about the new information on Vincent and that it would be awesome to get in touch with LouAnne. Cris Robbins Louann A Winterrowd Age 65ā€”70 View Louann Winterrowd's Background & Public Record Information Ads ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phone (317) 517-7050 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2119 Sender:july37@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-27 16:30:10 Subject:Re:William Robbins ca.1733-1786 Guilford, NC Message: William Robbins b. ca. 1733, probably NC, d. 1786, probably Guilford Co., NC. I have searched NC Wills, Deeds & other places for documentation that may connect William Robbins to his wife Elizabeth Bryant & their chi ldren. So far, I have been unsuccessful in my search. My questions are was Elizabeth Bryant the wife of William Robbins (1733-1786) & were the children listed below their children? If any member has this same informatio n & good sources for it, I'd appreciate your help. Children of William & Elizabeth Bryant Robbins. 1. Jonathan Robbins born ca. 1759 in Rowan Co., NC, died 1798 in Montgomery Co., VA, not married. 2. Michael Robbins born ca. 1762 in Rowan Co., NC, died 1759 in Montgomery Co., VA, not married. 3. Vincent Robbins born ca. 1765 in Rowan Co., NC, died 1798 in Shelby Co., KY, married Charity Ryker. (record for marriage on 22 Dec 1787 in KY located & posted by Tracey) 4. James born ca. 1768 in Rowan Co., NC, died ? married? 5. Joseph Robbins born 9 Nov 1771 in Guilford Co., NC, died 16 Oct. 1842 in Randolph Co., NC, married Leanna Smith. (record for marriage in Randolph Co. NC on 13 Sept. 1792) 6. William Robbins born ca. 1773 in Guilford Co., NC, died ? married Rachel Ryker Hoagland, 1793 in Shelby Co., KY. 7. Elizabeth born ca. 1775 in Guilford Co., NC, died 1821 in Shelby Co., KY, married Joseph Robbins ca. 1795 in Franklin Co., VA. Thank you, Sara ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2120 Sender:gheagy@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-28 06:17:22 Subject:Vincent Robbins Shelby County, KY Message: This is an interesting article. From Jefferson County Local History: John Smock of Hanover Township Reminiscences of a Jefferson County Pioneer Published in the Madison Courier ā€“ June 26, 1874; July 3, 1874 As so many have been writing reminiscences of early life, I will give you mine, prefacing it with great-grandfathers and great-great-grandfather Jacob Smock. He was born in Amsterdam Holland; came to American before th e Revolutionary War, I think about the year 1765. He came to New York and was married to Catherine Demaree. He built a house in the city which was burned with nearly everything they had in it. During the war, General Wa shington sent him with a company to drive a drove of horses into the wildness to prevent them falling into the hands of the British. That company was called the ā€œCane Boys.ā€ I do not know that he rendered any other services to the Colonies in that war. He moved from New York to New Jersey; from New Jersey to Virginia, where great -grandfather was born in Hanover County. They moved from Vir ginia to Pennsylvania; from Pennsylvania they, with several other families, floated down the Ohio River to the falls. There they disembarked and went to Mercer County, Kentucky; settled near Danville; moved from Mercer County to Shelby County and settled on a creek called Bullskin, six or seven miles west of Shelbyville. Here they were very much annoyed by the Indians. I had one uncle killed (Matthew Smock), and two uncles taken priso ners, Peter and John Smock. Father was wounded in the arm at the same time. I also had a cousin tomahawked and scalped and left for dead, but he survived, got well and lived some years afterwards. His name was Isaac Rob bins, brother to William Robbins, an early settler in Shelby Township, in Jefferson County, Indiana. My motherā€™s maiden name was Rachel Ryker; she had two husbands killed by the Indians; her first was Henry Hoghland. She had one son by this marriage and named him Henry, after his father. He married Miss Jane Peters of Jefferson County, and died in Harrison County, Ind. They both belonged to the Methodist church, in good standing, until their death. Motherā€™s second husband was William Robbins (he was killed stated). She had one daugh ter by this marriage who married Booth Thomas; they both died in Jennings County, Indiana. The same band of Indians who scalped young Robbins took my uncles prisoners, and then left for the Indian country, across the Oh io. Where they crossed the river, and what they done. When the alarm guns were fired the neighbors soon collected and followed the Indian trail to the river, but the Indians had just got across, and the men had to return without rescuing the prisoners or getting a shot at the redskins. The Indians crossed the Ohio just below the mouth of Clifty Creek and then came to the river and camped at the root of a big poplar tree that stood where the courthouse now is. They remained three days, s inging and dancing and then started for their town on ā€œFlat Rock,ā€ going up Crooked Creek to the highlands. Peter fared pretty well. Old Winnemac adopted him into his family in place of a son he had lost. John fared wor se, often roasting wild turkey guts or eating them raw. Winnemacā€™s old squaw, with some young ones, took Peter into the river to wash the white blood out of him to make an Indian of him. He got one of them down in the water and was about to drown her, but the others rescued her. It pleased Winnemac very much to see him outdo the squaws. The old woman would take him to hoe corn; he wouldnā€™t hoe worth a cent. She then made him take the papoose to take care of; he would pinch it and make it cry. That pleased Winnemac; he said he was no squawā€”he would make a brave; a good warrior. They were with the Indians some eighteen months of two years. General Wayne had a treaty with the Indians at Greenville. Grandfather took a keg of rum and went to the treat. He got a French Canadian, an Indian trader, to buy the boys. They both lived to raise families. Peter was a very strong, stout man, weighing over 200 pounds. John was not so large. They both lived in Marion Co. Ind. Peter knew of one or two silver mines, but he could not tell where they were. He also knew them to make salt. From what he told me, I think the salt water was probably in Jackson or Lawrence County; he said it was a salt spring, boiled up and ran about twenty feet, and sank again. They carried the water as much as a mile to bo il it, not cutting a stick of timber near by the spring. Before they left the country, they covered the spring up carefully so no whites could find it. Before the battle of Tippecanoe, there was a half-blood Indian by t he name of Elliott on his way to join Gen. Harrison that stayed all night with Uncle Peter. He said if he lived to get back he would take him (Uncle Peter) to the salt spring and silver mine. He never returned ā€“ whether was killed or not, we donā€™t know. Something I know. I was born in Shelby Co. Ky., on a small stream called Fox Run, a tributary of Bullskin, in the spring of 1805. My father, Col. Samuel Smock, came to the Indian Territory, or New Purchase, as it was called, put up a lo g cabin at what has generally been known as Smockā€™s Big Spring, the place where the widow Morton now lives, almost three miles southwest of Hanover in Jefferson County. He enclosed about three acres of ground with a rud e brush fence and some rails, planted it with corn the last of May or first of June. It made a good crop, yielding, as he thought 80 bushels of corn per acre. There was only one family of whites nearer than fourteen miles on this side of the river. There were plenty of Indians. The white family was Mason Watts. His wife, Debby, was a sister to my mother. They lived where Cap tain Robert Kyle now lives, half a mile south of Hanover. Mrs. Watts was equal to the vicissitudes and privations of a new wilderness home. She cut down with an axe; and the use of her own stalwart arms, a black walnut tree; cut off a log the length she wanted it split, dressed cut the pieces and made the first loom ever made in Jefferson County. Late in the fall of 1805 we started to move to the home; we got to the top of the hill on the Kentucky side late in the evening; stayed all night at a Mr. John Cumminsā€™. Next morning one of the teams returned to Shelby and the other teamster, Samuel Ryker (my uncle), cut a good sized beach sapling and chained it to the hind axle-tree, leaving the brush on to help to keep the wagon back from crowding on the horses too much. We crossed the river at Monroeā€™s Ferry at or near the mouth of Corn Creek, Ky. I think William Y. Monroeā€™s father or grandfather kept the ferry. When we started from Mr. Cumminsā€™ in the morning to go down to the river, each one of the children that was big enough to carry anything down the hill had to carry something. It fell to me to carry a pretty large bread tray. There being a heavy, white frost, I put the tray down and got on it . I went Jehu-like until it happened to run against a bank formed by a tree falling out by the roots. For that adventure and piece of fun, I got the last ā€œbackā€ rations I ever got in Old Kentucky. Over the River and Far Away. There was no wagon to be had on this side of the river. Father had constructed a vehicle somewhat in the fashion of what the boys, used to call ā€œjumper.ā€ In this wise, taking two poles, cutting the binder end a little slanting to make it slide easy, having an auger hole in the other end to fasten it to the hames, then putting a box on the poles behind the horse. The goods were placed in the box, and hauled it about six miles. At this time there was plenty of wild game in the woods, deer, bear, turkeys, wolves, raccoons, opossums, and a little highly performed animal they called a pole-cat. Also, foxes, some panthers and wild-cats with quite a suppl y of copperhead and rattle snakes. I have stated that Mason Watts was an early settler, among others there were Lafe Hardin, John Chism, Daniel Robbins, Evan Thomas and his several sons, William McCleland, Phillip Coryea, Isaac Hall, George Gess, Matthe w Cooley, Amos Chitwood, Joshua Tull, Jas. Smith, Bazel Maxwell, John Maxwell, William and John Anderson, James Blankenship, John Chambers Sr., Alexander Chambers, Michael Monroe, Felix Monroe, John Barnes, James Arbuck le, Willis F. Sullivan, Daniel Sullivan, Christopher Harrison, David H. Maxwell and others. Mason Watts was succeeded by Robert Henderson; Daniel Robbins by James Matthews, where William Matthews now lives, Christopher Harrison was succeeded by George Logan. After the lands were surveyed, there was steady emigration until 1812. Williamson Dunn, Benj. Whitson, Methodist minister, and school teacher, (first teacher was Thomas McIntire, then old Mr. Condrey). The cave at Big Spring was first explored by Isaac Hall and an Indian. It occurred in this way: Evan Thomas, living where James Cochrane now lives, had a tub of thread in cave soaking the lev out of it; there came a bi g freshet and washed the tub away. One or two skeins of the thread were found hanging on a crag of the rock at the mouth of the cave by the creek, between half to three quarters from where it started. Isaac Hall and the Indian then went hunting the thread and the tub. In 1812, the time of the Indian troubles, a good many of the settlers left the country and went across the river to Kentucky. My father and others stayed and built block houses and forts. Samuel Smock was the first Justice of the Peace and the first Postmaster ever commissioned within the present bounds of in Jefferson County; the Smockville post office being the first established in the county. General Harrison was then Governor of the Territory. I believe Thomas Posey of Virginia was the first Governor, but I am not certain. The lands were not surveyed when we came to the Territory. A Mr. Harris surveyed the lands i n the district of the Jeffersonville land office. Thomas Harris carried the United States mail from Lawrenceburg to Jeffersonville, He lived where Mr. Lund now lives, on the Hanover Pike. The roads at that time were bad and he suffered a great deal in the winter, but he was faithful to the Government through wet, and dry, heat and cold. He was of the Methodist denomination. The place where my father settled, Big Spring, proved to be the 16th section, reserved by an act of Congress for school purposes, consequently, he could not enter it; he entered 160 acres up the creek where Robert Tayl or lived and died. He swapped with Wm. James for place where Mr. George Millican now lives. Mr. James and Mr. Early, his brother-in-law joined the Shakers and left the neighborhood and went to Brearam on the Wabash. When the news came of the Pigeon Roost murder a good many left and went across the river, leaving their stock and most of their goods. Several families went that night to James Andersonā€™s Fort, three-quarters of a mile south of where Hanover now is. Our family, all went there except father. Court was then sitting in Madison, William McFarland being presiding judge, and Samuel Smock, and William Cotton of Switzerland County were Assoc iate Judges. Father came home, put up his horse, ate his supper and went to bed, keeping the fort until morning and then surrendered it to mother, who had returned with the family and others. The Provoke A family by the name of Collins were the principal sufferers at the ā€œPigeon Roost.ā€ Mr. Collins had offended some Indians by ordering them off his place, using language and threats which would under our present laws am ount to provoke. The Indians then threatened him, hence the murder. Some have charged White-Eyes with it, but I think he was innocent as he was not with the company that was insulted by Mr. Collins, though I think it wa s probable he was in the battle of ā€œTippecanoe, as he was absent from the settlement for some time. Old Painter had a wigwam on the creek at the mouth of the spring branch, and below the Big Spring where the Latta famil y now live. The woods caught fire one fall and burned his shanty. He accused the whites of burning it, and there were some fears he would do some mischief, but he left the country. His shanty was constructed with poles covered with lynn and buckeye bark peeled when the sap was up. It was what was called a ā€œthree-faced cabinā€ ā€“ three walls and open in front. How Nealā€™s Creek Got Its Name After peace was made in 1814, the country was settled very fast. Among others, a man by the name of Jesse Neal came. One winter night a comfortable snow fell; next morning he took his gun and went hunting; It was cloud y and snowed that day. It being cloudy and no sun to be seen, he got lost. He wandered about, crossing his own tracks several times, until I suppose he was tired down. He creeped into a hollow log in the creek bottom, w here he was frozen stiff. The creek has been called Nealā€™s Creek ever since. It empties in Big Creek near Paris. Home of the Privation Encountered For a few years we had to go to Kentucky for provisions or to Workā€™s Mill in Clark County, near Charlestown. It was not long until Mr. Edwards built a mill on Clifty, just above the road that now crosses the creek. The next nearest mill was built by William Ramsey on the creek called Ramseyā€™s Fork of White River, next to the mill where Kent now is. The first fruit trees brought to the neighborhood were brought from Shelby Co., Ky., b y father and Peter VanCleave. Previous to Edwardsā€™ and Ramseysā€™ mills, father had built a hand mill. The neighbors brought corn and taking turns would grind it. It ground slow, being turned by hand, but it was toll free . We had to pen the sheep every night to keep the wolves from them. To exterminate the wolves as much as possible, the first settlers built pens to trap them. The pens were built of logs, generally split logs. The top w as so heavy a wolf could not raise it. It was constructed with a trigger to which the bait (a piece of meat) was fastened. The trigger was attached to a pole which held the lid or top of the pen up. When the wolf got in to the pen and pulled the meat the trap fell and Mr. Wolf was caught and killed, and $2 received for his scalp, which was the legal price for both ears. The people were more social then than they are now. They went ten or twelve miles to help one another roll logs or raise a house. The Indians would sometimes help, but they were very awkward. The men sometimes went 8, 10 or 12 miles to work the roads. Joshua Deputy told me some years ago that it cost him $12 one for failing to work one day. Before this county was organized, this county, Jennings, and Scott Counties all belonged to Cl ark County and we had to go to Charlestown to attend court. I have criticized Mr. Dinwiddie and Colonel Vawter, and I may be criticized by others, but I have given, as I have no doubt they did, what I believe to be fact s. I have lived within the bounds of what is now Jefferson County longer than any person now living. If these reminiscences will interest anyone, all right. I have been interviewed by a good many friends, and requested to write what I know about the first settling of the county. Now you have it Respectfully, Your fellow citizen John Smock P.S.ā€”There are some things I omitted to state in their proper place, so many thoughts were crowding themselves upon me. When the Indians came upon my grandfatherā€™s family in Kentucky, they were working in the clearing, opening a farm. Uncle John hid in a brush heap and might have escaped, but when he saw the Indians came upon my grandfatherā€™s family in Kentucky, they were working in the clearing, opening a farm. Uncle John hid in a b rush heap and might have escaped, but when he saw the Indians had caught Peter, he betrayed himself by crying. One of the Indians gave father a close chase for life; when father jumped the fence which enclosed a yard ar ound the house the Indian struck at him with his tomahawk, the lick falling on the top rail of the fence. The Indian then made tracks in the bushes, and the whole party hastened across the river as stated. Some of the Indians were filthy. I have already said I never knew them to take anything said I never knew them to take anything without asking for it. I will give a case at hand. Father had a large white sow to die one winter; she was in good order; she was dragged to the woods and thrown by a big log. Some two or three days after she was deposited there, one of Old Painterā€™s gang or company came to father and asked if he might have the hog. Father told him c-o-hon (yes); but asked him what he wanted it for. The Indian said ā€œto make venison.ā€ They skinned the hog, cut it up, and smoked it; I suppose they ate it. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2121 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-01-28 18:34:38 Subject:Re: Jonathan ROBINS, d 1816 Message: I've never seen any evidence at all indicating that Jonathan ROBINS (1694-1774) was married to anyone other than Dinah ------. However, the indication is that Dinah died 1742-1751. If true, then I would say it's very possible Jonathan ROBINS (1694-1774) married a second time. (The indication that Dinah died between 1742 and 1751 is based upon a third party needing to attest to her signing a deed dated 10 Mar 1742 when it was recorded/proved 5 Apr 1751.) Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:23 pm ((PST)) > Marshall, > > The ca. 1722 birth date for Jonathan from what I can see is an assumed > one. I've found no evidence Jonathan Robins b. 1694 was married twice, > just theory. I like your alternative theory on Jonathan 1742 as the > grandson of Jonathan 1694. It makes sense & eliminates the need for the > two Jonathan's born to Jonathan 1694. Was Dinah the only wife for > Jonathan Robins 1694 & mother of all his children? What are your > thoughts? > > Sara -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2122 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-01-28 21:36:24 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Jonathan ROBINS, d 1816 Message: Marshall, Appreciate your thoughts on Jonathan's marriage to Dinah & the possibility there could have been a second one after the death of Dinah. Welcome back. Thanks, Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 6:35 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Jonathan ROBINS, d 1816 I've never seen any evidence at all indicating that Jonathan ROBINS (1694-1774) was married to anyone other than Dinah ------. However, the indication is that Dinah died 1742-1751. If true, then I would say it's very possible Jonathan ROBINS (1694-1774) married a second time. (The indication that Dinah died between 1742 and 1751 is based upon a third party needing to attest to her signing a deed dated 10 Mar 1742 when it was recorded/proved 5 Apr 1751.) Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:23 pm ((PST)) > Marshall, > > The ca. 1722 birth date for Jonathan from what I can see is an assumed > one. I've found no evidence Jonathan Robins b. 1694 was married twice, > just theory. I like your alternative theory on Jonathan 1742 as the > grandson of Jonathan 1694. It makes sense & eliminates the need for the > two Jonathan's born to Jonathan 1694. Was Dinah the only wife for > Jonathan Robins 1694 & mother of all his children? What are your > thoughts? > > Sara -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2123 Sender:gheagy@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-29 07:59:42 Subject:Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon Co, NJ Message: From Isaac's Will we know he had children: 1) Vincent d. 1760 Hunterdon Co. NJ 2) Joseph d. aft 1755 3) Others who were minors in 1741. 1) Vincent's children: - Sarah - Obadiah d. aft 1810 Allegheny Co, PA - John - William Does anyone have information on Sarah, John, or William? 2) Joseph Does anyone have information on Joseph ? 3) Does anyone have information on the other children? - The theory is that Isaac of Nottingham, Washington County, PA, is one of them. - ? Daniel Robbins was living in Nottingham, Washington County, PA, in 1781. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2124 Sender:crisrobbins@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-29 11:00:40 Subject:Re: Vincent Robbins Shelby County, KY Message: I found this on http://www.ingenweb.org/injefferson/jeffbiographies.html William Robbins (deceased), the subject of this sketch, was born in Kentucky in 1794. He was brought up in perilous time from the wild beast of the country and the still wilder and more cruel men, the Indian. His first visit to Indiana Territory was in 1804, when he came to visit his mother's brother, John Rykere, who had a claim in Eagle Creek Valley, about three miles east of where Madison now is He bought flour, sugar and coffee to his uncle, luxuries which were not to be had at that time in the little settlement of Indiana. During this journey he saw deer, bears, panthers and various kinds of smaller game. He crossed the Ohio in a pirogue, his horse swimming by the side of the boat. In 1809 Mr. Robbins settled permanently in Jefferson County, or what was afterward so named, making his home with his uncle, Mason Watts, who had built a log cabin two miles north of the present site of Canaan. The indians were troublesome about this time, and he enlisted as a ranger, and was several months in that service, headquarters at Buchanan's Station. The company in which he served was along Indian Kentucky creek, and was commanded by James McCoy as captain; this was in 1811-1812. He was with Gen. W. H. Harrison when Detroit was taken, and at the battle of the River Thames were Tecumseh was killed; but just who fired that fatal shot he could never twll. After the war he settled on a tract of land, two and one-half miles north of Canaan, which he bought of the Government. He was married on the 21st of January, 1816, to Elizabeth Wildman, who was the daughter of James Wildman, an early settler. He was married by Elder Jesse Vawter. Mr. Robbins was a great hunter, and kept his family well supplied with meat by the use of his gun. Game of all kinds was plenty in the forest at that time -beasts and birds. He was in Madison at the first sale of lo ts by John Paul and Jonathan Lyons; the lots were about where the court-house now stands; they sold for about fifteen dollars apiece. The result of his marriage was eight children, who lived to the age of maturity, vis: Eliza, Mary A., James, Aaron, Elizabeth, Martha, Ryker and John W.; of these, two girls and four boys are now living (in 1888). Mr. Wm. Robbins died in 1884, at his son Aaron's; he had been blind for some years. He was a centenarian, and the last of his compeers to pass away to the Spirit Land. His wife died in 1856. He was a member of the B aptist Church for many years before his death. His youngest daughter, Martha, was married to James Christie, February 24, 1846, and to them were born two children: John W. and Mary Elizabeth. Her husband died July 11, 1850, and she re-married in October, 1855, t o William B. East, and to them were born five children, viz: George O., Ryker A., Minerva A., Fannie D. and Bailey S. Her second husband died January 26, 1865, and she married a third time, in 1884, to Enos Miles, who d ied in 1887. SHe still lives in the village of Bryantsburg. Her eldest son enlisted in the Tenth Reg. Ind. Vols., and served through the war. Mrs. Miles has raised her family almost unaided, and has been successful in giving all of them a good common-school education. She has lived to see all of her children grown and married. She has been an earnest member of the Methodist Episcopal Church for some twenty years. Jared D. Ryker, a representative of one of the earliest and first families of Jefferson county, and also one of the most prominent and successful farmers of the county, was born January 8, 1821, at the old Ryker homest ead, Jefferson county, Ind. His parents were John G. and Sarah Ryker (nee Jones), who were respectively born in Shelby and Boone counties, Ky. John G. Ryker was born August 9, 1793, and remvoed with his father, before h e became of age, to Jefferson county. His father was Geradus Ryker, a native of the State of New Jersey, born in 1769, who emigrated in the latter part of the last century to Shelby county, Ky., and subsequently to Jeff erson county, Ind., in about 1811. John G. Ryker was a soldier in the War of 1812, and was known as one of the "Rangers," and for his meritorious services drew a pension from the Government until the day of his death, in 1875. Jared D.'s maternal gra ndfather, David Jones, a Revolutionary soldier, emigrated from Kentucky and settled in an early day within two miles of what is now the village of Canaan. His mother Sarah Jones Ryker, was born in Kentucky, in 1798. He has three times been married; first in 1841, to Miss Eliza, grandaughter of Col. John Ryker, and of this union three children survive - Sarah, Jane and Mary Ann. His second wife was Miss Mary Howard, a native of Jefferson county, and two children of this union are also living - John and Permelius. His present wife, a very estimable and clever lady, was Miss Anna Harris, who is still living, and a native of England; this marriag e occured in 1857. The children by this marriage are Benjamin H., Walter H., Thaddeus H., Herbert H., Jared H. and Edgar H. Mr. Ryker has a farm of 361 scres of well-improved land, and is nearly the sole owner of the Madison, Ryker;s Ridge and Wolf Run Turnpike. He has long been one of the leading members of the Ryker;s Ridge Baptist Chu rch, and is one of its deacons. While Mr. Ryker did not receive any of the advantages of a collegiate ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2125 Sender:crisrobbins@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-29 12:12:01 Subject:Vinson Robins marriage to Charity Ryker Message: On the marriage record there was a Elias Heald mentioned along with Vinson on the document. He married into the Houghland family. Jefferson Kentucky was a hot bed of activity especially for Rachel Ryker Houghland Robb ins Smock. So much inter-marrying it's hard to keep it straight. Charity Ryker Robbins mother Rachel Ryker marries John Van Cleave. Hugh Conway marries Rachel Van Cleave in 1788 then 10 years later has three children wi th Charity Ryker Robbins first being Nancy Robens 1798-1825 / Henry Robens 1800-1838 and then Cynthia Robens Smith 1801-1868. All three children of this union stayed in Kentucky while mother Charity moves on to Indiana to live with Aaron William Robins until her death sometime between 1850-1860. I do not believe the theory that the Eagle Brown County Vincent Robbins was part of the Jefferson County Kentucky Ryker / Smock / Conway / Houghland / Van Cleave / Neald families. The Washburns never appeared to be in Jefferson Co. There is a record of them being in Shelby Co along with Vincent Robbins in 1795. The Washburns were in Bracken Co. in 1799 and shortly after crossed into Ohio. The only military record that i know for sur e is Vincent G. is the war of 1812 in Ohio. George and Azubia Washburn son Cornielus Washburn must have spent a great deal of time together since he named his son Vincent Robbins Washburn born in 1814 in Brown County. That's my theory and i'm sticking to it. Elias Nald Marriage Date: 27 May 1786 Marriage Place: Jefferson, Kentucky, USA Spouse: Rebecca Houghland Henry Houghland Gender: Male Marriage Date: 6 Jan 1791 Marriage Place: Jefferson, Kentucky, USA Spouse: Rachel Rycker Film Number: 000482706 Rebecca Houghland Marriage Date: 9 Oct 1828 Marriage Place: Scott, Indiana, USA Spouse: John Robins Rachel Ryker, daughter of Gerardus Ryker, the Revolutionary Kentucky pioneer, was married 3 times. Her first marriage was to Henry Houghland, Jan 5, 1791. [source--Jefferson County, Kentucky Marriages, Vol. 1, 1781-182 6, page 12: January 5, 1791, Rachel Ryker to Henry Houghland by Rev. Jeshus Morris] They lived at the fort for protection from the Indians, near where Lexington now is. The Indians killed Henry and she later married Wil liam Robbins on Dec. 31, 1793. [source--Shelby County Kentucky Marriages, Vol. 1: December 31, 1793, Rachel Houghland to William Robins.] They went to Tippicanoe, Indiana where he took part in the Indian War. He there t ook sick and died in 1795. Her third marriage was to Samuel Smock on Nov. 18, 1797, in Kentucky. [source--Early Kentucky Settlers, Marriage Bonds, 1797, Page 147: 18 November, Samuel Smock - Rachel Robins] This marriage lasted many years, producing 11 children. Samuel died July 5, 1833 in Indiana. Eli Neeld Jr Residence Place Bucks, Pennsylvania Event Type Index Monthly Meeting Fallsington Monthly Meeting Historical Meeting Data Fallsington Monthly Meeting Type (Orthodox or Hicksite) Pre-Separation/Orthodox/Primitive Yearly Meeting Philadelphia Yearly Meeting Meeting State Pennsylvania Meeting County Bucks ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2126 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-01-29 12:30:21 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vinson Robins marriage to Charity Ryker Message: Hi Cris, When someone separates from their wife, theyā€™re not likely to follow them. When a father leaves his family, what do you think the wife tells the children about him? Garry From: crisrobbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 2:12 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vinson Robins marriage to Charity Ryker On the marriage record there was a Elias Heald mentioned along with Vinson on the document. He married into the Houghland family. Jefferson Kentucky was a hot bed of activity especially for Rachel Ryker Houghland Robbi ns Smock. So much inter-marrying it's hard to keep it straight. Charity Ryker Robbins mother Rachel Ryker marries John Van Cleave. Hugh Conway marries Rachel Van Cleave in 1788 then 10 years later has three children wit h Charity Ryker Robbins first being Nancy Robens 1798-1825 / Henry Robens 1800-1838 and then Cynthia Robens Smith 1801-1868. All three children of this union stayed in Kentucky while mother Charity moves on to Indiana t o live with Aaron William Robins until her death sometime between 1850-1860. I do not believe the theory that the Eagle Brown County Vincent Robbins was part of the Jefferson County Kentucky Ryker / Smock / Conway / Houghland / Van C leave / Neald families. The Washburns never appeared to be in Jefferson Co. There is a record of them being in Shelby Co along with Vincent Robbins in 1795. The Washburns were in Bracken Co. in 1799 and shortly after crossed into Ohio. The only military record that i know for sur e is Vincent G. is the war of 1812 in Ohio. George and Azubia Washburn son Cornielus Washburn must have spent a great deal of time together since he named his son Vincent Robbins Washburn born in 1814 in Brown County. That's my theory and i'm sticking to it. Elias Nald Marriage Date: 27 May 1786 Marriage Place: Jefferson, Kentucky, USA Spouse: Rebecca Houghland Henry Houghland Gender: Male Marriage Date: 6 Jan 1791 Marriage Place: Jefferson, Kentucky, USA Spouse: Rachel Rycker Film Number: 000482706 Rebecca Houghland Marriage Date: 9 Oct 1828 Marriage Place: Scott, Indiana, USA Spouse: John Robins Rachel Ryker, daughter of Gerardus Ryker, the Revolutionary Kentucky pioneer, was married 3 times. Her first marriage was to Henry Houghland, Jan 5, 1791. [source--Jefferson County, Kentucky Marriages, Vol. 1, 1781-1826 , page 12: January 5, 1791, Rachel Ryker to Henry Houghland by Rev. Jeshus Morris] They lived at the fort for protection from the Indians, near where Lexington now is. The Indians killed Henry and she later married Will iam Robbins on Dec. 31, 1793. [source--Shelby County Kentucky Marriages, Vol. 1: December 31, 1793, Rachel Houghland to William Robins.] They went to Tippicanoe, Indiana where he took part in the Indian War. He there to ok sick and died in 1795. Her third marriage was to Samuel Smock on Nov. 18, 1797, in Kentucky. [source--Early Kentucky Settlers, Marriage Bonds, 1797, Page 147: 18 November, Samuel Smock - Rachel Robins] This marriage lasted many years, producing 11 children. Samuel died July 5, 1833 in Indiana. Eli Neeld Jr Residence Place Bucks, Pennsylvania Event Type Index Monthly Meeting Fallsington Monthly Meeting Historical Meeting Data Fallsington Monthly Meeting Type (Orthodox or Hicksite) Pre-Separation/Orthodox/Primitive Yearly Meeting Philadelphia Yearly Meeting Meeting State Pennsylvania Meeting County Bucks ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2127 Sender:tracey.marcelo@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-30 16:00:05 Subject:Vincent Robbins of Allegheny Co. and Mercer Co. Pennsylvania Message: I found yet another Vincent Robbins in the "Mahoning Valley" area of Pennsylvania and Ohio. I wonder if he is the same as the Vincent Robbins who we are following in Brown Co. Ohio--because of the geographic location. Wikipedia has a very interesting article about Mahoning Valley at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahoning_Valley 1800 Allegheny Co. PA tax list: Vincent Robbins, Neshanock twp. http://interactive.ancestry.com/2702/33017_263379-00081?pid=739617&backurl=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26db%3DPASeptennialCensus%26h%3D739617%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DSEh173 4%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26rhSource%3D3567&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=SEh1734&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true A very long list of tax holders in 1800 Neshannock can be found on pages 147-148 of History of Mercer County, Pennsylvania at: https://archive.org/details/historyofmercerc00unse 1802 Pymatuning twp. Mercer Co. tax list Vincent Robbins Page 157 of History of Mercer Co. Allegheny Co. PA marriages: Vincent ROBINS and Margaret ALEXANDER 19 Aug 1800 One other ROBINS was in the list: Wm. DAVIDSON & Eliz. ROBINS 18 Feb 1802 Source: http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/allegheny/vitals/eliztwpmar1792-1815.txt A mention of the Pymatuning township property of Vincent Robins in the Laws of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania:Apr 4 1799-Apr 6, 1802: March 12, 1802. "Sect V. And be it further enacted by the authority aforesaid That Pymatuning township and that part of the Neshanock township in the county aforesaid which lies north of the donation land in the third donation district, be a separate election district, and the electors thereof shall hold their general election at the house not occupied by Vincent Robbins in Pymatuning township." See: https://books.google.com/books?id=c_1BAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA240&lpg=PA240&dq=Vincent+Robbins+Mercer+Pennsylvania&source=bl&ots=OfPNsnV7gX&sig=9Z-aNtZQJsZbsrdfTZfaLIHJVbU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjA5OLP1pPSAhXk54MKHb7aAsUQ6AEIRzAH #v=onepage&q=Vincent%20Robbins%20Mercer%20Pennsylvania&f=false Pennsylvania Land Warrants: Name: Vincent Robins Warrant Date: 11 Feb 1803 Warrant Place: Pymatuning Township, Mercer Source: http://interactive.ancestry.com/2350/33019_b078910-00460?pid=170842&backurl=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DSEh1718%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26db%3DPAWarrants %26gss%3Dangs-d%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26gsln%3DRobbins%26gsln_x%3D0%26gskw%3DCumberland%26MSAV%3D1%26uidh%3Dfdi%26pcat%3D36%26fh%3D56%26h%3D170842%26recoff%3D6%26fsk%3DBEHpYewIgAAJLgACDKk-61-%26bsk%3D%26pgoff%3D%26ml_rpo s%3D57&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=SEh1718&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true#?imageId=33019_b078910-00461 Name: Vincent Robins Warrant Date: 11 Feb 1803 Warrant Place: Mercer This one says he started constructing his residence on the Ohio River land in February 1798. And that he built a shingled house and lives there with his family. He was settled there before 21 October 1801 https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/2350/33021_263247-00510?pid=280773&backurl=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DSEh1721%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26db%3DPAWarrants%26g ss%3Dangs-d%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26gsfn%3DVincent%26gsfn_x%3D0%26gsln%3DRobbins%26gsln_x%3D0%26MSAV%3D1%26uidh%3Dfdi%26pcat%3D36%26fh%3D1%26h%3D280773%26recoff%3D5%25206%26ml_rpos%3D2&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=tr ue&_phsrc=SEh1721&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true#?imageId=33021_263247-00510 Mercer Co. Pennsylvania deeds: Vincent Robbins and Mary his wife of Mercer County sell land called Sugar Hill in Pymatuning twp to James McDermit 4 June 1805. Book A, pages 293-294 Vincent Robbins and Mary his wife of Mercer County sell land in Pymatuning twp to Elias Jones of Frederick County Virginia 13 June 1805 Book A, pages 503-504 Vincent Robbins and Mary his wife of Mercer County sell land in Pymatuning twp to Martin Cunningham of Crawford County, Pennsylvania 16 July 1805 Book A, page 510 Because Trumbull Co. Ohio is considered part of the Mahoning Valley, I'm including a couple of the tax lists from Trumbull in which a Vincent Robbins is listed. (These came from Ancestry.com and unfortunately are not linked to images so there's no good way to see who else we might recognize among the other people in the lists.) 1804 Vincent Robbins, Brookfield, Trumbull Co. Ohio 1806 Vincent Robbins, 6th Collection Dist, Trumbull Co. Ohio ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2129 Sender:tracey.marcelo@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-30 13:00:40 Subject:Heirs at law of William Robbins of Bethlehem, Hunterdon Co. NJ; heirs lived in Columbia Co. PA Message: Hi, While looking for other things I found a record that talks about the children of William Robbins (d. 1811) of Bethlehem Hunterdon NJ. All of the following heirs and their spouses lived in Columbia County Pennsylvania: Daniel Welliver and Charity Robins (Derry twp) Valentine Christian and Rebecca Robins (Derry twp) Herman Kline and Diana Robins (Greenwood twp) Daniel Robins and Catherine (Sugar Loaf twp) John Robins and Mary (Sugar Loaf twp) Thomas Robins (Fishing Creek) Jonathan Robins (Greenwood twp) William Robins, deceased, of Bethlehem Hunterdon NJ is referred to as their father and they are referred to as the heirs at law. The first 5 children I listed above give power of attorney to Thomas and Jonathan to dispose of the property of William Robins deceased. Witnessed in Columbia Co. PA by Jacob Swisher, Sarah Swisher, Catherine Swisher, George Kline, Elizabeth Bellas First record seems to be 1814. Recorded in 1816. Source: Hunterdon Co. New Jersey Special Deeds, v. 1-2 1730-1847. https://www.familysearch.org/search/film/007895625?cat=219884 Pages 222 - 229 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS4F-XSZ5-D?i=324&cat=219884 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS4F-XSZ5-D?i=324&cat=219884 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2130 Sender:gheagy@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-30 07:19:43 Subject:Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon Co, NJ Message: Concerning 2) Joseph: - In the 1755 land transaction, when Joseph and Vincent sell their land are there any other details given? - Isaac says in his Will that Joseph is not to receive land until his wife dies, probably Asubia has died by 1755? - Are there any other records that might pertain to Joseph? Thanks, Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2131 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-01-29 21:39:46 Subject:Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon Co, NJ Message: No direct proof, but based upon circumstantial evidence I believe Sarah Ann ROBINS is a daughter of Isaac ROBINS (1700-1741) and Asubia THATCHER. Sarah Ann b 1736, d 1823, mar John LAKE (son of Thomas LAKE & Jannetie/Jane STRYKER) in 1756. John LAKE & Sarah Ann ROBINS had children (in sequence): Isaac, Thomas, Sarah Elizabeth, Cornelius, Jane, Azubah, Ann, Margaret, Mary & John. The only thing I have for Joseph is that he and his brother, Vincent, sold 200 acres in Amwell Township, Hunterdon County, New Jersey to Job ROBINS in 1755. I don't have anything for the children of Vincent. > Posted by: gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:59 am ((PST)) > >> From Isaac's Will we know he had children: > 1) Vincent d. 1760 Hunterdon Co. NJ > 2) Joseph d. aft 1755 > 3) Others who were minors in 1741. > > 1) Vincent's children: > - Sarah > - Obadiah d. aft 1810 Allegheny Co, PA > - John > - William > Does anyone have information on Sarah, John, or William? > > 2) Joseph > Does anyone have information on Joseph ? > > 3) Does anyone have information on the other children? > - The theory is that Isaac of Nottingham, Washington County, PA, is one of them. > - ? Daniel Robbins was living in Nottingham, Washington County, PA, in 1781. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2132 Sender:crisrobbins@... Post Date/Time:2018-01-29 11:05:21 Subject:Re: Vincent Robbins Shelby County, KY Message: I thought this was interesting. Shelby County, Kentucky Marriages 1792 - 1800 Smock, Samuel Robins, Rachel 18 Nov 1797 Robins, Betheir Roberts, Silvestil 11 Feb 1800 Robins, James Lastly, Mary 09 Jul 1797 Robins, Rachel Smock, Samuel 18 Nov 1797 Robins, Rebecca Forguson, Andrew 21 Oct 1800 Robins, WIlliam Hogland, Rachel 31 Dec 1793 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2133 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-01-31 08:29:16 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon Co, NJ Message: Marshall, Was Asubia's maiden name Thatcher? I don't have this information for her. Thanks, Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 9:40 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon Co, NJ No direct proof, but based upon circumstantial evidence I believe Sarah Ann ROBINS is a daughter of Isaac ROBINS (1700-1741) and Asubia THATCHER. Sarah Ann b 1736, d 1823, mar John LAKE (son of Thomas LAKE & Jannetie/Jane STRYKER) in 1756. John LAKE & Sarah Ann ROBINS had children (in sequence): Isaac, Thomas, Sarah Elizabeth, Cornelius, Jane, Azubah, Ann, Margaret, Mary & John. The only thing I have for Joseph is that he and his brother, Vincent, sold 200 acres in Amwell Township, Hunterdon County, New Jersey to Job ROBINS in 1755. I don't have anything for the children of Vincent. > Posted by: gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:59 am ((PST)) > >> From Isaac's Will we know he had children: > 1) Vincent d. 1760 Hunterdon Co. NJ > 2) Joseph d. aft 1755 > 3) Others who were minors in 1741. > > 1) Vincent's children: > - Sarah > - Obadiah d. aft 1810 Allegheny Co, PA > - John > - William > Does anyone have information on Sarah, John, or William? > > 2) Joseph > Does anyone have information on Joseph ? > > 3) Does anyone have information on the other children? > - The theory is that Isaac of Nottingham, Washington County, PA, is one of them. > - ? Daniel Robbins was living in Nottingham, Washington County, PA, in 1781. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2134 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-01-28 17:34:34 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins Shelby County, KY Message: Garry, I enjoyed reading the entertaining article on pioneer life by John Smock. His information fills in some blanks & what is new to me is regarding his mother Rachel Ryker Hoagland Robbins, all her children & third marriage to his father Samuel Smock. Also the description of the Smock familyā€™s migration pattern from NY to NJ to VA to PA to KY & IN was especially interesting after following the postings on Vincent Robins, Sr. & the places he traveled on the same frontier. Thank you for locating this article. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 6:17 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Vincent Robbins Shelby County, KY This is an interesting article. From Jefferson County Local History: John Smock of Hanover Township Reminiscences of a Jefferson County Pioneer Published in the Madison Courier ā€“ June 26, 1874; July 3, 1874 As so many have been writing reminiscences of early life, I will give you mine, prefacing it with great-grandfathers and great-great-grandfather Jacob Smock. He was born in Amsterdam Holland; came to American before the Revolutionary War, I think about the year 1765. He came to New York and was married to Catherine Demaree. He built a house in the city which was burned with nearly everything they had in it. During the war, General Was hington sent him with a company to drive a drove of horses into the wildness to prevent them falling into the hands of the British. That company was called the ā€œCane Boys.ā€ I do not know that he rendered any other services to the Colonies in that war. He moved from New York to New Jersey; from New Jersey to Virginia, where great -grandfather was born in Hanover County. They moved from Virg inia to Pennsylvania; from Pennsylvania they, with several other families, floated down the Ohio River to the falls. There they disembarked and went to Mercer County, Kentucky; settled near Danville; moved from Mercer C ounty to Shelby County and settled on a creek called Bullskin, six or seven miles west of Shelbyville. Here they were very much annoyed by the Indians. I had one uncle killed (Matthew Smock), and two uncles taken prison ers, Peter and John Smock. Father was wounded in the arm at the same time. I also had a cousin tomahawked and scalped and left for dead, but he survived, got well and lived some years afterwards. His name was Isaac Robb ins, brother to William Robbins, an early settler in Shelby Township, in Jefferson County, Indiana. My motherā€™s maiden name was Rachel Ryker; she had two husbands killed by the Indians; her first was Henry Hoghland. She had one son by this marriage and named him Henry, after his father. He married Miss Jane Peters of Jefferson County, and died in Harrison County, Ind. They both belonged to the Methodist church, in good standing, until their death. Motherā€™s second husband was William Robbins (he was killed stated). She had one daught er by this marriage who married Booth Thomas; they both died in Jennings County, Indiana. The same band of Indians who scalped young Robbins took my uncles prisoners, and then left for the Indian country, across the Ohi o. Where they crossed the river, and what they done. When the alarm guns were fired the neighbors soon collected and followed the Indian trail to the river, but the Indians had just got across, and the men had to return without rescuing the prisoners or getting a shot at the redskins. The Indians crossed the Ohio just below the mouth of Clifty Creek and then came to the river and camped at the root of a big poplar tree that stood where the courthouse now is. They remained three days, si nging and dancing and then started for their town on ā€œFlat Rock,ā€ going up Crooked Creek to the highlands. Peter fared pretty well. Old Winnemac adopted him into his family in place of a son he had lost. John fared wors e, often roasting wild turkey guts or eating them raw. Winnemacā€™s old squaw, with some young ones, took Peter into the river to wash the white blood out of him to make an Indian of him. He got one of them down in the water and was about to drown her, but the others rescued her. It pleased Winnemac very much to see him outdo the squaws. The old woman would take him to hoe corn; he wouldnā€™t hoe worth a cent. She then made him take the papoose to take care of; he would pinch it and make it c ry. That pleased Winnemac; he said he was no squawā€”he would make a brave; a good warrior. They were with the Indians some eighteen months of two years. General Wayne had a treaty with the Indians at Greenville. Grandfather took a keg of rum and went to the treat. He got a French Canadian, an Indian trader, to buy the boys. They both lived to raise families. Peter was a very strong, stout man, weighing over 200 pounds. John was not so large. They both lived in Marion Co. Ind. Peter knew of one or two silver mines, but he could not tell where they were. He also knew them to make salt. From what he told me, I think the salt water was probably in Jackson or Lawrence County; he said it was a salt spring, boiled up and ran about twenty feet, and sank again. They carried the water as much as a mile to boi l it, not cutting a stick of timber near by the spring. Before they left the country, they covered the spring up carefully so no whites could find it. Before the battle of Tippecanoe, there was a half-blood Indian by th e name of Elliott on his way to join Gen. Harrison that stayed all night with Uncle Peter. He said if he lived to get back he would take him (Uncle Peter) to the salt spring and silver mine. He never returned ā€“ whether was killed or not, we donā€™t know. Something I know. I was born in Shelby Co. Ky., on a small stream called Fox Run, a tributary of Bullskin, in the spring of 1805. My father, Col. Samuel Smock, came to the Indian Territory, or New Purchase, as it was called, put up a log cabin at what has generally been known as Smockā€™s Big Spring, the place where the widow Morton now lives, almost three miles southwest of Hanover in Jefferson County. He enclosed about three acres of ground with a rude brush fence and some rails, planted it with corn the last of May or first of June. It made a good crop, yielding, as he thought 80 bushels of corn per acre. There was only one family of whites nearer than fourteen miles on this side of the river. There were plenty of Indians. The white family was Mason Watts. His wife, Debby, was a sister to my mother. They lived where Capt ain Robert Kyle now lives, half a mile south of Hanover. Mrs. Watts was equal to the vicissitudes and privations of a new wilderness home. She cut down with an axe; and the use of her own stalwart arms, a black walnut t ree; cut off a log the length she wanted it split, dressed cut the pieces and made the first loom ever made in Jefferson County. Late in the fall of 1805 we started to move to the home; we got to the top of the hill on the Kentucky side late in the evening; stayed all night at a Mr. John Cumminsā€™. Next morning one of the teams returned to Shelby and the other teamster, Samuel Ryker (my uncle), cut a good sized beach sapling and chained it to the hind axle-tree, leaving the brush on to help to keep the wagon back from crowding on the horses too much. We crossed the river at Monroeā€™s Ferry at or near the mouth of Corn Creek, Ky. I think William Y. Monroeā€™s father or grandfather kept the ferry. When we started from Mr. Cumminsā€™ in the morning to go down to the river, each one of the children that was big enough to carry anything down the hill had to carry something. It fell to me to carry a pretty large bread tray. There being a heavy, white frost, I put the tray down and got on it. I went Jehu-like until it happened to run against a bank formed by a tree falling out by the roots. For that adventure and piece of fun, I got the last ā€œbackā€ rations I ever got in Old Kentucky. Over the River and Far Away. There was no wagon to be had on this side of the river. Father had constructed a vehicle somewhat in the fashion of what the boys, used to call ā€œjumper.ā€ In this wise, taking two poles, cutting the binder end a little s lanting to make it slide easy, having an auger hole in the other end to fasten it to the hames, then putting a box on the poles behind the horse. The goods were placed in the box, and hauled it about six miles. At this time there was plenty of wild game in the woods, deer, bear, turkeys, wolves, raccoons, opossums, and a little highly performed animal they called a pole-cat. Also, foxes, some panthers and wild-cats with quite a supply of copperhead and rattle snakes. I have stated that Mason Watts was an early settler, among others there were Lafe Hardin, John Chism, Daniel Robbins, Evan Thomas and his several sons, William McCleland, Phillip Coryea, Isaac Hall, George Gess, Matthew Cooley, Amos Chitwood, Joshua Tull, Jas. Smith, Bazel Maxwell, John Maxwell, William and John Anderson, James Blankenship, John Chambers Sr., Alexander Chambers, Michael Monroe, Felix Monroe, John Barnes, James Arbuckl e, Willis F. Sullivan, Daniel Sullivan, Christopher Harrison, David H. Maxwell and others. Mason Watts was succeeded by Robert Henderson; Daniel Robbins by James Matthews, where William Matthews now lives, Christopher H arrison was succeeded by George Logan. After the lands were surveyed, there was steady emigration until 1812. Williamson Dunn, Benj. Whitson, Methodist minister, and school teacher, (first teacher was Thomas McIntire, t hen old Mr. Condrey). The cave at Big Spring was first explored by Isaac Hall and an Indian. It occurred in this way: Evan Thomas, living where James Cochrane now lives, had a tub of thread in cave soaking the lev out of it; there came a big freshet and washed the tub away. One or two skeins of the thread were found hanging on a crag of the rock at the mouth of the cave by the creek, between half to three quarters from where it started. Isaac Hall and the Indian then went hunting the thread and the tub. In 1812, the time of the Indian troubles, a good many of the settlers left the country and went across the river to Kentucky. My father and others stayed and built block houses and forts. Samuel Smock was the first Justice of the Peace and the first Postmaster ever commissioned within the present bounds of in Jefferson County; the Smockville post office being the first established in the county. General Harrison was then Governor of the Territory. I believe Thomas Posey of Virginia was the first Governor, but I am not certain. The lands were not surveyed when we came to the Territory. A Mr. Harris surveyed the lands in the district of the Jeffersonville land office. Thomas Harris carried the United States mail from Lawrenceburg to Jeffersonville, He lived where Mr. Lund now lives, on the Hanover Pike. The roads at that time were bad and he suffered a great deal in the winter, but he was faithful to the Government through wet, and dry, heat and cold. He was of the Methodist denomination. The place where my father settled, Big Spring, proved to be the 16th section, reserved by an act of Congress for school purposes, consequently, he could not enter it; he entered 160 acres up the creek where Robert Taylo r lived and died. He swapped with Wm. James for place where Mr. George Millican now lives. Mr. James and Mr. Early, his brother-in-law joined the Shakers and left the neighborhood and went to Brearam on the Wabash. When the news came of the Pigeon Roost murder a good many left and went across the river, leaving their stock and most of their goods. Several families went that night to James Andersonā€™s Fort, three-quarters of a mile south of where Hanover now is. Our family, all went there except father. Court was then sitting in Madison, William McFarland being presiding judge, and Samuel Smock, and William Cotton of Switzerland County were Associ ate Judges. Father came home, put up his horse, ate his supper and went to bed, keeping the fort until morning and then surrendered it to mother, who had returned with the family and others. The Provoke A family by the name of Collins were the principal sufferers at the ā€œPigeon Roost.ā€ Mr. Collins had offended some Indians by ordering them off his place, using language and threats which would under our present laws amo unt to provoke. The Indians then threatened him, hence the murder. Some have charged White-Eyes with it, but I think he was innocent as he was not with the company that was insulted by Mr. Collins, though I think it was probable he was in the battle of ā€œTippecanoe, as he was absent from the settlement for some time. Old Painter had a wigwam on the creek at the mouth of the spring branch, and below the Big Spring where the Latta family now live. The woods caught fire one fall and burned his shanty. He accused the whites of burning it, and there were some fears he would do some mischief, but he left the country. His shanty was constructed with poles c overed with lynn and buckeye bark peeled when the sap was up. It was what was called a ā€œthree-faced cabinā€ ā€“ three walls and open in front. How Nealā€™s Creek Got Its Name After peace was made in 1814, the country was settled very fast. Among others, a man by the name of Jesse Neal came. One winter night a comfortable snow fell; next morning he took his gun and went hunting; It was cloudy and snowed that day. It being cloudy and no sun to be seen, he got lost. He wandered about, crossing his own tracks several times, until I suppose he was tired down. He creeped into a hollow log in the creek bottom, wh ere he was frozen stiff. The creek has been called Nealā€™s Creek ever since. It empties in Big Creek near Paris. Home of the Privation Encountered For a few years we had to go to Kentucky for provisions or to Workā€™s Mill in Clark County, near Charlestown. It was not long until Mr. Edwards built a mill on Clifty, just above the road that now crosses the creek. The next nearest mill was built by William Ramsey on the creek called Ramseyā€™s Fork of White River, next to the mill where Kent now is. The first fruit trees brought to the neighborhood were brought from Shelby Co., Ky., by father and Peter VanCleave. Previous to Edwardsā€™ and Ramseysā€™ mills, father had built a hand mill. The neighbors brought corn and taking turns would grind it. It ground slow, being turned by hand, but it was toll free. We had to pen the sheep every night to keep the wolves from them. To exterminate the wolves as much as possible, the first settlers built pens to trap them. The pens were built of logs, generally split logs. The top wa s so heavy a wolf could not raise it. It was constructed with a trigger to which the bait (a piece of meat) was fastened. The trigger was attached to a pole which held the lid or top of the pen up. When the wolf got int o the pen and pulled the meat the trap fell and Mr. Wolf was caught and killed, and $2 received for his scalp, which was the legal price for both ears. The people were more social then than they are now. They went ten or twelve miles to help one another roll logs or raise a house. The Indians would sometimes help, but they were very awkward. The men sometimes went 8, 1 0 or 12 miles to work the roads. Joshua Deputy told me some years ago that it cost him $12 one for failing to work one day. Before this county was organized, this county, Jennings, and Scott Counties all belonged to Cla rk County and we had to go to Charlestown to attend court. I have criticized Mr. Dinwiddie and Colonel Vawter, and I may be criticized by others, but I have given, as I have no doubt they did, what I believe to be facts . I have lived within the bounds of what is now Jefferson County longer than any person now living. If these reminiscences will interest anyone, all right. I have been interviewed by a good many friends, and requested t o write what I know about the first settling of the county. Now you have it Respectfully, Your fellow citizen John Smock P.S.ā€”There are some things I omitted to state in their proper place, so many thoughts were crowding themselves upon me. When the Indians came upon my grandfatherā€™s family in Kentucky, they were working in the clearing, opening a farm. Uncle John hid in a brush heap and might have escaped, but when he saw the Indians came upon my grandfatherā€™s family in Kentucky, they were working in the clearing, opening a farm. Uncle John hid in a br ush heap and might have escaped, but when he saw the Indians had caught Peter, he betrayed himself by crying. One of the Indians gave father a close chase for life; when father jumped the fence which enclosed a yard aro und the house the Indian struck at him with his tomahawk, the lick falling on the top rail of the fence. The Indian then made tracks in the bushes, and the whole party hastened across the river as stated. Some of the Indians were filthy. I have already said I never knew them to take anything said I never knew them to take anything without asking for it. I will give a case at hand. Father had a large white sow to die one winter; she was in good order; she was dragged to the woods and thrown by a big log. Some two or three days after she was deposited there, one of Old Painterā€™s gang or company came to father and asked if he might have t he hog. Father told him c-o-hon (yes); but asked him what he wanted it for. The Indian said ā€œto make venison.ā€ They skinned the hog, cut it up, and smoked it; I suppose they ate it. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2135 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-02-01 11:59:28 Subject:Moderator Help Message: I receive a daily digest for this group. I haven't received a digest in several days even though new messages were posted several days ago. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2136 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-02-01 13:03:59 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Moderator Help Message: Tod, I'm also having problems posting & receiving mail from the group. Can you help us? Thanks, Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:59 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Moderator Help I receive a daily digest for this group. I haven't received a digest in several days even though new messages were posted several days ago. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2137 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-02-01 13:08:28 Subject:Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon Co, NJ Message: Marfy Goodspeed states this in the article: https://goodspeedhistories.com/the-sergeantsville-inn/ It's not 100% clear in the article how Marfy attributes THATCHER to Azubah. I'll write to Marfy seeking clarification. > Marshall, > > Was Asubiaļæ½s maiden name Thatcher? I donļæ½t have this information for > her. > > Thanks, > > Sara > > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 9:40 PM > > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon > > Co, NJ > > > > No direct proof, but based upon circumstantial evidence I believe > > Sarah Ann ROBINS is a daughter of Isaac ROBINS (1700-1741) and Asubia > > THATCHER. Sarah Ann b 1736, d 1823, mar John LAKE (son of Thomas LAKE > > & Jannetie/Jane STRYKER) in 1756. John LAKE & Sarah Ann ROBINS had > > children (in sequence): Isaac, Thomas, Sarah Elizabeth, Cornelius, > > Jane, Azubah, Ann, Margaret, Mary & John. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2138 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-02-01 13:55:42 Subject:Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon Co, NJ Message: I don't have anything else for Joseph. The land tranaction comes from Sara & John TAYLOR's 2006 book "Robins/Robbins of New Jersey", Page 8, 1st paragraph. I have nothing more than that. As for Asubia/Azubah ... I have that she died the same year as her spouse, Isaac, 1741. I got this from Cynthia Joan Victor , 14 Aug 2015. Is Cynthia on this mailing list? > gheagy@... > Jan 30 > > Concerning 2) Joseph: > > - In the 1755 land transaction, when Joseph and Vincent sell their land > are there any other details given? > > - Isaac says in his Will that Joseph is not to receive land until his > wife dies, probably Asubia has died by 1755? > > - Are there any other records that might pertain to Joseph? > > Thanks, > Garry -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2139 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-02-01 15:57:17 Subject:Moderator, Question Message: The Message History calendar at the bottom of the home page for the Robbins Family Society goes back to Oct 2010. It seems to me this group existed before then. How do members access messages before Oct 2010 (if there were any)? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2140 Sender:Cynthia Victor Post Date/Time:2018-02-01 16:18:46 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon Co, NJ Message: Yes I am Marshall. Cynthia > On Feb 1, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > I don't have anything else for Joseph. The land tranaction comes from > Sara & John TAYLOR's 2006 book "Robins/Robbins of New Jersey", Page 8, 1st > paragraph. I have nothing more than that. > > As for Asubia/Azubah ... I have that she died the same year as her spouse, > Isaac, 1741. I got this from Cynthia Joan Victor > , 14 Aug 2015. Is Cynthia on this mailing list? > > > gheagy@... > > Jan 30 > > > > Concerning 2) Joseph: > > > > - In the 1755 land transaction, when Joseph and Vincent sell their land > > are there any other details given? > > > > - Isaac says in his Will that Joseph is not to receive land until his > > wife dies, probably Asubia has died by 1755? > > > > - Are there any other records that might pertain to Joseph? > > > > Thanks, > > Garry > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2141 Sender:Cynthia Victor Post Date/Time:2018-02-01 16:58:04 Subject:Asubia Robbins Message: I have used this as circumstantial evidence as well. However, am confused if Amos Thatcher is her brother or father. I do not have her parents on my tree due to that confusion. Marfy Goodspeed has other articles on the Robins family as well. There is a lot of info in, The Two Taverns at Robins Hill. They were all neighbors so it does make sense. I also believe, there were articles Marfy published in a local paper about. Thatcher Burying Ground that discussed this topic. I will try a dig them out. I also have had trouble proving who exactly is Lydia Prall married to Amos Thatcher. I have contacted the Prall Family Association (I think his name was Terry Prall) and the have nothing on Lydia and was told Lydia was not usual family name. Terry told me he has had numerous inquiries about her over the years and no answers. I thought someone recently mentioned that Lydia was a Robbins. Which does make sense. I wonder if Lydia was a Robins by birth, a widow of a Prall then married Amos. Just donā€™t have any evidence. Cyn ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2142 Sender:Cynthia Victor Post Date/Time:2018-02-01 16:59:14 Subject:Isaac Robins Will Abstract Message: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2143 Sender:Cynthia Victor Post Date/Time:2018-02-01 17:16:21 Subject:Isaac Robbins Will Abstract Message: Cynthia ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2144 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-02-01 19:03:20 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon Co, NJ Message: Cynthia, Can you verify that Asubia/Azubah (spouse of Isaac ROBINS, d 1741) died in the same year as her husband (1741)? Please tell me what tells you this. > Posted by: "Cynthia Victor" cjvictor8855@... cjvictor8855 > Date: Thu Feb 1, 2018 3:18 pm ((PST)) > > Yes I am Marshall. > > Cynthia > > Posted by: "Marshall Lake" mlake@... mlake692000 > > Date: Thu Feb 1, 2018 2:17 pm ((PST)) > > > > As for Asubia/Azubah ... I have that she died the same year as her > > spouse, Isaac, 1741. I got this from Cynthia Joan Victor > > , 14 Aug 2015. Is Cynthia on this mailing > > list? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2145 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-02-01 19:30:57 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon Co, NJ Message: Marfy's belief that the birth name of Asubia/Azubah (spouse of Isaac ROBINS d. 1741) is THATCHER is based upon circumstantial evidence. Marfy says: "Isaac Robins will named his wife Asubia and friend Amos Thatcher as executors. It is my understanding that Amos was Azubia's brother. One of Amos' daughters was named Azobah. But records pertaining to their father Bartholomew Thatcher are very sketchy. In fact, Bart seems to have been a kind of sketchy guy. He moved around a lot, and I haven't found an estate for him. So--it looks like I've got nothing but circumstantial evidence. Sorry I don't have more for you." I'm glad you asked, Sara! > Posted by: "Marshall Lake" mlake@... mlake692000 > Date: Thu Feb 1, 2018 1:55 pm ((PST)) > > Marfy Goodspeed states this in the article: > https://goodspeedhistories.com/the-sergeantsville-inn/ > > It's not 100% clear in the article how Marfy attributes THATCHER to > Azubah. I'll write to Marfy seeking clarification. > > Was Asubia?s maiden name Thatcher? I don?t have this information for > > her. > > > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 9:40 PM > > > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon > > > Co, NJ > > > > > > No direct proof, but based upon circumstantial evidence I believe > > > Sarah Ann ROBINS is a daughter of Isaac ROBINS (1700-1741) and > > > Asubia THATCHER. Sarah Ann b 1736, d 1823, mar John LAKE (son of > > > Thomas LAKE & Jannetie/Jane STRYKER) in 1756. John LAKE & Sarah Ann > > > ROBINS had children (in sequence): Isaac, Thomas, Sarah Elizabeth, > > > Cornelius, Jane, Azubah, Ann, Margaret, Mary & John. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2146 Sender:Cynthia Victor Post Date/Time:2018-02-01 19:58:22 Subject:The Kitchen Cemetery ā€“ GOODSPEED HISTORIES Message: Found the article Marcy wrote about Kitchen Family Cemetery that has some Thatcher info. https://goodspeedhistories.com/the-kitchen-cemetery/ Sent from my iPad ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2147 Sender:"todd.d.robbins@..." Post Date/Time:2018-02-01 20:21:40 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Moderator Help Message: Hello all, I'm checking the group settings right now. I'll update you again once I finish checking on what's happening. On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 1:03 PM, 'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > Tod, > > Iā€™m also having problems posting & receiving mail from the group. Can you > help us? > > Thanks, > > > Sara > > > > > > > > *From:* robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@ > yahoogroups.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:59 AM > *To:* ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List yahoogroups.com> > *Subject:* [robbinsfamilysociety] Moderator Help > > > > > > > I receive a daily digest for this group. I haven't received a digest in > several days even though new messages were posted several days ago. > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net > > > -- Tod Robbins, MLIS todrobbins.com | @todrobbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2148 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-02-01 21:00:40 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon Co, NJ Message: Marshall, The theory for Asubia as the daughter of Bartholomew Thatcher has been tossed around for years. I wondered if someone had recently verified this information when I saw your post. Thanks for checking it out. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 7:31 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon Co, NJ Marfy's belief that the birth name of Asubia/Azubah (spouse of Isaac ROBINS d. 1741) is THATCHER is based upon circumstantial evidence. Marfy says: "Isaac Robins will named his wife Asubia and friend Amos Thatcher as executors. It is my understanding that Amos was Azubia's brother. One of Amos' daughters was named Azobah. But records pertaining to their father Bartholomew Thatcher are very sketchy. In fact, Bart seems to have been a kind of sketchy guy. He moved around a lot, and I haven't found an estate for him. So--it looks like I've got nothing but circumstantial evidence. Sorry I don't have more for you." I'm glad you asked, Sara! > Posted by: "Marshall Lake" mlake@... mlake692000 > Date: Thu Feb 1, 2018 1:55 pm ((PST)) > > Marfy Goodspeed states this in the article: > https://goodspeedhistories.com/the-sergeantsville-inn/ > > It's not 100% clear in the article how Marfy attributes THATCHER to > Azubah. I'll write to Marfy seeking clarification. > > Was Asubia?s maiden name Thatcher? I don?t have this information for > > her. > > > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 9:40 PM > > > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon > > > Co, NJ > > > > > > No direct proof, but based upon circumstantial evidence I believe > > > Sarah Ann ROBINS is a daughter of Isaac ROBINS (1700-1741) and > > > Asubia THATCHER. Sarah Ann b 1736, d 1823, mar John LAKE (son of > > > Thomas LAKE & Jannetie/Jane STRYKER) in 1756. John LAKE & Sarah Ann > > > ROBINS had children (in sequence): Isaac, Thomas, Sarah Elizabeth, > > > Cornelius, Jane, Azubah, Ann, Margaret, Mary & John. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2149 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-02-01 23:11:44 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] The Kitchen Cemetery - GOODSP EED HISTORIES Message: Cynthia & group, Thank you Cynthia for referring us to the excellent article by Marfy Goodspeed on the Kitchen Cemetery. I'm not a Kitchen family researcher, anyhow I enjoyed reading their history & seeing the graveyard photos. There were a couple of things that stood out. 1. Marfy gives the family history of Henry Kitchen (1680-1745) & his wife Ann Wheeler of Hunterdon Co., NJ. It was interesting to me since the topic of Vincent Robins has been discussed here in the past week. The 1800 census for Greenwood, Northumberland Co., PA. lists a Vincent Robins & William Robins ages 26-44. The same census lists the names Samuel Kitchen & Wheeler Kitchen ages 26-44. Possibly, Samuel & Wheeler Kitchen were related to Vincent & William Robins through Ann Kitchen wife of Vincent Robins b. ca. 1723 in NJ, d. between 1757 & 1775 NJ. These Robins & Kitchen men certainly have Hunterdon Co., NJ roots, whether they were born in NJ or PA. 2. Marfy has Lydia Prall wife of Amos Thatcher. Cynthia has posted that she hasn't found Lydia Thatcher's maiden name to be Prall in her research. I've not come across anything either. This information has been passed around the genealogy circles but as far as I know never validated. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 7:58 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] The Kitchen Cemetery - GOODSPEED HISTORIES Found the article Marcy wrote about Kitchen Family Cemetery that has some Thatcher info. https://goodspeedhistories.com/the-kitchen-cemetery/ Sent from my iPad ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2150 Sender:Cynthia Victor Post Date/Time:2018-02-02 17:41:45 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon Co, NJ Message: Hello Marshall, I am still sorting though paperwork to find where I got that date. Questioning it myself. Itā€™s been a while since I worked on that line. Actually, now I have more questions than answers. I was reading the Thatcher porti on of the Godown Family. It does not list Asubia as a daughter of Bartholomew but does note that an article in the Penn Gazette says Bartholomew and Elizabeth Taylor had 17 Children/11 identified. I will try and find th at on newspapers.com this weekend. The link, which you probably already have is: Http://thegodowns.com I do think that the circumstantial evidence points to Asubia being the sister of Amos. However, it gets confusing to me because of the massive intermingling of the Thatchers, Robins, Lakes and Godowns, etc. Then Iā€™m rea ding the Thatchers on the Godown pages and see the Hull family. I also descend from Patience Hull m William Williamson. I suppose that is normal when our families go back that far. A truly never ending story! Warmest regards, Cynthia > On Feb 1, 2018, at 10:00 PM, 'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > Marshall, > > The theory for Asubia as the daughter of Bartholomew Thatcher has been tossed around for years. I wondered if someone had recently verified this information when I saw your post. Thanks for checking it out. > > Sara > > > > From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 7:31 PM > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon Co, NJ > > > > > > > Marfy's belief that the birth name of Asubia/Azubah (spouse of Isaac > ROBINS d. 1741) is THATCHER is based upon circumstantial evidence. > > Marfy says: "Isaac Robins will named his wife Asubia and friend Amos > Thatcher as executors. It is my understanding that Amos was Azubia's > brother. One of Amos' daughters was named Azobah. But records pertaining > to their father Bartholomew Thatcher are very sketchy. In fact, Bart seems > to have been a kind of sketchy guy. He moved around a lot, and I haven't > found an estate for him. So--it looks like I've got nothing but > circumstantial evidence. Sorry I don't have more for you." > > I'm glad you asked, Sara! > > > Posted by: "Marshall Lake" mlake@... mlake692000 > > Date: Thu Feb 1, 2018 1:55 pm ((PST)) > > > > Marfy Goodspeed states this in the article: > > https://goodspeedhistories.com/the-sergeantsville-inn/ > > > > It's not 100% clear in the article how Marfy attributes THATCHER to > > Azubah. I'll write to Marfy seeking clarification. > > > > Was Asubia?s maiden name Thatcher? I don?t have this information for > > > her. > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 9:40 PM > > > > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Isaac Robbins d. 1741 Hunterdon > > > > Co, NJ > > > > > > > > No direct proof, but based upon circumstantial evidence I believe > > > > Sarah Ann ROBINS is a daughter of Isaac ROBINS (1700-1741) and > > > > Asubia THATCHER. Sarah Ann b 1736, d 1823, mar John LAKE (son of > > > > Thomas LAKE & Jannetie/Jane STRYKER) in 1756. John LAKE & Sarah Ann > > > > ROBINS had children (in sequence): Isaac, Thomas, Sarah Elizabeth, > > > > Cornelius, Jane, Azubah, Ann, Margaret, Mary & John. > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2151 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-02-03 18:33:11 Subject:ROBBINS / DEBOW Message: The following is something I found in my computer "attic" recently. I don't know if this message was sent directly to me or if it was posted to this list originally. Either way, it's interesting. It doesn't seem like there is any new info here, but it may add some coorboration. ----------------------------BEGIN---------------------------- Posted by: "Chris Schopfer" Date: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:34 am (PDT) The following is my annotated transcription of a two-page type-written document recently shared with me by a cousin who inherited some estate items from my Robbins line, which ended with Abigail (Robbins) DeBow (descended from Joseph Jr-Joseph-Moses-Daniel). The document has some information I don't recall seeing elsewhere, and refers to various Robins personalities and real estate, as well as the burial ground and a Quaker "Robins Meeting", so I'm sharing it in its entirety. I believe the author was Mount Debas Gravatt (d. 1959), great-grandson of Thomas and Abigail DeBow via their daughter Jane (DeBow) Gravatt. I personally found the document useful since I have no proof that Abigail Robins' mother was Jane Hoopes, (b. Edgmont PA and married in Philadelphia) and thus that her father was Joseph Robins Jr. I was troubled not only by the lack of documentation, but also because it seemed odd that Joseph Jr. would leave NJ, marry in PA, and then return to NJ. In addition to declaring that Joseph Jr.'s wife was Jane Hoopes, this document notes that one of his Joseph Jr.'s brothers died in Chester County, PA and named Joseph Jr. co-executor, which suggests that the family did indeed have a substantial PA connection. Anyway, here goes; my notes are in square brackets: THE ROBINS OF COVELL/COVELL'S HILL My knowledge of our branch of the Robins family has been recently greatly extended by a copy of the record in the Bible of John Robbins [1751-1837, son of Joseph Robins Sr. and Leah Clayton], an uncle of great-grandfather [Thomas B.] DeBow. My object in writing these notes is to give some additional information regarding our forebears, and the locations of their homes. Daniel Robins was the first settler by that name in New Jersey. He located in Woodbridge Township which comprised a large part of the present Middlesex County. Volume XXI N.J. Archives which records the early patents as taken from those at Perth Amboy, shows that he owned at times several town lots and other real estate in Woodbridge. He held various public offices and was a citizen of prominence. At this point it is well to describe how the lands in the Colony were opened for settlement. As we all know, after the English took possession from the Dutch of New York, which then included New Jersey, the ownership of the land in the eastern half of New Jersey passed from the Duke of York to Philipp Carteret. This did not apply as I understand, to land already settled. Carteret conveyed his rights to twenty four parties, each having an equal share. These became know as the Board of Proprietors, they were for a time the governing body of the Colony. From time to time the shareholders were each given the privilege of making claims for a specified area of land. Some of the shareholders sold their rights entirely, or in fractional portions. Others made their claims promptly, and many of these were for large acreage. As a near-by example we find that William Dockwra (written Dockerty in old papers) obtained a patent for 3000 acres. The south line of this tract ran from the Eldridge Stillhouse farm to Jacob Preston's. Grandfather [probably Ezekiel] Mount's farm was part of this tract. Dockwra had a patent for another tract which lay north of Rocky Brook, the outlet of Perineville Pond. The Richard Mount 1000 acre property was part of this tract. We are interested in the rights of the Proprietors. Grandfather [sic-may have meant great-grandfather] DeBow owned a part of a share, as did his father. They acquired considerable property by their rights. The head office of the Proprietors was at Perth Amboy, where their meetings were held and records kept. Daniel Robins evidently knew of the big deals going on in real estate. In 1695 he bought 500 acres lying south of Chestnut Brook which had been patented five years earlier. The eastern corner of this tract was near the Eldridge Stillhouse. The Tract extended westerly, mostly on the north side of the Allentown road for about a mile and a half, and along both sides of the road from Stone Tavern to eight square school house and Sharon, from the first fork, for less than a mile, I judge. My copy was taken from one owned by James Schooley, a real estate agent in Allentown, who has a valuable collection of maps of early surveys. After Daniel in our line, is his son Moses. He bought a part of the original tract from his father and lived on or near the farm south of the burial ground, in our time belonging to Amos Tantum. Following Moses in our ancestry is Joseph who died in 1780. He evidently is the one referred to in a miscellaneous item Hornor's "Monmouth of Ours" which states that Joseph Robins, near Allentown was struck in the head with the forefeet of a colt, and killed when docking the animal. On Feb 27, 1776, one Joseph Robins deeded to his son Moses a tract that included wholly or in part the Sarah Ann Frake; the Hugh Riley; and Paul Morris (west of and adjoining the Riley property) farms. On April 22 1783 Moses sold the tract to Jacob Morris. It seemed to me that this Joseph was the one referred to above and he lived on the Hugh Riley farm. We now come in our line to Joseph Jr., son of Joseph. He married Jane Hoopes. Their daughter Abigail married great-grandfather DeBow. Joseph Jr., was one of a very large family. Richard died in Chester County, Pa., naming his brothers Joseph and Zebulon executors. I believe the latter lived in the Covell Hill section. The will was probated in 1816. One Zebulon Robins was one of the first trustees of the Robins Burial Place, but I am unable to show that he was the brother to Joseph Jr. I do not know where Joseph Jr. lived. His wife (a widow I suppose) occupied a small house on the south side of the Allentown road, near the Amos Tantum farm. According to an account told Gertie Hornor by grandmother Gravatt [probably Jane DeBow Gravatt], the latter went to visit her grandmother Robins [Jane (Hoopes) Robins], carrying a bowl which was to be returned. Grandmother accidentally dropped the bowl which broke, but having a two bit piece for pocket money she stopped at the Clarksburg store where she bought another bowl which Gertie now has. Grandmother's walk was five miles long. Joseph's sister Meribah married Samuel Emley, one of the founders of Emley's Hill M.E. church. I think that this Samuel Emley is the one who taught grandfather DeBow how to survey, and from whose records my father [Henry C. Gravatt] copied much of the material in his field book. Daniel and Thomas Smith are descendants of Samuel and Leah. I have considerable material in reference to another brother John, who owned at one time the Amos Tantum farm at Covell's Hill. He owned two large wood lots on the Back Bone Hill. One tract was divided into lots by grandfather DeBow. It was sold at auction by his executors at Willow Tree Tavern in 1839. Our wood lot was part of another tract. One John Robins lived near eight-square school house, but I am not sure whether he was the brother John. Elizabeth Sexton (Aunt Betsy Davis) lived, previously to her marriage, with John Robins. Grandmother Gravatt claimed relationship with Aunt Betsy, but I never learned in what way. The early Robins families were large. Several members settled in the vicinity of Allentown. Further information about the Robins family can be obtained from the History of Mercer County, Lewis Publishing Company, 1920. The West twins, who have done much to perpetuate the Robins part in local history, are descendants of Aaron, son of Daniel. I have not been able to show how the John B. Robins family related to the others. His signature shows that he used only one "b" in his name as did the others in earlier times. The Robins that came to this section were Quakers. An organization, a branch of the Crosswicks Friends, was formed in the mid-seventeen hundreds, and was know as the Robins Meeting. Isaac Hicks, the noted traveling Quaker, in his autobiography tells of visiting here. Shortly after 1800 the name East Branch was adopted, and in 1816, the present brick meeting house was built. 12/26/1940-M.D.G. Chris Schopfer -------------------------END--------------------- -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2152 Sender:Cynthia Victor Post Date/Time:2018-02-03 22:03:20 Subject:Bartholomew Thatcher Message: While doing some research this evening I came upon this on Ancestry. Thought it a particularly interesting reference to siblings marrying siblings. Could it be a reference to Amos and Asubia being siblings and possibly Isaac Robins and Lydia (was she a Robins). Have emailed Mr LaRowe this evening to see if there is existing documentation or if this was an oral history passed down. Hopefully he will respond. Does anyone have any thoug hts on this? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2153 Sender:Cynthia Victor Post Date/Time:2018-02-03 22:17:33 Subject:1771 Pennsylvannia Gazette article Message: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2154 Sender:"todd.d.robbins@..." Post Date/Time:2018-02-04 16:34:28 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Moderator, Question Message: Hi Marshall, The previous group was called Robbins South Jersey and I have the email archives for those downloaded as .dbx files you can import into most desktop email clients. I believe someone else did or was working on converting the email archives into PDFs. This is something I would be happy to do as well. ā€“Tod On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > > The Message History calendar at the bottom of the home page for the > Robbins Family Society goes back to Oct 2010. It seems to me this group > existed before then. > > How do members access messages before Oct 2010 (if there were any)? > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net > > -- Tod Robbins, MLIS todrobbins.com | @todrobbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2155 Sender:tracey.marcelo@... Post Date/Time:2018-02-07 11:56:29 Subject:Ralph Robbins. b. 1780; lived in Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. Message: Hi, Can anyone tell me about the ancestry (parents, grandparents, etc.) of Ralph Robbins who lived in Alexandria, Hunterdon Co.? He is in the Alexandria 1850 census: Name: Ralph Robbins Age: 70 Birth Year: abt 1780 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1850: Alexandria, Hunterdon, New Jersey, USA Gender: Male Family Number: 113 Household Members: Name Age Ralph Robbins 70 Susan Robbins 67 Next door is: Name: Jacob Robbins Age: 34 Birth Year: abt 1816 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1850: Alexandria, Hunterdon, New Jersey, USA Gender: Male Family Number: 114 Household Members: Name Age Jacob Robbins 34 Jane Robbins 31 Wiliam D Vanderbilt 17 Mary Vanderbilt 60 Sally Ann Robbins 28 Thanks, Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2156 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-02-07 20:44:28 Subject:Re: Ralph Robbins. b. 1780; lived in Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. Message: The only things I have which may or may not be for this same Ralph ROBBINS are: from "More Records of Old Hunterdon County, Volume II" by Phyllis B D'Autrechy in 2000 Bastardy Cases 1761-1890 quote On 16 Jul 1802 John Kitchen of Alexandria Twp was surety for Ralph Robins of the same place, who was accused of being the father of the unborn child of Phebe Riley, single woman. (Recog. 1619) unquote and Hunterdon Gazette Flemington, NJ 15 Sep 1830 We learn that two children, sons of Herbert Bellis and Ralph Robbins, were killed by lightning at the Holland school house, near Milford, in this county, on the 8th inst. - They were under a pear tree when the lightning struck them. > marcelofamilytx > Today at 10:56 AM > Can anyone tell me about the ancestry (parents, grandparents, etc.) of > Ralph Robbins who lived in Alexandria, Hunterdon Co.? > > He is in the Alexandria 1850 census: > [snip] -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2157 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-02-07 21:16:24 Subject:Re: Moderator, Question Message: Thanks, Tod. I found the old messages in the FILES area of this group. When I originally wrote my help message I thought that you had created files of the old messages, but there was nothing in the FILES area then. Additionally, this evening I received my first "daily digest" in many days (a week or so). So, maybe there was a problem with yahoo groups and it was fixed today? > Posted by: "todd.d.robbins@..." todd.d.robbins@... tdamcbigity > Date: Sun Feb 4, 2018 3:35 pm ((PST)) > > Hi Marshall, > > The previous group was called Robbins South Jersey and I have the email > archives for those downloaded as .dbx files you can import into most > desktop email clients. I believe someone else did or was working on > converting the email archives into PDFs. This is something I would be > happy to do as well. > > ā€“Tod -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2158 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-02-08 03:22:11 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Ralph Robbins. b. 1780; lived in Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. Message: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2159 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-02-08 06:31:06 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Ralph Robbins. b. 1780; lived in Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. [1 Attachment] Message: Ralph Robbins probably only lived in Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: From the 1830 census for Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: Robins, Ralph 02100001-001000201 From the 1840 census for Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: Robins, Ralph 000010001-0000101101 The 2 census records tell us that living with Raph was a female born 1760 ļæ½ 1769. This could be the mentioned Rachel Robins and could be Ralphļæ½s mother. What male Robins do we have that was born 1750 ļæ½ 1760 who had a wife named Rachel? There were some boundary changes with Columbia and Montour Counties around 1850. Richard Demott, mentioned, was actually lived in Madison Twp, Columbia County, PA. Iļæ½m guessing Richard Demott and William Ktichen had legal claims to the estate of Rachel Robins of Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ? Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@gmail.com [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 5:22 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Ralph Robbins. b. 1780; lived in Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. [1 Attachment] Thanks Marshall. I found this curious "Letters of Administration" record in Montour Co. PA. The deceased is Rachel Robins of Hunterdon Co. New Jersey. Administration was granted to Ralph Robins--and I think it is the Ralph in the 1850 Bethlehem twp. census Sureties given by: Richard Demott and William Kitchen. I haven't found any other records for Rachel yet. So I have no idea how any of this relates to the other Robins in Montour Co. and I don't know how Rachel and Ralph were related. However the Ralph in Hunterdon was 70 in 1850. I haven't found a Ralph in Montour yet. So I'm not sure why this record was made in Montour Co. Richard Demott lived in Montour Co PA William Kitchen lived in Columbia Co. PA Anyway...strange record! Tracey On 2/7/2018 9:44 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: The only things I have which may or may not be for this same Ralph ROBBINS are: from "More Records of Old Hunterdon County, Volume II" by Phyllis B D'Autrechy in 2000 Bastardy Cases 1761-1890 quote On 16 Jul 1802 John Kitchen of Alexandria Twp was surety for Ralph Robins of the same place, who was accused of being the father of the unborn child of Phebe Riley, single woman. (Recog. 1619) unquote and Hunterdon Gazette Flemington, NJ 15 Sep 1830 We learn that two children, sons of Herbert Bellis and Ralph Robbins, were killed by lightning at the Holland school house, near Milford, in this county, on the 8th inst. - They were under a pear tree when the lightning struck them. > marcelofamilytx > Today at 10:56 AM > Can anyone tell me about the ancestry (parents, grandparents, etc.) of > Ralph Robbins who lived in Alexandria, Hunterdon Co.? > > He is in the Alexandria 1850 census: > [snip] -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2160 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-02-08 07:55:52 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Ralph Robbins. b. 1780; lived in Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. Message: Ralph Robbins born 18 Jul 1779 Hunterdon Co., NJ, died 5 Mar 1859 Hunterdon Co., NJ buried at Mount Pleasant Cemetery also called Alexandria Presbyterian Churchyard on Route 519, Milford, NJ opposite First Presbyterian Church of Mount Pleasant. Ralph Robins married Susan Vanderbelt born 1782, died 13 Sept. 1860 Hunterdon Co., NJ daughter of Jacob Vanderbelt. Susan Vanderbelt Robins is also buried at Mount Pleasant Cemetery. Daniel Robins 1786-1855 & his wife Jane Robins 1792-1844 are buried there too. The parents of Ralph Robins & Daniel Robins are unknown. From More Records of Old Hunterdon County, Vol. II by Phyllis B D'Autrechy , in 2000, Bastardy Cases 1761-1890: On 16 Jul 1802, John Kitchen of Alexandria Twp was surety for Ralph Robins of the same place, who was accused of being the father of the unborn child of Phebe Riley, single woman. Between 1816 & 1818 Ralph Robins had Alexandria deeds where he sold or bought land. Book 27 page 48; Book 28, pages 157, 309, 504, 505, 506, 587 ,605; Book 29 pages 241, 244. Ralph & Susan Vanderbelt Robins lived near Amsterdam where Jonathan Robins lived. Children of Ralph & Susan Vanderbelt Robins. Jacob Robins abt. 1814. Jane Robins abt. 1819. Westley Robins 1821-1830. From the Hunterdon Gazette, Flemington, NJ 15 Sept 1830, Wesley Robins age 9, son of Ralph Robins killed by lightning near Milford. Sally Ann Robins abt. 1822. Source: Robins, Robbins of New Jersey. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 6:31 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Ralph Robbins. b. 1780; lived in Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. Ralph Robbins probably only lived in Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: From the 1830 census for Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: Robins, Ralph 02100001-001000201 From the 1840 census for Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: Robins, Ralph 000010001-0000101101 The 2 census records tell us that living with Raph was a female born 1760 - 1769. This could be the mentioned Rachel Robins and could be Ralph's mother. What male Robins do we have that was born 1750 - 1760 who had a wife named Rachel? There were some boundary changes with Columbia and Montour Counties around 1850. Richard Demott, mentioned, was actually lived in Madison Twp, Columbia County, PA. I'm guessing Richard Demott and William Ktichen had legal claims to the estate of Rachel Robins of Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ? Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 5:22 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Ralph Robbins. b. 1780; lived in Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. [1 Attachment] Thanks Marshall. I found this curious "Letters of Administration" record in Montour Co. PA. The deceased is Rachel Robins of Hunterdon Co. New Jersey. Administration was granted to Ralph Robins--and I think it is the Ralph in the 1850 Bethlehem twp. census Sureties given by: Richard Demott and William Kitchen. I haven't found any other records for Rachel yet. So I have no idea how any of this relates to the other Robins in Montour Co. and I don't know how Rachel and Ralph were related. However the Ralph in Hunterdon was 70 in 1850. I haven't found a Ralph in Montour yet. So I'm not sure why this record was made in Montour Co. Richard Demott lived in Montour Co PA William Kitchen lived in Columbia Co. PA Anyway...strange record! Tracey On 2/7/2018 9:44 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: The only things I have which may or may not be for this same Ralph ROBBINS are: from "More Records of Old Hunterdon County, Volume II" by Phyllis B D'Autrechy in 2000 Bastardy Cases 1761-1890 quote On 16 Jul 1802 John Kitchen of Alexandria Twp was surety for Ralph Robins of the same place, who was accused of being the father of the unborn child of Phebe Riley, single woman. (Recog. 1619) unquote and Hunterdon Gazette Flemington, NJ 15 Sep 1830 We learn that two children, sons of Herbert Bellis and Ralph Robbins, were killed by lightning at the Holland school house, near Milford, in this county, on the 8th inst. - They were under a pear tree when the lightning struck them. > marcelofamilytx > Today at 10:56 AM > Can anyone tell me about the ancestry (parents, grandparents, etc.) of > Ralph Robbins who lived in Alexandria, Hunterdon Co.? > > He is in the Alexandria 1850 census: > [snip] -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2161 Sender:gheagy@... Post Date/Time:2018-02-08 12:48:12 Subject:Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Message: I'm confused with my information on the numerous Jonathan Robbins. From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, NJ: Moses' great-grandfather, Jonathan Robins, settled in Alexandria township, adjoining the "Old Hickory Tavern," in 1751, and bought land of" one Widow Merrill." The original estate contained two hundred and eighty-live acres of land. He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four daughters, the former being the grandfather of Moses Robins. He lived and reared a large family on the old estate. One of his sons, Jonathan, the third of that name, was the father of our subject. This Jonathan married Widow Charity Lawshe, and had by her nine children. George, James, and Ephraim, of the sons, are deceased, and one of the daughters, Mary, is deceased; those living are Moses, Jonas, Sylvester, Sarah, and Elizabeth. Jo nas married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandria; Sylvester married Isabella Bird, and lives in Branchburg township, Somerset Co.; Sarah married James Sidders, and lives near Urbana, Ohio; Eliza beth married, fir.st, Reuben R. Wright, deceased, and second, Jonas Tharp ; they live in Union township adjoining tiie original homestead. Jonathan Robins, the father, bought out the heirs and owned most of the old homestead tract; and after his marriage to Widow Lawshe purchased the other homestead in Union township, where he died Dec. 12, 1872, and was buried on the original place. His wife died March 25, 1859, aged sixty-two years, ten months, and twenty-four days. Moses Robins was born in Bethlehem (now Union) township, Hunterdon Co., N. J., Sept. 3, 1826. Is this history correct? From the above I get: 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 - 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins, Jr. (abt 1729 - 1796) 3) Jonathan Robins, IV (1793 - 1872) 4) Moses Robins (1826) It seems like there's a generation missing between #2 and #3. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2162 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-02-08 14:26:34 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Message: Garry, The subject of the Jonathan Robinsā€™ was discussed on 1/20/18. Marshall has the best answer on the Jonathans. It may help answer your questions if you are able to access posts # 2090, 2088 & 2064. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 12:48 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. I'm confused with my information on the numerous Jonathan Robbins. From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, NJ: Moses' great-grandfather, Jonathan Robins, settled in Alexandria township, adjoining the "Old Hickory Tavern," in 1751, and bought land of" one Widow Merrill." The original estate contained two hundred and eighty-live acres of land. He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four daughters, the former being t he grandfather of Moses Robins. He lived and reared a large family on the old estate. One of his sons, Jonathan, the third of that name, was the father of our subject. This Jonathan married Widow Charity Lawshe, and had by her nine children. George, James, and Ephraim, of the sons, are deceased, and one of the daughters, Mary, is deceased; those living are Moses, Jonas, Sylvester, Sarah, and Elizabeth. Jon as married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandria; Sylvester married Isabella Bird, and lives in Branchburg township, Somerset Co.; Sarah married James Sidders, and lives near Urbana, Ohio; Elizab eth married, fir.st, Reuben R. Wright, deceased, and second, Jonas Tharp ; they live in Union township adjoining tiie original homestead. Jonathan Robins, the father, bought out the heirs and owned most of the old homestead tract; and after his marriage to Widow Lawshe purchased the other homestead in Union township, where he died Dec. 12, 1872, and was buried on the original place. His wife died March 25, 1859, aged sixty-two years, ten m onths, and twenty-four days. Moses Robins was born in Bethlehem (now Union) township, Hunterdon Co., N. J., Sept. 3, 1826. Is this history correct? From the a bove I get: 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 - 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins, Jr. (abt 1729 - 1796) 3) Jonathan Robins, IV (1793 - 1872) 4) Moses Robins (1826) It seems like there's a generation missing between #2 and #3. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2163 Sender:tracey.marcelo@... Post Date/Time:2018-02-08 16:50:38 Subject:William Robbins b. 1767 son of William Robbins and Mary Hunt Message: Hi, I have a notation in my files that says: William Robbins b. 12 Aug 1767 d. 1788 son of William Robbins of Bethlehem twp. Hunterdon Co. NJ who died in 1811 and wife Mary Hunt. Is this death date correct? Is there a source for this date? I'm not sure where I got it! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2164 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-02-08 17:32:34 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William Robbins b. 1767 son of William Robbins and Mary Hunt Message: Tracey, I have the same birth date and 16 Oct, 1788 death date. Like you, I didnā€™t record a source. William Jr. is not mentioned in the Will of William Sr. Garry From: tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 6:50 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] William Robbins b. 1767 son of William Robbins and Mary Hunt Hi, I have a notation in my files that says: William Robbins b. 12 Aug 1767 d. 1788 son of William Robbins of Bethlehem twp. Hunterdon Co. NJ who died in 1811 and wife Mary Hunt. Is this death date correct? Is there a source for this date? I'm not sure where I got it! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2165 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-02-08 18:51:26 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] William Robbins b. 1767 son of William Robbins and Mary Hunt Message: Not certain William Robins d., 1811 had a son William Robins, Jr. The names of his children comes from a Deed dated 4 May 1815 since he left no Will. Iā€™m unable to find the name of William Robins, Jr. Children named are: Thomas, Jonathan, Charity Woolever, Rebeccah Christian, Diana Kline, Daniel, John, James, Elizabeth Eveland & Mary Wilson. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 5:33 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William Robbins b. 1767 son of William Robbins and Mary Hunt Tracey, I have the same birth date and 16 Oct, 1788 death date. Like you, I didnā€™t record a source. William Jr. is not mentioned in the Will of William Sr. Garry From: tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 6:50 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] William Robbins b. 1767 son of William Robbins and Mary Hunt Hi, I have a notation in my files that says: William Robbins b. 12 Aug 1767 d. 1788 son of William Robbins of Bethlehem twp. Hunterdon Co. NJ who died in 1811 and wife Mary Hunt. Is this death date correct? Is there a source for this date? I'm not sure where I got it! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2166 Sender:tracey.marcelo@... Post Date/Time:2018-02-08 19:37:25 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] William Robbins b. 1767 son of William Robbins and Mary Hunt Message: Interesting! Thanks Sara! I know for lines that aren't mine direct line, I tend to go with what other people put on the Web. I guess Garry and I both picked it up somewhere! Funny that there is an EXACT birth date associated with this 1767 William, whoever he is, if he even existed! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2167 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-02-08 22:01:02 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] William Robbins b. 1767 son of William Robbins and Mary Hunt Message: Yes, funny since there are exact dates for William Robins. I tend to think he did exist. I canā€™t find him in any of my records. Notice he died at age 21 from dates. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 7:37 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] William Robbins b. 1767 son of William Robbins and Mary Hunt Interesting! Thanks Sara! I know for lines that aren't mine direct line, I tend to go with what other people put on the Web. I guess Garry and I both picked it up somewhere! Funny that there is an EXACT birth date associated with this 1767 William, whoever he is, if he even existed! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2168 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-02-09 04:48:30 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Message: It seems there is doubt with the History of Hunterdon County, NJ, article. 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 ā€“ 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) 3) a) Jonathan Robins III (abt 1755 ā€“ 1796) b) Jonathan Robins (abt 1760 ā€“ 1815) 4) Jonathan Robins IV (1793 ā€“ 1872) 4) Moses Robins (1826) I think #1 and #2 are accepted as correct. But we think #3a is correct, yet the History of Hunterdon County says we have #3b > #4 > #5, descending from #1. Isaac Robins, the brother of Jonathan Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) had a son, Jonathan, who was alive when Isaac died in 1783, who was probably born about 1760. Whatā€™s the information on him? Garry From: 'Sara Hoffman' july37@cox.net [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:26 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Garry, The subject of the Jonathan Robinsā€™ was discussed on 1/20/18. Marshall has the best answer on the Jonathans. It may help answer your questions if you are able to access posts # 2090, 2088 & 2064. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@...m [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 12:48 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. I'm confused with my information on the numerous Jonathan Robbins. From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, NJ: Moses' great-grandfather, Jonathan Robins, settled in Alexandria township, adjoining the "Old Hickory Tavern," in 1751, and bought land of" one Widow Merrill.." The original estate contained two hundred and eighty-live acres of land. He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four daughters, the former being the grandfather of Moses Robins. He lived and reared a large family on the old estate. One of his sons, Jonathan, the third of that name, was the father of our subject. This Jonathan married Widow Charity Lawshe, and had by her nine children. George, James, and Ephraim, of the sons, are deceased, and one of the daughters, Mary, is deceased; those living are Moses, Jonas, Sylvester, Sarah, and Elizabeth. Jon as married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandria; Sylvester married Isabella Bird, and lives in Branchburg township, Somerset Co.; Sarah married James Sidders, and lives near Urbana, Ohio; Elizab eth married, fir.st, Reuben R. Wright, deceased, and second, Jonas Tharp ; they live in Union township adjoining tiie original homestead. Jonathan Robins, the father, bought out the heirs and owned most of the old homestead tract; and after his marriage to Widow Lawshe purchased the other homestead in Union township, where he died Dec. 12, 1872, and was buried on the original place. His wife died March 25, 1859, aged sixty-two years, ten m onths, and twenty-four days. Moses Robins was born in Bethlehem (now Union) township, Hunterdon Co., N. J., Sept. 3, 1826. Is this history correct? From the a bove I get: 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 - 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins, Jr. (abt 1729 - 1796) 3) Jonathan Robins, IV (1793 - 1872) 4) Moses Robins (1826) It seems like there's a generation missing between #2 and #3. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2169 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-02-09 06:29:12 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Message: #1 Jonathan purchased the property in Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, in 1751 from Widow Merrill. This property was deeded to son Isaac in 1773. #4 Jonathan eventually acquired this property, which was passed on to son Jonas, ā€œJonas married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandriaā€ Iā€™m suggesting that son Isaac is the missing link in the family of #5 Moses. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@netflash.net [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 6:48 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. It seems there is doubt with the History of Hunterdon County, NJ, article. 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 ā€“ 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) 3) a) Jonathan Robins III (abt 1755 ā€“ 1796) b) Jonathan Robins (abt 1760 ā€“ 1815) 4) Jonathan Robins IV (1793 ā€“ 1872) 5) Moses Robins (1826) I think #1 and #2 are accepted as correct. But we think #3a is correct, yet the History of Hunterdon County says we have #3b > #4 > #5, descending from #1. Isaac Robins, the brother of Jonathan Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) had a son, Jonathan, who was alive when Isaac died in 1783, who was probably born about 1760. Whatā€™s the information on him? Garry From: 'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:26 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Garry, The subject of the Jonathan Robinsā€™ was discussed on 1/20/18. Marshall has the best answer on the Jonathans. It may help answer your questions if you are able to access posts # 2090, 2088 & 2064. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 12:48 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. I'm confused with my information on the numerous Jonathan Robbins. From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, NJ: Moses' great-grandfather, Jonathan Robins, settled in Alexandria township, adjoining the "Old Hickory Tavern," in 1751, and bought land of" one Widow Merrill.." The original estate contained two hundred and eighty-live acres of land. He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four daughters, the former being the grandfather of Moses Robins. He lived and reared a large family on the old estate. One of his sons, Jonathan, the third of that name, was the father of our subject. This Jonathan married Widow Charity Lawshe, and had by her nine children. George, James, and Ephraim, of the sons, are deceased, and one of the daughters, Mary, is deceased; those living are Moses, Jonas, Sylvester, Sarah, and Elizabeth. Jon as married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandria; Sylvester married Isabella Bird, and lives in Branchburg township, Somerset Co.; Sarah married James Sidders, and lives near Urbana, Ohio; Elizab eth married, fir.st, Reuben R. Wright, deceased, and second, Jonas Tharp ; they live in Union township adjoining tiie original homestead. Jonathan Robins, the father, bought out the heirs and owned most of the old homestead tract; and after his marriage to Widow Lawshe purchased the other homestead in Union township, where he died Dec. 12, 1872, and was buried on the original place. His wife died March 25, 1859, aged sixty-two years, ten m onths, and twenty-four days. Moses Robins was born in Bethlehem (now Union) township, Hunterdon Co., N. J., Sept. 3, 1826. Is this history correct? From the a bove I get: 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 - 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins, Jr. (abt 1729 - 1796) 3) Jonathan Robins, IV (1793 - 1872) 4) Moses Robins (1826) It seems like there's a generation missing between #2 and #3. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2170 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-02-10 05:24:29 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Message: Isaac Robbins (abt 1735 ā€“ 1783) died intestate in Alexandria Twp. 243.6 acres were later divided between his children. Probably this was the original Merrill purchase of 234 acres. Son Jonathan #3b, besides having hi s share also purchased property from at least 2 of his siblings. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:29 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. #1 Jonathan purchased the property in Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, in 1751 from Widow Merrill. This property was deeded to son Isaac in 1773. #4 Jonathan eventually acquired this property, which was passed on to son Jonas, ā€œJonas married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandriaā€ Iā€™m suggesting that son Isaac is the missing link in the family of #5 Moses. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@netflash.net [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 6:48 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. It seems there is doubt with the History of Hunterdon County, NJ, article. 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 ā€“ 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) 3) a) Jonathan Robins III (abt 1755 ā€“ 1796) b) Jonathan Robins (abt 1760 ā€“ 1815) 4) Jonathan Robins IV (1793 ā€“ 1872) 5) Moses Robins (1826) I think #1 and #2 are accepted as correct. But we think #3a is correct, yet the History of Hunterdon County says we have #3b > #4 > #5, descending from #1. Isaac Robins, the brother of Jonathan Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) had a son, Jonathan, who was alive when Isaac died in 1783, who was probably born about 1760. Whatā€™s the information on him? Garry From: 'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:26 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Garry, The subject of the Jonathan Robinsā€™ was discussed on 1/20/18. Marshall has the best answer on the Jonathans. It may help answer your questions if you are able to access posts # 2090, 2088 & 2064. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 12:48 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. I'm confused with my information on the numerous Jonathan Robbins. From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, NJ: Moses' great-grandfather, Jonathan Robins, settled in Alexandria township, adjoining the "Old Hickory Tavern," in 1751, and bought land of" one Widow Merrill.." The original estate contained two hundred and eighty-live acres of land. He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four daughters, the former being the grandfather of Moses Robins. He lived and reared a large family on the old estate. One of his sons, Jonathan, the third of that name, was the father of our subject. This Jonathan married Widow Charity Lawshe, and had by her nine children. George, James, and Ephraim, of the sons, are deceased, and one of the daughters, Mary, is deceased; those living are Moses, Jonas, Sylvester, Sarah, and Elizabeth. Jon as married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandria; Sylvester married Isabella Bird, and lives in Branchburg township, Somerset Co.; Sarah married James Sidders, and lives near Urbana, Ohio; Elizab eth married, fir.st, Reuben R. Wright, deceased, and second, Jonas Tharp ; they live in Union township adjoining tiie original homestead. Jonathan Robins, the father, bought out the heirs and owned most of the old homestead tract; and after his marriage to Widow Lawshe purchased the other homestead in Union township, where he died Dec. 12, 1872, and was buried on the original place. His wife died March 25, 1859, aged sixty-two years, ten m onths, and twenty-four days. Moses Robins was born in Bethlehem (now Union) township, Hunterdon Co., N. J., Sept. 3, 1826. Is this history correct? From the a bove I get: 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 - 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins, Jr. (abt 1729 - 1796) 3) Jonathan Robins, IV (1793 - 1872) 4) Moses Robins (1826) It seems like there's a generation missing between #2 and #3. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2171 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-02-10 10:41:32 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Message: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2172 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-02-10 11:26:54 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Message: Tracey, From New Jersey Will Abstracts: 1784, Feb. 18 Robins, Isaac of Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. Int. Adm'x - Susannah Robins Fellowbondsman - Amos Smith; both of said place Witness - Thomas Reeder 1783, Oct. 7 Inventory, Ā£491.6.3 made by Thomas Reeder and George Kramer. Plantation of 220 acres, Ā£320 Yes, Isaac is the son of Jonathan who died in 1774. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 12:41 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. This is really great Garry! Good work! I've attached an orphan's court record for the Isaac who died between 1783 and 1793... Also, where it says "He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four daughters"... This is in reference to the Jonathan who died in 1774, right? I have that William Robbins who was his executor was also his son. Hmm. I wonder why he wasn't mentioned in that write up. Or--was William someone else's son?? Tracey On 2/10/2018 6:24 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@netflash.net [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Isaac Robbins (abt 1735 ā€“ 1783) died intestate in Alexandria Twp. 243.6 acres were later divided between his children. Probably this was the original Merrill purchase of 234 acres. Son Jonathan #3b, besides having his share also purchased property from at least 2 of his siblings. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:29 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. #1 Jonathan purchased the property in Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, in 1751 from Widow Merrill. This property was deeded to son Isaac in 1773. #4 Jonathan eventually acquired this property, which was passed on to son Jonas, ā€œJonas married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandriaā€ Iā€™m suggesting that son Isaac is the missing link in the family of #5 Moses. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@netflash.net [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 6:48 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. It seems there is doubt with the History of Hunterdon County, NJ, article. 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 ā€“ 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) 3) a) Jonathan Robins III (abt 1755 ā€“ 1796) b) Jonathan Robins (abt 1760 ā€“ 1815) 4) Jonathan Robins IV (1793 ā€“ 1872) 5) Moses Robins (1826) I think #1 and #2 are accepted as correct. But we think #3a is correct, yet the History of Hunterdon County says we have #3b > #4 > #5, descending from #1. Isaac Robins, the brother of Jonathan Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) had a son, Jonathan, who was alive when Isaac died in 1783, who was probably born about 1760. Whatā€™s the information on him? Garry From: 'Sara Hoffman' july37@cox.net [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:26 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Garry, The subject of the Jonathan Robinsā€™ was discussed on 1/20/18. Marshall has the best answer on the Jonathans. It may help answer your questions if you are able to access posts # 2090, 2088 & 2064. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 12:48 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. I'm confused with my information on the numerous Jonathan Robbins. From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, NJ: Moses' great-grandfather, Jonathan Robins, settled in Alexandria township, adjoining the "Old Hickory Tavern," in 1751, and bought land of" one Widow Merrill.." The original estate contained two hundred and eighty-live acres of land. He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four daughters, the former bein g the grandfather of Moses Robins. He lived and reared a large family on the old estate. One of his sons, Jonathan, the third of that name, was the father of our subject. This Jonathan married Widow Charity Lawshe, and had by her nine children. George, James, and Ephraim, of the sons, are deceased, and one of the daughters, Mary, is deceased; those living are Moses, Jonas, Sylvester, Sarah, and Elizabeth. J onas married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandria; Sylvester married Isabella Bird, and lives in Branchburg township, Somerset Co.; Sarah married James Sidders, and lives near Urbana, Ohio; Eliz abeth married, fir.st, Reuben R. Wright, deceased, and second, Jonas Tharp ; they live in Union township adjoining tiie original homestead. Jonathan Robins, the father, bought out the heirs and owned most of the old homestead tract; and after his marriage to Widow Lawshe purchased the other homestead in Union township, where he died Dec. 12, 1872, and was buried on the original place. His wife died March 25, 1859, aged sixty-two years, ten months, and twenty-four days. Moses Robins was born in Bethlehem (now Union) township, Hunterdon Co., N. J., Sept. 3, 1826. Is this history correct? From the a bove I get: 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 - 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins, Jr. (abt 1729 - 1796) 3) Jonathan Robins, IV (1793 - 1872) 4) Moses Robins (1826) It seems like there's a generation missing between #2 and #3. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2173 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-02-10 12:11:20 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Message: Right. But now I'm curious about the Jonathan who died in 1774 only having 2 sons: Jonathan and Isaac. His executor was William Robins--and I thought he was another son. 1774, Nov. 5. Robins, Jonathan, of Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. Int. Adm'r ā€” William Robins. Fellowbondsman ā€” William Bate; both of Bethlehem, said Co. 1774, Oct. 15. Inventory, Ā£371.2.11, made by Thomas Reeder and William Bate. Lib. 15, p. 505. Thoughts on that? Tracey On 2/10/2018 12:26 PM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, From New Jersey Will Abstracts: 1784, Feb. 18 Robins, Isaac of Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. Int. Adm'x - Susannah Robins Fellowbondsman - Amos Smith; both of said place Witness - Thomas Reeder 1783, Oct. 7 Inventory, Ā£491.6.3 made by Thomas Reeder and George Kramer. Plantation of 220 acres, Ā£320 Yes, Isaac is the son of Jonathan who died in 1774. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 12:41 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. This is really great Garry! Good work! I've attached an orphan's court record for the Isaac who died between 1783 and 1793... Also, where it says "He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four daughters"... This is in reference to the Jonathan who died in 1774, right? I have that William Robbins who was his executor was also his son. Hmm. I wonder why he wasn't mentioned in that write up. Or--was William someone else's son?? Tracey On 2/10/2018 6:24 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Isaac Robbins (abt 1735 ā€“ 1783) died intestate in Alexandria Twp. 243.6 acres were later divided between his children. Probably this was the original Merrill purchase of 234 acres. Son Jonathan #3b, besides having his share also purchased property from at least 2 of his siblings. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:29 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. #1 Jonathan purchased the property in Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, in 1751 from Widow Merrill. This property was deeded to son Isaac in 1773. #4 Jonathan eventually acquired this property, which was passed on to son Jonas, ā€œJonas married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandriaā€ Iā€™m suggesting that son Isaac is the missing link in the family of #5 Moses. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 6:48 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. It seems there is doubt with the History of Hunterdon County, NJ, article. 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 ā€“ 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) 3) a) Jonathan Robins III (abt 1755 ā€“ 1796) b) Jonathan Robins (abt 1760 ā€“ 1815) 4) Jonathan Robins IV (1793 ā€“ 1872) 5) Moses Robins (1826) I think #1 and #2 are accepted as correct. But we think #3a is correct, yet the History of Hunterdon County says we have #3b > #4 > #5, descending from #1. Isaac Robins, the brother of Jonathan Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) had a son, Jonathan, who was alive when Isaac died in 1783, who was probably born about 1760. Whatā€™s the information on him? Garry From: 'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:26 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Garry, The subject of the Jonathan Robinsā€™ was discussed on 1/20/18. Marshall has the best answer on the Jonathans. It may help answer your questions if you are able to access posts # 2090, 2088 & 2064. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 12:48 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. I'm confused with my information on the numerous Jonathan Robbins. From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, NJ: Moses' great-grandfather, Jonathan Robins, settled in Alexandria township, adjoining the "Old Hickory Tavern," in 1751, and bought land of" one Widow Merrill.." The original estate contained two hundred and eighty-live acres of land. He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four daughters, the former being the grandfather of Moses Robins. He lived and reared a large family on the old estate. One of his sons, Jonathan, the third of that name, was the father of our subject. This Jonathan married Widow Charity Lawshe, and had by her nine children. George, James, and Ephraim, of the sons, are deceased, and one of the daughters, Mary, is deceased; those living are Moses, Jonas, Sylvester, Sarah, and Elizabeth. Jonas married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandria; Sylvester married Isabella Bird, and lives in Branchburg township, Somerset Co.; Sarah married James Sidders, and lives near Urbana, Ohio; Elizabeth married, fir.st, Reuben R. Wright, deceased, and second, Jonas Tharp ; they live in Union township adjoining tiie original homestead. Jonathan Robins, the father, bought out the heirs and owned most of the old homestead tract; and after his marriage to Widow Lawshe purchased the other homestead in Union township, where he died Dec. 12, 1872, and was buried on the original place. His wife died March 25, 1859, aged sixty-two years, ten months, and twenty-four days. Moses Robins was born in Bethlehem (now Union) township, Hunterdon Co., N.. J., Sept. 3, 1826. Is this history correct? From the a bove I get: 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 - 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins, Jr. (abt 1729 - 1796) 3) Jonathan Robins, IV (1793 - 1872) 4) Moses Robins (1826) It seems like there's a generation missing between #2 and #3. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2174 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-02-10 14:17:08 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ Message: The referenced bio has been discussed a lot in the past. There is a second bio which contains much of the same info. The assumption is that the second bio was mostly copied from the first bio. Bios which appeared in county annals oftentimes contained errors, but still, they are a good reference (IMO). I and others feel that these two ROBINS bios are in error. The ROBINS/ROBBINS of Alexandria Twp are definitely a confusing bunch. The way I see it (some direct evidence, some educated assumptions) follows. Garry, I think you touched on part of this same line in a follow-up posting. And, as you mentioned, it could be that Isaac ROBINS (c1735-1783) fits in differently than I show. Jonathan ROBINS (1694-1774), mar Dinah ------ .. Jonathan ROBINS ( -1796) .... Jonathan ROBINS ( -1796) ...... Jonathan ROBINS (c1760-1815), mar Mary HUFF ........ Susanna (1787- ) ........ Charles (1788-1878) ........ Sarah (1790- ) ........ Isaac (1792- ) ........ Jonathan (1793-1872) ........ Mary A (1796- ) ........ Elizabeth ( - ) ........ James (1799- ) ........ Jonas (1801-1875) ........ William (1802-1873) ........ Joseph (1805-c1830) ........ Abigail (1809-1873) .. Isaac ROBINS (c1735-1783), mar Susannah ------ .... Jonathan (c1762- ) .... Rachael ( - ) .... Abigail (c1767- ) .... Dinah (1772-1857) .... Mary (1775-1857) .... Isaac (1778- ) .. daughter, name unknown ( - ) .. daughter, name unknown ( - ) .. daughter, name unknown ( - ) .. daughter, name unknown ( - ) > Posted by: gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:49 am ((PST)) > > I'm confused with my information on the numerous Jonathan Robbins. > > From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, NJ: > > Moses' great-grandfather, Jonathan Robins, settled in Alexandria > township, adjoining the "Old Hickory Tavern," in 1751, and bought land > of" one Widow Merrill." The original estate contained two hundred and > eighty-live acres of land. He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four > daughters, the former being the grandfather of Moses Robins. He lived > and reared a large family on the old estate. One of his sons, Jonathan, > the third of that name, was the father of our subject. This Jonathan > married Widow Charity Lawshe, and had by her nine children. George, > James, and Ephraim, of the sons, are deceased, and one of the daughters, > Mary, is deceased; those living are Moses, Jonas, Sylvester, Sarah, and > Elizabeth. Jonas married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead > in Alexandria; Sylvester married Isabella Bird, and lives in Branchburg > township, Somerset Co.; Sarah married James Sidders, and lives near > Urbana, Ohio; Elizabeth married, fir.st, Reuben R. Wright, deceased, and > second, Jonas Tharp ; they live in Union township adjoining tiie > original homestead. Jonathan Robins, the father, bought out the heirs > and owned most of the old homestead tract; and after his marriage to > Widow Lawshe purchased the other homestead in Union township, where he > died Dec. 12, 1872, and was buried on the original place. His wife died > March 25, 1859, aged sixty-two years, ten months, and twenty-four days. > Moses Robins was born in Bethlehem (now Union) township, Hunterdon Co., > N. J., Sept. 3, 1826. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2175 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-02-10 14:55:30 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Message: Tracey, If I suggested Jonathan only had 2 sons then I shouldnā€™t have. I think William Robins (abt. 1727 ā€“ 1811) may also be a son of Jonathan. It was Jonathanā€™s son, Isaac, that only had 2 sons. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 2:11 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Right. But now I'm curious about the Jonathan who died in 1774 only having 2 sons: Jonathan and Isaac. His executor was William Robins--and I thought he was another son. 1774, Nov. 5. Robins, Jonathan, of Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. Int. Adm'r ā€” William Robins. Fellowbondsman ā€” William Bate; both of Bethlehem, said Co. 1774, Oct. 15. Inventory, Ā£371.2.11, made by Thomas Reeder and William Bate. Lib. 15, p. 505. Thoughts on that? Tracey On 2/10/2018 12:26 PM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, From New Jersey Will Abstracts: 1784, Feb. 18 Robins, Isaac of Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. Int. Adm'x - Susannah Robins Fellowbondsman - Amos Smith; both of said place Witness - Thomas Reeder 1783, Oct. 7 Inventory, Ā£491.6.3 made by Thomas Reeder and George Kramer. Plantation of 220 acres, Ā£320 Yes, Isaac is the son of Jonathan who died in 1774. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 12:41 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. This is really great Garry! Good work! I've attached an orphan's court record for the Isaac who died between 1783 and 1793... Also, where it says "He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four daughters"... This is in reference to the Jonathan who died in 1774, right? I have that William Robbins who was his executor was also his son. Hmm. I wonder why he wasn't mentioned in that write up. Or--was William someone else's son?? Tracey On 2/10/2018 6:24 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Isaac Robbins (abt 1735 ā€“ 1783) died intestate in Alexandria Twp. 243.6 acres were later divided between his children. Probably this was the original Merrill purchase of 234 acres. Son Jonathan #3b, besides havin g his share also purchased property from at least 2 of his siblings. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:29 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. #1 Jonathan purchased the property in Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, in 1751 from Widow Merrill. This property was deeded to son Isaac in 1773. #4 Jonathan eventually acquired this property, which was passed on to son Jonas, ā€œJonas married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandriaā€ Iā€™m suggesting that son Isaac is the missing link in the family of #5 Moses. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 6:48 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. It seems there is doubt with the History of Hunterdon County, NJ, article. 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 ā€“ 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) 3) a) Jonathan Robins III (abt 1755 ā€“ 1796) b) Jonathan Robins (abt 1760 ā€“ 1815) 4) Jonathan Robins IV (1793 ā€“ 1872) 5) Moses Robins (1826) I think #1 and #2 are accepted as correct. But we think #3a is correct, yet the History of Hunterdon County says we have #3b > #4 > #5, descending from #1. Isaac Robins, the brother of Jonathan Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) had a son, Jonathan, who was alive when Isaac died in 1783, who was probably born about 1760. Whatā€™s the information on him? Garry From: 'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:26 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Garry, The subject of the Jonathan Robinsā€™ was discussed on 1/20/18. Marshall has the best answer on the Jonathans. It may help answer your questions if you are able to access posts # 2090, 2088 & 2064. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 12:48 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. I'm confused with my information on the numerous Jonathan Robbins. From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, NJ: Moses' great-grandfather, Jonathan Robins, settled in Alexandria township, adjoining the "Old Hickory Tavern," in 1751, and bought land of" one Widow Merrill.." The original estate contained two hundred and eighty-live acres of land. He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four daughters, the former be ing the grandfather of Moses Robins. He lived and reared a large family on the old estate. One of his sons, Jonathan, the third of that name, was the father of our subject. This Jonathan married Widow Charity Lawshe, and had by her nine children. George, James, and Ephraim, of the sons, are deceased, and one of the daughters, Mary, is deceased; those living are Moses, Jonas, Sylvester, Sarah, and Elizabeth. Jonas married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandria; Sylvester married Isabella Bird, and lives in Branchburg township, Somerset Co.; Sarah married James Sidders, and lives near Urbana, Ohio; El izabeth married, fir.st, Reuben R. Wright, deceased, and second, Jonas Tharp ; they live in Union township adjoining tiie original homestead. Jonathan Robins, the father, bought out the heirs and owned most of the old homestead tract; and after his marriage to Widow Lawshe purchased the other homestead in Union township, where he died Dec. 12, 1872, and was buried on the original place. His wife died March 25, 1859, aged sixty-two years, t en months, and twenty-four days. Moses Robins was born in Bethlehem (now Union) township, Hunterdon Co., N.. J., Sept. 3, 1826. Is this history correct? From the a bove I get: 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 - 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins, Jr. (abt 1729 - 1796) 3) Jonathan Robins, IV (1793 - 1872) 4) Moses Robins (1826) It seems like there's a generation missing between #2 and #3. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2176 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-02-10 15:38:28 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Message: OK! Maybe I misread the bio. I thought it was saying the 1774 guy had just 2 sons! And Marshall--thanks for your information too. The picture is becoming clearer for me! Tracey On 2/10/2018 3:55 PM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, If I suggested Jonathan only had 2 sons then I shouldnā€™t have. I think William Robins (abt. 1727 ā€“ 1811) may also be a son of Jonathan. It was Jonathanā€™s son, Isaac, that only had 2 sons. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 2:11 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Right. But now I'm curious about the Jonathan who died in 1774 only having 2 sons: Jonathan and Isaac. His executor was William Robins--and I thought he was another son. 1774, Nov. 5. Robins, Jonathan, of Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. Int. Adm'r ā€” William Robins. Fellowbondsman ā€” William Bate; both of Bethlehem, said Co. 1774, Oct. 15. Inventory, Ā£371.2.11, made by Thomas Reeder and William Bate. Lib. 15, p. 505. Thoughts on that? Tracey On 2/10/2018 12:26 PM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, From New Jersey Will Abstracts: 1784, Feb. 18 Robins, Isaac of Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. Int. Adm'x - Susannah Robins Fellowbondsman - Amos Smith; both of said place Witness - Thomas Reeder 1783, Oct. 7 Inventory, Ā£491.6.3 made by Thomas Reeder and George Kramer. Plantation of 220 acres, Ā£320 Yes, Isaac is the son of Jonathan who died in 1774. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 12:41 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. This is really great Garry! Good work! I've attached an orphan's court record for the Isaac who died between 1783 and 1793... Also, where it says "He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four daughters"... This is in reference to the Jonathan who died in 1774, right? I have that William Robbins who was his executor was also his son. Hmm. I wonder why he wasn't mentioned in that write up. Or--was William someone else's son?? Tracey On 2/10/2018 6:24 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Isaac Robbins (abt 1735 ā€“ 1783) died intestate in Alexandria Twp. 243.6 acres were later divided between his children. Probably this was the original Merrill purchase of 234 acres. Son Jonathan #3b, besides having his share also purchased property from at least 2 of his siblings. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:29 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. #1 Jonathan purchased the property in Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, in 1751 from Widow Merrill. This property was deeded to son Isaac in 1773. #4 Jonathan eventually acquired this property, which was passed on to son Jonas, ā€œJonas married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandriaā€ Iā€™m suggesting that son Isaac is the missing link in the family of #5 Moses. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 6:48 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. It seems there is doubt with the History of Hunterdon County, NJ, article. 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 ā€“ 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) 3) a) Jonathan Robins III (abt 1755 ā€“ 1796) b) Jonathan Robins (abt 1760 ā€“ 1815) 4) Jonathan Robins IV (1793 ā€“ 1872) 5) Moses Robins (1826) I think #1 and #2 are accepted as correct. But we think #3a is correct, yet the History of Hunterdon County says we have #3b > #4 > #5, descending from #1. Isaac Robins, the brother of Jonathan Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) had a son, Jonathan, who was alive when Isaac died in 1783, who was probably born about 1760. Whatā€™s the information on him? Garry From: 'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:26 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Garry, The subject of the Jonathan Robinsā€™ was discussed on 1/20/18. Marshall has the best answer on the Jonathans. It may help answer your questions if you are able to access posts # 2090, 2088 & 2064. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 12:48 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. I'm confused with my information on the numerous Jonathan Robbins. From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, NJ: Moses' great-grandfather, Jonathan Robins, settled in Alexandria township, adjoining the "Old Hickory Tavern," in 1751, and bought land of" one Widow Merrill..." The original estate contained two hundred and eighty-live acres of land.. He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four daughters, the former being the grandfather of Moses Robins. He lived and reared a large family on the old estate. One of his sons, Jonathan, the third of that name, was the father of our subject. This Jonathan married Widow Charity Lawshe, and had by her nine children. George, James, and Ephraim, of the sons, are deceased, and one of the daughters, Mary, is deceased; those living are Moses, Jonas, Sylvester, Sarah, and Elizabeth. Jonas married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandria; Sylvester married Isabella Bird, and lives in Branchburg township, Somerset Co.; Sarah married James Sidders, and lives near Urbana, Ohio; Elizabeth married, fir.st, Reuben R. Wright, deceased, and second, Jonas Tharp ; they live in Union township adjoining tiie original homestead. Jonathan Robins, the father, bought out the heirs and owned most of the old homestead tract; and after his marriage to Widow Lawshe purchased the other homestead in Union township, where he died Dec. 12, 1872, and was buried on the original place. His wife died March 25, 1859, aged sixty-two years, ten months, and twenty-four days. Moses Robins was born in Bethlehem (now Union) township, Hunterdon Co., N.. J., Sept. 3, 1826. Is this history correct? From the a bove I get: 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 - 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins, Jr. (abt 1729 - 1796) 3) Jonathan Robins, IV (1793 - 1872) 4) Moses Robins (1826) It seems like there's a generation missing between #2 and #3. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2177 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-02-10 16:10:22 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Message: Agree, William Robins b. abt. 1727-1811 may have been a son of Jonathan Robins 1694-1774. William was discussed here as a possible Jonathan son along with possible daughter Deborah Robins abt. 1724-? Deborah Robins was the wife of Jonathan Pettit 1721-1768. We know from the Will of Jonathan Pettit written 20 Oct 1768 his brother-in-law was named William Robins. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 2:56 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Tracey, If I suggested Jonathan only had 2 sons then I shouldnā€™t have. I think William Robins (abt. 1727 ā€“ 1811) may also be a son of Jonathan. It was Jonathanā€™s son, Isaac, that only had 2 sons. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 2:11 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Right. But now I'm curious about the Jonathan who died in 1774 only having 2 sons: Jonathan and Isaac. His executor was William Robins--and I thought he was another son. 1774, Nov. 5. Robins, Jonathan, of Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. Int. Adm'r ā€” William Robins. Fellowbondsman ā€” William Bate; both of Bethlehem, said Co. 1774, Oct. 15. Inventory, Ā£371.2.11, made by Thomas Reeder and William Bate. Lib. 15, p. 505. Thoughts on that? Tracey On 2/10/2018 12:26 PM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tracey, From New Jersey Will Abstracts: 1784, Feb. 18 Robins, Isaac of Alexandria, Hunterdon Co. Int. Adm'x - Susannah Robins Fellowbondsman - Amos Smith; both of said place Witness - Thomas Reeder 1783, Oct. 7 Inventory, Ā£491.6.3 made by Thomas Reeder and George Kramer. Plantation of 220 acres, Ā£320 Yes, Isaac is the son of Jonathan who died in 1774. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 12:41 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. This is really great Garry! Good work! I've attached an orphan's court record for the Isaac who died between 1783 and 1793... Also, where it says "He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four daughters"... This is in reference to the Jonathan who died in 1774, right? I have that William Robbins who was his executor was also his son. Hmm. I wonder why he wasn't mentioned in that write up. Or--was William someone else's son?? Tracey On 2/10/2018 6:24 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@netflash.net [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Isaac Robbins (abt 1735 ā€“ 1783) died intestate in Alexandria Twp. 243.6 acres were later divided between his children. Probably this was the original Merrill purchase of 234 acres. Son Jonathan #3b, besides having hi s share also purchased property from at least 2 of his siblings. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:29 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. #1 Jonathan purchased the property in Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, in 1751 from Widow Merrill. This property was deeded to son Isaac in 1773. #4 Jonathan eventually acquired this property, which was passed on to son Jonas, ā€œJonas married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandriaā€ Iā€™m suggesting that son Isaac is the missing link in the family of #5 Moses. Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@netflash.net [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 6:48 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. It seems there is doubt with the History of Hunterdon County, NJ, article. 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 ā€“ 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) 3) a) Jonathan Robins III (abt 1755 ā€“ 1796) b) Jonathan Robins (abt 1760 ā€“ 1815) 4) Jonathan Robins IV (1793 ā€“ 1872) 5) Moses Robins (1826) I think #1 and #2 are accepted as correct. But we think #3a is correct, yet the History of Hunterdon County says we have #3b > #4 > #5, descending from #1. Isaac Robins, the brother of Jonathan Jr. (abt 1729 ā€“ 1796) had a son, Jonathan, who was alive when Isaac died in 1783, who was probably born about 1760. Whatā€™s the information on him? Garry From: 'Sara Hoffman' july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:26 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. Garry, The subject of the Jonathan Robinsā€™ was discussed on 1/20/18. Marshall has the best answer on the Jonathans. It may help answer your questions if you are able to access posts # 2090, 2088 & 2064. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 12:48 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Jonathan Robins Alexandria, Hunterdon, NJ. I'm confused with my information on the numerous Jonathan Robbins. From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, NJ: Moses' great-grandfather, Jonathan Robins, settled in Alexandria township, adjoining the "Old Hickory Tavern," in 1751, and bought land of" one Widow Merrill..." The original estate contained two hundred and eighty-live acres of land.. He had two sons, Jonathan and Isaac, and four daughters, the former bein g the grandfather of Moses Robins. He lived and reared a large family on the old estate. One of his sons, Jonathan, the third of that name, was the father of our subject. This Jonathan married Widow Charity Lawshe, and had by her nine children. George, James, and Ephraim, of the sons, are deceased, and one of the daughters, Mary, is deceased; those living are Moses, Jonas, Sylvester, Sarah, and Elizabeth. Jon as married Sarah Jane Case, and lives on the old homestead in Alexandria; Sylvester married Isabella Bird, and lives in Branchburg township, Somerset Co.; Sarah married James Sidders, and lives near Urbana, Ohio; Elizab eth married, fir.st, Reuben R. Wright, deceased, and second, Jonas Tharp ; they live in Union township adjoining tiie original homestead. Jonathan Robins, the father, bought out the heirs and owned most of the old homestead tract; and after his marriage to Widow Lawshe purchased the other homestead in Union township, where he died Dec. 12, 1872, and was buried on the original place. His wife died March 25, 1859, aged sixty-two years, ten m onths, and twenty-four days. Moses Robins was born in Bethlehem (now Union) township, Hunterdon Co., N.. J., Sept. 3, 1826. Is this history correct? From the a bove I get: 1) Jonathan Robins (1694 - 1774) 2) Jonathan Robins, Jr. (abt 1729 - 1796) 3) Jonathan Robins, IV (1793 - 1872) 4) Moses Robins (1826) It seems like there's a generation missing between #2 and #3. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2178 Sender:gheagy@... Post Date/Time:2018-02-11 08:00:12 Subject:Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Message: Ralph Robbins of Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ, was mentioned recently. It's an uncommon name for the Robbins of Hunterdon County. Jonathan Johnson was the Administrator for the Estate of Jonathan Robbins Jr. who died in 1796. This is probably the same Jonathan Johnson below: From New Jersey Abstract of Wills: 1807, May 14 Johnson, Jonathan, of Alexandria Twsp., Hunterdon Co. Inventory, $844.32; made by John Cooley and James Mettler Sworn to by John B. Allen, Adm'r, May 15, 1807 File 2260 J. It's interesting that John Cooley and James Mettler were involved in both Estates: From New Jersey Abstract of Wills: 1796, Oct. 18. Robins, Jonathan Jr., of Hunterdon Co. Int. Adm'r - Jonathan Johnson Fellowbondsmen - John Cooley and Henry Mettler; all of Alexandria Twsp., said Co. 1796, Oct. 14. Inventory, Ā£313.13.1; made by William Mettler and John Cooley File 1767J It's also interesting that Jonathan Johnson's father was named Ralph. Ralph Johnson lived in Alexandria Twp. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2179 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-02-11 08:25:02 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Message: Excellent lead, Garry! I've also been working the "William Kitchen" and "Richard Demott" angle, as they lived in Montour and were the sureties for Ralph when he received the letters of administration in Montour Co. for Rachel Robbins deceased of Hunterdon in 1851. I don't have anything concrete yet. There are several William Kitchens in Montour and Columbia Co. PA in 1850. One of them was: William Kitchen of Danville, Montour b. 1789 d. 1857. He was the son of a William Kitchen b. 1753. And was supposedly the grand-son of Henry Kitchen and Jane Robbins. (Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor Abbott of Amwell.) Kind of interesting. The Richard Demott appears to be b. 1800; son of Richard Demott and Mary Albright. One of this younger Richard's sisters, Elizabeth, was married to Henry Kitchen b. 1801 son of Wheeler Kitchen Jr. and Sarah. Another of Richard's sisters, Sarah, was married to John Mannon or Manning. They had a daughter Mary b. 1804 who married a John Robbins b. 1800, son of Joseph Robbins and Catherine Harris of Columbia Co. PA. Maybe Rachel Robbins, deceased of Hunterdon is related to the Kitchens who went from Hunterdon to Northumberland / Columbia / Montour and had some property there that needed to be "administered" after her death? There were so MANY Kitchens in that area of Pennsylvania. Ralph did have a female aged about 17-19 years old than him living with him in the Hunterdon 1830 and 1840 censuses: Name: Ralph Robins Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Alexandria, Hunterdon, New Jersey Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 2 Free White Persons - Males - 15 thru 19: 1 Free White Persons - Males - 50 thru 59: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 40 thru 49: 2 Free White Persons - Females - 60 thru 69: 1 Free White Persons - Under 20: 4 Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2 Total Free White Persons: 8 Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 8 Name: Ralph Robins Home in 1840 (City, County, State): Alexandria, Hunterdon, New Jersey Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29: 1 Free White Persons - Males - 60 thru 69: 1 (Ralph was 61) Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 40 thru 49: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 50 thru 59: 1 (Susan was 58 in 1840) Free White Persons - Females - 70 thru 79: 1 (Rachel perhaps? She might have been 17 or 18 years older than Ralph) Persons Employed in Agriculture: 2 Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 3 Total Free White Persons: 6 Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 6 So...maybe Rachel was his mother...a young mother...The research rages on! :-) Tracey On 2/11/2018 9:00 AM, gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Ralph Robbins of Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ, was mentioned recently. It's an uncommon name for the Robbins of Hunterdon County. Jonathan Johnson was the Administrator for the Estate of Jonathan Robbins Jr. who died in 1796. This is probably the same Jonathan Johnson below: From New Jersey Abstract of Wills: 1807, May 14 Johnson, Jonathan, of Alexandria Twsp., Hunterdon Co. Inventory, $844.32; made by John Cooley and James Mettler Sworn to by John B. Allen, Adm'r, May 15, 1807 File 2260 J. It's interesting that John Cooley and James Mettler were involved in both Estates: From New Jersey Abstract of Wills: 1796, Oct. 18. Robins, Jonathan Jr., of Hunterdon Co. Int. Adm'r - Jonathan Johnson Fellowbondsmen - John Cooley and Henry Mettler; all of Alexandria Twsp., said Co. 1796, Oct. 14. Inventory, Ā£313.13.1; made by William Mettler and John Cooley File 1767J It's also interesting that Jonathan Johnson's father was named Ralph. Ralph Johnson lived in Alexandria Twp. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2180 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-02-11 10:31:04 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Message: Garry, The Cooley, Mettler, Robins & Johnson families of Alexandria Township were most likely all related in some way, blood relatives, in-laws, neighbors. I donā€™t believe anyone has put a lot of time in connecting all these f amilies. However, we do have Robins research on the relationship of William Mettler one of the men who took the inventory of Jonathan Robins, Jr. on 14 Oct 1796. William Mettlerā€™s daughter Elizabeth ā€œElizaā€™ Mettler was b. 3 Nov 1808, d. 29 May 1876 Bloomsbury, Hunterdon Co., NJ. She was the first wife of Isaac Garrison, Sr. b. 1 Oct 1795 Alexandria, Hunterdon Co., d. 4 Feb 1888, Bloomsbury. Isaac Garrison Sr. was the son of James & D inah Robins Garrison. Dinah Robins 1772-1857 was daughter of Isaac Robins b. abt. 1735, d. between 1783-1793 & his wife Susannah. Source: Dorman Nelson, author & researcher also member here & NJ certified genealogist Fred Sissler. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 8:00 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Ralph Robbins of Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ, was mentioned recently. It's an uncommon name for the Robbins of Hunterdon County. Jonathan Johnson was the Administrator for the Estate of Jonathan Robbins Jr. who died in 1796. This is probably the same Jonathan Johnson below: From New Jersey Abstract of Wills: 1807, May 14 Johnson, Jonathan, of Alexandria Twsp., Hunterdon Co. Inventory, $844.32; made by John Cooley and James Mettler Sworn to by John B. Allen, Adm'r, May 15, 1807 File 2260 J. It's interesting that John Cooley and James Mettler were involved in both Estates: From New Jersey Abstract of Wills: 1796, Oct. 18. Robins, Jonathan Jr., of Hunterdon Co. Int. Adm'r - Jonathan Johnson Fellowbondsmen - John Cooley and Henry Mettler; all of Alexandria Twsp., said Co. 1796, Oct. 14. Inventory, Ā£313.13.1; made by William Mettler and John Cooley File 1767J It's also interesting that Jonathan Johnson's father was named Ralph. Ralph Johnson lived in Alexandria Twp. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2181 Sender:"Sara Hoffman" Post Date/Time:2018-02-11 12:15:03 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Message: Garry, Looking over my information that states Eliza Mettlerā€™s father was William Mettler. It seems like Eliza Mettler Garrisonā€™s father William Mettler would have been deceased by 1796 since she was born in 1808. If this info rmation is correct then the William Mettler who took the 1796 Jonathan Robins, Jr. inventory probably was her brother or even a nephew. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 10:31 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Garry, The Cooley, Mettler, Robins & Johnson families of Alexandria Township were most likely all related in some way, blood relatives, in-laws, neighbors. I donā€™t believe anyone has put a lot of time in connecting all these f amilies. However, we do have Robins research on the relationship of William Mettler one of the men who took the inventory of Jonathan Robins, Jr. on 14 Oct 1796. William Mettlerā€™s daughter Elizabeth ā€œElizaā€™ Mettler was b. 3 Nov 1808, d. 29 May 1876 Bloomsbury, Hunterdon Co., NJ. She was the first wife of Isaac Garrison, Sr. b. 1 Oct 1795 Alexandria, Hunterdon Co., d. 4 Feb 1888, Bloomsbury. Isaac Garrison Sr. was the son of James & D inah Robins Garrison. Dinah Robins 1772-1857 was daughter of Isaac Robins b. abt. 1735, d. between 1783-1793 & his wife Susannah. Source: Dorman Nelson, author & researcher also member here & NJ certified genealogist Fred Sissler. Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 8:00 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Ralph Robbins of Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ, was mentioned recently. It's an uncommon name for the Robbins of Hunterdon County. Jonathan Johnson was the Administrator for the Estate of Jonathan Robbins Jr. who died in 1796.. This is probably the same Jonathan Johnson below: From New Jersey Abstract of Wills: 1807, May 14 Johnson, Jonathan, of Alexandria Twsp., Hunterdon Co. Inventory, $844.32; made by John Cooley and James Mettler Sworn to by John B. Allen, Adm'r, May 15, 1807 File 2260 J.. It's interesting that John Cooley and James Mettler were involved in both Estates: From New Jersey Abstract of Wills: 1796, Oct. 18. Robins, Jonathan Jr., of Hunterdon Co. Int. Adm'r - Jonathan Johnson Fellowbondsmen - John Cooley and Henry Mettler; all of Alexandria Twsp., said Co. 1796, Oct. 14. Inventory, Ā£313.13.1; made by William Mettler and John Cooley File 1767J It's also interesting that Jonathan Johnson's father was named Ralph. Ralph Johnson lived in Alexandria Twp. Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2182 Sender:july37@... Post Date/Time:2018-02-11 13:52:05 Subject:RE:Leaving Group Message: Dear Group, Due to the recent terminal illness & the care that is required for one of my family members, I will be leaving the group starting today for an unknown period of time. I no longer have the time I'd like to devote to the research of my favorite subject the Daniel & Hope Potter Robins family. Hope to be with all of you again in the future. Sara ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2183 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-02-11 13:53:23 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] RE:Leaving Group Message: Sara, I'm SO sorry to hear this! I hope you will return soon. Tracey On 2/11/2018 2:52 PM, july37@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Dear Group, Due to the recent terminal illness & the care that is required for one of my family members, I will be leaving the group starting today for an unknown period of time. I no longer have the time I'd like to devote to the research of my favorite subject the Daniel & Hope Potter Robins family. Hope to be with all of you again in the future. Sara ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2184 Sender: Post Date/Time:2018-02-11 16:21:49 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] RE:Leaving Group Message: Sara, Many of us have walked in your shoes. God bless you and keep you as you travel this road. Hugs, Caroline Gilleece Calhoun ---- "Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2185 Sender:Cynthia Victor Post Date/Time:2018-02-11 16:33:47 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] RE:Leaving Group Message: Sara, Very sorry for such a difficult situation. Have been there. Wishing peace for you and your family. Cynthia > On Feb 11, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > Sara, > I'm SO sorry to hear this! > I hope you will return soon. > > Tracey > >> On 2/11/2018 2:52 PM, july37@cox.net [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: >> >> Dear Group, >> >> Due to the recent terminal illness & the care that is required for one of my family members, I will be leaving the group starting today for an unknown period of time. I no longer have the time I'd like to devote to t he research of my favorite subject the Daniel & Hope Potter Robins family. Hope to be with all of you again in the future. >> >> >> Sara >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2186 Sender:Bettylou Steadman Post Date/Time:2018-02-11 22:26:14 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] RE:Leaving Group Message: Sorry to hear this, Sara. Bettylou Dear Group, Due to the recent terminal illness & the care that is required for one of my family members, I will be leaving the group starting today for an unknown period of time. I no longer have the time I'd like to devote to the research of my favorite subject the Daniel & Hope Potter Robins family. Hope to be with all of you again in the future. Sara ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2187 Sender:Kathleen Crellin Post Date/Time:2018-02-12 16:19:43 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] RE:Leaving Group Message: I am sorry for this happening. Best wishes and come back when you can or check in if you want to. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, February 11, 2018, 11:29 PM, Bettylou Steadman wunderwoman@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Sorry to hear this, Sara. Bettylou Dear Group, Due to the recent terminal illness & the care that is required for one of my family members, I will be leaving the group starting today for an unknown period of time. I no longer have the time I'd like to devote to the research of my favorite subject the Daniel & Hope Potter Robins family. Hope to be with all of you again in the future. 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Post Date/Time:2018-02-17 10:05:31 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Message: I found an interesting newspaper ad in the Trenton Federalist, 5 December 1803. It lists 23 farms on a tract of land that had been called "Bierly's" and in 1803 was called Hamilton's tract. Among the names of the tenants on each farm are: Ralph Johnson Jonathan Johnson John Kitchen Joseph Colley William Mettler James Kitchen John Pursel Rachel (Rachael) Robbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2189 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-02-17 10:08:38 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Message: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2190 Sender:Roy Robbins Post Date/Time:2018-02-17 15:09:52 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Message: From Olde robins Burial Place. From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 12:09 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Oops. I meant to attach the ad. Here it is. Tracey On 2/17/2018 11:05 AM, tracey.marcelo@gmail.com [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: I found an interesting newspaper ad in the Trenton Federalist, 5 December 1803. It lists 23 farms on a tract of land that had been called "Bierly's" and in 1803 was called Hamilton's tract. Among the names of the tenants on each farm are: Ralph Johnson Jonathan Johnson John Kitchen Joseph Colley William Mettler James Kitchen John Pursel Rachel (Rachael) Robbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2191 Sender:tracey.marcelo@... Post Date/Time:2018-02-17 16:21:04 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Message: Thanks Roy. But that's a different Rachel. This Rachel was probably born around 1760 and died before 1850. Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2192 Sender:richard.robbins13@... Post Date/Time:2018-02-18 10:29:19 Subject:Big Y sorting by genealogy- also potential matching for Y- DNA kits in site? Message: Recently, I've been getting a few matches for my Big Y kit at FTDNA, and I've been working on the genealogies of the test takers, as much as possible given the information given. It seems as if all three of the kits match a specific haplogroup, which is now at R-Y34195. There's novel variants that seem to differentiate these kits, though. I'm hoping to use the variants omeday with further resea rch to know which branch of the family these variants come from... but that will have to wait. Through traditional genealogy, the three kits seem to come from three different sons of Daniel Robins. Aaron Robbins, which seems to be through the PA branch so far, Daniel Robins, which is the branch I am on, and Joseph Robins, who seems to be the ancestor of the North Carolina Robins bunch, genealogically. The 4th kit is showing as being descended from a Vincent Robbins, Mercer County PA. Nothing in Ancestry for this guy, anywhere. So, that's as far as I've gotten with the DNA and attempting to figure out how that all fits in with what is known by genealogists out there. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2193 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-02-18 10:58:43 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Big Y sorting by genealogy- also potential matching for Y- DNA kits in site? Message: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2194 Sender:richard.robbins13@... Post Date/Time:2018-02-18 11:37:59 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Big Y sorting by genealogy- also potential matching for Y- DNA kits in site? Message: Sure looks like the same Vincent. The DNA kit associated with you was which one? Or do you not have one at all and are just doing genealogy? Do you mind if I forward all of that to the person that has the DNA on the site? Maybe there's a tree. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2195 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-02-18 12:18:38 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Big Y sorting by genealogy- also potential matching for Y- DNA kits in site? Message: I was looking at that Vincent while discussing Cris' Vincent and Garry's Vincent. I don't know that my Robbins (Daniel Robbins b about 1730-1740 of Oxford twp Sussex County NJ) is closely related to any Vincent. I was just trying to sort them out! Please do share the info. I'd love to know how the participant knows he descends from that specific Robbins! Let me know if you find out anything! Tracey On Feb 18, 2018 1:14 PM, "richard.robbins13@yahoo.com [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: > > > Sure looks like the same Vincent. The DNA kit associated with you was > which one? Or do you not have one at all and are just doing genealogy? > > Do you mind if I forward all of that to the person that has the DNA on the > site? Maybe there's a tree. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2196 Sender:richard.robbins13@... Post Date/Time:2018-02-18 12:33:26 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Big Y sorting by genealogy- also potential matching for Y- DNA kits in site? Message: I don't know if you are aware that my Daniel b 1736 d 1802 is from Sussex. I think a LONG time ago we may have had a convo about it. Maybe a different email as well. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2197 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-02-18 12:53:33 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Big Y sorting by genealogy- also potential matching for Y- DNA kits in site? Message: Right! My Daniel is the one married to Sarah Blatchley, and he is the son of Joshua Robbins b. between 1698-1716. Yours is the father of Stephen, Daniel, Abigail and Isaac. Right? And your Daniel was the son of John Robbins b. 1695 and wife Eleanor. I believe your John b. 1695 and my Joshua were brothers; both sons of Daniel Robbins b. 1666. Tracey On 2/18/2018 1:33 PM, richard.robbins13@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: I don't know if you are aware that my Daniel b 1736 d 1802 is from Sussex. I think a LONG time ago we may have had a convo about it. Maybe a different email as well. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2198 Sender:ffb2usa@... Post Date/Time:2018-02-21 07:18:34 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Big Y sorting by genealogy- also potential matching for Y- DNA kits in site? Message: John and Eleanor had a son named Daniel? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 18, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > Right! My Daniel is the one married to Sarah Blatchley, and he is the son of Joshua Robbins b. between 1698-1716. > Yours is the father of Stephen, Daniel, Abigail and Isaac. Right? And your Daniel was the son of John Robbins b. 1695 and wife Eleanor. > > I believe your John b. 1695 and my Joshua were brothers; both sons of Daniel Robbins b. 1666. > > Tracey > >> On 2/18/2018 1:33 PM, richard.robbins13@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: >> >> I don't know if you are aware that my Daniel b 1736 d 1802 is from Sussex. I think a LONG time ago we may have had a convo about it. Maybe a different email as well. >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2199 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-02-21 18:02:02 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Big Y sorting by genealogy- also potential matching for Y- DNA kits in site? Message: I have that they had a son Daniel who was born in 1737, m. Anne, and died in Sussex Co. in 1802. Perhaps someone can confirm that? I don't know what the "proof" is. Tracey On 2/21/2018 8:18 AM, ffb2usa@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: John and Eleanor had a son named Daniel? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 18, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Right! My Daniel is the one married to Sarah Blatchley, and he is the son of Joshua Robbins b. between 1698-1716. Yours is the father of Stephen, Daniel, Abigail and Isaac. Right? And your Daniel was the son of John Robbins b. 1695 and wife Eleanor. I believe your John b. 1695 and my Joshua were brothers; both sons of Daniel Robbins b. 1666. Tracey On 2/18/2018 1:33 PM, richard.robbins13@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: I don't know if you are aware that my Daniel b 1736 d 1802 is from Sussex. I think a LONG time ago we may have had a convo about it. Maybe a different email as well. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2200 Sender:Dorman Nelson Post Date/Time:2018-02-20 14:08:21 Subject:news on Robbins Message: Howdy, I just got the Hunterdon Historical Record and on page 1277 is a note about Collection 194: The Robbins Family Papers 1766-2007 A descendant of the Robbins family of Bloomsbury, New Jersey had this collection in the estate. Personal diaries of Charles C. Robins and items in 255 folders in 7 boxes. Would be interesting to see what was there. Dorman ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2201 Sender:richard.robbins13@... Post Date/Time:2018-03-04 09:01:07 Subject:Re: Big Y sorting by genealogy- also potential matching for Y- DNA kits in site? Message: Daniel d1802 is father of Stephen, Daniel, Abigail, and Isaac, also 1 more that was mentioned to be in Gainsborough Twp in 1800 in Abigail Vaughan's husband's land grant. Father of Daniel 1802 is John, per Sara. Tracey, sounds like the same guy. ---In robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have that they had a son Daniel who was born in 1737, m. Anne, and died in Sussex Co. in 1802. Perhaps someone can confirm that? I don't know what the "proof" is. Tracey On 2/21/2018 8:18 AM, ffb2usa@... mailto:ffb2usa@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: John and Eleanor had a son named Daniel? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 18, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... mailto:tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Right! My Daniel is the one married to Sarah Blatchley, and he is the son of Joshua Robbins b. between 1698-1716. Yours is the father of Stephen, Daniel, Abigail and Isaac. Right? And your Daniel was the son of John Robbins b. 1695 and wife Eleanor. I believe your John b. 1695 and my Joshua were brothers; both sons of Daniel Robbins b. 1666. Tracey On 2/18/2018 1:33 PM, richard.robbins13@... mailto:richard.robbins13@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: I don't know if you are aware that my Daniel b 1736 d 1802 is from Sussex. I think a LONG time ago we may have had a convo about it. Maybe a different email as well. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2202 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-03-05 08:29:44 Subject:Re: Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Message: From what I can find Bierly's/Hamilton's Tract was in Alexandria Twp. In 1803 Alexandria Twp bordered on Sussex County. One possibility I see is for a Rachel ROBBINS who in 1805 was living in Sussex Co and married Abraham SMITH on January 5 in Greenwich Presbyterian Church, Greenwich, Sussex County. I don't know the parents of this Rachel ROBBINS. By the way, I did not see the Trenton Federalist ad come through. > Posted by: tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx > Date: Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:06 am ((PST)) > > I found an interesting newspaper ad in the Trenton Federalist, 5 December 1803. > It lists 23 farms on a tract of land that had been called "Bierly's" and in 1803 was called Hamilton's tract. > > Among the names of the tenants on each farm are: > Ralph Johnson > Jonathan Johnson > John Kitchen > Joseph Colley > William Mettler > James Kitchen > John Pursel > Rachel (Rachael) Robbins -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2203 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-03-05 08:41:36 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] news on Robbins Message: This collection is from the estate of Charles Jay ALLEN (1921-2015). Charles' wife, Ruth Robbins HUFF, is a descendant of Moses ROBINS (1826-1889). Moses is a great grandson (or possibly g g grandson) of Jonathan ROBINS (1694-1774) who purchased land from Anne MERRILL in 1751. You can see a listing of what's in the collection here ... http://hunterdonhistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Collection-194-Container-List.pdf > Posted by: "Dorman Nelson" dormannelson@... > Date: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:41 pm ((PST)) > > Howdy, > > I just got the Hunterdon Historical Record and on page 1277 is a note > about Collection 194: The Robbins Family Papers 1766-2007 > > A descendant of the Robbins family of Bloomsbury, New Jersey had this > collection in the estate. Personal diaries of Charles C. Robins and > items in 255 folders in 7 boxes. Would be interesting to see what was > there. > > Dorman -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2204 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-03-05 09:18:14 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Message: Hi Marshall, Thanks for letting me know. I just uploaded it in the Files area. See if you can find it there or if this link works: https://xa.yimg.com/df/robbinsfamilysociety/Trenton_Federalist_1803-12-05_%5B1%5D.gif?token=qbfbOUBYHARpPlY0Vw1v5o0h3UXdoVe2JMYOxiMBRO37AQ3u0pSidmKdMO66p1KwNEuEy2kmZSzHUnCKTblA6NI6u3iy4idwg7jrRzD0eX5eNRK--CQ6Ls xk6-SzIrkaizdDz0u7IAo&type=download On 3/5/2018 9:29 AM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: ļæ½ From what I can find Bierly's/Hamilton's Tract was in Alexandria Twp. In 1803 Alexandria Twp bordered on Sussex County. One possibility I see is for a Rachel ROBBINS who in 1805 was living in Sussex Co and married Abraham SMITH on January 5 in Greenwich Presbyterian Church, Greenwich, Sussex County. I don't know the parents of this Rachel ROBBINS. By the way, I did not see the Trenton Federalist ad come through. > Posted by: tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx > Date: Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:06 am ((PST)) > > I found an interesting newspaper ad in the Trenton Federalist, 5 December 1803. > It lists 23 farms on a tract of land that had been called "Bierly's" and in 1803 was called Hamilton's tract. > > Among the names of the tenants on each farm are: > Ralph Johnson > Jonathan Johnson > John Kitchen > Joseph Colley > William Mettler > James Kitchen > John Pursel > Rachel (Rachael) Robbins -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2205 Sender:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Post Date/Time:2018-03-05 09:15:17 Subject:New file uploaded to robbinsfamilysociety Message: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the robbinsfamilysociety group. File : /Trenton_Federalist_1803-12-05_[1].gif Uploaded by : marcelofamilytx Description : Bierly/Byerly tract property sale in Hunterdon Co. You can access this file at the URL: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/robbinsfamilysociety/files/Trenton_Federalist_1803-12-05_%5B1%5D.gif To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_GRPS&locale=en_US&id=SLN15398 Regards, marcelofamilytx ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2206 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-03-05 10:10:45 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, 1737-1802 (was: Big Y sorting by genealogy- also potential matching for Y-DNA kits) Message: According to Sara ... BEGIN Daniel Robins is linked to his father John Robins, Sr. by the deed of Daniel Robins & his wife Ann to Jeremiah King in 1772. The deed states this land was acquired by Daniel's father John Robins in 1755 & conveyed to Daniel in 1761. END > Posted by: "Tracey Marcelo" tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx > Date: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:02 pm ((PST)) > > I have that they had a son Daniel who was born in 1737, > m. Anne, and died in Sussex Co. in 1802. > Perhaps someone can confirm that? > I don't know what the "proof" is. > > > Tracey >> On 2/21/2018 8:18 AM, ffb2usa@... >> [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: >> >> John and Eleanor had a son named Daniel? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2207 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-03-05 10:10:55 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Message: Rachel Robbins possessed 229 acres of land in 1803, in Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County. We know that Jonathan Robbins Jr. died in Alexandria Twp. in 1796. Possibly, Rachel was Jonathanā€™s wife. Ralph Robbins born 1779 is the administrator (or something similar) for property of Rachel Robbins of Hunterdon County in 1851. From the 1840 census for Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: Robins, Ralph 000010001-0000101101 Ralphā€™s wife was Susannah Vanderbilt born 1782. In the census Susannah is aged in her 50ā€™s. The oldest female could be Rachel Robbins, aged in her 70ā€™s, born 1760 ā€“ 1769. If she is Ralphā€™s mother, she would have born closer to 1760. I canā€™t find Rachel Robbins in the 1850 census, suggesting she died prior to the census. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 10:29 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ From what I can find Bierly's/Hamilton's Tract was in Alexandria Twp. In 1803 Alexandria Twp bordered on Sussex County. One possibility I see is for a Rachel ROBBINS who in 1805 was living in Sussex Co and married Abraham SMITH on January 5 in Greenwich Presbyterian Church, Greenwich, Sussex County. I don't know the parents of this Rachel ROBBINS. By the way, I did not see the Trenton Federalist ad come through. > Posted by: tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx > Date: Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:06 am ((PST)) > > I found an interesting newspaper ad in the Trenton Federalist, 5 December 1803. > It lists 23 farms on a tract of land that had been called "Bierly's" and in 1803 was called Hamilton's tract. > > Among the names of the tenants on each farm are: > Ralph Johnson > Jonathan Johnson > John Kitchen > Joseph Colley > William Mettler > James Kitchen > John Pursel > Rachel (Rachael) Robbins -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2208 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-03-05 10:15:34 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, 1737-1802 Message: Excellent! Thanks Marshall! On 3/5/2018 11:10 AM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: According to Sara ... BEGIN Daniel Robins is linked to his father John Robins, Sr. by the deed of Daniel Robins & his wife Ann to Jeremiah King in 1772. The deed states this land was acquired by Daniel's father John Robins in 1755 & conveyed to Daniel in 1761. END > Posted by: "Tracey Marcelo" tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx > Date: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:02 pm ((PST)) > > I have that they had a son Daniel who was born in 1737, > m. Anne, and died in Sussex Co. in 1802. > Perhaps someone can confirm that? > I don't know what the "proof" is. > > > Tracey >> On 2/21/2018 8:18 AM, ffb2usa@... >> [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: >> >> John and Eleanor had a son named Daniel? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2209 Sender:laurie8806 Post Date/Time:2018-04-11 04:46:54 Subject:RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] The Kitchen Cemetery - GOODSPEED HISTORIES Message: Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "'Sara Hoffman' july37@cox.net [robbinsfamilysociety]" Date: 2/2/18 1:11 AM (GMT-05:00) To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [robbinsfamilysociety] The Kitchen Cemetery - GOODSPEED HISTORIES Cynthia & group,Thank you Cynthia for referring us to the excellent article by Marfy Goodspeed on the Kitchen Cemetery. Iā€™m not a Kitchen family researcher, anyhow I enjoyed reading their history & seeing the grav eyard photos. There were a couple of things that stood out. Marfy gives the family history of Henry Kitchen (1680-1745) & his wife Ann Wheeler of Hunterdon Co., NJ. It was interesting to me since the topic of Vincent R obins has been discussed here in the past week. The 1800 census for Greenwood, Northumberland Co., PA. lists a Vincent Robins & William Robins ages 26-44. The same census lists the names Samuel Kitchen & Wheeler Kitchen ages 26-44. Possibly, Samuel & Wheeler Kitchen were related to Vincent & William Robins through Ann Kitchen wife of Vincent Robins b. ca. 1723 in NJ, d. between 1757 & 1775 NJ. These Robins & Kitchen men certainly have Hunterdon Co., NJ roots, whether they were born in NJ or PA.Marfy has Lydia Prall wife of Amos Thatcher. Cynthia has posted that she hasnā€™t found Lydia Thatcherā€™s maiden name to be Prall in her research. Iā€™ve not come across anything either. This information has been passed around the genealogy circles but as far as I know never validated. Sa ra From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 7:58 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] The Kitchen Cemetery ā€“ GOODSPEED HISTORIES Found the article Marcy wrote about Kitchen Family Cemetery that has some Thatcher info. https://goodspeedhistories.com/the-kitchen-cemetery/ Sent from my iPad ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2210 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-04-13 19:36:37 Subject:Burlington Co, NJ Births Message: ROBINS named in Burlington County, NJ Birth Records .... from "Proceedings of the New Jersey Historical Society", Vol III, 1918 Burlington County Birth Records Sep 23, 1772 William Robins had a son born the fourth of the week. Apr 22, 1773 Richard Robins had a daughter born the fifth day of the week. May 5, 1774 Daniel Robins daughter Rachel had a daughter born in Upper Freehold, Monmouth County. May 9, 1774 Isaiah Robins had a daughter born the second day of the week. Jan 30, 1775 Aaron Robins had a son born the second day. Jul 18, 1777 Isaiah Robins had a son born the sixth day. Question - which day would be the first day of the week? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2211 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-04-13 19:31:34 Subject:Warren Co, NJ, 1887 Message: ROBINS/ROBBINS appearing in an 1887 Warren Co, NJ directory ... Hackettstown 1887 Directory Robbins, Thomas S, Clarendon Hotel, Rockport Blairstown Township 1887 Directory Robins, George, shoemaker, Blairstown Harmony Township 1887 Directory Robins, Peter, laborer, Roxburg -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2212 Sender:Jeff Brown Post Date/Time:2018-05-16 09:35:37 Subject:VIEW FILE Message: ONLINE_ PDF_ DOCUMENT Safe And Secured For The Benefit Of All Users Good morning, I sent you a document via ADOBE PDF. VIEW DOCUMENT HERE Kindly get back to me if you got any question. Thanks, Jeff Brown ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2213 Sender:gheagy@... Post Date/Time:2018-05-18 02:19:35 Subject:Re: VIEW FILE Message: What does this document relate to? I'm very reluctant to click on links. Thanks, Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2214 Sender:richard.robbins13@... Post Date/Time:2018-05-21 08:57:32 Subject:Re: VIEW FILE Message: Not a PDF. So, I would not do it. it is from a foreign address , and is a HTML file. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2215 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-05-21 11:17:38 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: VIEW FILE Message: Sounds like good advice, thanks. From: richard.robbins13@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 11:57 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: VIEW FILE Not a PDF. So, I would not do it. it is from a foreign address , and is a HTML file. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2216 Sender:Shirley Hawley Post Date/Time:2018-05-21 12:43:36 Subject:Odd Message: I have been deleting odd messages sent in our groups name. Shirley Sent from my iPad ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2217 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-05-21 13:23:25 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: Ralph Robbins born 1779 Hunterdon County, NJ Message: I was able to download the file. Thanks, Tracey. By the way, just an FYI to anyone interested (perhaps the administrator is reading this). Today (May 21) I received the first digest from this list since March 2 or 3. The digest contained 15 messages, the oldest dated March 5 and the newest dated May 21. It used to be I would receive a digest every day or two as long there was at least one message to send. Maybe yahoo has changed the way they issue digests? > Posted by: "Tracey Marcelo" tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx > Date: Mon Mar 5, 2018 8:18 am ((PST)) > > > Hi Marshall, > > Thanks for letting me know. I just uploaded it in the > Files area. > > > See if you can find it there or if this link works: > https://xa.yimg.com/df/robbinsfamilysociety/Trenton_Federalist_18\ > 03-12-05_%5B1%5D.gif?token=qbfbOUBYHARpPlY0Vw1v5o0h3UXdoVe2JMYOxi\ > MBRO37AQ3u0pSidmKdMO66p1KwNEuEy2kmZSzHUnCKTblA6NI6u3iy4idwg7jrRzD\ > 0eX5eNRK--CQ6Lsxk6-SzIrkaizdDz0u7IAo&type=download > 803-12-05_%5B1%5D.gif?token=qbfbOUBYHARpPlY0Vw1v5o0h3UXdoVe2JMYOx\ > iMBRO37AQ3u0pSidmKdMO66p1KwNEuEy2kmZSzHUnCKTblA6NI6u3iy4idwg7jrRz\ > D0eX5eNRK--CQ6Lsxk6-SzIrkaizdDz0u7IAo&type=download> > On 3/5/2018 9:29 AM, Marshall Lake mlake@... > [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > From what I can find Bierly's/Hamilton's Tract was in Alexandria Twp. In > 1803 Alexandria Twp bordered on Sussex County. > > One possibility I see is for a Rachel ROBBINS who in 1805 was living in > Sussex Co and married Abraham SMITH on January 5 in Greenwich > Presbyterian Church, Greenwich, Sussex County. I don't know the parents > of this Rachel ROBBINS. > > By the way, I did not see the Trenton Federalist ad come through. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2218 Sender:richard.robbins13@... Post Date/Time:2018-05-21 13:23:12 Subject:Re: Odd Message: What messages are you seeing?? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2219 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-06-07 07:03:26 Subject:Re: Odd Message: I assume your question is in reference to my posting. Today (June 7) I received a digest containing two messages ... the one I posted on May 21 and the one posted below. > 2a. Re: Odd > Posted by: richard.robbins13@... richard.robbins13 > Date: Mon May 21, 2018 1:25 pm ((PDT)) > > What messages are you seeing?? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2220 Sender:richard.robbins13@... Post Date/Time:2018-06-08 08:09:17 Subject:Re: Odd Message: Was a reply to Shirley regarding her message. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2221 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-06-09 21:03:22 Subject:Elizabeth ROBINS married John MORFORD Message: In "Records and News of All Branches of the Morford Family of America," Vol. 2, No. 2, Apr 1981, Mrs. Harold L. Adams, F.A.S.G., Route 1, Box 43-C, Shelley, Idaho 83274 it is stated: "John Morford was of Upper Freehold, Monmouth Co., N.J., 18 February 1739, when he was granted by Gov. Lewis Morris of N.J. a license to wed Elizabeth Robins, daughter of Daniel Robins of the same place, yeoman; and was still of Upper Freehold in September 1739 when his name appears as bondsman, along with that of his brother Thomas, for the latter's marriage to Ann Lawrie." It has been speculated that Daniel ROBINS (b 1692 in Woodbridge, son of Daniel ROBINS (1666-c1735) and Mary PARKER (1672-1692), married Elizabeth ------) had daughters Elizabeth and Hannah. Daniel (b 1692) acquired land from his father in Upper Freehold Twp in 1723 and sold land there in 1748. Has anyone been able to prove that Daniel (b 1692) did indeed have daughters Elizabeth and Hannah? Is there another Daniel ROBINS who could qualify to be the father of Elizabeth who married John MORFORD ? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2222 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-07-09 14:29:58 Subject:William ROBINS Jr Message: Tracey, A while ago you posted the following ... ------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx Date: Thu Feb 8, 2018 3:51 pm ((PST)) I have a notation in my files that says: William Robbins b. 12 Aug 1767 d. 1788 son of William Robbins of Bethlehem twp. Hunterdon Co. NJ who died in 1811 and wife Mary Hunt. Is this death date correct? Is there a source for this date? I'm not sure where I got it! ------------------------------------------------------------- Just today I came across a file in my computer "attic", in part .... Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 17:22:27 -0000 From: "jrobns" Subject: William Robbins 1724 to 1811 Below are just the bare bone names and dates. For souce information along with additional census data I will attempt to upload a zip file to the files section. Enjoy James P. Robbins ---------------------------- Descendants of William Robbins Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM1 ROBBINS was born February 24, 1724/25, and died May 10, 1811 in Bethelehem, Hunterdon Co., NJ. He married MARY ? October 06, 1745 (in Chedworth, Gloucester, England??). She was born August 28, 1731, and died June 1778. Children of WILLIAM ROBBINS and MARY ? are: i. ELIZABETH2 ROBBINS, b. July 05, 1752, ; d. Lowden Co., VA; m. ? EVELAND; b. Abt. 1752. 2. ii. CHARITY ROBBINS, b. December 25, 1753, New Jersey; d. November 09, 1831, Madison Twsp, Columbia Co, PA. iii. MARY ROBBINS, b. October 25, 1755, ; d. Colrain Twsp, Belmont Co, OH; m. ROBERT WILSON; b. Abt. 1751, . 3. iv. REBECCA ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1756, . 4. v. DIANA ROBBINS, b. September 10, 1757, Greenwich Twp, Sussex Co., NJ; d. Aft. 1833, Columbia Co., PA. 5. vi. THOMAS H. ROBBINS, b. November 03, 1760, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. November 06, 1838, Pennsylvania. 6. vii. JONATHAN ROBBINS, b. March 26, 1762, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. January 15, 1818, Columbia Co., PA. 7. viii. JOHN ROBBINS, b. 1766, Bethlehem, Hunterdon Co, NJ; d. Abt. 1850, Columbia Co., PA. ix. WILLIAM ROBBINS, b. August 12, 1767; d. October 16,1788. 8. x. DANIEL ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1771, New Jersey; d. 1856. Maybe there is a file in the FILES section containing more info and sources. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2223 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-07-09 18:54:19 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS Jr Message: Great! Thanks a bunch Marshall! Tracey On 7/9/2018 4:29 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: ļæ½ Tracey, A while ago you posted the following ... ---------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx Date: Thu Feb 8, 2018 3:51 pm ((PST)) I have a notation in my files that says: William Robbins b. 12 Aug 1767 d. 1788 son of William Robbins of Bethlehem twp. Hunterdon Co. NJ who died in 1811 and wife Mary Hunt. Is this death date correct? Is there a source for this date? I'm not sure where I got it! ---------------------------------------------------------- Just today I came across a file in my computer "attic", in part .... Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 17:22:27 -0000 From: "jrobns" Subject: William Robbins 1724 to 1811 Below are just the bare bone names and dates. For souce information along with additional census data I will attempt to upload a zip file to the files section. Enjoy James P. Robbins ---------------------------- Descendants of William Robbins Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM1 ROBBINS was born February 24, 1724/25, and died May 10, 1811 in Bethelehem, Hunterdon Co., NJ. He married MARY ? October 06, 1745 (in Chedworth, Gloucester, England??). She was born August 28, 1731, and died June 1778. Children of WILLIAM ROBBINS and MARY ? are: i. ELIZABETH2 ROBBINS, b. July 05, 1752, Hunterdon Co., NJ>; d. Lowden Co., VA; m. ? EVELAND; b. Abt. 1752. 2. ii. CHARITY ROBBINS, b. December 25, 1753, New Jersey; d. November 09, 1831, Madison Twsp, Columbia Co, PA. iii. MARY ROBBINS, b. October 25, 1755, Hunterdon Co, NJ>; d. Colrain Twsp, Belmont Co, OH; m. ROBERT WILSON; b. Abt. 1751, . 3. iv. REBECCA ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1756, . 4. v. DIANA ROBBINS, b. September 10, 1757, Greenwich Twp, Sussex Co., NJ; d. Aft. 1833, Columbia Co., PA. 5. vi. THOMAS H. ROBBINS, b. November 03, 1760, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. November 06, 1838, Pennsylvania. 6. vii. JONATHAN ROBBINS, b. March 26, 1762, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. January 15, 1818, Columbia Co., PA. 7. viii. JOHN ROBBINS, b. 1766, Bethlehem, Hunterdon Co, NJ; d. Abt. 1850, Columbia Co., PA. ix. WILLIAM ROBBINS, b. August 12, 1767; d. October 16,1788. 8. x. DANIEL ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1771, New Jersey; d. 1856. Maybe there is a file in the FILES section containing more info and sources. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2224 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-07-10 02:26:03 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS Jr Message: Hi Marshall, Iā€™ve collected some information on the children of William who moved to Columbia County, PA. I donā€™t recall any descendants making a post. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 5:29 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS Jr Tracey, A while ago you posted the following ... ---------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx Date: Thu Feb 8, 2018 3:51 pm ((PST)) I have a notation in my files that says: William Robbins b. 12 Aug 1767 d. 1788 son of William Robbins of Bethlehem twp. Hunterdon Co. NJ who died in 1811 and wife Mary Hunt. Is this death date correct? Is there a source for this date? I'm not sure where I got it! ---------------------------------------------------------- Just today I came across a file in my computer "attic", in part .... Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 17:22:27 -0000 From: "jrobns" Subject: William Robbins 1724 to 1811 Below are just the bare bone names and dates. For souce information along with additional census data I will attempt to upload a zip file to the files section. Enjoy James P. Robbins ---------------------------- Descendants of William Robbins Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM1 ROBBINS was born February 24, 1724/25, and died May 10, 1811 in Bethelehem, Hunterdon Co., NJ. He married MARY ? October 06, 1745 (in Chedworth, Gloucester, England??). She was born August 28, 1731, and died June 1778. Children of WILLIAM ROBBINS and MARY ? are: i. ELIZABETH2 ROBBINS, b. July 05, 1752, ; d. Lowden Co., VA; m. ? EVELAND; b. Abt. 1752. 2. ii. CHARITY ROBBINS, b. December 25, 1753, New Jersey; d. November 09, 1831, Madison Twsp, Columbia Co, PA. iii. MARY ROBBINS, b. October 25, 1755, ; d. Colrain Twsp, Belmont Co, OH; m. ROBERT WILSON; b. Abt. 1751, . 3. iv. REBECCA ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1756, . 4. v. DIANA ROBBINS, b. September 10, 1757, Greenwich Twp, Sussex Co., NJ; d. Aft. 1833, Columbia Co., PA. 5. vi. THOMAS H. ROBBINS, b. November 03, 1760, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. November 06, 1838, Pennsylvania. 6. vii. JONATHAN ROBBINS, b. March 26, 1762, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. January 15, 1818, Columbia Co., PA. 7. viii. JOHN ROBBINS, b. 1766, Bethlehem, Hunterdon Co, NJ; d. Abt. 1850, Columbia Co., PA. ix. WILLIAM ROBBINS, b. August 12, 1767; d. October 16,1788. 8. x. DANIEL ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1771, New Jersey; d. 1856. Maybe there is a file in the FILES section containing more info and sources. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2225 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-07-10 09:29:08 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS Jr Message: I seem to recall the original posting (in 2006) being to the Robins yahoo list, but it looks like the message archives don't go back further than 2010. Here's the original posting in it's entirety ... Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 17:22:27 -0000 From: "jrobns" Subject: William Robbins 1724 to 1811 Below are just the bare bone names and dates. For souce information along with additional census data I will attempt to upload a zip file to the files section. Enjoy James P. Robbins ---------------------------- Descendants of William Robbins Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM1 ROBBINS was born February 24, 1724/25, and died May 10, 1811 in Bethelehem, Hunterdon Co., NJ. He married MARY ? October 06, 1745 (in Chedworth, Gloucester, England??). She was born August 28, 1731, and died June 1778. Children of WILLIAM ROBBINS and MARY ? are: i. ELIZABETH2 ROBBINS, b. July 05, 1752, ; d. Lowden Co., VA; m. ? EVELAND; b. Abt. 1752. 2. ii. CHARITY ROBBINS, b. December 25, 1753, New Jersey; d. November 09, 1831, Madison Twsp, Columbia Co, PA. iii. MARY ROBBINS, b. October 25, 1755, ; d. Colrain Twsp, Belmont Co, OH; m. ROBERT WILSON; b. Abt. 1751, . 3. iv. REBECCA ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1756, . 4. v. DIANA ROBBINS, b. September 10, 1757, Greenwich Twp, Sussex Co., NJ; d. Aft. 1833, Columbia Co., PA. 5. vi. THOMAS H. ROBBINS, b. November 03, 1760, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. November 06, 1838, Pennsylvania. 6. vii. JONATHAN ROBBINS, b. March 26, 1762, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. January 15, 1818, Columbia Co., PA. 7. viii. JOHN ROBBINS, b. 1766, Bethlehem, Hunterdon Co, NJ; d. Abt. 1850, Columbia Co., PA. ix. WILLIAM ROBBINS, b. August 12, 1767; d. October 16, 1788. 8. x. DANIEL ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1771, New Jersey; d. 1856. Generation No. 2 2. CHARITY2 ROBBINS (WILLIAM1) was born December 25, 1753 in New Jersey, and died November 09, 1831 in Madison Twsp, Columbia Co, PA. She married DANIEL WELLIVER Abt. 1770. He was born 1747 in Hunterdon Co., NJ, and died July 08, 1825 in Madison twp, Columbia Co., PA. Children of CHARITY ROBBINS and DANIEL WELLIVER are: i. ABIGAIL3 WELLIVER, b. Abt. 1773, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. ? BODINE, Abt. 1800, Columbia Co., PA; b. Abt. 1770. ii. WILLIAM WELLIVER, b. January 16, 1774, New Jersey; d. September 30, 1842, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. ELIZABETH IKELER; b. Abt. 1780; d. Aft. September 30, 1842, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA. iii. OBADIAH WELLIVER, b. September 13, 1777, Near Sunbury, Northumberland Co., PA; d. September 15, 1839, Reiley, Butler Co., OH; m. HANNAH JOHNSTON, 1796, New Jersey; b. October 03, 1780, New Jersey; d. July 09, 1869, Reiley, Butler Co., OH. iv. JOHN WELLIVER, b. December 31, 1778, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; d. November 18, 1831, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. BARBARA ?; b. Abt. 1790, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; d. Abt. 1864, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA. v. REBECKA WELLIVER, b. Abt. 1779, New Jersey; m. ? JOHNSON. vi. MARY WELLIVER, b. November 20, 1782, Millville, Columbia Co., PA; d. June 20, 1855, Columbia Co., PA; m. FRANCIS ROTE, 1801, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; b. May 05, 1775, Germany; d. August 05, 1822, Columbia Co., PA. vii. ELIZABETH WELLIVER, b. 1783, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; d. Bef. 1823; m. ? BROWN. viii. JEMIMA WELLIVER, b. 1786, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. ? EVES. ix. SARAH WELLIVER, b. Bet. 1787 - 1788, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. ? WHITE. x. CHARITY WELLIVER, b. Abt. 1790, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA. xi. DANIEL WELLIVER, b. August 15, 1798, Pennsylvania; d. December 22, 1878, ?Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. SARAH EYER; b. September 11, 1801, Pennsylvania; d. January 11, 1855, Jerseytown, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA. 3. REBECCA2 ROBBINS (WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1756 in . She married VALENTINE CHRISTIAN Bet. 1776 - 1789. He was born 1756 in Hunterdon Co., NJ, and died Aft. 1832 in Columbia Co., PA. Children of REBECCA ROBBINS and VALENTINE CHRISTIAN are: i. MARY3 CHRISTIAN, b. Bet. 1785 - 1800. ii. VALENTINE CHRISTIAN, JR., b. April 05, 1790; d. November 06, 1860. iii. JOHN CHRISTIAN, b. October 03, 1794; d. May 06, 1849, Jackson Twp., Columbia Co., PA. 4. DIANA2 ROBBINS (WILLIAM1) was born September 10, 1757 in Greenwich Twp, Sussex Co., NJ, and died Aft. 1833 in Columbia Co., PA. She married HARMON KLINE 1778 in New Jersey, son of ABRAHAM KLINE and CHARITY KRAMER. He was born June 20, 1760 in Hunterdon Co., NJ, and died January 14, 1832 in Mt. Pleasant Twp, Columbia Co., PA. Children of DIANA ROBBINS and HARMON KLINE are: i. HARMON3 KLINE, b. April 17, 1779, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. March 20, 1851, Mt. Pleasant Twp, Columbia Co., PA. 9. ii. ABRAHAM KLINE, b. January 18, 1782, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. August 17, 1861. iii. THOMAS KLINE, b. 1781, Hunterdon Co., NJ; m. REBECCA ?. iv. WILLIAM KLINE, b. December 29, 1784, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. April 07, 1868; m. ELIZABETH DIETRICH. v. MORRIS KLINE, b. September 11, 1785, Hunterdon Co., NJ; m. ELIZABETH LEE. vi. MARY KLINE, b. June 05, 1787, Hunterdon Co., NJ; m. JOSEPH LEMON. vii. HANNAH KLINE, b. February 28, 1791, Columbia Co., PA; m. WILLIAM EMERY. viii. CATHERINE KLINE, b. June 01, 1792, Columbia Co., PA; d. March 23, 1826, Columbia Co., PA; m. JONATHAN LEMON. ix. REBECCA KLINE, b. June 09, 1794, Columbia Co., PA; m. JACOB JOHNSON. x. ELIZABETH KLINE, b. March 03, 1796, Columbia Co., PA; d. April 17, 1891, Hornellsville, Steuben Co., NY. xi. SARAH KLINE, b. July 30, 1798, Columbia Co., PA; d. February 20, 1876; m. ISAAC WELCH. xii. ISAAC KLINE, b. June 18, 1800, Columbia Co., PA; d. June 25, 1876; m. SOPHIA KRAMER; b. Abt. 1793, New Jersey. xiii. JACOB KLINE, b. June 26, 1802, Columbia Co., PA; m. REBECCA WELCH. xiv. JOHN KLINE, b. January 06, 1807, Hunterdon Co., NJ?. 5. THOMAS H.2 ROBBINS (WILLIAM1) was born November 03, 1760 in Hunterdon Co., NJ, and died November 06, 1838 in Pennsylvania. He married ELIZABETH KLINE 1781 in New Jersey, daughter of ABRAHAM KLINE and CHARITY KRAMER. She was born December 15, 1761 in Orangeville, Columbia Co., PA, and died November 23, 1831. Children of THOMAS ROBBINS and ELIZABETH KLINE are: i. CHARITY3 ROBBINS, b. May 05, 1782, New Jersey; m. JOHN KARNS. ii. MERCY ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1785, Wyoming Twp., Northumberland Co., PA; d. Abt. 1852. iii. WILLIAM ROBBINS, b. February 19, 1786, Wyoming Twp., Northumberland Co., PA; d. January 18, 1867, Fishing Creek Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. (1) ELIZA ?; b. April 03, 1783; d. February 12, 1858; m. (2) CATHERINE WILLET, Abt. 1820; b. 1787; d. 1825. iv. ABRAHAM ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1789, Pennsylvania; d. Abt. 1875, Fishing Creek Twp., Columbia Co., PA. 10. v. THOMAS ROBBINS, JR., b. September 12, 1791; d. December 25, 1857, Fishing Creek Twp., Columbia Co., PA. vi. MATTHIAS ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1793; m. SARAH ?. vii. JOHN ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1794; m. MARY ?. 11. viii. DANIEL ROBBINS, b. 1795; d. 1879, Fostoria, OH. ix. ISAAC ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1800 - 1804; m. ELIZABETH ?. 6. JONATHAN2 ROBBINS (WILLIAM1) was born March 26, 1762 in Hunterdon Co., NJ, and died January 15, 1818 in Columbia Co., PA. He married TAMER HAGAMAN Aft. 1782, daughter of JOSEPH HAGAMAN and NELLY ?. She was born November 13, 1759 in New Jersey, and died Aft. 1840. Children of JONATHAN ROBBINS and TAMER HAGAMAN are: 12. i. MARY3 ROBBINS, b. November 16, 1785, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. March 30, 1869, Fort Recovery, Mercer Co., OH. 13. ii. JOSEPH HAGERMAN ROBBINS, b. May 10, 1787, New Jersey; d. Abt. 1857, Mercer Co., OH. iii. LYDIAH ROBBINS, b. December 16, 1788; d. Bef. 1800. iv. ELEANOR ROBBINS, b. October 25, 1790. v. CHARITY ROBBINS, b. October 03, 1792. 14. vi. CATHERINE ROBBINS, b. November 10, 1794, New Jersey; d. November 17, 1868. 15. vii. ELIZABETH ROBBINS, b. March 24, 1797, Sugar Loaf Twp, Columbia Co., PA; d. August 21, 1862, Mercer Co., OH. 16. viii. WILLIAM J. ROBBINS, b. September 19, 1799, Pennsylvania; d. March 03, 1876, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA. ix. THOMAS ROBBINS, b. July 01, 1802. 17. x. ANN ROBBINS, b. March 25, 1805. 7. JOHN2 ROBBINS (WILLIAM1) was born 1766 in Bethlehem, Hunterdon Co, NJ, and died Abt. 1850 in Columbia Co., PA. He married MARY WOODARD. She was born Aft. 1745, and died Abt. 1850 in Columbia Co., PA. Children of JOHN ROBBINS and MARY WOODARD are: i. ?3 ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1790 - 1800. ii. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1799 - 1810. iii. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1800 - 1810. iv. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1800 - 1810. v. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1801 - 1810. vi. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1802 - 1810. vii. LYDIA A. ROBBINS, b. December 06, 1813, Iola, Greenwood Twp., Columbia Co., PA; d. December 07, 1851, Greenwood Twp., Columbia Co., PA. 8. DANIEL2 ROBBINS (WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1771 in New Jersey, and died 1856. He married CATHERINE LUNGER Abt. 1795 in Greenwich Twp., Sussex Co., NJ, daughter of JACOB LUNGER and JULIANA HULSHIZER. She was born October 26, 1774 in Greenwich Twp., Sussex Co., NJ, and died Bet. 1841 - 1850. Children of DANIEL ROBBINS and CATHERINE LUNGER are: i. ?3 ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1790 - 1800. ii. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1791 - 1800. 18. iii. ELISHA ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1809, Pennsylvania. iv. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1800 - 1810. v. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1800 - 1804. vi. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1801 - 1810. vii. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1804 - 1810. Generation No. 3 9. ABRAHAM3 KLINE (DIANA2 ROBBINS, WILLIAM1) was born January 18, 1782 in Hunterdon Co., NJ, and died August 17, 1861. He married HANNAH LUNGER Abt. 1806, daughter of JACOB LUNGER and JULIANA HULSHIZER. She was born November 06, 1783 in New York. Children of ABRAHAM KLINE and HANNAH LUNGER are: i. HARMON4 KLINE, b. Abt. 1824. ii. EMILY KLINE, b. Abt. 1829. iii. MONTGOMERY KLINE, b. Abt. 1839. 10. THOMAS3 ROBBINS, JR. (THOMAS H.2, WILLIAM1) was born September 12, 1791, and died December 25, 1857 in Fishing Creek Twp., Columbia Co., PA. He married LYDIA W. EDGAR. She was born 1798, and died November 24, 1885 in Fishing Creek Twp., Columbia Co., PA. Child of THOMAS ROBBINS and LYDIA EDGAR is: i. JAMES4 ROBBINS, b. 1827; d. November 06, 1844. 11. DANIEL3 ROBBINS (THOMAS H.2, WILLIAM1) was born 1795, and died 1879 in Fostoria, OH. He married RHODA MCCARTY, daughter of JOHN MCCARTY and SARAH THOMAS. She died Abt. October 1874 in Fostoria, OH. Children of DANIEL ROBBINS and RHODA MCCARTY are: i. ELLINDA4 ROBBINS, m. JOSEPH URIE, Bloomdale, Wood Co., OH. ii. JACKSON ROBBINS, b. 1826; d. 1893; m. MARY BEAM. iii. ELMIRA ROBBINS, m. JONATHAN MYERS. iv. RHODA ROBBINS, m. JOHN BOLAN. v. MARGARET ROBBINS, m. G.W. LOCKE. vi. RUSSELL ROBBINS, d. Iowa. vii. MINERVA ROBBINS, m. PETER BUSSEY. 12. MARY3 ROBBINS (JONATHAN2, WILLIAM1) was born November 16, 1785 in Hunterdon Co., NJ, and died March 30, 1869 in Fort Recovery, Mercer Co., OH. She married JOHN GOLDER Bef. 1816 in Columbia Co., PA, son of ABRAHAM GOLDER and MARY COLEMAN. He was born August 31, 1794 in Somerset Co., NJ, and died September 17, 1876 in Fort Recovery, Mercer Co., OH. Children of MARY ROBBINS and JOHN GOLDER are: i. ELIZABETH4 GOLDER, b. October 02, 1816, Columbia Co., PA. ii. DEBORAH GOLDER, b. September 22, 1817, Columbia Co., PA; d. April 01, 1911, Mercer Co., OH; m. ABLE WILLIAM PEARSON, March 01, 1838, Butler Co., OH; b. Bet. 1790 - 1820. iii. SUSANAH GOLDER, b. April 22, 1819, Columbia Co., PA; d. 1819, Columbia Co., PA. iv. LEVINAH GOLDER, b. April 18, 1820, Columbia Co., PA; d. January 02, 1822, Columbia Co., PA. v. ELEANOR GOLDER, b. June 07, 1821, Columbia Co., PA; d. Bef. 1860, Butler Co., OH; m. STEPHEN BURKE, March 10, 1840, Butler Co., OH; b. Bet. 1790 - 1821. vi. ABRAHAM GOLDER, b. February 18, 1823, Columbia Co., PA. vii. GARRETT GOLDER, b. January 24, 1825, Columbia Co., PA; d. April 19, 1890, Fort Recovery, Mercer Co., OH; m. MARY ANN GOLDER, March 05, 1857, Mercer Co., OH; b. December 29, 1823, Columbia Co., PA; d. August 03, 1897, Mercer Co., OH. viii. ANGELINA GOLDER, b. January 22, 1827, Columbia Co., PA; d. August 24, 1834, Columbia Co., PA. ix. JOHNATHAN GOLDER, b. December 04, 1828, Columbia Co., PA; d. September 01, 1829, Columbia Co., PA. x. JACKSON GOLDER, b. March 29, 1830, Columbia Co., PA; d. July 20, 1916, Mercer Co., OH; m. MATILDA ANN HUME, February 26, 1853, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1820 - 1835. 13. JOSEPH HAGERMAN3 ROBBINS (JONATHAN2, WILLIAM1) was born May 10, 1787 in New Jersey, and died Abt. 1857 in Mercer Co., OH. He married ELIZABETH ?. She was born Abt. 1783 in Pennsylvania, and died Bef. 1857. Children of JOSEPH ROBBINS and ELIZABETH ? are: i. WILLIAM4 ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1822, Pennsylvania; d. Aft. 1858; m. LUCILLE GEORGE, April 07, 1846, Drake Co., OH; b. Abt. 1822, France; d. Aft. 1858. ii. CHRISTIANNA ROBBINS, b. April 28, 1824, Pennsylvania; d. January 11, 1888, Mercer Co., OH; m. JOHN L. FOX, September 29, 1841, Mercer Co., OH; b. July 01, 1821, Preble Col., OH; d. June 04, 1906, Mercer Co., OH. iii. ELIZABETH ROBBINS, b. 1825; m. JAMES GRAY; b. Abt. 1825. iv. JOSEPH HAGERMAN ROBBINS II, b. January 01, 1828, Columbia Co., PA; d. November 07, 1873, Wendlin, Mercer Co., OH; m. MATILDA SHANER, February 10, 1848; b. November 24, 1830, Maryland; d. March 08, 1865, Ohio. v. ISRAEL ROBBINS, b. October 05, 1830. 14. CATHERINE3 ROBBINS (JONATHAN2, WILLIAM1) was born November 10, 1794 in New Jersey, and died November 17, 1868. She married MOSES YOCUM 1825 in Greenwood Twp, Columbia Co., PA. He was born September 18, 1803 in Amity Twp., Berks Co., Pennsylvania, and died April 17, 1879 in Pennsylvania. Child of CATHERINE ROBBINS and MOSES YOCUM is: i. ELIZABETH TAMER4 YOCUM, b. July 05, 1826, Benton, Columbia Co., PA; d. July 02, 1900, Jackson Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. JACOB WELLIVER; b. Abt. 1813, Virginia; d. April 20, 1900, Jackson Twp., Columbia Co., PA. 15. ELIZABETH3 ROBBINS (JONATHAN2, WILLIAM1) was born March 24, 1797 in Sugar Loaf Twp, Columbia Co., PA, and died August 21, 1862 in Mercer Co., OH. She married ABRAHAM GOLDER II Bef. 1823, son of ABRAHAM GOLDER and MARY COLEMAN. He was born February 13, 1799 in Somerset Co., NJ, and died October 06, 1868 in Mercer Co., OH. Children of ELIZABETH ROBBINS and ABRAHAM GOLDER are: i. MARY ANN4 GOLDER, b. December 29, 1823, Columbia Co., PA; d. August 03, 1897, Mercer Co., OH; m. GARRETT GOLDER, March 05, 1857, Mercer Co., OH; b. January 24, 1825, Columbia Co., PA; d. April 19, 1890, Fort Recovery, Mercer Co., OH. ii. JACOB GOLDER, b. July 11, 1826, Columbia Co., PA; d. Noble Co., IN; m. LYDIA BENNETT, June 20, 1854, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1810 - 1840. iii. HANNAH GOLDER, b. September 17, 1829, Columbia Co., PA; d. November 02, 1906, Darke Co., OH; m. JOHN ADAM CORDIER, December 11, 1850, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1800 - 1830. iv. FORSNER GOLDER, b. January 28, 1832, Columbia Co., PA; d. February 26, 1916, Mercer Co., OH; m. JOHN J. BEAM, March 10, 1872, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1815 - 1855. v. ELIAS GOLDER, b. October 29, 1834, Columbia Co., PA; d. January 14, 1899, Fort Recovery, Mercer Co., OH; m. LUCINDA E. HUMES, December 05, 1856, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1820 - 1840. vi. ELLEN GOLDER, b. August 04, 1836, Columbia Co., PA; d. February 12, 1916, Mercer Co., OH; m. JOHN W. BARKER, January 27, 1867, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1800 - 1850. vii. ENOCH GOLDER, b. December 04, 1839, Butler Co., OH; d. December 24, 1925, Ligonier, Nobel Co., IN; m. LUCINDA WAGGONER, March 06, 1864, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1820 - 1848. viii. MARTHA E. GOLDER, b. June 15, 1844, Darke Co., OH; d. June 16, 1886, Mercer Co., OH; m. FRANKLIN WAGGONER, December 15, 1870, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1820 - 1850. ix. LYDIA S. GOLDER, b. October 01, 1859, Mercer Co., OH. 16. WILLIAM J.3 ROBBINS (JONATHAN2, WILLIAM1) was born September 19, 1799 in Pennsylvania, and died March 03, 1876 in Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA. He married SUSANAH KEELER August 10, 1826 in Greenwood Twp, Columbia Co., PA, daughter of JOHN KEELER and ELIZABETH SMITH. She was born September 28, 1804 in Benton Boro(?), Columbia Co., PA, and died January 10, 1888 in Nordmont, Davidson Twp, Sullivan Co., PA. Children of WILLIAM ROBBINS and SUSANAH KEELER are: i. HENDERSON4 ROBBINS, b. May 31, 1827, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; d. October 14, 1907; m. (1) SUSANNAH WEBSTER, September 16, 1852; b. October 07, 1834, Pennsylvania; d. October 24, 1884; m. (2) KATTIE L. ?, Abt. 1894; b. November 1846, New York. ii. THOMAS A. ROBBINS, b. July 23, 1828, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; d. Aft. June 16, 1870; m. ADELIA EDKIN, September 08, 1856; b. November 07, 1832; d. April 07, 1906. iii. LEONARD ROBBINS, b. May 12, 1831, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; d. September 07, 1859, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; m. SAMANTHA CONVERSE, November 22, 1856, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; b. April 01, 1839, Sullivan Co., PA; d. March 01, 1905, Dunlap, Harrison Co., IA. iv. JOSEPH C. ROBBINS, b. March 19, 1834, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; d. January 13, 1898, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; m. MARY W. HENLEY, February 15, 1859; b. November 1833, Cherry Twp, Sullivan Co., PA; d. February 03, 1924, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA. v. MARY EVELINE ROBBINS, b. November 24, 1838, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; d. December 07, 1907, Huntersville, Lycoming Co., PA; m. FREEMAN P. HORN, March 30, 1867; b. September 22, 1840, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; d. May 22, 1873, Waller, Columbia Co., PA. 17. ANN3 ROBBINS (JONATHAN2, WILLIAM1) was born March 25, 1805. She married JOHN P. HESS. He was born October 08, 1807 in Columbia Co., PA. Children of ANN ROBBINS and JOHN HESS are: i. ELIZABETH4 HESS. ii. JOHNATHAN HESS. iii. MARY HESS. iv. HANNAH HESS, b. February 10, 1848, Polkville, Jackson Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. CHARLES HENRY CARRATHERS; b. April 16, 1846. 18. ELISHA3 ROBBINS (DANIEL2, WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1809 in Pennsylvania. He married REBECCA ?. She was born Abt. 1811 in Pennsylvania. Children of ELISHA ROBBINS and REBECCA ? are: i. DELILA4 ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1837. ii. ELIZABETH ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1839. iii. EMILY ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1844. iv. WILLIAM P. ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1849. > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:26 am ((PDT)) > > Hi Marshall, > > I???ve collected some information on the children of William who moved to Columbia County, PA. > > I don???t recall any descendants making a post. > > Garry -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2226 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-07-10 12:16:30 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS Jr Message: Hi Marshall, Some of the information was new to me. Itā€™s interesting that the information says that daughter, Diana, was born 1757 in Greenwich Twp, Sussex (Warren) County, NJ. Information I have, says that son Thomas was born in 1760 in Sussex County. In an earlier discussion, I think we agreed the England information is not correct, William is a descendant of the first Daniel Robins. I believe the information on son John to be incorrect. Thanks, Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 12:29 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS Jr I seem to recall the original posting (in 2006) being to the Robins yahoo list, but it looks like the message archives don't go back further than 2010. Here's the original posting in it's entirety ... Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 17:22:27 -0000 From: "jrobns" Subject: William Robbins 1724 to 1811 Below are just the bare bone names and dates. For souce information along with additional census data I will attempt to upload a zip file to the files section. Enjoy James P. Robbins ---------------------------- Descendants of William Robbins Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM1 ROBBINS was born February 24, 1724/25, and died May 10, 1811 in Bethelehem, Hunterdon Co., NJ. He married MARY ? October 06, 1745 (in Chedworth, Gloucester, England??). She was born August 28, 1731, and died June 1778. Children of WILLIAM ROBBINS and MARY ? are: i. ELIZABETH2 ROBBINS, b. July 05, 1752, ; d. Lowden Co., VA; m. ? EVELAND; b. Abt. 1752. 2. ii. CHARITY ROBBINS, b. December 25, 1753, New Jersey; d. November 09, 1831, Madison Twsp, Columbia Co, PA. iii. MARY ROBBINS, b. October 25, 1755, ; d. Colrain Twsp, Belmont Co, OH; m. ROBERT WILSON; b. Abt. 1751, . 3. iv. REBECCA ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1756, . 4. v. DIANA ROBBINS, b. September 10, 1757, Greenwich Twp, Sussex Co., NJ; d. Aft. 1833, Columbia Co., PA. 5. vi. THOMAS H. ROBBINS, b. November 03, 1760, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. November 06, 1838, Pennsylvania. 6. vii. JONATHAN ROBBINS, b. March 26, 1762, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. January 15, 1818, Columbia Co., PA. 7. viii. JOHN ROBBINS, b. 1766, Bethlehem, Hunterdon Co, NJ; d. Abt. 1850, Columbia Co., PA. ix. WILLIAM ROBBINS, b. August 12, 1767; d. October 16, 1788. 8. x. DANIEL ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1771, New Jersey; d. 1856. Generation No. 2 2. CHARITY2 ROBBINS (WILLIAM1) was born December 25, 1753 in New Jersey, and died November 09, 1831 in Madison Twsp, Columbia Co, PA. She married DANIEL WELLIVER Abt. 1770. He was born 1747 in Hunterdon Co., NJ, and died July 08, 1825 in Madison twp, Columbia Co., PA. Children of CHARITY ROBBINS and DANIEL WELLIVER are: i. ABIGAIL3 WELLIVER, b. Abt. 1773, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. ? BODINE, Abt. 1800, Columbia Co., PA; b. Abt. 1770. ii. WILLIAM WELLIVER, b. January 16, 1774, New Jersey; d. September 30, 1842, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. ELIZABETH IKELER; b. Abt. 1780; d. Aft. September 30, 1842, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA. iii. OBADIAH WELLIVER, b. September 13, 1777, Near Sunbury, Northumberland Co., PA; d. September 15, 1839, Reiley, Butler Co., OH; m. HANNAH JOHNSTON, 1796, New Jersey; b. October 03, 1780, New Jersey; d. July 09, 1869, Reiley, Butler Co., OH. iv. JOHN WELLIVER, b. December 31, 1778, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; d. November 18, 1831, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. BARBARA ?; b. Abt. 1790, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; d. Abt. 1864, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA. v. REBECKA WELLIVER, b. Abt. 1779, New Jersey; m. ? JOHNSON. vi. MARY WELLIVER, b. November 20, 1782, Millville, Columbia Co., PA; d. June 20, 1855, Columbia Co., PA; m. FRANCIS ROTE, 1801, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; b. May 05, 1775, Germany; d. August 05, 1822, Columbia Co., PA. vii. ELIZABETH WELLIVER, b. 1783, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; d. Bef. 1823; m. ? BROWN. viii. JEMIMA WELLIVER, b. 1786, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. ? EVES. ix. SARAH WELLIVER, b. Bet. 1787 - 1788, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. ? WHITE. x. CHARITY WELLIVER, b. Abt. 1790, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA. xi. DANIEL WELLIVER, b. August 15, 1798, Pennsylvania; d. December 22, 1878, ?Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. SARAH EYER; b. September 11, 1801, Pennsylvania; d. January 11, 1855, Jerseytown, Madison Twp., Columbia Co., PA. 3. REBECCA2 ROBBINS (WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1756 in . She married VALENTINE CHRISTIAN Bet. 1776 - 1789. He was born 1756 in Hunterdon Co., NJ, and died Aft. 1832 in Columbia Co., PA. Children of REBECCA ROBBINS and VALENTINE CHRISTIAN are: i. MARY3 CHRISTIAN, b. Bet. 1785 - 1800. ii. VALENTINE CHRISTIAN, JR., b. April 05, 1790; d. November 06, 1860. iii. JOHN CHRISTIAN, b. October 03, 1794; d. May 06, 1849, Jackson Twp., Columbia Co., PA. 4. DIANA2 ROBBINS (WILLIAM1) was born September 10, 1757 in Greenwich Twp, Sussex Co., NJ, and died Aft. 1833 in Columbia Co., PA. She married HARMON KLINE 1778 in New Jersey, son of ABRAHAM KLINE and CHARITY KRAMER. He was born June 20, 1760 in Hunterdon Co., NJ, and died January 14, 1832 in Mt. Pleasant Twp, Columbia Co., PA. Children of DIANA ROBBINS and HARMON KLINE are: i. HARMON3 KLINE, b. April 17, 1779, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. March 20, 1851, Mt. Pleasant Twp, Columbia Co., PA. 9. ii. ABRAHAM KLINE, b. January 18, 1782, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. August 17, 1861. iii. THOMAS KLINE, b. 1781, Hunterdon Co., NJ; m. REBECCA ?. iv. WILLIAM KLINE, b. December 29, 1784, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. April 07, 1868; m. ELIZABETH DIETRICH. v. MORRIS KLINE, b. September 11, 1785, Hunterdon Co., NJ; m. ELIZABETH LEE. vi. MARY KLINE, b. June 05, 1787, Hunterdon Co., NJ; m. JOSEPH LEMON. vii. HANNAH KLINE, b. February 28, 1791, Columbia Co., PA; m. WILLIAM EMERY. viii. CATHERINE KLINE, b. June 01, 1792, Columbia Co., PA; d. March 23, 1826, Columbia Co., PA; m. JONATHAN LEMON. ix. REBECCA KLINE, b. June 09, 1794, Columbia Co., PA; m. JACOB JOHNSON. x. ELIZABETH KLINE, b. March 03, 1796, Columbia Co., PA; d. April 17, 1891, Hornellsville, Steuben Co., NY. xi. SARAH KLINE, b. July 30, 1798, Columbia Co., PA; d. February 20, 1876; m. ISAAC WELCH. xii. ISAAC KLINE, b. June 18, 1800, Columbia Co., PA; d. June 25, 1876; m. SOPHIA KRAMER; b. Abt. 1793, New Jersey. xiii. JACOB KLINE, b. June 26, 1802, Columbia Co., PA; m. REBECCA WELCH. xiv. JOHN KLINE, b. January 06, 1807, Hunterdon Co., NJ?. 5. THOMAS H.2 ROBBINS (WILLIAM1) was born November 03, 1760 in Hunterdon Co., NJ, and died November 06, 1838 in Pennsylvania. He married ELIZABETH KLINE 1781 in New Jersey, daughter of ABRAHAM KLINE and CHARITY KRAMER. She was born December 15, 1761 in Orangeville, Columbia Co., PA, and died November 23, 1831. Children of THOMAS ROBBINS and ELIZABETH KLINE are: i. CHARITY3 ROBBINS, b. May 05, 1782, New Jersey; m. JOHN KARNS. ii. MERCY ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1785, Wyoming Twp., Northumberland Co., PA; d. Abt. 1852. iii. WILLIAM ROBBINS, b. February 19, 1786, Wyoming Twp., Northumberland Co., PA; d. January 18, 1867, Fishing Creek Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. (1) ELIZA ?; b. April 03, 1783; d. February 12, 1858; m. (2) CATHERINE WILLET, Abt. 1820; b. 1787; d. 1825. iv. ABRAHAM ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1789, Pennsylvania; d. Abt. 1875, Fishing Creek Twp., Columbia Co., PA. 10. v. THOMAS ROBBINS, JR., b. September 12, 1791; d. December 25, 1857, Fishing Creek Twp., Columbia Co., PA. vi. MATTHIAS ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1793; m. SARAH ?. vii. JOHN ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1794; m. MARY ?. 11. viii. DANIEL ROBBINS, b. 1795; d. 1879, Fostoria, OH. ix. ISAAC ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1800 - 1804; m. ELIZABETH ?. 6. JONATHAN2 ROBBINS (WILLIAM1) was born March 26, 1762 in Hunterdon Co., NJ, and died January 15, 1818 in Columbia Co., PA. He married TAMER HAGAMAN Aft. 1782, daughter of JOSEPH HAGAMAN and NELLY ?. She was born November 13, 1759 in New Jersey, and died Aft. 1840. Children of JONATHAN ROBBINS and TAMER HAGAMAN are: 12. i. MARY3 ROBBINS, b. November 16, 1785, Hunterdon Co., NJ; d. March 30, 1869, Fort Recovery, Mercer Co., OH. 13. ii. JOSEPH HAGERMAN ROBBINS, b. May 10, 1787, New Jersey; d. Abt. 1857, Mercer Co., OH. iii. LYDIAH ROBBINS, b. December 16, 1788; d. Bef. 1800. iv. ELEANOR ROBBINS, b. October 25, 1790. v. CHARITY ROBBINS, b. October 03, 1792. 14. vi. CATHERINE ROBBINS, b. November 10, 1794, New Jersey; d. November 17, 1868. 15. vii. ELIZABETH ROBBINS, b. March 24, 1797, Sugar Loaf Twp, Columbia Co., PA; d. August 21, 1862, Mercer Co., OH. 16. viii. WILLIAM J. ROBBINS, b. September 19, 1799, Pennsylvania; d. March 03, 1876, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA. ix. THOMAS ROBBINS, b. July 01, 1802. 17. x. ANN ROBBINS, b. March 25, 1805. 7. JOHN2 ROBBINS (WILLIAM1) was born 1766 in Bethlehem, Hunterdon Co, NJ, and died Abt. 1850 in Columbia Co., PA. He married MARY WOODARD. She was born Aft. 1745, and died Abt. 1850 in Columbia Co., PA. Children of JOHN ROBBINS and MARY WOODARD are: i. ?3 ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1790 - 1800. ii. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1799 - 1810. iii. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1800 - 1810. iv. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1800 - 1810. v. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1801 - 1810. vi. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1802 - 1810. vii. LYDIA A. ROBBINS, b. December 06, 1813, Iola, Greenwood Twp., Columbia Co., PA; d. December 07, 1851, Greenwood Twp., Columbia Co., PA. 8. DANIEL2 ROBBINS (WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1771 in New Jersey, and died 1856. He married CATHERINE LUNGER Abt. 1795 in Greenwich Twp., Sussex Co., NJ, daughter of JACOB LUNGER and JULIANA HULSHIZER. She was born October 26, 1774 in Greenwich Twp., Sussex Co., NJ, and died Bet. 1841 - 1850. Children of DANIEL ROBBINS and CATHERINE LUNGER are: i. ?3 ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1790 - 1800. ii. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1791 - 1800. 18. iii. ELISHA ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1809, Pennsylvania. iv. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1800 - 1810. v. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1800 - 1804. vi. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1801 - 1810. vii. ? ROBBINS, b. Bet. 1804 - 1810. Generation No. 3 9. ABRAHAM3 KLINE (DIANA2 ROBBINS, WILLIAM1) was born January 18, 1782 in Hunterdon Co., NJ, and died August 17, 1861. He married HANNAH LUNGER Abt. 1806, daughter of JACOB LUNGER and JULIANA HULSHIZER. She was born November 06, 1783 in New York. Children of ABRAHAM KLINE and HANNAH LUNGER are: i. HARMON4 KLINE, b. Abt. 1824. ii. EMILY KLINE, b. Abt. 1829. iii. MONTGOMERY KLINE, b. Abt. 1839. 10. THOMAS3 ROBBINS, JR. (THOMAS H.2, WILLIAM1) was born September 12, 1791, and died December 25, 1857 in Fishing Creek Twp., Columbia Co., PA. He married LYDIA W. EDGAR. She was born 1798, and died November 24, 1885 in Fishing Creek Twp., Columbia Co., PA. Child of THOMAS ROBBINS and LYDIA EDGAR is: i. JAMES4 ROBBINS, b. 1827; d. November 06, 1844. 11. DANIEL3 ROBBINS (THOMAS H.2, WILLIAM1) was born 1795, and died 1879 in Fostoria, OH. He married RHODA MCCARTY, daughter of JOHN MCCARTY and SARAH THOMAS. She died Abt. October 1874 in Fostoria, OH. Children of DANIEL ROBBINS and RHODA MCCARTY are: i. ELLINDA4 ROBBINS, m. JOSEPH URIE, Bloomdale, Wood Co., OH. ii. JACKSON ROBBINS, b. 1826; d. 1893; m. MARY BEAM. iii. ELMIRA ROBBINS, m. JONATHAN MYERS. iv. RHODA ROBBINS, m. JOHN BOLAN. v. MARGARET ROBBINS, m. G.W. LOCKE. vi. RUSSELL ROBBINS, d. Iowa. vii. MINERVA ROBBINS, m. PETER BUSSEY. 12. MARY3 ROBBINS (JONATHAN2, WILLIAM1) was born November 16, 1785 in Hunterdon Co., NJ, and died March 30, 1869 in Fort Recovery, Mercer Co., OH. She married JOHN GOLDER Bef. 1816 in Columbia Co., PA, son of ABRAHAM GOLDER and MARY COLEMAN. He was born August 31, 1794 in Somerset Co., NJ, and died September 17, 1876 in Fort Recovery, Mercer Co., OH. Children of MARY ROBBINS and JOHN GOLDER are: i. ELIZABETH4 GOLDER, b. October 02, 1816, Columbia Co., PA. ii. DEBORAH GOLDER, b. September 22, 1817, Columbia Co., PA; d. April 01, 1911, Mercer Co., OH; m. ABLE WILLIAM PEARSON, March 01, 1838, Butler Co., OH; b. Bet. 1790 - 1820. iii. SUSANAH GOLDER, b. April 22, 1819, Columbia Co., PA; d. 1819, Columbia Co., PA. iv. LEVINAH GOLDER, b. April 18, 1820, Columbia Co., PA; d. January 02, 1822, Columbia Co., PA. v. ELEANOR GOLDER, b. June 07, 1821, Columbia Co., PA; d. Bef. 1860, Butler Co., OH; m. STEPHEN BURKE, March 10, 1840, Butler Co., OH; b. Bet. 1790 - 1821. vi. ABRAHAM GOLDER, b. February 18, 1823, Columbia Co., PA. vii. GARRETT GOLDER, b. January 24, 1825, Columbia Co., PA; d. April 19, 1890, Fort Recovery, Mercer Co., OH; m. MARY ANN GOLDER, March 05, 1857, Mercer Co., OH; b. December 29, 1823, Columbia Co., PA; d. August 03, 1897, Mercer Co., OH. viii. ANGELINA GOLDER, b. January 22, 1827, Columbia Co., PA; d. August 24, 1834, Columbia Co., PA. ix. JOHNATHAN GOLDER, b. December 04, 1828, Columbia Co., PA; d. September 01, 1829, Columbia Co., PA. x. JACKSON GOLDER, b. March 29, 1830, Columbia Co., PA; d. July 20, 1916, Mercer Co., OH; m. MATILDA ANN HUME, February 26, 1853, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1820 - 1835. 13. JOSEPH HAGERMAN3 ROBBINS (JONATHAN2, WILLIAM1) was born May 10, 1787 in New Jersey, and died Abt. 1857 in Mercer Co., OH. He married ELIZABETH ?. She was born Abt. 1783 in Pennsylvania, and died Bef. 1857. Children of JOSEPH ROBBINS and ELIZABETH ? are: i. WILLIAM4 ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1822, Pennsylvania; d. Aft. 1858; m. LUCILLE GEORGE, April 07, 1846, Drake Co., OH; b. Abt. 1822, France; d. Aft. 1858. ii. CHRISTIANNA ROBBINS, b. April 28, 1824, Pennsylvania; d. January 11, 1888, Mercer Co., OH; m. JOHN L. FOX, September 29, 1841, Mercer Co., OH; b. July 01, 1821, Preble Col., OH; d. June 04, 1906, Mercer Co., OH. iii. ELIZABETH ROBBINS, b. 1825; m. JAMES GRAY; b. Abt. 1825. iv. JOSEPH HAGERMAN ROBBINS II, b. January 01, 1828, Columbia Co., PA; d. November 07, 1873, Wendlin, Mercer Co., OH; m. MATILDA SHANER, February 10, 1848; b. November 24, 1830, Maryland; d. March 08, 1865, Ohio. v. ISRAEL ROBBINS, b. October 05, 1830. 14. CATHERINE3 ROBBINS (JONATHAN2, WILLIAM1) was born November 10, 1794 in New Jersey, and died November 17, 1868. She married MOSES YOCUM 1825 in Greenwood Twp, Columbia Co., PA. He was born September 18, 1803 in Amity Twp., Berks Co., Pennsylvania, and died April 17, 1879 in Pennsylvania. Child of CATHERINE ROBBINS and MOSES YOCUM is: i. ELIZABETH TAMER4 YOCUM, b. July 05, 1826, Benton, Columbia Co., PA; d. July 02, 1900, Jackson Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. JACOB WELLIVER; b. Abt. 1813, Virginia; d. April 20, 1900, Jackson Twp., Columbia Co., PA. 15. ELIZABETH3 ROBBINS (JONATHAN2, WILLIAM1) was born March 24, 1797 in Sugar Loaf Twp, Columbia Co., PA, and died August 21, 1862 in Mercer Co., OH. She married ABRAHAM GOLDER II Bef. 1823, son of ABRAHAM GOLDER and MARY COLEMAN. He was born February 13, 1799 in Somerset Co., NJ, and died October 06, 1868 in Mercer Co., OH. Children of ELIZABETH ROBBINS and ABRAHAM GOLDER are: i. MARY ANN4 GOLDER, b. December 29, 1823, Columbia Co., PA; d. August 03, 1897, Mercer Co., OH; m. GARRETT GOLDER, March 05, 1857, Mercer Co., OH; b. January 24, 1825, Columbia Co., PA; d. April 19, 1890, Fort Recovery, Mercer Co., OH. ii. JACOB GOLDER, b. July 11, 1826, Columbia Co., PA; d. Noble Co., IN; m. LYDIA BENNETT, June 20, 1854, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1810 - 1840. iii. HANNAH GOLDER, b. September 17, 1829, Columbia Co., PA; d. November 02, 1906, Darke Co., OH; m. JOHN ADAM CORDIER, December 11, 1850, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1800 - 1830. iv. FORSNER GOLDER, b. January 28, 1832, Columbia Co., PA; d. February 26, 1916, Mercer Co., OH; m. JOHN J. BEAM, March 10, 1872, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1815 - 1855. v. ELIAS GOLDER, b. October 29, 1834, Columbia Co., PA; d. January 14, 1899, Fort Recovery, Mercer Co., OH; m. LUCINDA E. HUMES, December 05, 1856, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1820 - 1840. vi. ELLEN GOLDER, b. August 04, 1836, Columbia Co., PA; d. February 12, 1916, Mercer Co., OH; m. JOHN W. BARKER, January 27, 1867, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1800 - 1850. vii. ENOCH GOLDER, b. December 04, 1839, Butler Co., OH; d. December 24, 1925, Ligonier, Nobel Co., IN; m. LUCINDA WAGGONER, March 06, 1864, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1820 - 1848. viii. MARTHA E. GOLDER, b. June 15, 1844, Darke Co., OH; d. June 16, 1886, Mercer Co., OH; m. FRANKLIN WAGGONER, December 15, 1870, Mercer Co., OH; b. Bet. 1820 - 1850. ix. LYDIA S. GOLDER, b. October 01, 1859, Mercer Co., OH. 16. WILLIAM J.3 ROBBINS (JONATHAN2, WILLIAM1) was born September 19, 1799 in Pennsylvania, and died March 03, 1876 in Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA. He married SUSANAH KEELER August 10, 1826 in Greenwood Twp, Columbia Co., PA, daughter of JOHN KEELER and ELIZABETH SMITH. She was born September 28, 1804 in Benton Boro(?), Columbia Co., PA, and died January 10, 1888 in Nordmont, Davidson Twp, Sullivan Co., PA. Children of WILLIAM ROBBINS and SUSANAH KEELER are: i. HENDERSON4 ROBBINS, b. May 31, 1827, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; d. October 14, 1907; m. (1) SUSANNAH WEBSTER, September 16, 1852; b. October 07, 1834, Pennsylvania; d. October 24, 1884; m. (2) KATTIE L. ?, Abt. 1894; b. November 1846, New York. ii. THOMAS A. ROBBINS, b. July 23, 1828, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; d. Aft. June 16, 1870; m. ADELIA EDKIN, September 08, 1856; b. November 07, 1832; d. April 07, 1906. iii. LEONARD ROBBINS, b. May 12, 1831, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; d. September 07, 1859, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; m. SAMANTHA CONVERSE, November 22, 1856, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; b. April 01, 1839, Sullivan Co., PA; d. March 01, 1905, Dunlap, Harrison Co., IA. iv. JOSEPH C. ROBBINS, b. March 19, 1834, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; d. January 13, 1898, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; m. MARY W. HENLEY, February 15, 1859; b. November 1833, Cherry Twp, Sullivan Co., PA; d. February 03, 1924, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA. v. MARY EVELINE ROBBINS, b. November 24, 1838, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; d. December 07, 1907, Huntersville, Lycoming Co., PA; m. FREEMAN P. HORN, March 30, 1867; b. September 22, 1840, Nordmont, Sullivan Co., PA; d. May 22, 1873, Waller, Columbia Co., PA. 17. ANN3 ROBBINS (JONATHAN2, WILLIAM1) was born March 25, 1805. She married JOHN P. HESS. He was born October 08, 1807 in Columbia Co., PA. Children of ANN ROBBINS and JOHN HESS are: i. ELIZABETH4 HESS. ii. JOHNATHAN HESS. iii. MARY HESS. iv. HANNAH HESS, b. February 10, 1848, Polkville, Jackson Twp., Columbia Co., PA; m. CHARLES HENRY CARRATHERS; b. April 16, 1846. 18. ELISHA3 ROBBINS (DANIEL2, WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1809 in Pennsylvania. He married REBECCA ?. She was born Abt. 1811 in Pennsylvania. Children of ELISHA ROBBINS and REBECCA ? are: i. DELILA4 ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1837. ii. ELIZABETH ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1839. iii. EMILY ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1844. iv. WILLIAM P. ROBBINS, b. Abt. 1849. > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:26 am ((PDT)) > > Hi Marshall, > > I???ve collected some information on the children of William who moved to Columbia County, PA. > > I don???t recall any descendants making a post. > > Garry -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2227 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-07-11 06:49:58 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS Jr Message: I do recall a discussion here concerning William ROBINS (1724-1811) but I don't recall his parentage being proven. Was it? I don't know if James Robbins is a member of this list, but his email is still active and James is still actively researching. > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:16 pm ((PDT)) > > Some of the information was new to me. Itā€™s interesting that the information says that daughter, Diana, was born 1757 in Greenwich Twp, Sussex (Warren) County, NJ. Information I have, says that son Thomas was born i n 1760 in Sussex County. > > In an earlier discussion, I think we agreed the England information is not correct, William is a descendant of the first Daniel Robins. > > I believe the information on son John to be incorrect. > > Thanks, > Garry -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2228 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-07-11 08:58:22 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS Jr Message: Hi Marshall, I donā€™t recall the parentage of William being proven either. I assume that the birth date is from an English record for a William Robbins. Speculation is that William was the son of Jonathan and his wife was Mary Hunt, daughter of Thomas. Their first son was Thomas born 1760. Their second son was Jonathan born 1762. Iā€™ve sent an email to James. Thanks, Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 9:49 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS Jr I do recall a discussion here concerning William ROBINS (1724-1811) but I don't recall his parentage being proven. Was it? I don't know if James Robbins is a member of this list, but his email is still active and James is still actively researching. > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:16 pm ((PDT)) > > Some of the information was new to me. Itā€™s interesting that the information says that daughter, Diana, was born 1757 in Greenwich Twp, Sussex (Warren) County, NJ. Information I have, says that son Thomas was born in 1760 in Sussex County. > > In an earlier discussion, I think we agreed the England information is not correct, William is a descendant of the first Daniel Robins. > > I believe the information on son John to be incorrect. > > Thanks, > Garry -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2229 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-07-11 12:00:21 Subject:William ROBINS (d 1811) Message: Jim Robbins passed on the following link to me (publicly viewable) ... https://www.facebook.com/notes/robbins-moore-family-history/the-robbins-family/871878486278924/ -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2230 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-07-22 10:08:33 Subject:Ezekiel ROBINS Message: I know who Mary ROBINS is below. Does anyone know who Ezekiel ROBINS is named below? From "Historical and Genealogical Miscellany Early Settlers of New Jersey and their Descendants" John E. Stillwell, M.D. Vol. IV 1916 BENJAMIN MORRIS, son of Richard Morris, 32, married, first, Mary Robins, by license dated Dec. 2, 1763; second, Hannah ... 1764, June 27. Had recorded the earmark which was "formerly his Fathers." 1810, Apr. 20. Will of Benjamin Morris, of Freehold; proved Jan. 29, 1812, mentioned: Wife, Hannah Son, Ezekiel Morris Daughter, Nancy Robins, wife of Ezekiel. Grandson, Benjamin Morris, son of Samuel, not yet twenty-one years of age. Son, Calebe Morris Son, Elisha Morris Daughter, Molley Daughter, "debory" Executors: Son, Ezekiel Morris, and Joseph Robins. The testator signed the will. Issue 148 Ezekiel Morris 149 Ann Morris; married Ezekiel Robbins. 150 Samuel Morris 151 Caleb Morris 152 Elisha Morris 153 Mary Morris 154 Deborah Morris 155 Sarah Morris -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2231 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-07-22 11:09:29 Subject:Esek ROBINS Message: I can identify the Moses ROBINS named below, but not the Esek ROBINS (maybe Isaac, maybe Ezekiel). Does anyone know who Esek ROBINS below is? From "Historical and Genealogical Miscellany Early Settlers of New Jersey and their Descendants" John E. Stillwell, M.D. Vol. IV 1916 REBECCA SEABROOK, daughter of James Seabrook, 3, married, between 1725- 1740, Isaac Fitz-Randolph, who was born 1701. Upon the death of Rebecca Seabrook, her husband, Isaac Fitz-Randolph married, second, Hannah Lee. Issue by first wife 25 James Fitz-Randolph; married Deliverance Coward. They were the parents of Hannah Fitz-Randolph, who married William, son of Stoffel and Abigail (Woolley) Longstreet. William and Hannah (Fitz-Randolph) Longstreet were the parents of A. B. Longstreet. 26 Daniel Fitz-Randolph; married Margaret Stewart. 27 Benjamin Fitz-Randolph; married Anna Brombich. 28 Stephen Fitz-Randolph 29 Isaac Fitz-Randolph 30 Huldah Fitz-Randolph; married Mr. Combs. 31 Rebecca Fitz-Randolph 32 Rhoda Fitz-Randolph; married Moses Robins. 33 Ruth Fitz-Randolph; married Esek Robins. Issue by second wife 34 Elizabeth Fitz-Randolph Rebecca Seabrook and Isaac Fitz-Randolph were the great-grandparents of the late Judge Longstreet and of Gen. James Longstreet. Edward Mayes, Esq, a distinguished lawyer of Jackson, Miss, who married a grand-daughter of Judge Longstreet, and daughter of the late Justice Lamar, of the U. S. Supreme Court, wrote from Oxford, Miss, in 1890- "I am engaged in preparing a biographical work on a prominent branch of the Longstreet family. "Hon. A. B. Lonsgtreet, author of ' Georgia Scenes,' and one of our most esteemed men, is a great-grandson of Rebecca Seabrook." "The confederate Gen'l James Longstreet 15 descended from the same parties but is one degree further removed." -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2232 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-07-23 16:54:21 Subject:NJ ROBINS Marriages Message: Can anyone identify any of these ROBINS ? ... NEW JERSEY MARRIAGES transcribed by Patricia M. Bergener (brgnr@...) #008; Aaron ROBINS (ROBENS, his mark) and Joseph WEST, both of the County of Monmouth... [bound to]... Lewis MORRIS, Governour... 500 pounds... 13 Dec 1740. ... Aaron ROBINS... obtained a License of Marriage for himself... and for Mary WORTHLEY of the same county, spinster... [w] Thomas FENTON Jr, Wm MADOCK #019; Timothy ROBINS of Upper Freehold in the County of Monmouth, carpenter, and Joseph NEALE of the City of Burlington, carpenter... [bound to]... Lewis MORRIS, Governor... 500 pounds... 7 March 1745. ... Timothy ROBINS... obtained a License of Marriage for himself... and for Ruth SMITH of the same place... [w] Jos SCATTERGOOD, Luke TUCKNESS #418; Timothy HARBURT & Richard ROBINS, both of Upper Freehold in the County of Monmouth... [bound to]... William FRANKLIN, Govenor... 500 pounds... 18 Aug 1768. ... Timothy HARBURT & Richard ROBINS... obtained license of marriage for the said Timothy HARBURT... and for Rachael ROBINS... [w] Da'd BREARLEY Jr #215; John GROVER and Samuel BROWN, both of Upper Freehold in the County of Monmouth... [bound to]... William FRANKLIN, Governor... 500 pounds... 20 Dec 1773. ... John GROVER... obtained license of marriage for himself and for Elizabeth ROBINS... [w] Jos POTTS, Jon'n SMITH #051; John GISBERTSON Jr and Peter WATSON of Upperfreehold* in the County of Monmouth, yeo'n... [bound to]... Jonathan BELCHER, Governor... 500 pounds... 29 Oct 1750. ... John GISBERTSON Jr... obtained license of marriage for himself and for Margaret ROBINS of the place above said, spinster... [w] Henry VAN HOOK, Joseph ARNEY<< Post Date/Time:2018-08-13 03:09:09 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters married Robins Message: Hi, I attempted to learn more about the two Robbins but had no success. Frederick Mutschler, 17 Mar 1724 ā€“ 31 Aug 1794. Emma, 1768 - Anna, 14 Jun 1776 - Garry From: tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 11:48 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters married Robins Hi, Is anyone familiar with: Anna Mutchler m. John Robins Emma Mutchler m. William Robins ? The father of these women was Frederick Mutchler (or Muchler) who died before 1804, intestate. A deed describing his property and naming his widow and 9 children is at: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSYH-G7PP-C?i=193&cat=220727 I'm curious to know more about the Robbins (Robins) married to these two sisters, especially who their parents were! Tracey ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2235 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-08-13 06:44:01 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters married Message: I *may* have something but am on travel currently. Will respond more fully when I return home ... in a week or two. > Posted by: tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx > Date: Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:13 am ((PDT)) > > Is anyone familiar with: > Anna Mutchler m. John Robins > Emma Mutchler m. William Robins > ? > The father of these women was Frederick Mutchler (or Muchler) who died before 1804, intestate. > A deed describing his property and naming his widow and 9 children is at: > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSYH-G7PP-C?i=193&cat=220727 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSYH-G7PP-C?i=193&cat=220727 > > I'm curious to know more about the Robbins (Robins) married to these two sisters, especially who their parents were! > > > Tracey -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2236 Sender:tracey.marcelo@... Post Date/Time:2018-08-13 06:39:44 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters married Robins Message: Ah. Yes. I see your post from last year. Very interesting. I have a genetic match to a woman who is related to some Mutchlers but her ancestors descend from Frederick's brother Valentine. I have no idea how the woman and I are related. But the connection between some Robbins and some Mutchlers got my attention. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2237 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-08-14 03:01:12 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters married Robins Message: Hi, This genetic matching is interesting. Whatā€™s the DNA test called? How do the test results let you know that youā€™re related to someone else? Do you know how many generations apart you are? Thanks, Garry From: tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:39 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters married Robins Ah. Yes. I see your post from last year. Very interesting. I have a genetic match to a woman who is related to some Mutchlers but her ancestors descend from Frederick's brother Valentine. I have no idea how the woman and I are related. But the connection between some Robbins and some Mutchlers got my attention. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2238 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-08-14 07:06:35 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters married Robins Message: It's Ancestry DNA. The woman shares DNA with my mom and they are estimated to be 4th to 6th cousins. The same woman also shares DNA with a cousin of my mom and we we know how we are related to him. So by triangulating the 3 of them, I get some clues as to how the 3 of them might be related. There's nothing obvious in her tree--but there are clues. Tracey On 8/14/2018 5:01 AM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Hi, This genetic matching is interesting. Whatā€™s the DNA test called? How do the test results let you know that youā€™re related to someone else? Do you know how many generations apart you are? Thanks, Garry From: tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:39 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters married Robins Ah. Yes. I see your post from last year. Very interesting. I have a genetic match to a woman who is related to some Mutchlers but her ancestors descend from Frederick's brother Valentine. I have no idea how the woman and I are related. But the connection between some Robbins and some Mutchlers got my attention. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2239 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-08-15 06:48:34 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Moderator Help Message: Hi Todd, Iā€™ve got someone who has difficulty joining the Robbins group. Thanks, Garry Good morning, Garry, Yes, I would appreciate you looking into my Yahoo group problem. Thank you! I tried to rejoin about a month ago with my ckutz@... email, but was not approved. From: 'todd.d.robbins@...' todd.d.robbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:21 PM To: Robbins Family Society Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Moderator Help Hello all, I'm checking the group settings right now. I'll update you again once I finish checking on what's happening. On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 1:03 PM, 'Sara Hoffman' july37@...t [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Tod, Iā€™m also having problems posting & receiving mail from the group. Can you help us? Thanks, Sara From: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:59 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Moderator Help I receive a daily digest for this group. I haven't received a digest in several days even though new messages were posted several days ago. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net -- Tod Robbins, MLIS todrobbins.com | @todrobbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2240 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-08-18 15:29:25 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters mar Message: What I have is a file containing Garry's post from 11 Jul 2017 followed by (what I assume is) a response from Sara. Sara below refers to a will (Robins book, page 185). However, the referenced will names John ROBINS' spouse as Elizabeth. Maybe a second spouse. Or maybe John's spouse was Anna Elizabeth or Elizabeth Anna. Or maybe Sara was responding to a different query and I erred when putting the postings together. Anyway, Sara's response as I have it ... Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:59 am ((PDT)) Jonathan Robins b. 1748-1796 & brother John Robins 1751-1789 were the sons of Jonathan Robins 1722-1796. John Robins left a Will that names his children & refers to one son Robert 1777-1856 being placed with his Grandfather Robins to learn the weaver trade. The John Robins Will has been transcribed & can be viewed on pg. 185 in the Robins, Robbins book. The parents of grandfather Jonathan Robins b. 1722 & died 1796 in Alexandria Township, Hunterdon Co., NJ. are unknown. He is believed to be a possible grandson of Daniel & Hope. We know through DNA that this family belongs to the Daniel Robins family. The dates given for the death of Jonathan b. 1722 & his son Jonathan, Jr. b. 1748 are both 1796 & are assumed dates. This is due to their inventories being taken on the same day 10-14-1796 & both residing in Alexandria Township. Col. Jonathan Robins 1774-1867 of Greenwich Township was the administrator of his grandfather Jonathan's estate. In 2006, Jonathan Robins 1722-1796 & his sons Jonathan & John were approved by the DAR as a patriot ancestors. This is a line that needs more work & the descendants who did most of the work are no longer active researchers. Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:27 am ((PDT)) Some thoughts regarding Jonathan Sr. 1722-1796 & Jonathan Robins, Jr. 1748-1796. Jonathan Johnson was the administrator of Jonathan Jr's estate. I don't believe we know the relationship between Jonathan Jr. & Jonathan Johnson. Maybe a grandson? John Cooley & Henry Mettler both of Alexandria Township took the inventories of Jonathan Sr. & Jonathan Jr's estate. They were neighbors of Jonathan Sr. & I wonder if they were also related to the Robins family? Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:30 am ((PDT)) The parents of William Robins are unknown at this time. What we know about William Robins comes from his Rev. War pension records. He had 10 children that are named in a Bible record & also in his Rev. War records. > Posted by: tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx > Date: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:12 pm ((PDT)) > > Ah. Yes. I see your post from last year. Very interesting. I have a > genetic match to a woman who is related to some Mutchlers but her > ancestors descend from Frederick's brother Valentine. I have no idea how > the woman and I are related. But the connection between some Robbins and > some Mutchlers got my attention. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2241 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-08-19 08:35:56 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters mar Message: Thanks Marshall. Interesting! I'll have to really study this to try to understand it! Tracey On 8/18/2018 5:29 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: ļæ½ What I have is a file containing Garry's post from 11 Jul 2017 followed by (what I assume is) a response from Sara. Sara below refers to a will (Robins book, page 185). However, the referenced will names John ROBINS' spouse as Elizabeth. Maybe a second spouse. Or maybe John's spouse was Anna Elizabeth or Elizabeth Anna. Or maybe Sara was responding to a different query and I erred when putting the postings together. Anyway, Sara's response as I have it ... Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:59 am ((PDT)) Jonathan Robins b. 1748-1796 & brother John Robins 1751-1789 were the sons of Jonathan Robins 1722-1796. John Robins left a Will that names his children & refers to one son Robert 1777-1856 being placed with his Grandfather Robins to learn the weaver trade. The John Robins Will has been transcribed & can be viewed on pg. 185 in the Robins, Robbins book. The parents of grandfather Jonathan Robins b. 1722 & died 1796 in Alexandria Township, Hunterdon Co., NJ. are unknown. He is believed to be a possible grandson of Daniel & Hope. We know through DNA that this family belongs to the Daniel Robins family. The dates given for the death of Jonathan b. 1722 & his son Jonathan, Jr. b. 1748 are both 1796 & are assumed dates. This is due to their inventories being taken on the same day 10-14-1796 & both residing in Alexandria Township. Col. Jonathan Robins 1774-1867 of Greenwich Township was the administrator of his grandfather Jonathan's estate. In 2006, Jonathan Robins 1722-1796 & his sons Jonathan & John were approved by the DAR as a patriot ancestors. This is a line that needs more work & the descendants who did most of the work are no longer active researchers. Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:27 am ((PDT)) Some thoughts regarding Jonathan Sr. 1722-1796 & Jonathan Robins, Jr. 1748-1796. Jonathan Johnson was the administrator of Jonathan Jr's estate. I don't believe we know the relationship between Jonathan Jr. & Jonathan Johnson. Maybe a grandson? John Cooley & Henry Mettler both of Alexandria Township took the inventories of Jonathan Sr. & Jonathan Jr's estate. They were neighbors of Jonathan Sr. & I wonder if they were also related to the Robins family? Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:30 am ((PDT)) The parents of William Robins are unknown at this time. What we know about William Robins comes from his Rev. War pension records. He had 10 children that are named in a Bible record & also in his Rev. War records. > Posted by: tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx > Date: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:12 pm ((PDT)) > > Ah. Yes. I see your post from last year. Very interesting. I have a > genetic match to a woman who is related to some Mutchlers but her > ancestors descend from Frederick's brother Valentine. I have no idea how > the woman and I are related. But the connection between some Robbins and > some Mutchlers got my attention. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2242 Sender:Suzanne McDonald Post Date/Time:2018-08-19 10:39:37 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters mar Message: Hi, My dad (Christopher L. Robbins) was one of the researchers who was actively researching the Robbins line. Unfortunately, he passed away unexpectedly this past spring. I've taken over his research, though at this point I cannot be the active researcher he was. As an aside, we've both had our DNA done, though just autosomal. I'm trying to convince my brother to do the Y test. In any case, he believe we were descended from Hope Potter and Daniel Robbins, though the connection is not quite clear. He told me that we are descended from Richard Robbins (b abt 1710) and Anna Parsons, thought to b e a son of Joseph Robbins (b. 1670) and Hanna Pack, son of Daniel and Hope. In any case, he was being careful to document everything (where he could). I plan to go back up to his house in a few weeks, and I'll see what he has in his notes/paper files. I have he gedcom, but the sources listed with the Johns and Jonathan he had listed as grandsons of Daniel and Hope (nor are the spouses/issue, so he may not have done anything). Thanks for including me on this list, by the way. Suzanne Robbins McDonald On Sunday, August 19, 2018, 11:36:06 AM EDT, Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Thanks Marshall. Interesting! I'll have to really study this to try to understand it! Tracey On 8/18/2018 5:29 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@mlake.net [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: What I have is a file containing Garry's post from 11 Jul 2017 followed by (what I assume is) a response from Sara. Sara below refers to a will (Robins book, page 185). However, the referenced will names John ROBINS' spouse as Elizabeth. Maybe a second spouse. Or maybe John's spouse was Anna Elizabeth or Elizabeth Anna. Or maybe Sara was responding to a different query and I erred when putting the postings together. Anyway, Sara's response as I have it ... Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:59 am ((PDT)) Jonathan Robins b. 1748-1796 & brother John Robins 1751-1789 were the sons of Jonathan Robins 1722-1796. John Robins left a Will that names his children & refers to one son Robert 1777-1856 being placed with his Grandfather Robins to learn the weaver trade. The John Robins Will has been transcribed & can be viewed on pg. 185 in the Robins, Robbins book. The parents of grandfather Jonathan Robins b. 1722 & died 1796 in Alexandria Township, Hunterdon Co., NJ. are unknown. He is believed to be a possible grandson of Daniel & Hope. We know through DNA that this family belongs to the Daniel Robins family. The dates given for the death of Jonathan b. 1722 & his son Jonathan, Jr. b. 1748 are both 1796 & are assumed dates. This is due to their inventories being taken on the same day 10-14-1796 & both residing in Alexandria Township. Col. Jonathan Robins 1774-1867 of Greenwich Township was the administrator of his grandfather Jonathan's estate. In 2006, Jonathan Robins 1722-1796 & his sons Jonathan & John were approved by the DAR as a patriot ancestors. This is a line that needs more work & the descendants who did most of the work are no longer active researchers. Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:27 am ((PDT)) Some thoughts regarding Jonathan Sr. 1722-1796 & Jonathan Robins, Jr. 1748-1796. Jonathan Johnson was the administrator of Jonathan Jr's estate. I don't believe we know the relationship between Jonathan Jr. & Jonathan Johnson. Maybe a grandson? John Cooley & Henry Mettler both of Alexandria Township took the inventories of Jonathan Sr. & Jonathan Jr's estate. They were neighbors of Jonathan Sr. & I wonder if they were also related to the Robins family? Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:30 am ((PDT)) The parents of William Robins are unknown at this time. What we know about William Robins comes from his Rev. War pension records. He had 10 children that are named in a Bible record & also in his Rev. War records. > Posted by: tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx > Date: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:12 pm ((PDT)) > > Ah. Yes. I see your post from last year. Very interesting. I have a > genetic match to a woman who is related to some Mutchlers but her > ancestors descend from Frederick's brother Valentine. I have no idea how > the woman and I are related. But the connection between some Robbins and > some Mutchlers got my attention. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2243 Sender:Suzanne McDonald Post Date/Time:2018-08-19 10:44:16 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters mar Message: Forgive me on the last post. I was looking at the wrong dates... let me see my dad's files at his home and see what he has. On Sunday, August 19, 2018, 11:36:06 AM EDT, Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@gmail.com [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Thanks Marshall. Interesting! I'll have to really study this to try to understand it! Tracey On 8/18/2018 5:29 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: What I have is a file containing Garry's post from 11 Jul 2017 followed by (what I assume is) a response from Sara. Sara below refers to a will (Robins book, page 185). However, the referenced will names John ROBINS' spouse as Elizabeth. Maybe a second spouse. Or maybe John's spouse was Anna Elizabeth or Elizabeth Anna. Or maybe Sara was responding to a different query and I erred when putting the postings together. Anyway, Sara's response as I have it ... Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:59 am ((PDT)) Jonathan Robins b. 1748-1796 & brother John Robins 1751-1789 were the sons of Jonathan Robins 1722-1796. John Robins left a Will that names his children & refers to one son Robert 1777-1856 being placed with his Grandfather Robins to learn the weaver trade. The John Robins Will has been transcribed & can be viewed on pg. 185 in the Robins, Robbins book. The parents of grandfather Jonathan Robins b. 1722 & died 1796 in Alexandria Township, Hunterdon Co., NJ. are unknown. He is believed to be a possible grandson of Daniel & Hope. We know through DNA that this family belongs to the Daniel Robins family. The dates given for the death of Jonathan b. 1722 & his son Jonathan, Jr. b. 1748 are both 1796 & are assumed dates. This is due to their inventories being taken on the same day 10-14-1796 & both residing in Alexandria Township. Col. Jonathan Robins 1774-1867 of Greenwich Township was the administrator of his grandfather Jonathan's estate. In 2006, Jonathan Robins 1722-1796 & his sons Jonathan & John were approved by the DAR as a patriot ancestors. This is a line that needs more work & the descendants who did most of the work are no longer active researchers. Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:27 am ((PDT)) Some thoughts regarding Jonathan Sr. 1722-1796 & Jonathan Robins, Jr. 1748-1796. Jonathan Johnson was the administrator of Jonathan Jr's estate. I don't believe we know the relationship between Jonathan Jr. & Jonathan Johnson. Maybe a grandson? John Cooley & Henry Mettler both of Alexandria Township took the inventories of Jonathan Sr. & Jonathan Jr's estate. They were neighbors of Jonathan Sr. & I wonder if they were also related to the Robins family? Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:30 am ((PDT)) The parents of William Robins are unknown at this time. What we know about William Robins comes from his Rev. War pension records. He had 10 children that are named in a Bible record & also in his Rev. War records. > Posted by: tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx > Date: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:12 pm ((PDT)) > > Ah. Yes. I see your post from last year. Very interesting. I have a > genetic match to a woman who is related to some Mutchlers but her > ancestors descend from Frederick's brother Valentine. I have no idea how > the woman and I are related. But the connection between some Robbins and > some Mutchlers got my attention. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2244 Sender:cgilleece@... Post Date/Time:2018-08-19 11:03:56 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters mar Message: Suzanne, where did you test? Ancestry? I would love to confer with you because I also spring from Richard >Michael>Jesse Sr>Jesse Jr >Daniel >Martha Jane Robins Painter>Floyd Painter my Dad. cegilleece@... Caroline > On Aug 19, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Suzanne McDonald Suzanne_Robbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > Hi, > > My dad (Christopher L. Robbins) was one of the researchers who was actively researching the Robbins line. Unfortunately, he passed away unexpectedly this past spring. I've taken over his research, though at this poi nt I cannot be the active researcher he was. As an aside, we've both had our DNA done, though just autosomal. I'm trying to convince my brother to do the Y test. > > In any case, he believe we were descended from Hope Potter and Daniel Robbins, though the connection is not quite clear. He told me that we are descended from Richard Robbins (b abt 1710) and Anna Parsons, thought to be a son of Joseph Robbins (b. 1670) and Hanna Pack, son of Daniel and Hope. > > In any case, he was being careful to document everything (where he could). I plan to go back up to his house in a few weeks, and I'll see what he has in his notes/paper files. I have he gedcom, but the sources liste d with the Johns and Jonathan he had listed as grandsons of Daniel and Hope (nor are the spouses/issue, so he may not have done anything). > > Thanks for including me on this list, by the way. > > Suzanne Robbins McDonald > > > > On Sunday, August 19, 2018, 11:36:06 AM EDT, Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > > Thanks Marshall. Interesting! > I'll have to really study this to try to understand it! > > Tracey > >> On 8/18/2018 5:29 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: >> >> >> What I have is a file containing Garry's post from 11 Jul 2017 followed by >> (what I assume is) a response from Sara. Sara below refers to a will >> (Robins book, page 185). However, the referenced will names John ROBINS' >> spouse as Elizabeth. Maybe a second spouse. Or maybe John's spouse was >> Anna Elizabeth or Elizabeth Anna. Or maybe Sara was responding to a >> different query and I erred when putting the postings together. Anyway, >> Sara's response as I have it ... >> >> Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 >> Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:59 am ((PDT)) >> >> Jonathan Robins b. 1748-1796 & brother John Robins 1751-1789 were the sons >> of Jonathan Robins 1722-1796. >> >> John Robins left a Will that names his children & refers to one son Robert >> 1777-1856 being placed with his Grandfather Robins to learn the weaver >> trade. The John Robins Will has been transcribed & can be viewed on pg. >> 185 in the Robins, Robbins book. The parents of grandfather Jonathan >> Robins b. 1722 & died 1796 in Alexandria Township, Hunterdon Co., NJ. are >> unknown. He is believed to be a possible grandson of Daniel & Hope. We >> know through DNA that this family belongs to the Daniel Robins family. The >> dates given for the death of Jonathan b. 1722 & his son Jonathan, Jr. b. >> 1748 are both 1796 & are assumed dates. This is due to their inventories >> being taken on the same day 10-14-1796 & both residing in Alexandria >> Township. Col. Jonathan Robins 1774-1867 of Greenwich Township was the >> administrator of his grandfather Jonathan's estate. In 2006, Jonathan >> Robins 1722-1796 & his sons Jonathan & John were approved by the DAR as a >> patriot ancestors. >> >> This is a line that needs more work & the descendants who did most of the >> work are no longer active researchers. >> >> Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 >> Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:27 am ((PDT)) >> >> Some thoughts regarding Jonathan Sr. 1722-1796 & Jonathan Robins, Jr. >> 1748-1796. Jonathan Johnson was the administrator of Jonathan Jr's estate. >> I don't believe we know the relationship between Jonathan Jr. & Jonathan >> Johnson. Maybe a grandson? John Cooley & Henry Mettler both of Alexandria >> Township took the inventories of Jonathan Sr. & Jonathan Jr's estate. They >> were neighbors of Jonathan Sr. & I wonder if they were also related to the >> Robins family? >> >> Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 >> Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:30 am ((PDT)) >> >> The parents of William Robins are unknown at this time. What we know about >> William Robins comes from his Rev. War pension records. He had 10 children >> that are named in a Bible record & also in his Rev. War records. >> >> > Posted by: tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx >> > Date: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:12 pm ((PDT)) >> > >> > Ah. Yes. I see your post from last year. Very interesting. I have a >> > genetic match to a woman who is related to some Mutchlers but her >> > ancestors descend from Frederick's brother Valentine. I have no idea how >> > the woman and I are related. But the connection between some Robbins and >> > some Mutchlers got my attention. >> >> -- >> Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2245 Sender:Suzanne McDonald Post Date/Time:2018-08-19 11:08:52 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters mar Message: Caroline,My dad did his on Ancestry. I did mine on myFTDNA, and added my dad's file there (though it's marked private, accessible to the Robbins surname project).Suzanne On Sunday, August 19, 2018, 2:04:14 PM EDT, cgilleece@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Suzanne, where did you test? Ancestry? I would love to confer with you because I also spring from Richard >Michael>Jesse Sr>Jesse Jr >Daniel >Martha Jane Robins Painter>Floyd Painter my Dad. cegilleece@... Caroline On Aug 19, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Suzanne McDonald Suzanne_Robbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Hi, My dad (Christopher L. Robbins) was one of the researchers who was actively researching the Robbins line. Unfortunately, he passed away unexpectedly this past spring. I've taken over his research, though at this point I cannot be the active researcher he was. As an aside, we've both had our DNA done, though just autosomal. I'm trying to convince my brother to do the Y test. In any case, he believe we were descended from Hope Potter and Daniel Robbins, though the connection is not quite clear. He told me that we are descended from Richard Robbins (b abt 1710) and Anna Parsons, thought to b e a son of Joseph Robbins (b. 1670) and Hanna Pack, son of Daniel and Hope. In any case, he was being careful to document everything (where he could). I plan to go back up to his house in a few weeks, and I'll see what he has in his notes/paper files. I have he gedcom, but the sources listed with the Johns and Jonathan he had listed as grandsons of Daniel and Hope (nor are the spouses/issue, so he may not have done anything). Thanks for including me on this list, by the way. Suzanne Robbins McDonald On Sunday, August 19, 2018, 11:36:06 AM EDT, Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Thanks Marshall. Interesting! I'll have to really study this to try to understand it! Tracey On 8/18/2018 5:29 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: What I have is a file containing Garry's post from 11 Jul 2017 followed by (what I assume is) a response from Sara. Sara below refers to a will (Robins book, page 185). However, the referenced will names John ROBINS' spouse as Elizabeth. Maybe a second spouse. Or maybe John's spouse was Anna Elizabeth or Elizabeth Anna. Or maybe Sara was responding to a different query and I erred when putting the postings together. Anyway, Sara's response as I have it ... Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:59 am ((PDT)) Jonathan Robins b. 1748-1796 & brother John Robins 1751-1789 were the sons of Jonathan Robins 1722-1796. John Robins left a Will that names his children & refers to one son Robert 1777-1856 being placed with his Grandfather Robins to learn the weaver trade. The John Robins Will has been transcribed & can be viewed on pg. 185 in the Robins, Robbins book. The parents of grandfather Jonathan Robins b. 1722 & died 1796 in Alexandria Township, Hunterdon Co., NJ. are unknown. He is believed to be a possible grandson of Daniel & Hope. We know through DNA that this family belongs to the Daniel Robins family. The dates given for the death of Jonathan b. 1722 & his son Jonathan, Jr. b. 1748 are both 1796 & are assumed dates. This is due to their inventories being taken on the same day 10-14-1796 & both residing in Alexandria Township. Col. Jonathan Robins 1774-1867 of Greenwich Township was the administrator of his grandfather Jonathan's estate. In 2006, Jonathan Robins 1722-1796 & his sons Jonathan & John were approved by the DAR as a patriot ancestors. This is a line that needs more work & the descendants who did most of the work are no longer active researchers. Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:27 am ((PDT)) Some thoughts regarding Jonathan Sr. 1722-1796 & Jonathan Robins, Jr. 1748-1796. Jonathan Johnson was the administrator of Jonathan Jr's estate. I don't believe we know the relationship between Jonathan Jr. & Jonathan Johnson. Maybe a grandson? John Cooley & Henry Mettler both of Alexandria Township took the inventories of Jonathan Sr. & Jonathan Jr's estate. They were neighbors of Jonathan Sr. & I wonder if they were also related to the Robins family? Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:30 am ((PDT)) The parents of William Robins are unknown at this time. What we know about William Robins comes from his Rev. War pension records. He had 10 children that are named in a Bible record & also in his Rev. War records. > Posted by: tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx > Date: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:12 pm ((PDT)) > > Ah. Yes. I see your post from last year. Very interesting. I have a > genetic match to a woman who is related to some Mutchlers but her > ancestors descend from Frederick's brother Valentine. I have no idea how > the woman and I are related. But the connection between some Robbins and > some Mutchlers got my attention. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2246 Sender:cgilleece@... Post Date/Time:2018-08-19 11:31:52 Subject:Richard Robins. 1710 Message: I also tested at FTDNA. Iā€™ll look for you. Caroline > On Aug 19, 2018, at 2:08 PM, Suzanne McDonald Suzanne_Robbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > Caroline, > My dad did his on Ancestry. I did mine on myFTDNA, and added my dad's file there (though it's marked private, accessible to the Robbins surname project). > Suzanne > > > On Sunday, August 19, 2018, 2:04:14 PM EDT, cgilleece@cfl.rr.com [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > > Suzanne, where did you test? Ancestry? I would love to confer with you because I also spring from Richard >Michael>Jesse Sr>Jesse Jr >Daniel >Martha Jane Robins Painter>Floyd Painter my Dad. cegilleece@...m > > > Caroline > >> On Aug 19, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Suzanne McDonald Suzanne_Robbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> My dad (Christopher L. Robbins) was one of the researchers who was actively researching the Robbins line. Unfortunately, he passed away unexpectedly this past spring. I've taken over his research, though at this po int I cannot be the active researcher he was. As an aside, we've both had our DNA done, though just autosomal. I'm trying to convince my brother to do the Y test. >> >> In any case, he believe we were descended from Hope Potter and Daniel Robbins, though the connection is not quite clear. He told me that we are descended from Richard Robbins (b abt 1710) and Anna Parsons, thought t o be a son of Joseph Robbins (b. 1670) and Hanna Pack, son of Daniel and Hope. >> >> In any case, he was being careful to document everything (where he could). I plan to go back up to his house in a few weeks, and I'll see what he has in his notes/paper files. I have he gedcom, but the sources list ed with the Johns and Jonathan he had listed as grandsons of Daniel and Hope (nor are the spouses/issue, so he may not have done anything). >> >> Thanks for including me on this list, by the way. >> >> Suzanne Robbins McDonald >> >> >> >> On Sunday, August 19, 2018, 11:36:06 AM EDT, Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@gmail.com [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks Marshall. Interesting! >> I'll have to really study this to try to understand it! >> >> Tracey >> >>> On 8/18/2018 5:29 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: >>> >>> >>> What I have is a file containing Garry's post from 11 Jul 2017 followed by >>> (what I assume is) a response from Sara. Sara below refers to a will >>> (Robins book, page 185). However, the referenced will names John ROBINS' >>> spouse as Elizabeth. Maybe a second spouse. Or maybe John's spouse was >>> Anna Elizabeth or Elizabeth Anna. Or maybe Sara was responding to a >>> different query and I erred when putting the postings together. Anyway, >>> Sara's response as I have it ... >>> >>> Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 >>> Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:59 am ((PDT)) >>> >>> Jonathan Robins b. 1748-1796 & brother John Robins 1751-1789 were the sons >>> of Jonathan Robins 1722-1796. >>> >>> John Robins left a Will that names his children & refers to one son Robert >>> 1777-1856 being placed with his Grandfather Robins to learn the weaver >>> trade. The John Robins Will has been transcribed & can be viewed on pg. >>> 185 in the Robins, Robbins book. The parents of grandfather Jonathan >>> Robins b. 1722 & died 1796 in Alexandria Township, Hunterdon Co., NJ. are >>> unknown. He is believed to be a possible grandson of Daniel & Hope. We >>> know through DNA that this family belongs to the Daniel Robins family. The >>> dates given for the death of Jonathan b. 1722 & his son Jonathan, Jr. b. >>> 1748 are both 1796 & are assumed dates. This is due to their inventories >>> being taken on the same day 10-14-1796 & both residing in Alexandria >>> Township. Col. Jonathan Robins 1774-1867 of Greenwich Township was the >>> administrator of his grandfather Jonathan's estate. In 2006, Jonathan >>> Robins 1722-1796 & his sons Jonathan & John were approved by the DAR as a >>> patriot ancestors. >>> >>> This is a line that needs more work & the descendants who did most of the >>> work are no longer active researchers. >>> >>> Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 >>> Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:27 am ((PDT)) >>> >>> Some thoughts regarding Jonathan Sr. 1722-1796 & Jonathan Robins, Jr. >>> 1748-1796. Jonathan Johnson was the administrator of Jonathan Jr's estate. >>> I don't believe we know the relationship between Jonathan Jr. & Jonathan >>> Johnson. Maybe a grandson? John Cooley & Henry Mettler both of Alexandria >>> Township took the inventories of Jonathan Sr. & Jonathan Jr's estate. They >>> were neighbors of Jonathan Sr. & I wonder if they were also related to the >>> Robins family? >>> >>> Posted by: "Sara Hoffman" july37@... turkeypt2 >>> Date: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:30 am ((PDT)) >>> >>> The parents of William Robins are unknown at this time. What we know about >>> William Robins comes from his Rev. War pension records. He had 10 children >>> that are named in a Bible record & also in his Rev. War records. >>> >>> > Posted by: tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx >>> > Date: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:12 pm ((PDT)) >>> > >>> > Ah. Yes. I see your post from last year. Very interesting. I have a >>> > genetic match to a woman who is related to some Mutchlers but her >>> > ancestors descend from Frederick's brother Valentine. I have no idea how >>> > the woman and I are related. But the connection between some Robbins and >>> > some Mutchlers got my attention. >>> >>> -- >>> Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2247 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-08-20 15:11:22 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Richard ROBBINS (was: Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters mar) Message: Suzanne, After you see your dad's notes/papers it may help if you post your proven ROBINS/ROBBINS line. > Posted by: "Suzanne McDonald" Suzanne_Robbins@... suzanne_robbins > Date: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:39 am ((PDT)) > > My dad (Christopher L. Robbins) was one of the researchers who was > actively researching the Robbins line.?? Unfortunately, he passed away > unexpectedly this past spring.?? I've taken over his research, though at > this point I cannot be the active researcher he was.?? As an aside, > we've both had our DNA done, though just autosomal.?? I'm trying to > convince my brother to do the Y test. In any case, he believe we were > descended from Hope Potter and Daniel Robbins, though the connection is > not quite clear.?? He told me that we are descended from Richard Robbins > (b abt 1710) and Anna Parsons, thought to be a son of Joseph Robbins (b. > 1670) and Hanna Pack, son of Daniel and Hope.?? > > In any case, he was being careful to document everything (where he > could).?? I plan to go back up to his house in a few weeks, and I'll see > what he has in his notes/paper files.?? I have he gedcom, but the > sources listed with the Johns and Jonathan he had listed as grandsons of > Daniel and Hope (nor are the spouses/issue, so he may not have done > anything).?? > > Thanks for including me on this list, by the way.?? > > Suzanne Robbins McDonald -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2248 Sender:Suzanne McDonald Post Date/Time:2018-08-20 16:20:17 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Richard ROBBINS (was: Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters mar) Message: Marshall, You're right! I should have properly introduced myself instead of jumping in like an excited puppy. I don't need his notes for the proven lineage, which I include (in brief) here: Suzanne Robbins McDonaldd/oChristopher L. Robbins, b 29 Nov 1941, Durham, NC, d 12 Apr 1918, Knoxville, TN (m. Emily Carol Guy)s/oGeorge L. Robbins Jr b. 18 Dec 1910, Randolph Co. NC, d. 19 Aug 2003, Springfield, Fairfa x, VA (m. Blanche Geneva Atkins)s/oGeorge L. Robbins Sr, b. 27 Jan 1879, Randolph Co., NC, d. 17 May 1960, Guilford Co., NC (m. Mary Jane Webster)s/oNathan B. Robbins, b 6 Feb 1837, Randolph Co., NC, d. 6 Nov 1909, Rand olph Co., NC (m. Martha Jane Swaim)s/oGeorge Franklin Robbins, b. abt 1800, Randolph Co., NC, d. bet 1850-1852, Randolph Co., NC (m. Miriam Rich)s/oJohn Fletcher Robbins , b. 27 Dec 1764, (then) Rowan Co., NC, d. 22 May 1851 (probably) Randolph Co., NC (m. Elizabeth Towery)s/oIsaac Robbins, b. bef. 1734, d btw Dec 1807/May 1808, Randolph Co., NC (m. Ann Bryant)s/oRichard Robbins, b. abt 1710, d. aft 1769 (m. Hanna/Anne Pack) At this point, my dad said there was no proof that Richard was the son of Joseph, known son of Daniel Robins & Hope Potter, but that many researchers believed he was the unborn son in Joseph's will. I'm trying to convince my brother to do one of the Y dna tests currently on sale at Family Tree DNA. I've told him it won't just clear things up for us, but help with the overall project. Sincerely, Suzanne Robbins McDonald. On Monday, August 20, 2018, 6:11:32 PM EDT, Marshall Lake mlake@mlake.net [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Suzanne, After you see your dad's notes/papers it may help if you post your proven ROBINS/ROBBINS line. > Posted by: "Suzanne McDonald" Suzanne_Robbins@... suzanne_robbins > Date: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:39 am ((PDT)) > > My dad (Christopher L. Robbins) was one of the researchers who was > actively researching the Robbins line.?? Unfortunately, he passed away > unexpectedly this past spring.?? I've taken over his research, though at > this point I cannot be the active researcher he was.?? As an aside, > we've both had our DNA done, though just autosomal.?? I'm trying to > convince my brother to do the Y test. In any case, he believe we were > descended from Hope Potter and Daniel Robbins, though the connection is > not quite clear.?? He told me that we are descended from Richard Robbins > (b abt 1710) and Anna Parsons, thought to be a son of Joseph Robbins (b. > 1670) and Hanna Pack, son of Daniel and Hope.?? > > In any case, he was being careful to document everything (where he > could).?? I plan to go back up to his house in a few weeks, and I'll see > what he has in his notes/paper files.?? I have he gedcom, but the > sources listed with the Johns and Jonathan he had listed as grandsons of > Daniel and Hope (nor are the spouses/issue, so he may not have done > anything).?? > > Thanks for including me on this list, by the way.?? > > Suzanne Robbins McDonald -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2249 Sender:Suzanne McDonald Post Date/Time:2018-08-20 16:47:24 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Richard ROBBINS (was: Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters mar) Message: Correction, by dad died in 2018, not 1918. On Monday, August 20, 2018, 7:20:17 PM EDT, Suzanne McDonald wrote: Marshall, You're right! I should have properly introduced myself instead of jumping in like an excited puppy. I don't need his notes for the proven lineage, which I include (in brief) here: Suzanne Robbins McDonaldd/oChristopher L. Robbins, b 29 Nov 1941, Durham, NC, d 12 Apr 1918, Knoxville, TN (m. Emily Carol Guy)s/oGeorge L. Robbins Jr b. 18 Dec 1910, Randolph Co. NC, d. 19 Aug 2003, Springfield, Fairfa x, VA (m. Blanche Geneva Atkins)s/oGeorge L. Robbins Sr, b. 27 Jan 1879, Randolph Co., NC, d. 17 May 1960, Guilford Co., NC (m. Mary Jane Webster)s/oNathan B. Robbins, b 6 Feb 1837, Randolph Co., NC, d. 6 Nov 1909, Rand olph Co., NC (m. Martha Jane Swaim)s/oGeorge Franklin Robbins, b. abt 1800, Randolph Co., NC, d. bet 1850-1852, Randolph Co., NC (m. Miriam Rich)s/oJohn Fletcher Robbins , b. 27 Dec 1764, (then) Rowan Co., NC, d. 22 May 1851 (probably) Randolph Co., NC (m. Elizabeth Towery)s/oIsaac Robbins, b. bef. 1734, d btw Dec 1807/May 1808, Randolph Co., NC (m. Ann Bryant)s/oRichard Robbins, b. abt 1710, d. aft 1769 (m. Hanna/Anne Pack) At this point, my dad said there was no proof that Richard was the son of Joseph, known son of Daniel Robins & Hope Potter, but that many researchers believed he was the unborn son in Joseph's will. I'm trying to convince my brother to do one of the Y dna tests currently on sale at Family Tree DNA. I've told him it won't just clear things up for us, but help with the overall project. Sincerely, Suzanne Robbins McDonald. On Monday, August 20, 2018, 6:11:32 PM EDT, Marshall Lake mlake@mlake.net [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Suzanne, After you see your dad's notes/papers it may help if you post your proven ROBINS/ROBBINS line. > Posted by: "Suzanne McDonald" Suzanne_Robbins@... suzanne_robbins > Date: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:39 am ((PDT)) > > My dad (Christopher L. Robbins) was one of the researchers who was > actively researching the Robbins line.?? Unfortunately, he passed away > unexpectedly this past spring.?? I've taken over his research, though at > this point I cannot be the active researcher he was.?? As an aside, > we've both had our DNA done, though just autosomal.?? I'm trying to > convince my brother to do the Y test. In any case, he believe we were > descended from Hope Potter and Daniel Robbins, though the connection is > not quite clear.?? He told me that we are descended from Richard Robbins > (b abt 1710) and Anna Parsons, thought to be a son of Joseph Robbins (b. > 1670) and Hanna Pack, son of Daniel and Hope.?? > > In any case, he was being careful to document everything (where he > could).?? I plan to go back up to his house in a few weeks, and I'll see > what he has in his notes/paper files.?? I have he gedcom, but the > sources listed with the Johns and Jonathan he had listed as grandsons of > Daniel and Hope (nor are the spouses/issue, so he may not have done > anything).?? > > Thanks for including me on this list, by the way.?? > > Suzanne Robbins McDonald -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2250 Sender:marys616 Post Date/Time:2018-08-21 05:14:46 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Richard ROBBINS (was: Fredrick Mutchler of Greenwich twp, Sussex Co. ; 2 daughters mar) Message: Suzanne, my fatherā€™s family can also be traced back to Richard b. 1710. My dadā€™s DNA test through Family DNA came back as a 0 distance from a Chris Robbins also on the list. So I am excitedly following your posts thinki ng it might be your dad. My dadā€™s family moved into Harlan/Bell County, Kentucky from NC. I could use your help in tracing my family back to Richard and beyond. Thanks, Mary Robbins Starkey > On Aug 20, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Suzanne McDonald Suzanne_Robbins@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > Marshall, > > You're right! I should have properly introduced myself instead of jumping in like an excited puppy. I don't need his notes for the proven lineage, which I include (in brief) here: > > Suzanne Robbins McDonald > d/o > Christopher L. Robbins, b 29 Nov 1941, Durham, NC, d 12 Apr 1918, Knoxville, TN (m. Emily Carol Guy) > s/o > George L. Robbins Jr b. 18 Dec 1910, Randolph Co. NC, d. 19 Aug 2003, Springfield, Fairfax, VA (m. Blanche Geneva Atkins) > s/o > George L. Robbins Sr, b. 27 Jan 1879, Randolph Co., NC, d. 17 May 1960, Guilford Co., NC (m. Mary Jane Webster) > s/o > Nathan B. Robbins, b 6 Feb 1837, Randolph Co., NC, d. 6 Nov 1909, Randolph Co., NC (m. Martha Jane Swaim) > s/o > George Franklin Robbins, b. abt 1800, Randolph Co., NC, d. bet 1850-1852, Randolph Co., NC (m. Miriam Rich) > s/o > John Fl etcher Robbins , b. 27 Dec 1764, (then) Rowan Co., NC, d. 22 May 1851 (probably) Randolph Co., NC (m. Elizabeth Towery) > s/o > Isaac Robbins, b. bef. 1734, d btw Dec 1807/May 1808, Randolph Co., NC (m. Ann Bryant) > s/o > Richard Robbins, b. abt 1710, d. aft 1769 (m. Hanna/Anne Pack) > > At this point, my dad said there was no proof that Richard was the son of Joseph, known son of Daniel Robins & Hope Potter, but that many researchers believed he was the unborn son in Joseph's will. > > I'm trying to convince my brother to do one of the Y dna tests currently on sale at Family Tree DNA. I've told him it won't just clear things up for us, but help with the overall project. > > Sincerely, > Suzanne Robbins McDonald. > > > On Monday, August 20, 2018, 6:11:32 PM EDT, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > > > Suzanne, > > After you see your dad's notes/papers it may help if you post your proven > ROBINS/ROBBINS line. > > > Posted by: "Suzanne McDonald" Suzanne_Robbins@... suzanne_robbins > > Date: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:39 am ((PDT)) > > > > My dad (Christopher L. Robbins) was one of the researchers who was > > actively researching the Robbins line.?? Unfortunately, he passed away > > unexpectedly this past spring.?? I've taken over his research, though at > > this point I cannot be the active researcher he was.?? As an aside, > > we've both had our DNA done, though just autosomal.?? I'm trying to > > convince my brother to do the Y test. In any case, he believe we were > > descended from Hope Potter and Daniel Robbins, though the connection is > > not quite clear.?? He told me that we are descended from Richard Robbins > > (b abt 1710) and Anna Parsons, thought to be a son of Joseph Robbins (b. > > 1670) and Hanna Pack, son of Daniel and Hope.?? > > > > In any case, he was being careful to document everything (where he > > could).?? I plan to go back up to his house in a few weeks, and I'll see > > what he has in his notes/paper files.?? I have he gedcom, but the > > sources listed with the Johns and Jonathan he had listed as grandsons of > > Daniel and Hope (nor are the spouses/issue, so he may not have done > > anything).?? > > > > Thanks for including me on this list, by the way.?? > > > > Suzanne Robbins McDonald > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2251 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-08-21 08:51:56 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Richard ROBINS Message: Suzanne, Shouldn't "(m. Hanna/Anne Pack)" below be "(son of Hanna/Anne Pack)" ? Do you have proof that Richard ROBBINS is the son of Hanna/Anne PACK? > Posted by: "Suzanne McDonald" Suzanne_Robbins@... suzanne_robbins > Date: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:20 pm ((PDT)) > > You're right! I should have properly introduced myself instead of > jumping in like an excited puppy. I don't need his notes for the proven > lineage, which I include (in brief) here: Suzanne Robbins > McDonaldd/oChristopher L. Robbins, b 29 Nov 1941, Durham, NC, d 12 Apr > 1918, Knoxville, TN (m. Emily Carol Guy)s/oGeorge L. Robbins Jr b. 18 > Dec 1910, Randolph Co. NC, d. 19 Aug 2003, Springfield, Fairfax, VA (m. > Blanche Geneva Atkins)s/oGeorge L. Robbins Sr, b. 27 Jan 1879, Randolph > Co., NC, d. 17 May 1960, Guilford Co., NC (m. Mary Jane > Webster)s/oNathan B. Robbins, b 6 Feb 1837, Randolph Co., NC, d. 6 Nov > 1909, Randolph Co., NC (m. Martha Jane Swaim)s/oGeorge Franklin Robbins, > b. abt 1800, Randolph Co.., NC, d. bet 1850-1852, Randolph Co., NC (m. > Miriam Rich)s/oJohn Fletcher Robbins , b. 27 Dec 1764, (then) Rowan Co., > NC, d. 22 May 1851 (probably) Randolph Co., NC (m. Elizabeth > Towery)s/oIsaac Robbins, b. bef. 1734, d btw Dec 1807/May 1808, Randolph > Co., NC (m. Ann Bryant)s/oRichard Robbins, b. abt 1710, d. aft 1769 (m. > Hanna/Anne Pack) At this point, my dad said there was no proof that > Richard was the son of Joseph, known son of Daniel Robins & Hope Potter, > but that many researchers believed he was the unborn son in Joseph's > will. > > I'm trying to convince my brother to do one of the Y dna tests currently > on sale at Family Tree DNA. I've told him it won't just clear things up > for us, but help with the overall project. > > Sincerely, > Suzanne Robbins McDonald. > Posted by: "Suzanne McDonald" Suzanne_Robbins@... suzanne_robbins > Date: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:51 pm ((PDT)) > > Correction, by dad died in 2018, not 1918. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2252 Sender:"todd.d.robbins@..." Post Date/Time:2018-08-21 16:18:32 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Moderator Help Message: I just sent an invite to ckutz@... Are folks still not receiving messages from the group? On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:00 PM 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > Hi Todd, > > Iā€™ve got someone who has difficulty joining the Robbins group. > > Thanks, > Garry > > Good morning, Garry, > > Yes, I would appreciate you looking into my Yahoo group problem. Thank > you! I tried to rejoin about a month ago with my ckutz@... email, but > was not approved. > > *From:* 'todd.d..robbins@...' todd.d.robbins@gmail.com > [robbinsfamilysociety] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:21 PM > *To:* Robbins Family Society > *Subject:* Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Moderator Help > > > > Hello all, > > I'm checking the group settings right now. I'll update you again once I > finish checking on what's happening. > > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 1:03 PM, 'Sara Hoffman' july37@... > [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > >> >> >> Tod, >> >> Iā€™m also having problems posting & receiving mail from the group. Can you >> help us? >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Sara >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto: >> robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:59 AM >> *To:* ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List < >> robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com> >> *Subject:* [robbinsfamilysociety] Moderator Help >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I receive a daily digest for this group. I haven't received a digest in >> several days even though new messages were posted several days ago. >> >> -- >> Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net >> >> > > > -- > Tod Robbins, MLIS > todrobbins.com | @todrobbins > > -- Tod Robbins, MLIS todrobbins.com | @todrobbins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2253 Sender:gheagy@... Post Date/Time:2018-08-22 05:01:22 Subject:Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ Message: Marshall has found 2 land deeds for Joseph Robins of Kingwood Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ. Joseph could be the son of Isaac Robins who died Oct 1741 in Amwell Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ. Assuming Joseph Robins did not sell other land between 1757 and 1763, he would have retained 29 acres of land after the sale in 1763. I've found no other information on Joseph Robins of Kingwood. Does anyone have information? Garry From Hunterdon County Deeds: Date - 1 Nov 1757 Grantor - John Biles of Kingwood Township Grantee - Joseph Robins, yeoman, of Kingwood Township Land - 120 acres situate in Kingwood Township, consideration - Ā£240 Adjoining - John Emley, John Biles Signed - John Biles Witnesses - Edmund Freeman Elisha Emley Date - 28 March 1763 Grantor - Joseph Robins of Kingwood Township Grantee - Jeremiah King of Kingwood Township Land - 91 acres situate in Kingwood Township, consideration - Ā£273 Adjoining - Daniel Farnsworth, Jeremiah King, James Johnson, Martain Binder, John Emley Signed - Joseph Robins Rachel Robins Witnesses - Thomas Stevenson Jacob Paxson John Oliver ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2254 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-08-22 07:49:08 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Moderator Help Message: A while back I was having an issue getting messages via daily digests. That seems resolved now, though I have not compared what I have been receiving to what appears on the Web site. > Posted by: "todd.d.robbins@..." todd.d.robbins@... tdamcbigity > Date: Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:19 pm ((PDT)) > > I just sent an invite to ckutz@... > > Are folks still not receiving messages from the group? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2255 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-08-22 08:51:37 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ Message: It would seem that Rachel ROBINS (who signed the deed below where Joseph is the grantor) would be Joseph's spouse. By the way, the abstracts below were created in non-ideal conditions and should be double checked. There were a couple other indenture abstracts (but not the actual indentures) I saw while at the HCHS ... 0018/I-069 BILES, John, Kingwood Twp, to Jeremyah KING, Kingwood Twp, 8 Mar 1759, part of 261 acre tract in Kingwood John BILES purchased from John EMLEY 5 May 1750, butted & bounded by lands of John EMLEY, Thomas FARNSWORTH, Joseph ROBINS & Achsah LAMBERT 81 acres 0018/I-073 BILES, Elizabeth, Maidenhead Twp, widow of John BILES, deceased, to Jeremiah KING, Kingwood Twp, 10 Dec 1770, acquit and discharge right of dower in two tracts of land, the first conveyed by John BILES to Joseph ROBINS and by ROBINS to Jeremiah KING, 120 acres, and adjoining it another tract of 81 acres. Also ... From "More Records of Old Hunterdon County, Volume I " by Phyllis B D'Autrechy in 1998 Miscellaneous Records, c1736-c1898 quote Joseph Robbins "lives near the Hickory". (1766) #31253 Joseph Robbins "lives near ye Hickory". (1767) #32204 unquote > Posted by: gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:02 am ((PDT)) > > Marshall has found 2 land deeds for Joseph Robins of Kingwood Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ. Joseph could be the son of Isaac Robins who died Oct 1741 in Amwell Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ. > Assuming Joseph Robins did not sell other land between 1757 and 1763, he would have retained 29 acres of land after the sale in 1763. > I've found no other information on Joseph Robins of Kingwood. Does anyone have information? > Garry > > > From Hunterdon County Deeds: > Date - 1 Nov 1757 > Grantor - John Biles of Kingwood Township > Grantee - Joseph Robins, yeoman, of Kingwood Township > Land - 120 acres situate in Kingwood Township, consideration - ļæ½240 > Adjoining - John Emley, John Biles > Signed - John Biles > Witnesses - Edmund Freeman > Elisha Emley > > > Date - 28 March 1763 > Grantor - Joseph Robins of Kingwood Township > Grantee - Jeremiah King of Kingwood Township > Land - 91 acres situate in Kingwood Township, consideration - ļæ½273 > Adjoining - Daniel Farnsworth, Jeremiah King, James Johnson, Martain Binder, John Emley > Signed - Joseph Robins > Rachel Robins > Witnesses - Thomas Stevenson > Jacob Paxson > John Oliver -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2256 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-08-22 11:24:48 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ Message: The only mention of Hickory in Hunterdon County is the Hickory Tavern: A brief history of the Hickory Tavern appears in the book ā€œOld Inns and Taverns of Western New Jerseyā€ by Charles S. Boyer, pgs 227-228: ā€œThe first mention of Hickory Tavern, which has so far been located, is in a report of the commissioners of Hunterdon and Sussex Counties, dated May 8, 1756, in connection with certain changes in ā€˜the road leading from Hickory Tavern, in Bethlehem, to the South Branch of the Rarington.ā€™ It had, at that time, become the starting point of a new and important highway, but none of the records examined disclose when or by whom the tavern w as built. In a ā€˜To be LETT or SOLDā€™ advertisement in the Pennsylvania Gazette of January 11, 1759, it was described as ā€˜about 8 miles from the said Iron Works (Union Iron Works), and on the Road to Easton, and the Morav ian settlements.ā€™ Located on the Kingā€™s Highway it was one of the principal stopping places for travelers on this road. The part of the road from Pittstown to Bloomsbury was on some maps, marked ā€˜Hickory Road; and, bein g midway between these places, the tavern was at one time called the ā€˜Half Way House.ā€™ In 1767, John Emley, as agent for John Stevens and James Parker, executed a lease to John Farnesworth and Adonijah Farnesworth for a plantation of 150 acres of which 50 acres was cleared. The lease was for a term of seven years and the annual rental five shillings. The tenant, however, agreed to build ā€˜a Good Logg house 28 foot by 22, a good Cellar under the whole to be Walled with Stones; build a good Kitchenā€¦good Logg Barn and Stables, etc.ā€™ This building was to replace the old one, which, by this time, had become dilapidated.ā€ Further pieces of the story can be picked up in Snellā€™s History of Hunterdon County, New Jersey, on page 424ā€¦ ā€œJuly 24, 1769, John Farnsworth, of the township of Alexandria, tavernkeeper, sold his lease of the ā€˜New Hickory Tavernā€™ to Spencer Carter, of the township of Lebanon, for 81 pounds.ā€ Charles Boyerā€™s book also adds that after John sold his lease he moved to Phillipsburg. The place where the Hickory Tavern was located is at the present day intersection of routes 614 and 579 in Hunterdon County. The spot is marked with a historical marker indicating the tavernā€™s importance to 18th century travelers. From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 11:51 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ It would seem that Rachel ROBINS (who signed the deed below where Joseph is the grantor) would be Joseph's spouse. By the way, the abstracts below were created in non-ideal conditions and should be double checked. There were a couple other indenture abstracts (but not the actual indentures) I saw while at the HCHS ... 0018/I-069 BILES, John, Kingwood Twp, to Jeremyah KING, Kingwood Twp, 8 Mar 1759, part of 261 acre tract in Kingwood John BILES purchased from John EMLEY 5 May 1750, butted & bounded by lands of John EMLEY, Thomas FARNSWORTH, Joseph ROBINS & Achsah LAMBERT 81 acres 0018/I-073 BILES, Elizabeth, Maidenhead Twp, widow of John BILES, deceased, to Jeremiah KING, Kingwood Twp, 10 Dec 1770, acquit and discharge right of dower in two tracts of land, the first conveyed by John BILES to Joseph ROBINS and by ROBINS to Jeremiah KING, 120 acres, and adjoining it another tract of 81 acres. Also ... From "More Records of Old Hunterdon County, Volume I " by Phyllis B D'Autrechy in 1998 Miscellaneous Records, c1736-c1898 quote Joseph Robbins "lives near the Hickory". (1766) #31253 Joseph Robbins "lives near ye Hickory". (1767) #32204 unquote > Posted by: gheagy@... gheagy@netflash.net > Date: Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:02 am ((PDT)) > > Marshall has found 2 land deeds for Joseph Robins of Kingwood Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ. Joseph could be the son of Isaac Robins who died Oct 1741 in Amwell Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ. > Assuming Joseph Robins did not sell other land between 1757 and 1763, he would have retained 29 acres of land after the sale in 1763. > I've found no other information on Joseph Robins of Kingwood. Does anyone have information? > Garry > > > From Hunterdon County Deeds: > Date - 1 Nov 1757 > Grantor - John Biles of Kingwood Township > Grantee - Joseph Robins, yeoman, of Kingwood Township > Land - 120 acres situate in Kingwood Township, consideration - Ā£240 > Adjoining - John Emley, John Biles > Signed - John Biles > Witnesses - Edmund Freeman > Elisha Emley > > > Date - 28 March 1763 > Grantor - Joseph Robins of Kingwood Township > Grantee - Jeremiah King of Kingwood Township > Land - 91 acres situate in Kingwood Township, consideration - Ā£273 > Adjoining - Daniel Farnsworth, Jeremiah King, James Johnson, Martain Binder, John Emley > Signed - Joseph Robins > Rachel Robins > Witnesses - Thomas Stevenson > Jacob Paxson > John Oliver -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2257 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-08-22 11:31:56 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ Message: John Emley was a wealthy Quaker and large landowner in Kingwood Township. He was named to make the inventory of Daniel Robins, who died in 1763 in Amwell Twp. Daniel was the son of Job. From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 11:51 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ It would seem that Rachel ROBINS (who signed the deed below where Joseph is the grantor) would be Joseph's spouse. By the way, the abstracts below were created in non-ideal conditions and should be double checked. There were a couple other indenture abstracts (but not the actual indentures) I saw while at the HCHS ... 0018/I-069 BILES, John, Kingwood Twp, to Jeremyah KING, Kingwood Twp, 8 Mar 1759, part of 261 acre tract in Kingwood John BILES purchased from John EMLEY 5 May 1750, butted & bounded by lands of John EMLEY, Thomas FARNSWORTH, Joseph ROBINS & Achsah LAMBERT 81 acres 0018/I-073 BILES, Elizabeth, Maidenhead Twp, widow of John BILES, deceased, to Jeremiah KING, Kingwood Twp, 10 Dec 1770, acquit and discharge right of dower in two tracts of land, the first conveyed by John BILES to Joseph ROBINS and by ROBINS to Jeremiah KING, 120 acres, and adjoining it another tract of 81 acres. Also ... From "More Records of Old Hunterdon County, Volume I " by Phyllis B D'Autrechy in 1998 Miscellaneous Records, c1736-c1898 quote Joseph Robbins "lives near the Hickory". (1766) #31253 Joseph Robbins "lives near ye Hickory". (1767) #32204 unquote > Posted by: gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:02 am ((PDT)) > > Marshall has found 2 land deeds for Joseph Robins of Kingwood Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ. Joseph could be the son of Isaac Robins who died Oct 1741 in Amwell Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ. > Assuming Joseph Robins did not sell other land between 1757 and 1763, he would have retained 29 acres of land after the sale in 1763. > I've found no other information on Joseph Robins of Kingwood. Does anyone have information? > Garry > > > From Hunterdon County Deeds: > Date - 1 Nov 1757 > Grantor - John Biles of Kingwood Township > Grantee - Joseph Robins, yeoman, of Kingwood Township > Land - 120 acres situate in Kingwood Township, consideration - Ā£240 > Adjoining - John Emley, John Biles > Signed - John Biles > Witnesses - Edmund Freeman > Elisha Emley > > > Date - 28 March 1763 > Grantor - Joseph Robins of Kingwood Township > Grantee - Jeremiah King of Kingwood Township > Land - 91 acres situate in Kingwood Township, consideration - Ā£273 > Adjoining - Daniel Farnsworth, Jeremiah King, James Johnson, Martain Binder, John Emley > Signed - Joseph Robins > Rachel Robins > Witnesses - Thomas Stevenson > Jacob Paxson > John Oliver -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2258 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-08-23 07:55:56 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ Message: I have seen the corner near the Tavern (intersection of routes 614 and 579) referred to as Hickory Corners. And I've seen "the Hickory" used as a place reference in Commissioner Sales, Land Divisions, deeds, etc. > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:24 am ((PDT)) > > The only mention of Hickory in Hunterdon County is the Hickory Tavern: > > A brief history of the Hickory Tavern appears in the book ???Old Inns and Taverns of Western New Jersey??? by Charles S. Boyer, pgs 227-228: > ???The first mention of Hickory Tavern, which has so far been located, is in a report of the commissioners of Hunterdon and Sussex Counties, dated May 8, 1756, in connection with certain changes in ???the road leading from Hickory Tavern, in Bethlehem, to the South Branch of the Rarington.??? It had, at that time, become the starting point of a new and important highway, but none of the records examined disclose when or by whom the tavern was built. In a ???To be LETT or SOLD??? advertisement in the Pennsylvania Gazette of January 11, 1759, it was described as ???about 8 miles from the said Iron Works (Union Iron Works), and on the Road to Easton, and the Moravian settlements.??? Located on the King???s Highway it was one of the principal stopping places for travelers on this road. The part of the road from Pittstown to Bloomsbury was on some maps, marked ???Hic kory Road; and, being midway between these places, the tavern was at one time called the ???Half Way House.??? In 1767, Jo hn Emley, as agent for John Stevens and James Parker, executed a lease to John Farnesworth and Adonijah Farnesworth for a plantation of 150 acres of which 50 acres was cleared. The lease was for a term of seven years a nd the annual rental five shillings. The tenant, however, agreed to build ???a Good Logg house 28 foot by 22, a good Cellar under the whole to be Walled with Stones; build a good Kitchen???good Logg Barn and Stables, et c.??? This building was to replace the old one, which, by this time, had become dilapidated.??? > > Further pieces of the story can be picked up in Snell???s History of Hunterdon County, New Jersey, on page 424??? > > ???July 24, 1769, John Farnsworth, of the township of Alexandria, tavernkeeper, sold his lease of the ???New Hickory Tavern??? to Spencer Carter, of the township of Lebanon, for 81 pounds.??? Charles Boyer???s book al so adds that after John sold his lease he moved to Phillipsburg. > > The place where the Hickory Tavern was located is at the present day intersection of routes 614 and 579 in Hunterdon County. The spot is marked with a historical marker indicating the tavern???s importance to 18th cen tury travelers. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2259 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-08-23 09:35:39 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ Message: Marshall, Do you think ā€œthe Hickoryā€ is the location of the Hickory Tavern? Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 10:55 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ I have seen the corner near the Tavern (intersection of routes 614 and 579) referred to as Hickory Corners. And I've seen "the Hickory" used as a place reference in Commissioner Sales, Land Divisions, deeds, etc. > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@netflash.net > Date: Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:24 am ((PDT)) > > The only mention of Hickory in Hunterdon County is the Hickory Tavern: > > A brief history of the Hickory Tavern appears in the book ???Old Inns and Taverns of Western New Jersey??? by Charles S. Boyer, pgs 227-228: > ???The first mention of Hickory Tavern, which has so far been located, is in a report of the commissioners of Hunterdon and Sussex Counties, dated May 8, 1756, in connection with certain changes in ???the road leading from Hickory Tavern, in Bethlehem, to the South Branch of the Rarington.??? It had, at that time, become the starting point of a new and important highway, but none of the records examined disclose when or by whom the tavern was built. In a ???To be LETT or SOLD??? advertisement in the Pennsylvania Gazette of January 11, 1759, it was described as ???about 8 miles from the said Iron Works (Union Iron Works), and on the Road to Easton, and the Moravian settlements.??? Located on the King???s Highway it was one of the principal stopping places for travelers on this road. The part of the road from Pittstown to Bloomsbury was on some maps, marked ???Hic kory Road; and, being midway between these places, the tavern was at one time called the ???Half Way House.??? In 1767, Jo hn Emley, as agent for John Stevens and James Parker, executed a lease to John Farnesworth and Adonijah Farnesworth for a plantation of 150 acres of which 50 acres was cleared. The lease was for a term of seven years an d the annual rental five shillings. The tenant, however, agreed to build ???a Good Logg house 28 foot by 22, a good Cellar under the whole to be Walled with Stones; build a good Kitchen???good Logg Barn and Stables, etc .??? This building was to replace the old one, which, by this time, had become dilapidated.??? > > Further pieces of the story can be picked up in Snell???s History of Hunterdon County, New Jersey, on page 424??? > > ???July 24, 1769, John Farnsworth, of the township of Alexandria, tavernkeeper, sold his lease of the ???New Hickory Tavern??? to Spencer Carter, of the township of Lebanon, for 81 pounds.??? Charles Boyer???s book al so adds that after John sold his lease he moved to Phillipsburg. > > The place where the Hickory Tavern was located is at the present day intersection of routes 614 and 579 in Hunterdon County. The spot is marked with a historical marker indicating the tavern???s importance to 18th cen tury travelers. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@mlake.net -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2260 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-08-24 08:26:48 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ Message: I would say so. What's left of the Hickory Tavern (according to a historical roadsign) stands very near the intersection of routes 614 and 579 on the Bethlehem Township side of route 579. > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:35 am ((PDT)) > > Marshall, > > Do you think ā€œthe Hickoryā€ is the location of the Hickory Tavern? > > Garry > > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 10:55 AM > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ > > > > I have seen the corner near the Tavern (intersection of routes 614 and > 579) referred to as Hickory Corners. > > And I've seen "the Hickory" used as a place reference in Commissioner > Sales, Land Divisions, deeds, etc. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2261 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-08-25 04:38:14 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ Message: Marshall, From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, NJ, pg. 424: (Iā€™ve omitted some information) Hickory Tavern March 7, 1767, John Emley leased to John Farnsworth and Adonijal Farnsworth 150 acres, including 50 of clear land. The tenants agreed to build a Good Logg house. This Logg house was the first Hickory Tavern. The signboard was fastened up a hickory tree, hence the name. The ā€œHickoryā€ was a place of considerable note in colonial times. It was on ā€œthe Kingā€™s Highwayā€. From Pittstown to Bloomsbury it has been known since the Revolution as the Hickory Road. The Hickory Road is now Route #579 or the Bloomsbury Road. If Joseph Robins lived near ā€œthe Hickoryā€, Iā€™m thinking he moved from Kingwood Township. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 11:26 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ I would say so. What's left of the Hickory Tavern (according to a historical roadsign) stands very near the intersection of routes 614 and 579 on the Bethlehem Township side of route 579. > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:35 am ((PDT)) > > Marshall, > > Do you think ā€œthe Hickoryā€ is the location of the Hickory Tavern? > > Garry > > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 10:55 AM > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ > > > > I have seen the corner near the Tavern (intersection of routes 614 and > 579) referred to as Hickory Corners. > > And I've seen "the Hickory" used as a place reference in Commissioner > Sales, Land Divisions, deeds, etc. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2262 Sender:gheagy@... Post Date/Time:2018-08-25 07:03:46 Subject:Robins, Robbins of New Jersey Message: I can't find a link to this book on the internet. I'd like to read the Deeds for Vincent and Joseph Robbins transferring their property (that they had received from their father Isaac) to Job Robbins in 1755. Thanks, Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2263 Sender:gheagy@... Post Date/Time:2018-08-25 07:01:36 Subject:Robins, Robbins of New Jersey Message: I can't find a link to this book on the internet. I'd like to read the Deeds for Vincent and Joseph Robbins transferring their property (that they had received from their father Isaac) to Job Robbins in 1755. Thanks, Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2264 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-08-25 13:08:24 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ Message: Kingwood Twp was formed in c1746 from Bethlehem Twp and bordered Bethlehem Twp to the north (as well as Alexandria Twp when it was formed in 1765 from Bethlehem Twp). Route 579 is the border between Alexandria Twp and Bethlehem Twp. (In 1845 Franklin Twp was formed from Kingwood Twp and Kingwood no longer bordered Bethlehem.) It looks to me (educated guess) that Kingwood Twp would have been 3-5 miles from Hickory Tavern and Hickory Corners. So, I wonder if Joseph could have lived in Kingwood Twp when he was described as being "near ye Hickory". Perhaps "ye Hickory" was the closest locale description at the time. Maybe Joseph's location could be pinpointed by deciphering the description within the indentures. Were there any other Joseph ROBINS who could be the subject of the "near ye Hickory" statements? I cannot locate any good possibilities. Garry, are you thinking this is Joseph, son of Isaac ROBINS (1700-1741) & Asubia ------? Did Joseph acquire any of his father's land? It appears Joseph & Vincent sold land from Isaac's estate in 1755. Perhaps he used the money from that sale to purchase the Kingwood Twp land in 1757. > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:38 am ((PDT)) > > Marshall, > > From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, NJ, pg. 424: (Iā€™ve omitted some information) > Hickory Tavern > March 7, 1767, John Emley leased to John Farnsworth and Adonijal Farnsworth 150 acres, including 50 of clear land. > The tenants agreed to build a Good Logg house. This Logg house was the first Hickory Tavern. The signboard was fastened up a hickory tree, hence the name. > The ā€œHickoryā€ was a place of considerable note in colonial times. It was on ā€œthe Kingā€™s Highwayā€. From Pittstown to Bloomsbury it has been known since the Revolution as the Hickory Road. > > The Hickory Road is now Route #579 or the Bloomsbury Road. > > If Joseph Robins lived near ā€œthe Hickoryā€, Iā€™m thinking he moved from Kingwood Township. > > Garry > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 11:26 AM > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ > > I would say so. What's left of the Hickory Tavern (according to a > historical roadsign) stands very near the intersection of routes 614 and > 579 on the Bethlehem Township side of route 579. > >> Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... >> Date: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:35 am ((PDT)) >> >> Marshall, >> >> Do you think ā€œthe Hickoryā€ is the location of the Hickory Tavern? >> >> Garry >> >> From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] >> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 10:55 AM >> To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ >> >> >> >> I have seen the corner near the Tavern (intersection of routes 614 and >> 579) referred to as Hickory Corners. >> >> And I've seen "the Hickory" used as a place reference in Commissioner >> Sales, Land Divisions, deeds, etc. > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2265 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-08-25 14:28:11 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robins, Robbins of New Jersey Message: Hi Garry, The snippet in the Robins, Robbins book says the following about the deed you refer to, is as follows (I copied it directly from the book): "Deed H-475 tells us much about the family. Here 2-Daniel deeded 200 Amwell Township acres to son Isaac from land he acquired in 1724 (part of the 707 acres from Deed M-40). This land was adjacent to his son John's land. Isaac died in 1741 and his will gave the land to his sons Vincent and Joseph. In 1755, Vincent and Joseph conveyed the 200 acres to Isaac's brother Job. In 1756, Job died and his will conveyed the 200 acres to his eldest son Daniel. In 1760, (date of Deed H-475) Daniel had the WJ Proprietors re-survey the land. They found the land to be 220 acres and not 200 acres; Daniel paid for the extra 20 acres." I have a book of West Jersey deeds abstracts (https://heritagebooks.com/products/101-d5687). None of the deeds mentioned in this paragraph are in this book. So I don't really know what to make of it. The LDS has digitized the microfilms for West Jersey deeds. BUT you have to go to one of their Family History Center locations to view them: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/252452?availability=Family%20History%20Library Tracey On 8/25/2018 9:03 AM, gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: I can't find a link to this book on the internet. I'd like to read the Deeds for Vincent and Joseph Robbins transferring their property (that they had received from their father Isaac) to Job Robbins in 1755. Thanks, Garry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2266 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-08-26 02:28:21 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ Message: Marshall, Youā€™re sharper than I am. I should have checked the dates the townships were formed. Alexandria Twp was formed in 1765, the Deed records for Joseph Robbins were prior to 1765, therefore Josephā€™s land could have been near the Hickory Tavern in the area that would become Alexandria Twp. Jonathan Robins/R obbins purchased land in the area in 1751. Yes, Iā€™m thinking this could be Joseph, son of Isaac. Iā€™ve read Isaacā€™s Will again. Vincent was the older son who received half of Isaacā€™s plantation when he died. Joseph was not to receive his half until Isaacā€™s wif e, Asubia, died. I havenā€™t found a Will or death record for Asubia, but she probably died by 1755 in order for Joseph to be in possession of his half of the plantation at that time. Iā€™m also thinking this could be the Joseph connected to my Robbins family. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 4:08 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ Kingwood Twp was formed in c1746 from Bethlehem Twp and bordered Bethlehem Twp to the north (as well as Alexandria Twp when it was formed in 1765 from Bethlehem Twp). Route 579 is the border between Alexandria Twp and Bethlehem Twp. (In 1845 Franklin Twp was formed from Kingwood Twp and Kingwood no longer bordered Bethlehem.) It looks to me (educated guess) that Kingwood Twp would have been 3-5 miles from Hickory Tavern and Hickory Corners. So, I wonder if Joseph could have lived in Kingwood Twp when he was described as being "near ye Hickory". Perhaps "ye Hickory" was the closest locale description at the time. Maybe Joseph's location could be pinpointed by deciphering the description within the indentures. Were there any other Joseph ROBINS who could be the subject of the "near ye Hickory" statements? I cannot locate any good possibilities. Garry, are you thinking this is Joseph, son of Isaac ROBINS (1700-1741) & Asubia ------? Did Joseph acquire any of his father's land? It appears Joseph & Vincent sold land from Isaac's estate in 1755. Perhaps he used the money from that sale to purchase the Kingwood Twp land in 1757. > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:38 am ((PDT)) > > Marshall, > > From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, NJ, pg. 424: (Iā€™ve omitted some information) > Hickory Tavern > March 7, 1767, John Emley leased to John Farnsworth and Adonijal Farnsworth 150 acres, including 50 of clear land. > The tenants agreed to build a Good Logg house. This Logg house was the first Hickory Tavern. The signboard was fastened up a hickory tree, hence the name. > The ā€œHickoryā€ was a place of considerable note in colonial times. It was on ā€œthe Kingā€™s Highwayā€. From Pittstown to Bloomsbury it has been known since the Revolution as the Hickory Road. > > The Hickory Road is now Route #579 or the Bloomsbury Road. > > If Joseph Robins lived near ā€œthe Hickoryā€, Iā€™m thinking he moved from Kingwood Township. > > Garry > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 11:26 AM > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ > > I would say so. What's left of the Hickory Tavern (according to a > historical roadsign) stands very near the intersection of routes 614 and > 579 on the Bethlehem Township side of route 579. > >> Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... >> Date: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:35 am ((PDT)) >> >> Marshall, >> >> Do you think ā€œthe Hickoryā€ is the location of the Hickory Tavern? >> >> Garry >> >> From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] >> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 10:55 AM >> To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ >> >> >> >> I have seen the corner near the Tavern (intersection of routes 614 and >> 579) referred to as Hickory Corners. >> >> And I've seen "the Hickory" used as a place reference in Commissioner >> Sales, Land Divisions, deeds, etc. > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2267 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-08-26 06:57:44 Subject:200 Acres, 1755 Message: Garry, This may interest you (if you haven't already seen it) ... https://goodspeedhistories.com/the-two-taverns-at-robins-hill-part-two/ -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2268 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-08-27 11:50:14 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ Message: Marshall, Joseph Robinsā€™ land probably was in Kingwood Twp, even after Alexandria Twp. was formed in 1767. From the 1772 Deed of Daniel Robbins and wife Ann to Jeremiah King, ā€œJeremiah King of the Township of Kingswoodā€. Also, the Deed record you have below from Elizabeth Biles, dated 1770, says ā€œJeremiah King, Kingwood Twp ā€ It seems Jeremiah King was somewhat wealthy. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@mlake.net [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 11:51 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Joseph Robins Hunterdon County, NJ It would seem that Rachel ROBINS (who signed the deed below where Joseph is the grantor) would be Joseph's spouse. By the way, the abstracts below were created in non-ideal conditions and should be double checked. There were a couple other indenture abstracts (but not the actual indentures) I saw while at the HCHS ... 0018/I-069 BILES, John, Kingwood Twp, to Jeremyah KING, Kingwood Twp, 8 Mar 1759, part of 261 acre tract in Kingwood John BILES purchased from John EMLEY 5 May 1750, butted & bounded by lands of John EMLEY, Thomas FARNSWORTH, Joseph ROBINS & Achsah LAMBERT 81 acres 0018/I-073 BILES, Elizabeth, Maidenhead Twp, widow of John BILES, deceased, to Jeremiah KING, Kingwood Twp, 10 Dec 1770, acquit and discharge right of dower in two tracts of land, the first conveyed by John BILES to Joseph ROBINS and by ROBINS to Jeremiah KING, 120 acres, and adjoining it another tract of 81 acres. Also ... From "More Records of Old Hunterdon County, Volume I " by Phyllis B D'Autrechy in 1998 Miscellaneous Records, c1736-c1898 quote Joseph Robbins "lives near the Hickory". (1766) #31253 Joseph Robbins "lives near ye Hickory". (1767) #32204 unquote > Posted by: gheagy@... gheagy@netflash.net > Date: Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:02 am ((PDT)) > > Marshall has found 2 land deeds for Joseph Robins of Kingwood Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ. Joseph could be the son of Isaac Robins who died Oct 1741 in Amwell Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ. > Assuming Joseph Robins did not sell other land between 1757 and 1763, he would have retained 29 acres of land after the sale in 1763. > I've found no other information on Joseph Robins of Kingwood. Does anyone have information? > Garry > > > From Hunterdon County Deeds: > Date - 1 Nov 1757 > Grantor - John Biles of Kingwood Township > Grantee - Joseph Robins, yeoman, of Kingwood Township > Land - 120 acres situate in Kingwood Township, consideration - Ā£240 > Adjoining - John Emley, John Biles > Signed - John Biles > Witnesses - Edmund Freeman > Elisha Emley > > > Date - 28 March 1763 > Grantor - Joseph Robins of Kingwood Township > Grantee - Jeremiah King of Kingwood Township > Land - 91 acres situate in Kingwood Township, consideration - Ā£273 > Adjoining - Daniel Farnsworth, Jeremiah King, James Johnson, Martain Binder, John Emley > Signed - Joseph Robins > Rachel Robins > Witnesses - Thomas Stevenson > Jacob Paxson > John Oliver -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2269 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-05 10:39:14 Subject:Ancestry Tree Message: Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree and let the group know their impressions? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2270 Sender:jregar@... Post Date/Time:2018-09-05 10:58:47 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: I need the name of his tree and user name? Jack Regar Daniel ROBINS -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 1:39 pm Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree and let the group know their impressions? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2271 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-09-05 11:10:45 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: Marshal, Iā€™ve done a search on ancestry.com for Daniel Robins born 1666 and received 542 hits in the family files. I tried John Robbins born 1751 New Jersey (son of Jonathan) and received about 20 hits. There were a few Robins trees but not Richard Robbins. I tried Isaac Robbins born about 1698 New Jersey, again no Richard Robbins. Iā€™m guessing Richard is a not a descendant of a Hunterdon County Robbins. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 1:39 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree and let the group know their impressions? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@mlake.net -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2272 Sender:marys616 Post Date/Time:2018-09-05 14:06:52 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: The genealogy of Richard Robbins born 1710 has been a brick wall in trying to relate the Robbinsā€™ from North Carolina to those of New Jersey and Daniel Robbins. My father is a descendent of Richard Robbins and his DNA proved he was related to Daniel Robbins. We just donā€™t know who Richardā€™s parents are. Thanks, Mary Robbins Starkey > On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:10 PM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > Marshal, > > Iā€™ve done a search on ancestry.com for Daniel Robins born 1666 and received 542 hits in the family files. > > I tried John Robbins born 1751 New Jersey (son of Jonathan) and received about 20 hits. There were a few Robins trees but not Richard Robbins. > > I tried Isaac Robbins born about 1698 New Jersey, again no Richard Robbins. > > Iā€™m guessing Richard is a not a descendant of a Hunterdon County Robbins. > > Garry > > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 1:39 PM > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree > > > > Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and > I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which > (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with > complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. > > Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree > and let the group know their impressions? > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2273 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-06 05:56:07 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: Looking back at emails Ronald and I exchanged he called his tree on Ancestry "Robbins Family History Tree". I don't see any reference to a user name. Would "Ronald E. Robbins" be the user name? I'm not familiar with ancestry.com. > Posted by: jregar@... regarjack > Date: Wed Sep 5, 2018 10:58 am ((PDT)) > > > I need the name of his tree and user name? > > Jack Regar > > Daniel ROBINS > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 1:39 pm > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree > > Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and > I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which > (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with > complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. > > Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree > and let the group know their impressions? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2274 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-06 06:03:32 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: Ronald says his 7th-Grandfather is Elisha ROBINS (1704-1759) and is a son of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666). Ronald called his tree on Ancestry "Robbins Family History Tree". Does that give you more to look for on ancestry.com? > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Wed Sep 5, 2018 11:10 am ((PDT)) > > Marshal, > > Iā€™ve done a search on ancestry.com for Daniel Robins born 1666 and received 542 hits in the family files. > > I tried John Robbins born 1751 New Jersey (son of Jonathan) and received about 20 hits. There were a few Robins trees but not Richard Robbins. > > I tried Isaac Robbins born about 1698 New Jersey, again no Richard Robbins. > > Iā€™m guessing Richard is a not a descendant of a Hunterdon County Robbins. > > Garry > > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 1:39 PM > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree > > > Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and > I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which > (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with > complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. > > Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree > and let the group know their impressions? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2275 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-06 06:24:13 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Richard ROBINS (was: Ancestry Tree) Message: The book "Descendants & Ancestors of Daniel Robins & Hope Potter" by Charles W Poley & Gary D Robins in c2004 claims ("but not 100% proven") Richard ROBINS (c1710-c1787 Randolph Co, NC) is a son of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) and Mary ------. I have not seen it, but I believe there is an updated version of this book called "Descendants of Daniel, Hope Potter & William Potter" by Lara Watson Poley (in c2015?) which makes the same assertion. > Posted by: "marys616" marys616@... marystarkey > Date: Wed Sep 5, 2018 2:06 pm ((PDT)) > > The genealogy of Richard Robbins born 1710 has been a brick wall in > trying to relate the Robbinsā€™ from North Carolina to those of New Jersey > and Daniel Robbins. My father is a descendent of Richard Robbins and his > DNA proved he was related to Daniel Robbins. We just donā€™t know who > Richardā€™s parents are. > > Thanks, > Mary Robbins Starkey -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2276 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-09-06 07:09:35 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: Marshall, Iā€™ve searched Elisha Robins born 1704, father Daniel. I got 3 hits, no Robbins Family History Tree. Most family trees for Elisha Robins born 1704 have him born in Wales, a son of Isaac. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 9:03 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Ronald says his 7th-Grandfather is Elisha ROBINS (1704-1759) and is a son of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666). Ronald called his tree on Ancestry "Robbins Family History Tree". Does that give you more to look for on ancestry.com? > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Wed Sep 5, 2018 11:10 am ((PDT)) > > Marshal, > > Iā€™ve done a search on ancestry.com for Daniel Robins born 1666 and received 542 hits in the family files. > > I tried John Robbins born 1751 New Jersey (son of Jonathan) and received about 20 hits. There were a few Robins trees but not Richard Robbins. > > I tried Isaac Robbins born about 1698 New Jersey, again no Richard Robbins. > > Iā€™m guessing Richard is a not a descendant of a Hunterdon County Robbins. > > Garry > > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 1:39 PM > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree > > > Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and > I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which > (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with > complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. > > Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree > and let the group know their impressions? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2277 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-09-06 07:09:35 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: Marshall, Iā€™ve searched Elisha Robins born 1704, father Daniel. I got 3 hits, no Robbins Family History Tree. Most family trees for Elisha Robins born 1704 have him born in Wales, a son of Isaac. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 9:03 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Ronald says his 7th-Grandfather is Elisha ROBINS (1704-1759) and is a son of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666). Ronald called his tree on Ancestry "Robbins Family History Tree". Does that give you more to look for on ancestry.com? > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Wed Sep 5, 2018 11:10 am ((PDT)) > > Marshal, > > Iā€™ve done a search on ancestry.com for Daniel Robins born 1666 and received 542 hits in the family files. > > I tried John Robbins born 1751 New Jersey (son of Jonathan) and received about 20 hits. There were a few Robins trees but not Richard Robbins. > > I tried Isaac Robbins born about 1698 New Jersey, again no Richard Robbins. > > Iā€™m guessing Richard is a not a descendant of a Hunterdon County Robbins. > > Garry > > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 1:39 PM > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree > > > Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and > I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which > (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with > complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. > > Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree > and let the group know their impressions? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2278 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-09-06 07:09:35 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: Marshall, Iā€™ve searched Elisha Robins born 1704, father Daniel. I got 3 hits, no Robbins Family History Tree. Most family trees for Elisha Robins born 1704 have him born in Wales, a son of Isaac. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 9:03 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Ronald says his 7th-Grandfather is Elisha ROBINS (1704-1759) and is a son of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666). Ronald called his tree on Ancestry "Robbins Family History Tree". Does that give you more to look for on ancestry.com? > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Wed Sep 5, 2018 11:10 am ((PDT)) > > Marshal, > > Iā€™ve done a search on ancestry.com for Daniel Robins born 1666 and received 542 hits in the family files. > > I tried John Robbins born 1751 New Jersey (son of Jonathan) and received about 20 hits. There were a few Robins trees but not Richard Robbins. > > I tried Isaac Robbins born about 1698 New Jersey, again no Richard Robbins. > > Iā€™m guessing Richard is a not a descendant of a Hunterdon County Robbins. > > Garry > > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 1:39 PM > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree > > > Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and > I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which > (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with > complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. > > Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree > and let the group know their impressions? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2279 Sender:jregar@... Post Date/Time:2018-09-06 12:36:16 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: Yes, however a user name is good too -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Sent: Thu, Sep 6, 2018 9:13 am Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Ronald says his 7th-Grandfather is Elisha ROBINS (1704-1759) and is a son of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666). Ronald called his tree on Ancestry "Robbins Family History Tree". Does that give you more to look for on ancestry.com? > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Wed Sep 5, 2018 11:10 am ((PDT)) > > Marshal, > > Iā€™ve done a search on ancestry.com for Daniel Robins born 1666 and received 542 hits in the family files. > > I tried John Robbins born 1751 New Jersey (son of Jonathan) and received about 20 hits. There were a few Robins trees but not Richard Robbins. > > I tried Isaac Robbins born about 1698 New Jersey, again no Richard Robbins. > > Iā€™m guessing Richard is a not a descendant of a Hunterdon County Robbins. > > Garry > > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 1:39 PM > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree > > > Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and > I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which > (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with > complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. > > Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree > and let the group know their impressions? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2280 Sender:jregar@... Post Date/Time:2018-09-06 12:40:03 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: Could be, let me look around. Jack -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Sent: Thu, Sep 6, 2018 12:02 pm Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Looking back at emails Ronald and I exchanged he called his tree on Ancestry "Robbins Family History Tree". I don't see any reference to a user name. Would "Ronald E. Robbins" be the user name? I'm not familiar with ancestry.com. > Posted by: jregar@... regarjack > Date: Wed Sep 5, 2018 10:58 am ((PDT)) > > > I need the name of his tree and user name? > > Jack Regar > > Daniel ROBINS > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 1:39 pm > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree > > Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and > I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which > (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with > complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. > > Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree > and let the group know their impressions? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@mlake.net -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2281 Sender:jregar@... Post Date/Time:2018-09-06 12:55:18 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: Found trees (not named the same) "Robbins Family Tree" by Debra Robbins "Robbins Family Tree" by DianeHansen31 "Robbins Family Tree" by speebles63 "Robbins Family Tree" by jpcgrits "Robbins Family Tree" by DSGregg1954 There is over 12 pages (50 trees per page)!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Sent: Thu, Sep 6, 2018 12:02 pm Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Looking back at emails Ronald and I exchanged he called his tree on Ancestry "Robbins Family History Tree". I don't see any reference to a user name. Would "Ronald E. Robbins" be the user name? I'm not familiar with ancestry.com. > Posted by: jregar@... regarjack > Date: Wed Sep 5, 2018 10:58 am ((PDT)) > > > I need the name of his tree and user name? > > Jack Regar > > Daniel ROBINS > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 1:39 pm > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree > > Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and > I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which > (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with > complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. > > Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree > and let the group know their impressions? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2282 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-09-06 15:41:34 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: My guess is it is this user, Ronald Robbins: https://www.ancestry.com/connect/Profile/0089e27b-0003-0000-0000-000000000000 He has 2 trees called "Robbins Family History Tree" One has 5865 people: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/119694639/family The other has 6292: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/117529417/family I can't devote any time to looking at these trees until the weekend. Can someone else with Ancestry access get to them and assess them for Marshall? Tracey On 9/6/2018 2:55 PM, jregar@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Found trees (not named the same) "Robbins Family Tree" by Debra Robbins "Robbins Family Tree" by DianeHansen31 "Robbins Family Tree" by speebles63 "Robbins Family Tree" by jpcgrits "Robbins Family Tree" by DSGregg1954 There is over 12 pages (50 trees per page)!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Sent: Thu, Sep 6, 2018 12:02 pm Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Looking back at emails Ronald and I exchanged he called his tree on Ancestry "Robbins Family History Tree". I don't see any reference to a user name. Would "Ronald E. Robbins" be the user name? I'm not familiar with ancestry.com. > Posted by: jregar@... regarjack > Date: Wed Sep 5, 2018 10:58 am ((PDT)) > > > I need the name of his tree and user name? > > Jack Regar > > Daniel ROBINS > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 1:39 pm > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree > > Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and > I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which > (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with > complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. > > Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree > and let the group know their impressions? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2283 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-09-07 04:48:04 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: Tracey, Congratulations on finding the trees. It appears thereā€™s lots of source material on Daniel Robins born 1666. Iā€™m not the person to analysis it. I checked for information on the Robins/Robbins of Hunterdon County, NJ, which is my interest. The files do not appear to be useful for me. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 6:41 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree My guess is it is this user, Ronald Robbins: https://www.ancestry.com/connect/Profile/0089e27b-0003-0000-0000-000000000000 He has 2 trees called "Robbins Family History Tree" One has 5865 people: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/119694639/family The other has 6292: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/117529417/family I can't devote any time to looking at these trees until the weekend. Can someone else with Ancestry access get to them and assess them for Marshall? Tracey On 9/6/2018 2:55 PM, jregar@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Found trees (not named the same) "Robbins Family Tree" by Debra Robbins "Robbins Family Tree" by DianeHansen31 "Robbins Family Tree" by speebles63 "Robbins Family Tree" by jpcgrits "Robbins Family Tree" by DSGregg1954 There is over 12 pages (50 trees per page)!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List mailto:robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Sep 6, 2018 12:02 pm Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Looking back at emails Ronald and I exchanged he called his tree on Ancestry "Robbins Family History Tree". I don't see any reference to a user name. Would "Ronald E. Robbins" be the user name? I'm not familiar with ancestry.com. > Posted by: jregar@... regarjack > Date: Wed Sep 5, 2018 10:58 am ((PDT)) > > > I need the name of his tree and user name? > > Jack Regar > > Daniel ROBINS > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 1:39 pm > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree > > Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and > I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which > (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with > complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. > > Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree > and let the group know their impressions? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2284 Sender:jregar@... Post Date/Time:2018-09-07 05:43:34 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: OK, I am in the trees, what would you like to have? -----Original Message----- From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] To: robbinsfamilysociety Sent: Thu, Sep 6, 2018 6:41 pm Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree My guess is it is this user, Ronald Robbins: https://www.ancestry.com/connect/Profile/0089e27b-0003-0000-0000-000000000000 He has 2 trees called "Robbins Family History Tree" One has 5865 people: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/119694639/family The other has 6292: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/117529417/family I can't devote any time to looking at these trees until the weekend. Can someone else with Ancestry access get to them and assess them for Marshall? Tracey On 9/6/2018 2:55 PM, jregar@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Found trees (not named the same) "Robbins Family Tree" by Debra Robbins "Robbins Family Tree" by DianeHansen31 "Robbins Family Tree" by speebles63 "Robbins Family Tree" by jpcgrits "Robbins Family Tree" by DSGregg1954 There is over 12 pages (50 trees per page)!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Sent: Thu, Sep 6, 2018 12:02 pm Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Looking back at emails Ronald and I exchanged he called his tree on Ancestry "Robbins Family History Tree". I don't see any reference to a user name. Would "Ronald E. Robbins" be the user name? I'm not familiar with ancestry.com. > Posted by: jregar@... regarjack > Date: Wed Sep 5, 2018 10:58 am ((PDT)) > > > I need the name of his tree and user name? > > Jack Regar > > Daniel ROBINS > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 1:39 pm > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree > > Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and > I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which > (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with > complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. > > Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree > and let the group know their impressions? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2285 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-07 09:24:25 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: The tree(s) purportedly shows all the children for Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with sources. I'm looking for peoples' impressions in that regard. Also, I believe the tree(s) shows Daniel ROBINS' (b 1666) spouse as Mary SHAW with sources. Over the years I've seen lots of suppositions as to the birth name for Mary but never any proofs. Is there any direct evidence for SHAW associated with this/these trees? > Posted by: "Tracey Marcelo" tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx > Date: Thu Sep 6, 2018 3:41 pm ((PDT)) > > > My guess is it is this user, Ronald Robbins: > https://www.ancestry.com/connect/Profile/0089e27b-0003-0000-0000-\ > 000000000000 > -000000000000> > > He has 2 trees called "Robbins Family History Tree" > > One has 5865 people: > https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/119694639/family > > The other has 6292: > https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/117529417/family > > > > I can't devote any time to looking at these trees until the weekend. > > Can someone else with Ancestry access get to them and assess them for > Marshall? > > Tracey -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2286 Sender:jregar@... Post Date/Time:2018-09-07 09:45:26 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: OK, Robbins Family History Tree by Ronald Robbins, has no Daniel Robins/Robbins b: 1666, however, there is a Daniel Potter Robins b: 1666 d: 1763 m/ Mary Shaw-no dates? SOURCES LISTED: Other Sources Colonial Families of USA - 1607 - 1775 Daniel Robins/Robertson, son of Richard Robertson and Mary (maiden name unknown) Book "Descendants of Daniel Robins, Hope Potter & William Potter" -- By Lara Watson Poley Robins Robbins of New Jersey -- Author, Sara Robbins Huffman Family Parents Daniel (Robinson_Robertson) Robins 1627ā€“1714 Hope Potter 1640ā€“1695 Siblings Mary Potter Robins 1664ā€“1714 Lydia Potter Robins 1668ā€“1736 Joseph Potter Robins 1671ā€“1709 Richard Potter Robins 1673ā€“1714 Hope Child Robins 1674ā€“1675 Nathaniel Potter Robins 1676ā€“1714 Moses Potter Robins 1679ā€“1744 Hope Potter Robins 1681ā€“1714 Aaron Potter Robins 1683ā€“1775 Benjamin Potter Robins 1686ā€“1760 Spouse & Children Mary Parker 1672ā€“1692 Daniel Parker Robins 1692ā€“1776 Spouse & Children Mary Shaw Jonathan Robins 1694ā€“1774 John Robins 1696ā€“1775 Isaac Robins 1698ā€“1741 Job Robins 1699ā€“1756 William Robins 1700ā€“1786 Elisha Shaw Robins 1704ā€“1759 Timothy Robins 1705ā€“ Richard Robins 1709ā€“1787 Elizabeth Robins 1713ā€“1748 Ephraim Robins 1717ā€“1808 Deborah Robins 1723ā€“1791 Hannah Robins 1725ā€“ Spouse Frances (Unknown Surname or Maiden Name) ā€“1763 -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Sent: Fri, Sep 7, 2018 12:24 pm Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree The tree(s) purportedly shows all the children for Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with sources. I'm looking for peoples' impressions in that regard. Also, I believe the tree(s) shows Daniel ROBINS' (b 1666) spouse as Mary SHAW with sources. Over the years I've seen lots of suppositions as to the birth name for Mary but never any proofs. Is there any direct evidence for SHAW associated with this/these trees? > Posted by: "Tracey Marcelo" tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx > Date: Thu Sep 6, 2018 3:41 pm ((PDT)) > > > My guess is it is this user, Ronald Robbins: > https://www.ancestry.com/connect/Profile/0089e27b-0003-0000-0000-\ > 000000000000 > -000000000000> > > He has 2 trees called "Robbins Family History Tree" > > One has 5865 people: > https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/119694639/family > ; > The other has 6292: > https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/117529417/family > ; > > > I can't devote any time to looking at these trees until the weekend. > > Can someone else with Ancestry access get to them and assess them for > Marshall? > > Tracey -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@mlake.net -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2287 Sender:Bettylou Steadman Post Date/Time:2018-09-07 11:40:18 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: -----Original Message----- From: "jregar@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" Sent: Sep 7, 2018 5:43 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree OK, I am in the trees, what would you like to have? An apple? LOL. -----Original Message----- From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] To: robbinsfamilysociety Sent: Thu, Sep 6, 2018 6:41 pm Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree My guess is it is this user, Ronald Robbins: https://www.ancestry.com/connect/Profile/0089e27b-0003-0000-0000-000000000000 He has 2 trees called "Robbins Family History Tree" One has 5865 people: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/119694639/family The other has 6292: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/117529417/family I can't devote any time to looking at these trees until the weekend. Can someone else with Ancestry access get to them and assess them for Marshall? Tracey On 9/6/2018 2:55 PM, jregar@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Found trees (not named the same) "Robbins Family Tree" by Debra Robbins "Robbins Family Tree" by DianeHansen31 "Robbins Family Tree" by speebles63 "Robbins Family Tree" by jpcgrits "Robbins Family Tree" by DSGregg1954 There is over 12 pages (50 trees per page)!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Sent: Thu, Sep 6, 2018 12:02 pm Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Looking back at emails Ronald and I exchanged he called his tree on Ancestry "Robbins Family History Tree". I don't see any reference to a user name. Would "Ronald E. Robbins" be the user name? I'm not familiar with ancestry.com. > Posted by: jregar@... regarjack > Date: Wed Sep 5, 2018 10:58 am ((PDT)) > > > I need the name of his tree and user name? > > Jack Regar > > Daniel ROBINS > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 1:39 pm > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree > > Is anyone familiar with Ronald E. Robbins ? He and > I exchanged a few emails recently. He has a tree on Ancestry which > (apparently) shows all the children of Daniel ROBINS (b 1666) with > complete sources. I do not have access to the tree. > > Would anyone here with an Ancestry membership like to check out his tree > and let the group know their impressions? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2288 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-08 07:05:41 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: Thanks very much for your feedback, Jack. It appears the tree relies heavily on the book by Lara Watson Poley, and [hopefully] more direct sources are within that book. > Posted by: jregar@... regarjack > Date: Fri Sep 7, 2018 9:45 am ((PDT)) > > OK, Robbins Family History Tree by Ronald Robbins, has no Daniel > Robins/Robbins b: 1666, however, there is a Daniel Potter Robins b: 1666 > d: 1763 m/ Mary Shaw-no dates? > [snip] -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2289 Sender:jregar@... Post Date/Time:2018-09-08 11:47:29 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Message: Your welcome, my 2nd great grandmother was Rebecca Robbins of Connellsville, Fayette Co., PA., her line went up to Ephraim Robins of Monmouth Co., NJ. Jack -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Lake mlake@mlake.net [robbinsfamilysociety] To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Sent: Sat, Sep 8, 2018 10:12 am Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ancestry Tree Thanks very much for your feedback, Jack. It appears the tree relies heavily on the book by Lara Watson Poley, and [hopefully] more direct sources are within that book. > Posted by: jregar@... regarjack > Date: Fri Sep 7, 2018 9:45 am ((PDT)) > > OK, Robbins Family History Tree by Ronald Robbins, has no Daniel > Robins/Robbins b: 1666, however, there is a Daniel Potter Robins b: 1666 > d: 1763 m/ Mary Shaw-no dates? > [snip] -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2290 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-09 11:38:05 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ephraim ROBINS (was: Ancestry Tree) Message: Ephraim ROBINS (c1708-1759), son of Aaron ? > Posted by: jregar@... regarjack > Date: Sat Sep 8, 2018 11:47 am ((PDT)) > > Your welcome, my 2nd great grandmother was Rebecca Robbins of > Connellsville, Fayette Co., PA., her line went up to Ephraim Robins of > Monmouth Co., NJ. > > Jack -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2291 Sender: Post Date/Time:2018-09-11 16:42:52 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ephraim ROBINS (was: Ancestry Tree) Message: Yes, Aaron Robins 1683 - 1759 -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Sent: Tue, Sep 11, 2018 12:41 pm Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ephraim ROBINS (was: Ancestry Tree) Ephraim ROBINS (c1708-1759), son of Aaron ? > Posted by: jregar@... regarjack > Date: Sat Sep 8, 2018 11:47 am ((PDT)) > > Your welcome, my 2nd great grandmother was Rebecca Robbins of > Connellsville, Fayette Co., PA., her line went up to Ephraim Robins of > Monmouth Co., NJ. > > Jack -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111 -- #yiv0553917111ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111ygrp-mkp #yiv0553917111hd { color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111ygrp-mkp #yiv0553917111ads { margin-bottom:10px;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0 553917111ygrp-mkp .yiv0553917111ad { padding:0 0;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111ygrp-mkp .yiv0553917111ad p { margin:0;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111ygrp-mkp .yiv0553917111ad a { color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} #y iv0553917111 #yiv0553917111ygrp-sponsor #yiv0553917111ygrp-lc { font-family:Arial;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111ygrp-sponsor #yiv0553917111ygrp-lc #yiv0553917111hd { margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-h eight:122%;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111ygrp-sponsor #yiv0553917111ygrp-lc .yiv0553917111ad { margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111actions { font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111activity { background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111activity span { font-weight:700;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111 activity span:first-child { text-transform:uppercase;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111activity span a { color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111activity span span { color:#ff7900;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111activity span .yiv0553917111underline { text-decoration:underline;} #yiv0553917111 .yiv0553917111attach { clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;} #yiv0553917 111 .yiv0553917111attach div a { text-decoration:none;} #yiv0553917111 .yiv0553917111attach img { border:none;padding-right:5px;} #yiv0553917111 .yiv0553917111attach label { display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} #yiv055391 7111 .yiv0553917111attach label a { text-decoration:none;} #yiv0553917111 blockquote { margin:0 0 0 4px;} #yiv0553917111 .yiv0553917111bold { font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;} #yiv0553917111 .yiv0553917 111bold a { text-decoration:none;} #yiv0553917111 dd.yiv0553917111last p a { font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} #yiv0553917111 dd.yiv0553917111last p span { margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} #yi v0553917111 dd.yiv0553917111last p span.yiv0553917111yshortcuts { margin-right:0;} #yiv0553917111 div.yiv0553917111attach-table div div a { text-decoration:none;} #yiv0553917111 div.yiv0553917111attach-table { width:400 px;} #yiv0553917111 div.yiv0553917111file-title a, #yiv0553917111 div.yiv0553917111file-title a:active, #yiv0553917111 div.yiv0553917111file-title a:hover, #yiv0553917111 div.yiv0553917111file-title a:visited { text-de coration:none;} #yiv0553917111 div.yiv0553917111photo-title a, #yiv0553917111 div.yiv0553917111photo-title a:active, #yiv0553917111 div.yiv0553917111photo-title a:hover, #yiv0553917111 div.yiv0553917111photo-title a:vis ited { text-decoration:none;} #yiv0553917111 div#yiv0553917111ygrp-mlmsg #yiv0553917111ygrp-msg p a span.yiv0553917111yshortcuts { font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;} #yiv0553917111 .yiv0553917111gre en { color:#628c2a;} #yiv0553917111 .yiv0553917111MsoNormal { margin:0 0 0 0;} #yiv0553917111 o { font-size:0;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111photos div { float:left;width:72px;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111photos div d iv { border:1px solid #666666;min-height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;} #yiv0553917111 #yiv0553917111photos div label { color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;} # 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Does anyone know who Ellen (ABBOTT) ROBINS was married to? It appears that Ellen's husband was deceased by the time the will was written in 1757, and at a relatively young age since the children are not yet of age. 1757, Nov. 22. Abbott, James, of Amwell, Hunterdon Co., yeoman; will of. Wife, Cathrine, 1-3 of movable estate, while my widow. Son, James, and my youngest son, William, my lands upon which 1 dwell; and they are to pay to my son, Benjamin, Ā£50, and Ā£50 yearly, till Ā£150 are paid. To son, Joseph Abbot, Ā£30. To Martha Skyort, Ā£15, when she is 18; but if she die, then her legacy to be divided between Ellen Robins' children when they come of age. My daughter, Cathrine, rest of movable estate. If any of my daughter Ellen's children, by her former husband, die before they come of age, their part shall be divided among the other two. To my son Job's child, named Job, Ā£10 when he is 21. Executors ā€” Jacob Birdsall and Thomas Whitson, Jr. Witnessesā€” Thomas Sutton, Samuel Bean, Henry Whitson. Proved May 14, 1765. 1765, May 1. Inventory, Ā£24.1.3, made by William Hunt and Richard Reed. 1765, May 13. Renunciation by Thomas Whitson, of Bucks Co., Penna., who declines to act as an executor. 1768, May 4. Account by Jacob Birdsall, sole executor. Lib. 12, p. 214; Lib. 13, p. 438. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2293 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-19 13:03:03 Subject:William ROBINS, bro-in-law of Jonathan PETTIT Message: Does anyone know who this William ROBINS might be ? ... From "Calendar of New Jersey Wills, Administrations, Etc.", Volume IV - 1761-1770, A. Van Doren Honeyman, 1928 1768, Oct. 20. Pettit, Jonathan, of Easton, Northampton Co., Penna., yeoman; will of. My wife, Deborah, and my sons, Nathaniel, Jonathan, Isaac, Andrew, John, and William, and my daughters, Dinah and Elizabeth, shall share equally in my real and personal estate; except that Nathaniel and Dinah, shall have ļæ½20 less each than the rest. My real estate is not to be sold till my youngest child, William, is 21. Executors - wife, Deborah, my brother, Nathaniel Pettit, and my brother-in-law, William Robins. Witnesses - William Ledlie, John Godfrey Enax, Robert Praill. Proved Feb. 4, 1769. 1769, Feb. 4. Renunciation by William Robins. 1768, Nov. 15. Inventory, ļæ½166.19.1, made by Tunis Young and George Geasser. Lib. 13, p. 543. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2294 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-09-19 19:49:51 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ellen ABBOTT, married ------ ROBINS, Amwell Twp Message: Hi, In my files I had Eleanor Abbott as the wife of John Robbins b. 1695 d. 1775. I have no proof. In reading the way James Abbott's will is written in your post, I THINK, it is implying that Ellen Robins had children and some or all of them (who were still under age) were from her FORMER husband--which I take to mean, she was married BEFORE she was married to the Robins. I didn't read it as if a man named Robins was her former husband. It reads to me as if her Robins' husband is the current husband. If she had only one husband and he was dead I think it would say "Ellen Robins' widow of x" and when it mentions her children possibly dying before they come of age, I don't think it would say "by her former husband"... Thoughts? Also an interesting tidbit...Thomas Whitson and Jacob Birdsall were prominent Quakers at Kingwood Monthly Meeting in the 1750s and 1760s. Tracey On 9/19/2018 1:34 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: The following abstract is from "Calendar of New Jersey Wills Volume IV 1761-1770", A Van Doren Honeyman, 1928. Does anyone know who Ellen (ABBOTT) ROBINS was married to? It appears that Ellen's husband was deceased by the time the will was written in 1757, and at a relatively young age since the children are not yet of age. 1757, Nov. 22. Abbott, James, of Amwell, Hunterdon Co., yeoman; will of. Wife, Cathrine, 1-3 of movable estate, while my widow. Son, James, and my youngest son, William, my lands upon which 1 dwell; and they are to pay to my son, Benjamin, Ā£50, and Ā£50 yearly, till Ā£150 are paid. To son, Joseph Abbot, Ā£30. To Martha Skyort, Ā£15, when she is 18; but if she die, then her legacy to be divided between Ellen Robins' children when they come of age. My daughter, Cathrine, rest of movable estate. If any of my daughter Ellen's children, by her former husband, die before they come of age, their part shall be divided among the other two. To my son Job's child, named Job, Ā£10 when he is 21. Executors ā€” Jacob Birdsall and Thomas Whitson, Jr. Witnessesā€” Thomas Sutton, Samuel Bean, Henry Whitson. Proved May 14, 1765. 1765, May 1. Inventory, Ā£24.1.3, made by William Hunt and Richard Reed. 1765, May 13. Renunciation by Thomas Whitson, of Bucks Co., Penna., who declines to act as an executor. 1768, May 4. Account by Jacob Birdsall, sole executor. Lib. 12, p. 214; Lib. 13, p. 438. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2295 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-09-20 02:48:05 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ellen ABBOTT, married ------ ROBINS, Amwell Twp Message: This may mean John Robins was married prior to Ellen. I was thinking previously that the childrenā€™s birthdates were far apart. Ellen had 3 children with her prior husband who were still minors on Nov. 22, 1757. At what age was a child no longer a minor? Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:49 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ellen ABBOTT, married ------ ROBINS, Amwell Twp Hi, In my files I had Eleanor Abbott as the wife of John Robbins b. 1695 d. 1775. I have no proof. In reading the way James Abbott's will is written in your post, I THINK, it is implying that Ellen Robins had children and some or all of them (who were still under age) were from her FORMER husband--which I take to mea n, she was married BEFORE she was married to the Robins. I didn't read it as if a man named Robins was her former husband. It reads to me as if her Robins' husband is the current husband. If she had only one husband and he was dead I think it would say "Ellen Robins' widow of x" and when it mentions her children possibly dying before they come of age, I don't think it would say "by her former husband"... Thoughts? Also an interesting tidbit...Thomas Whitson and Jacob Birdsall were prominent Quakers at Kingwood Monthly Meeting in the 1750s and 1760s. Tracey On 9/19/2018 1:34 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: The following abstract is from "Calendar of New Jersey Wills Volume IV 1761-1770", A Van Doren Honeyman, 1928. Does anyone know who Ellen (ABBOTT) ROBINS was married to? It appears that Ellen's husband was deceased by the time the will was written in 1757, and at a relatively young age since the children are not yet of age. 1757, Nov. 22. Abbott, James, of Amwell, Hunterdon Co., yeoman; will of. Wife, Cathrine, 1-3 of movable estate, while my widow. Son, James, and my youngest son, William, my lands upon which 1 dwell; and they are to pay to my son, Benjamin, Ā£50, and Ā£50 yearly, till Ā£150 are paid. To son, Joseph Abbot, Ā£30. To Martha Skyort, Ā£15, when she is 18; but if she die, then her legacy to be divided between Ellen Robins' children when they come of age. My daughter, Cathrine, rest of movable estate. If any of my daughter Ellen's children, by her former husband, die before they come of age, their part shall be divided among the other two. To my son Job's child, named Job, Ā£10 when he is 21. Executors ā€” Jacob Birdsall and Thomas Whitson, Jr. Witnessesā€” Thomas Sutton, Samuel Bean, Henry Whitson. Proved May 14, 1765. 1765, May 1. Inventory, Ā£24.1.3, made by William Hunt and Richard Reed. 1765, May 13. Renunciation by Thomas Whitson, of Bucks Co., Penna., who declines to act as an executor. 1768, May 4. Account by Jacob Birdsall, sole executor. Lib. 12, p. 214; Lib. 13, p. 438. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2296 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-09-20 02:57:12 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS, bro-in-law of Jonathan PETTIT Message: Marshall, William has been mentioned before. He might be a son of Jonathan born 1694 who died in Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County. William Robbins died in 1811 in Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County. Jonathan Pettit was married to Deborah Robins. William Robbins lived for awhile in Sussex/Warren County. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 4:03 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS, bro-in-law of Jonathan PETTIT Does anyone know who this William ROBINS might be ? ... From "Calendar of New Jersey Wills, Administrations, Etc.", Volume IV - 1761-1770, A. Van Doren Honeyman, 1928 1768, Oct. 20. Pettit, Jonathan, of Easton, Northampton Co., Penna., yeoman; will of. My wife, Deborah, and my sons, Nathaniel, Jonathan, Isaac, Andrew, John, and William, and my daughters, Dinah and Elizabeth, shall share equally in my real and personal estate; except that Nathaniel and Dinah, shall have Ā£20 less each than the rest. My real estate is not to be sold till my youngest child, William, is 21. Executors - wife, Deborah, my brother, Nathaniel Pettit, and my brother-in-law, William Robins. Witnesses - William Ledlie, John Godfrey Enax, Robert Praill. Proved Feb. 4, 1769. 1769, Feb. 4. Renunciation by William Robins. 1768, Nov. 15. Inventory, Ā£166.19.1, made by Tunis Young and George Geasser. Lib. 13, p. 543. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@mlake.net -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2297 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-20 08:02:01 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ellen ABBOTT, married ------ ROBINS, Amwell Twp Message: I think you're right, Tracey, with regard to the "former husband" comment in the abstract meaning Ellen had children by a previous marriage, and ROBINS being her current husband. Here is the will abstract for John ROBINS ... From "Calendar of New Jersey Wills Volume V 1771-1780" by A Van Doren Honeyman in 1931: 1775, June 29. Robins, John, of Amwell, Hunterdon Co.; will of. Wife, Elener Robins, while my widow, the profits of the plantation I live on, and, after her death, to my son, John, he paying to my son, Cornelius, [pounds]50, and to my son, Job, [pounds]100, when 21; but if Job do not live, then to my daughters, Anne Robins, Mary Robins, Elizabeth Woolverton, Hannah Robins, Jane Kitchen, Rachel Reily, Lydia Parlee and Catharine Robins. Executors-son, John, and Daniel Robins. Witnesses-James Furman, Israel Chidster, David Chidister. Proved Sept. 16, 1777. 1777, Sept. 17. Inventory, made by Samuel Furman and John Trimmer. Lib. 19, p. 444. I wonder if all the children named in John's will are by him? In my notes I have a 12th child of John & Elener, Daniel, b 1736, mar Anne ------, d 1802 in Knowlton Twp. I also found ... From Genealogy of NJ Families, Vol II: James Abbit, described as "Jeams Abbett Tanner of Fosters Meddo now resident within ye providence of New York", bought 100 acres in Hempstead, LI from John Jackson, esq under ther date of May 10, 1701. His name appears on Hempstead records up to 1718.The will of Wouter Brown of Hempstead, NY, Jan 20, 1724, names daughter Katherine wife of James Ablit. He was presumably the James Abit of Amwell, Hunterdon Co., whose will November 22, 1757 - May 14, 1765 names wife Catherine and seven children. Children: 1. James. Probably married Mary Maddock of Hunterdon Co. by license of November 15, 1749. 2. Job . Had son Job. 3. Benjamin. Married Mary, daughter of William and Catherine Schnuck (Snook) prior to 1760. 4. Ellen married a ______ Robins. 5. Joseph 6. Catherine 7. William And from the same volume ... James Abit, born about 166_, in Somersetshire, England. Acording to statement by his ggson, John Abbitt, died after 1754 in Huntington, LI, married about 1690 to Martha _____., Decemer 14, 1693, as a resident of Newtown, LI.................... 1. Son James Abbitt, born about 169_, probably at Newtown and died 1765 at Amwell, Hunterdon Co., NJ. Married by 1724 to Cathrine Brown, daughter of Wouter Brown of Hempstead, LI. He sold his Hempstead farm in 1744 and moved to Hunterdon Co., N J. > Posted by: "Tracey Marcelo" tracey.marcelo@... marcelofamilytx > Date: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:49 pm ((PDT)) > > In my files I had Eleanor Abbott as the wife of John Robbins b. 1695 d. > 1775. > > I have no proof. > > In reading the way James Abbott's will is written in your post, I THINK, > it is implying that Ellen Robins had children and some or all of them > (who were still under age) were from her FORMER husband--which I take to > mean, she was married BEFORE she was married to the Robins. I didn't > read it as if a man named Robins was her former husband. It reads to me > as if her Robins' husband is the current husband. > > If she had only one husband and he was dead I think it would say "Ellen > Robins' widow of x" and when it mentions her children possibly dying > before they come of age, I don't think it would say "by her former > husband"... > > Thoughts? > > Also an interesting tidbit...Thomas Whitson and Jacob Birdsall were > prominent Quakers at Kingwood Monthly Meeting in the 1750s and 1760s. > > Tracey > > > On 9/19/2018 1:34 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... > [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > The following abstract is from "Calendar of New Jersey Wills Volume IV > 1761-1770", A Van Doren Honeyman, 1928. > > Does anyone know who Ellen (ABBOTT) ROBINS was married to? It appears > that Ellen's husband was deceased by the time the will was written in > 1757, and at a relatively young age since the children are not yet of > age. > > 1757, Nov. 22. Abbott, James, of Amwell, Hunterdon Co., yeoman; will of. > Wife, Cathrine, 1-3 of movable estate, while my widow. Son, James, and > my youngest son, William, my lands upon which 1 dwell; and they are to > pay to my son, Benjamin, Ā£50, and Ā£50 yearly, till Ā£150 are paid. To > son, Joseph Abbot, Ā£30. To Martha Skyort, Ā£15, when she is 18; but if > she die, then her legacy to be divided between Ellen Robins' children > when they come of age. My daughter, Cathrine, rest of movable estate. If > any of my daughter Ellen's children, by her former husband, die before > they come of age, their part shall be divided among the other two. To my > son Job's child, named Job, Ā£10 when he is 21. Executors ā€” Jacob > Birdsall and Thomas Whitson, Jr. Witnessesā€” Thomas Sutton, Samuel Bean, > Henry Whitson. Proved May 14, 1765. > > 1765, May 1. Inventory, Ā£24.1.3, made by William Hunt and Richard Reed. > > 1765, May 13. Renunciation by Thomas Whitson, of Bucks Co., Penna., who > declines to act as an executor. > > 1768, May 4. Account by Jacob Birdsall, sole executor. Lib. 12, p. 214; > Lib. 13, p. 438. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2298 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-20 08:06:44 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ellen ABBOTT, married ------ ROBINS, Amwell Twp Message: Garry, What tells you "3 children"? Do you know their names? I've never been completely clear on what age constitutes an adult. The best I can gather is 21 for males and 18 for females. Also, it may have been different in different eras. > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:48 am ((PDT)) > > This may mean John Robins was married prior to Ellen. I was thinking > previously that the childrenā€™s birthdates were far apart. > > Ellen had 3 children with her prior husband who were still minors on > Nov. 22, 1757. At what age was a child no longer a minor? > > Garry > > From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:49 PM > To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ellen ABBOTT, married ------ ROBINS, Amwell Twp > > > > Hi, > > In my files I had Eleanor Abbott as the wife of John Robbins b. 1695 d. 1775. > > > I have no proof. > > > In reading the way James Abbott's will is written in your post, I THINK, it is implying that Ellen Robins had children and some or all of them (who were still under age) were from her FORMER husband--which I take to m ean, she was married BEFORE she was married to the Robins. I didn't read it as if a man named Robins was her former husband. It reads to me as if her Robins' husband is the current husband. > > If she had only one husband and he was dead I think it would say "Ellen Robins' widow of x" and when it mentions her children possibly dying before they come of age, I don't think it would say "by her former husband". .. > > > Thoughts? > > Also an interesting tidbit...Thomas Whitson and Jacob Birdsall were prominent Quakers at Kingwood Monthly Meeting in the 1750s and 1760s. > > > Tracey -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2299 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-20 08:08:17 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS, bro-in-law of Jonathan PETTIT Message: Oy yes, I recall now. Thanks, Garry. > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:57 am ((PDT)) > > Marshall, > > William has been mentioned before. > > He might be a son of Jonathan born 1694 who died in Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County. William Robbins died in 1811 in Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County.. > > Jonathan Pettit was married to Deborah Robins. William Robbins lived for awhile in Sussex/Warren County. > > Garry > > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 4:03 PM > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS, bro-in-law of Jonathan PETTIT > > > > Does anyone know who this William ROBINS might be ? ... > >> From "Calendar of New Jersey Wills, Administrations, Etc.", Volume IV - > 1761-1770, A. Van Doren Honeyman, 1928 > > 1768, Oct. 20. Pettit, Jonathan, of Easton, Northampton Co., Penna., > yeoman; will of. My wife, Deborah, and my sons, Nathaniel, Jonathan, > Isaac, Andrew, John, and William, and my daughters, Dinah and Elizabeth, > shall share equally in my real and personal estate; except that > Nathaniel and Dinah, shall have Ā£20 less each than the rest. My real > estate is not to be sold till my youngest child, William, is 21. > Executors - wife, Deborah, my brother, Nathaniel Pettit, and my > brother-in-law, William Robins. Witnesses - William Ledlie, John Godfrey > Enax, Robert Praill. Proved Feb. 4, 1769. > > 1769, Feb. 4. Renunciation by William Robins. > > 1768, Nov. 15. Inventory, Ā£166.19.1, made by Tunis Young and George > Geasser. Lib. 13, p. 543. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2300 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-09-20 10:08:41 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ellen ABBOTT, married ------ ROBINS, Amwell Twp Message: Marshall, From James Abbottā€™s Will: ā€œIf any of my daughter Ellen's children, by her former husband, die before they come of age, their part shall be divided among the other two. ā€œ Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:06 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ellen ABBOTT, married ------ ROBINS, Amwell Twp Garry, What tells you "3 children"? Do you know their names? I've never been completely clear on what age constitutes an adult. The best I can gather is 21 for males and 18 for females. Also, it may have been different in different eras. > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@netflash.net > Date: Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:48 am ((PDT)) > > This may mean John Robins was married prior to Ellen. I was thinking > previously that the childrenā€™s birthdates were far apart. > > Ellen had 3 children with her prior husband who were still minors on > Nov. 22, 1757. At what age was a child no longer a minor? > > Garry > > From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:49 PM > To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ellen ABBOTT, married ------ ROBINS, Amwell Twp > > > > Hi, > > In my files I had Eleanor Abbott as the wife of John Robbins b. 1695 d.. 1775. > > > I have no proof. > > > In reading the way James Abbott's will is written in your post, I THINK, it is implying that Ellen Robins had children and some or all of them (who were still under age) were from her FORMER husband--which I take to m ean, she was married BEFORE she was married to the Robins. I didn't read it as if a man named Robins was her former husband. It reads to me as if her Robins' husband is the current husband. > > If she had only one husband and he was dead I think it would say "Ellen Robins' widow of x" and when it mentions her children possibly dying before they come of age, I don't think it would say "by her former husband". .. > > > Thoughts? > > Also an interesting tidbit...Thomas Whitson and Jacob Birdsall were prominent Quakers at Kingwood Monthly Meeting in the 1750s and 1760s. > > > Tracey -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2301 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-20 10:11:43 Subject:John ROBINS, cont'd Message: In looking for further info pertaining to John ROBINS, spouse of Elener/Ellen ABBOTT, I came across the following. The items do not pertain to this couple but I thought they might be of interest to someone. abstract of obituary from Apollo, Belvidere, NJ, 1 May 1896 John "Robbin" died at his home in Scranton, PA last Friday from cancer 68 years old worked as a carpenter while living in this community (Belvidere, NJ) funeral took place at Buttzville ME Church on Monday buried in adjoining cemetery abstract of will John ROBBINS of Conemaugh Twp, Indiana Co, PA dated 18 Jun 1856 designated a graveyard of 1 acre & 17 ? at Hopewell Meeting House, Blacklick Twp, Indiana Co, PA on land owned by himself 10-12 acres on Blacklick "Creak" "adjoining land sold by me to John Elders" "now accepted by W Good" goes to Good, upon his death going to his grandchildren; the children of Good being James, Ruth, Sonja, John & George names spouse [of John ROBINS] as Mary ------ names children: Daniel, Ezekiel, Elizabeth, Jane (married Crow) names grandaughter: Elizabeth McChesney bequeathed $15 to "child of Henry D. Zeigler to be put into the hands of his grandmother, Mary Robbins" names grandchildren: John & Mary Jane (2 children of Daniel), Elizabeth & Euciline (children of Ezekiel), Jane, Ruth, Sonja & George (children of Elizabeth Good), Elizabeth (child of Ruth Barber), Washington, John, Priscilla, Jane, Caroline, Sarah & Daniel (children of Jane Crow) abstract of death certificate John ROBINS, a farmer died 13 Oct 1897 from paralysis in Wheatland Twp, Hillsdale Co, MI age 89 yr, 9 mo, 5 da widower, married at 39 years old 2 children, both living John ROBINS born in Hunterdon Co, NJ father - Johnathan ROBINS, born in Hunterdon Co, NJ mother - Mary Vosseller, born in Hunterdon Co, NJ buried 16 Oct 1897 in Locust Cemetery I recall us having discussions in the past concerning this Johnathan/Jonathan ROBINS and not being able to connect him. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2302 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-21 07:35:20 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ellen ABBOTT, married ------ ROBINS, Amwell Twp Message: Got it. Thanks, Garry. > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:08 am ((PDT)) > > Marshall, > >> From James Abbottā€™s Will: ā€œIf any of my daughter Ellen's children, by >> her former husband, die before they come of age, their part shall be >> divided among the other two. ā€œ > > Garry > > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:06 AM > To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List > Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Ellen ABBOTT, married ------ ROBINS, Amwell Twp > > > Garry, > > What tells you "3 children"? Do you know their names? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2303 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-22 07:25:55 Subject:John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT, Amwell Twp Message: Does anyone have anything more than what we've already discussed to show the John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT connection? Tracey, in a message from earlier this year you wrote: "William Kitchen of Danville, Montour b. 1789 d. 1857. He was the son of a William Kitchen b. 1753. And was supposedly the grand-son of Henry Kitchen and Jane Robbins. (Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor Abbott of Amwell.)" May I ask what tells Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor Abbott of Amwell? And what does "supposedly" above mean? Thanks. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2304 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-09-22 09:10:03 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT, Amwell Twp Message: Hi, "Supposedly" means that if you search for this family on the Internet LOTS of people show Jane, daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor, as the wife of William Kitchen. I'll look through my notes and see if I have any proof and sources for any of it. They aren't my family so I might not have much! Tracey On 9/22/2018 9:25 AM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: ļæ½ Does anyone have anything more than what we've already discussed to show the John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT connection? Tracey, in a message from earlier this year you wrote: "William Kitchen of Danville, Montour b. 1789 d. 1857. He was the son of a William Kitchen b. 1753. And was supposedly the grand-son of Henry Kitchen and Jane Robbins. (Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor Abbott of Amwell.)" May I ask what tells Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor Abbott of Amwell? And what does "supposedly" above mean? Thanks. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2305 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-09-22 10:03:18 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT, Amwell Twp Message: In 1793, Henry and Jane Kitchen sold their land in Greenwich Township: ' This Indenture, made the 27th day of April, in the year of our Lord 1793, between Henry Kitchen and Jane his Wife, of the Township of Greenwich, C ounty of Sussex and State of New Jersey, of the one part, and John Carpenter...' (Indenture: Henry Kitchen to John Carpenter). Approximately two weeks thereafter, Henry Kitchen purchased a tract of land in Derry Townshi p, Northumberland County, Penn. At this time, or shortly thereafter, Henry and Jane Kitchen and most of their family members removed to Derry Township (later Madison Twp., Columbia Co.) where Henry Sr. soon set about th e founding of a church. He and his wife would have been buried in the churchyard of the old Christ Episcopal Church which was situated on Henry's own land. Henryļæ½s land and the church were located between Jerseytown and Millville. By 1793, there were numerous New Jersey families living in this area, including my Robbinsļæ½ family. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:10 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT, Amwell Twp Hi, "Supposedly" means that if you search for this family on the Internet LOTS of people show Jane, daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor, as the wife of William Kitchen. I'll look through my notes and see if I have any proof and sources for any of it. They aren't my family so I might not have much! Tracey On 9/22/2018 9:25 AM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Does anyone have anything more than what we've already discussed to show the John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT connection? Tracey, in a message from earlier this year you wrote: "William Kitchen of Danville, Montour b. 1789 d. 1857. He was the son of a William Kitchen b. 1753. And was supposedly the grand-son of Henry Kitchen and Jane Robbins. (Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor Abbott of Amwell.)" May I ask what tells Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor Abbott of Amwell? And what does "supposedly" above mean? Thanks. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2306 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-09-22 10:11:47 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT, Amwell Twp Message: Marshall, John Robinsā€™ Will names his daughter Jane Kitchen. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:25 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT, Amwell Twp Does anyone have anything more than what we've already discussed to show the John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT connection? Tracey, in a message from earlier this year you wrote: "William Kitchen of Danville, Montour b. 1789 d. 1857. He was the son of a William Kitchen b. 1753. And was supposedly the grand-son of Henry Kitchen and Jane Robbins. (Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor Abbott of Amwell.)" May I ask what tells Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor Abbott of Amwell? And what does "supposedly" above mean? Thanks. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@mlake.net -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2307 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-09-22 12:24:52 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT, Amwell Twp Message: Hi, I have nothing additional to contribute to what Garry has posted already. Tracey On 9/22/2018 12:11 PM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Marshall, John Robinsā€™ Will names his daughter Jane Kitchen. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:25 AM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT, Amwell Twp Does anyone have anything more than what we've already discussed to show the John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT connection? Tracey, in a message from earlier this year you wrote: "William Kitchen of Danville, Montour b. 1789 d. 1857. He was the son of a William Kitchen b. 1753. And was supposedly the grand-son of Henry Kitchen and Jane Robbins. (Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor Abbott of Amwell.)" May I ask what tells Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor Abbott of Amwell? And what does "supposedly" above mean? Thanks. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2308 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-23 11:34:08 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT, Amwell Twp Message: Thanks, Tracey and Garry!! > Posted by: "Marshall Lake" mlake@... mlake692000 > Date: Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:25 am ((PDT)) > > > Does anyone have anything more than what we've already discussed to show > the John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT connection? > > Tracey, in a message from earlier this year you wrote: "William Kitchen > of Danville, Montour b. 1789 d. 1857. He was the son of a William > Kitchen b. 1753. And was supposedly the grand-son of Henry Kitchen and > Jane Robbins. (Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor Abbott > of Amwell.)" > > May I ask what tells Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor > Abbott of Amwell? And what does "supposedly" above mean? Thanks. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2309 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-09-23 13:01:45 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT, Amwell Twp Message: Marshall, I agree, Tracey is an excellent source person. She finds information that I donā€™t have the smarts to find. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:34 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT, Amwell Twp Thanks, Tracey and Garry!! > Posted by: "Marshall Lake" mlake@... mlake692000 > Date: Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:25 am ((PDT)) > > > Does anyone have anything more than what we've already discussed to show > the John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT connection? > > Tracey, in a message from earlier this year you wrote: "William Kitchen > of Danville, Montour b. 1789 d. 1857. He was the son of a William > Kitchen b. 1753. And was supposedly the grand-son of Henry Kitchen and > Jane Robbins. (Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor Abbott > of Amwell.)" > > May I ask what tells Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor > Abbott of Amwell? And what does "supposedly" above mean? Thanks. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2310 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-09-23 13:03:44 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT, Amwell Twp Message: Aw. Thanks Garry! :-) I do what I can! Tracey On 9/23/2018 3:01 PM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Marshall, I agree, Tracey is an excellent source person. She finds information that I donā€™t have the smarts to find. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:34 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT, Amwell Twp Thanks, Tracey and Garry!! > Posted by: "Marshall Lake" mlake@... mlake692000 > Date: Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:25 am ((PDT)) > > > Does anyone have anything more than what we've already discussed to show > the John ROBINS & Eleanor ABBOTT connection? > > Tracey, in a message from earlier this year you wrote: "William Kitchen > of Danville, Montour b. 1789 d. 1857. He was the son of a William > Kitchen b. 1753. And was supposedly the grand-son of Henry Kitchen and > Jane Robbins. (Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor Abbott > of Amwell.)" > > May I ask what tells Jane was the daughter of John Robbins and Eleanor > Abbott of Amwell? And what does "supposedly" above mean? Thanks. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2311 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-09-26 18:23:09 Subject:Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co Message: Have we ever discussed/determined the parentage of Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 in Hunterdon Co? Daniel's will is dated 9 May 1855 in Bethlehem Twp and proved 12 Jun 1855. In the will he names children: Jonathan (sole executor), Isaac, Daniel I (or J), Mary, Amelia (married to William F FISHER), John W, Annilene (married to Lewis C WINTERS) and Elizabeth (married to Charles PETTY). In 1841 Daniel is living in Bethlehem Twp per the marriage notice for his daughter, Elizabeth. Daniel ROBINS of Alexandria Twp purchased at least one tract of land in Bethlehem Twp from the estate of John HITESMAN in 1837. If this is for the same Daniel then he may have moved from Alexandria Twp to Bethlehem Twp around that time. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2312 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-10-02 10:51:23 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co Message: Marshall, I have Daniel as a son of Jonathan Robbins Jr. who died in 1796 in Alexandria Twp. I donā€™t have proof. From the 1830 census for Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: Robbins, Daniel 1111001-121001 From the 1840 census for Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: Robbins, Daniel 11101001-0012010 From the 1850 census for Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: Robbins, Daniel 53 Farmer NJ Isaac 22 " Daniel 17 " John W. 14 " Mary 20 " Emeline 18 " Emma 1 " The 1830 and 1840 census say that Daniel was born by 1790, while the 1850 census says he was born in 1797. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:23 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co Have we ever discussed/determined the parentage of Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 in Hunterdon Co? Daniel's will is dated 9 May 1855 in Bethlehem Twp and proved 12 Jun 1855. In the will he names children: Jonathan (sole executor), Isaac, Daniel I (or J), Mary, Amelia (married to William F FISHER), John W, Annilene (married to Lewis C WINTERS) and Elizabeth (married to Charles PETTY). In 1841 Daniel is living in Bethlehem Twp per the marriage notice for his daughter, Elizabeth. Daniel ROBINS of Alexandria Twp purchased at least one tract of land in Bethlehem Twp from the estate of John HITESMAN in 1837. If this is for the same Daniel then he may have moved from Alexandria Twp to Bethlehem Twp around that time. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2313 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-10-02 10:51:23 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co Message: Marshall, I have Daniel as a son of Jonathan Robbins Jr. who died in 1796 in Alexandria Twp. I donā€™t have proof. From the 1830 census for Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: Robbins, Daniel 1111001-121001 From the 1840 census for Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: Robbins, Daniel 11101001-0012010 From the 1850 census for Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: Robbins, Daniel 53 Farmer NJ Isaac 22 " Daniel 17 " John W. 14 " Mary 20 " Emeline 18 " Emma 1 " The 1830 and 1840 census say that Daniel was born by 1790, while the 1850 census says he was born in 1797. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:23 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co Have we ever discussed/determined the parentage of Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 in Hunterdon Co? Daniel's will is dated 9 May 1855 in Bethlehem Twp and proved 12 Jun 1855. In the will he names children: Jonathan (sole executor), Isaac, Daniel I (or J), Mary, Amelia (married to William F FISHER), John W, Annilene (married to Lewis C WINTERS) and Elizabeth (married to Charles PETTY). In 1841 Daniel is living in Bethlehem Twp per the marriage notice for his daughter, Elizabeth. Daniel ROBINS of Alexandria Twp purchased at least one tract of land in Bethlehem Twp from the estate of John HITESMAN in 1837. If this is for the same Daniel then he may have moved from Alexandria Twp to Bethlehem Twp around that time. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2314 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-10-03 11:23:27 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co Message: I looked through some old postings and found some pertinent stuff. From (who I believe is/was a member of this list) ... From THE HUNTERDON GAZETTE 1845 - 1856 CD, Jonathan Robins, Executor of the estate of Daniel Robins, offered a private sale of 1) a farm containing 140 acres near the village of Bloomsbury in the Township of Bethlehem, and 2) a timber lot containing 20 acres lying near the public road leading from Bloomsbury to Little York. The article further states "Persons wishing to view the above described property can be shown the same by calling on CHARLES PETTY or ISAAC ROBINS, living on said farm. Indenture (Vol. 113, p. 557-559 Hunterdon County) April 1, 1856 from Jonathan Robins, executing the last will and testament of Daniel Robins, to Richard Petty conveys 150.47 acres on the south side of the road from the Old Hickory Tavern to Bloomsbury with adjoing land owners mentioned as Charles Petty, James Train, Vliet, Kendy, Smith, Taylor, and Hagunaus. From the Records of the Genealogical Society of New Jersey, transcribed by Bruce D. Sinclair, Daniel Robins and his wife, Jane, d. September 15, 1844, aged 52.8.8 are in the Mount Pleasant Cemetery in Alexandria Township, Hunterdon County. Daniel's gravestone reads "our father, d. June 2, 1855, aged 68 years, 9 months and 11 days. And from John Taylor (RIP) back in 2006 ... This Daniel would appear to be from 1-Jonathan and not 1796 Jonathan. He was born about 1785. Note sons names. One deed bounded by Peter Vansyckle and road from Hickory to Bloomsbury. Children's names are in the order mentioned in his will. [E] DANIEL AND MARY ROBINS, BETHLEHEM TOWNSHIP WHO ARE HIS PARENTS? He wed Mary Meyers on 4 Feb 1810 in Sussex County. He was likely born between about 1785 and died in 1855. His 5612J Hunterdon will of 9 May 1855 names Jonathan Robins as executor. They had Alexandria and Bethlehem twp. deeds: Alexandria 1811 deed Book 19 page 338 and 1817 deed Book 27 page 457 [Deed 27-457 was bounded by William Mettler who is on Map C east of Amsterdam] Bethlehem between 1837 and 1852 deed Book 66 pages 278, 279 and 282; Book 75 page 337 and Book 103 page 1. In 1856 his estate sold Alexandria acres per deed Book 113 pages 195 and 197 and 150+ acres in Bethlehem per deed Book 113 page 557. Daniel Robins (c1785-1855) = 2/4/1810) = Mary Meyers (17__-bef 1855) Will 5612J dated 9 May 1855 names children with son Jonathan executor. Wife not named so assumed deceased. Inventory taken 11 June 1855 names Wm Vansyckle as owing $118.43. .Jonathan ROBINS .Isaac ROBINS .Daniel J. ROBINS .Mary ROBINS ---Amelia Robins = = William F. FISHER .John W. ROBINS .Emeline ROBINS = = Lewis C. WINTERS .Elizabeth ROBINS = = Charles PETY Also, from the ROBINS records found by Charles Allen (RIP) there are several mentions of Daniel ROBINS who I believe is the same Daniel (all these records seem to deal with close relatives of Jonathan ROBINS (1742-1815) and his son, Jonathan ROBINS (1793-1872)) ... Daniel ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp, bond (mortgage) dated 4 May 1846 to Henry STOLL of Alexandria Twp, last recorded payment received by Jacob PACE 31 Mar 1855. Will of Daniel ROBINS, dated 9 May 1855, filed 12 Jun 1855. Letter written to Mrs. Charles PETTY from Daniel ROBINS dated 13 May 1836. Receipt of John W ROBBINS dated 2 Feb 1857 to Jonathan ROBBINS, inheritance received from estate of Daniel ROBINS. Deed dated & filed 17 May 1852, Peter R SMITH (adm of estate of Peter PARKER) to Daniel ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp (the land seems to be bordering that of Daniel's). > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Tue Oct 2, 2018 10:57 am ((PDT)) > > Marshall, > > I have Daniel as a son of Jonathan Robbins Jr. who died in 1796 in Alexandria Twp. I donā€™t have proof. > > From the 1830 census for Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: > Robbins, Daniel 1111001-121001 > > From the 1840 census for Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: > Robbins, Daniel 11101001-0012010 > > From the 1850 census for Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: > Robbins, Daniel 53 Farmer NJ > Isaac 22 " > Daniel 17 " > John W. 14 " > Mary 20 " > Emeline 18 " > Emma 1 " > > The 1830 and 1840 census say that Daniel was born by 1790, while the 1850 census says he was born in 1797. > > Garry > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:23 PM > > Daniel's will is dated 9 May 1855 in Bethlehem Twp and proved 12 Jun > 1855. In the will he names children: Jonathan (sole executor), Isaac, > Daniel I (or J), Mary, Amelia (married to William F FISHER), John W, > Annilene (married to Lewis C WINTERS) and Elizabeth (married to Charles > PETTY). > > In 1841 Daniel is living in Bethlehem Twp per the marriage notice for > his daughter, Elizabeth. > > Daniel ROBINS of Alexandria Twp purchased at least one tract of land in > Bethlehem Twp from the estate of John HITESMAN in 1837. If this is for > the same Daniel then he may have moved from Alexandria Twp to Bethlehem > Twp around that time. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2315 Sender:Shirley Hawley Post Date/Time:2018-10-03 11:56:33 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co Message: Hi, Walmart day, Dean will be happy to bring your mail and paper in. Have a happy time n hug your "kids" for me. Sent from my iPad > On Oct 3, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > I looked through some old postings and found some pertinent stuff. > > From (who I believe is/was a member of this list) ... > > From THE HUNTERDON GAZETTE 1845 - 1856 CD, Jonathan Robins, Executor of > the estate of Daniel Robins, offered a private sale of 1) a farm > containing 140 acres near the village of Bloomsbury in the Township of > Bethlehem, and 2) a timber lot containing 20 acres lying near the public > road leading from Bloomsbury to Little York. The article further states > "Persons wishing to view the above described property can be shown the > same by calling on CHARLES PETTY or ISAAC ROBINS, living on said farm. > Indenture (Vol. 113, p. 557-559 Hunterdon County) April 1, 1856 from > Jonathan Robins, executing the last will and testament of Daniel Robins, > to Richard Petty conveys 150.47 acres on the south side of the road from > the Old Hickory Tavern to Bloomsbury with adjoing land owners mentioned as > Charles Petty, James Train, Vliet, Kendy, Smith, Taylor, and Hagunaus. > > From the Records of the Genealogical Society of New Jersey, transcribed by > Bruce D. Sinclair, Daniel Robins and his wife, Jane, d. September 15, > 1844, aged 52.8.8 are in the Mount Pleasant Cemetery in Alexandria > Township, Hunterdon County. Daniel's gravestone reads "our father, d. > June 2, 1855, aged 68 years, 9 months and 11 days. > > And from John Taylor (RIP) back in 2006 ... > > This Daniel would appear to be from 1-Jonathan and not 1796 Jonathan. He > was born about 1785. Note sons names. One deed bounded by Peter Vansyckle > and road from Hickory to Bloomsbury. Children's names are in the order > mentioned in his will. > > [E] DANIEL AND MARY ROBINS, BETHLEHEM TOWNSHIP > WHO ARE HIS PARENTS? He wed Mary Meyers on 4 Feb 1810 in Sussex County. He > was likely born between about 1785 and died in 1855. His 5612J Hunterdon > will of 9 May 1855 names Jonathan Robins as executor. They had Alexandria > and Bethlehem twp. deeds: > Alexandria 1811 deed Book 19 page 338 and 1817 deed Book 27 page 457 [Deed > 27-457 was bounded by William Mettler who is on Map C east of Amsterdam] > Bethlehem between 1837 and 1852 deed Book 66 pages 278, 279 and 282; Book > 75 page 337 and Book 103 page 1. > In 1856 his estate sold Alexandria acres per deed Book 113 pages 195 and > 197 and 150+ acres in Bethlehem per deed Book 113 page 557. Daniel Robins > (c1785-1855) = 2/4/1810) = Mary Meyers (17__-bef 1855) Will 5612J dated 9 > May 1855 names children with son Jonathan executor. Wife not named so > assumed deceased. Inventory taken 11 June 1855 names Wm Vansyckle as owing > $118.43. > ..Jonathan ROBINS > ..Isaac ROBINS > ..Daniel J. ROBINS > ..Mary ROBINS > ---Amelia Robins = = William F. FISHER > ..John W. ROBINS > ..Emeline ROBINS = = Lewis C. WINTERS > ..Elizabeth ROBINS = = Charles PETY > > Also, from the ROBINS records found by Charles Allen (RIP) there are > several mentions of Daniel ROBINS who I believe is the same Daniel (all > these records seem to deal with close relatives of Jonathan ROBINS > (1742-1815) and his son, Jonathan ROBINS (1793-1872)) ... > > Daniel ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp, bond (mortgage) dated 4 May 1846 to Henry > STOLL of Alexandria Twp, last recorded payment received by Jacob PACE 31 > Mar 1855. > > Will of Daniel ROBINS, dated 9 May 1855, filed 12 Jun 1855. > > Letter written to Mrs. Charles PETTY from Daniel ROBINS dated 13 May 1836. > > Receipt of John W ROBBINS dated 2 Feb 1857 to Jonathan ROBBINS, > inheritance received from estate of Daniel ROBINS. > > Deed dated & filed 17 May 1852, Peter R SMITH (adm of estate of Peter > PARKER) to Daniel ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp (the land seems to be bordering > that of Daniel's). > > > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@netflash.net > > Date: Tue Oct 2, 2018 10:57 am ((PDT)) > > > > Marshall, > > > > I have Daniel as a son of Jonathan Robbins Jr. who died in 1796 in Alexandria Twp. I donā€™t have proof. > > > > From the 1830 census for Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: > > Robbins, Daniel 1111001-121001 > > > > From the 1840 census for Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: > > Robbins, Daniel 11101001-0012010 > > > > From the 1850 census for Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: > > Robbins, Daniel 53 Farmer NJ > > Isaac 22 " > > Daniel 17 " > > John W. 14 " > > Mary 20 " > > Emeline 18 " > > Emma 1 " > > > > The 1830 and 1840 census say that Daniel was born by 1790, while the 1850 census says he was born in 1797. > > > > Garry > > > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:23 PM > > > > Daniel's will is dated 9 May 1855 in Bethlehem Twp and proved 12 Jun > > 1855. In the will he names children: Jonathan (sole executor), Isaac, > > Daniel I (or J), Mary, Amelia (married to William F FISHER), John W, > > Annilene (married to Lewis C WINTERS) and Elizabeth (married to Charles > > PETTY). > > > > In 1841 Daniel is living in Bethlehem Twp per the marriage notice for > > his daughter, Elizabeth. > > > > Daniel ROBINS of Alexandria Twp purchased at least one tract of land in > > Bethlehem Twp from the estate of John HITESMAN in 1837. If this is for > > the same Daniel then he may have moved from Alexandria Twp to Bethlehem > > Twp around that time. > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2316 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-10-03 12:03:31 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co Message: Marshall, Danielā€™s wife was Jane who died in 1844. Do you think he was married 1st to Mary Meyers in 1810? I believe Jonathan who died in 1815 to be a son of Isaac of Alexandria Twp. The administrators of Jonathanā€™s estate were Charles born 1788 and Jonathan born 1793. Isaacā€™s son, Jonathan, would have been born later than 1742, more likely 1762. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 2:23 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co I looked through some old postings and found some pertinent stuff. From (who I believe is/was a member of this list) ... From THE HUNTERDON GAZETTE 1845 - 1856 CD, Jonathan Robins, Executor of the estate of Daniel Robins, offered a private sale of 1) a farm containing 140 acres near the village of Bloomsbury in the Township of Bethlehem, and 2) a timber lot containing 20 acres lying near the public road leading from Bloomsbury to Little York. The article further states "Persons wishing to view the above described property can be shown the same by calling on CHARLES PETTY or ISAAC ROBINS, living on said farm. Indenture (Vol. 113, p. 557-559 Hunterdon County) April 1, 1856 from Jonathan Robins, executing the last will and testament of Daniel Robins, to Richard Petty conveys 150.47 acres on the south side of the road from the Old Hickory Tavern to Bloomsbury with adjoing land owners mentioned as Charles Petty, James Train, Vliet, Kendy, Smith, Taylor, and Hagunaus. From the Records of the Genealogical Society of New Jersey, transcribed by Bruce D. Sinclair, Daniel Robins and his wife, Jane, d. September 15, 1844, aged 52.8.8 are in the Mount Pleasant Cemetery in Alexandria Township, Hunterdon County. Daniel's gravestone reads "our father, d. June 2, 1855, aged 68 years, 9 months and 11 days. And from John Taylor (RIP) back in 2006 ... This Daniel would appear to be from 1-Jonathan and not 1796 Jonathan. He was born about 1785. Note sons names. One deed bounded by Peter Vansyckle and road from Hickory to Bloomsbury. Children's names are in the order mentioned in his will. [E] DANIEL AND MARY ROBINS, BETHLEHEM TOWNSHIP WHO ARE HIS PARENTS? He wed Mary Meyers on 4 Feb 1810 in Sussex County. He was likely born between about 1785 and died in 1855. His 5612J Hunterdon will of 9 May 1855 names Jonathan Robins as executor. They had Alexandria and Bethlehem twp. deeds: Alexandria 1811 deed Book 19 page 338 and 1817 deed Book 27 page 457 [Deed 27-457 was bounded by William Mettler who is on Map C east of Amsterdam] Bethlehem between 1837 and 1852 deed Book 66 pages 278, 279 and 282; Book 75 page 337 and Book 103 page 1. In 1856 his estate sold Alexandria acres per deed Book 113 pages 195 and 197 and 150+ acres in Bethlehem per deed Book 113 page 557. Daniel Robins (c1785-1855) = 2/4/1810) = Mary Meyers (17__-bef 1855) Will 5612J dated 9 May 1855 names children with son Jonathan executor. Wife not named so assumed deceased. Inventory taken 11 June 1855 names Wm Vansyckle as owing $118.43. ..Jonathan ROBINS ..Isaac ROBINS ..Daniel J. ROBINS ..Mary ROBINS ---Amelia Robins = = William F. FISHER ..John W. ROBINS ..Emeline ROBINS = = Lewis C. WINTERS ..Elizabeth ROBINS = = Charles PETY Also, from the ROBINS records found by Charles Allen (RIP) there are several mentions of Daniel ROBINS who I believe is the same Daniel (all these records seem to deal with close relatives of Jonathan ROBINS (1742-1815) and his son, Jonathan ROBINS (1793-1872)) ... Daniel ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp, bond (mortgage) dated 4 May 1846 to Henry STOLL of Alexandria Twp, last recorded payment received by Jacob PACE 31 Mar 1855. Will of Daniel ROBINS, dated 9 May 1855, filed 12 Jun 1855. Letter written to Mrs. Charles PETTY from Daniel ROBINS dated 13 May 1836. Receipt of John W ROBBINS dated 2 Feb 1857 to Jonathan ROBBINS, inheritance received from estate of Daniel ROBINS. Deed dated & filed 17 May 1852, Peter R SMITH (adm of estate of Peter PARKER) to Daniel ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp (the land seems to be bordering that of Daniel's). > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Tue Oct 2, 2018 10:57 am ((PDT)) > > Marshall, > > I have Daniel as a son of Jonathan Robbins Jr. who died in 1796 in Alexandria Twp. I donā€™t have proof. > > From the 1830 census for Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: > Robbins, Daniel 1111001-121001 > > From the 1840 census for Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: > Robbins, Daniel 11101001-0012010 > > From the 1850 census for Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: > Robbins, Daniel 53 Farmer NJ > Isaac 22 " > Daniel 17 " > John W. 14 " > Mary 20 " > Emeline 18 " > Emma 1 " > > The 1830 and 1840 census say that Daniel was born by 1790, while the 1850 census says he was born in 1797. > > Garry > From: Marshall Lake mlake@mlake.net [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:23 PM > > Daniel's will is dated 9 May 1855 in Bethlehem Twp and proved 12 Jun > 1855. In the will he names children: Jonathan (sole executor), Isaac, > Daniel I (or J), Mary, Amelia (married to William F FISHER), John W, > Annilene (married to Lewis C WINTERS) and Elizabeth (married to Charles > PETTY). > > In 1841 Daniel is living in Bethlehem Twp per the marriage notice for > his daughter, Elizabeth. > > Daniel ROBINS of Alexandria Twp purchased at least one tract of land in > Bethlehem Twp from the estate of John HITESMAN in 1837. If this is for > the same Daniel then he may have moved from Alexandria Twp to Bethlehem > Twp around that time. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2317 Sender:Tracey Marcelo Post Date/Time:2018-10-03 18:07:33 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co Message: Hi, I believe the Daniel who died in 1855 was the son of: Jonathan Robbins who died in 1796, and his wife Rachel Johnson, who was the daughter of Ralph Johnson. This was the Rachel I tried to figure out back in February/March 2018 and a search of our old emails of that time will mention her. I believe this Daniel, who was born in 1782, had at least 2 brothers: Ralph Robbins b. 1779 (lived in Alexandria twp) John Robbins b. 1784 d. 1866 in Milford, Hunterdon Co. Thoughts? Am I right or wrong? Tracey On 10/3/2018 2:03 PM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Marshall, Danielā€™s wife was Jane who died in 1844. Do you think he was married 1st to Mary Meyers in 1810? I believe Jonathan who died in 1815 to be a son of Isaac of Alexandria Twp. The administrators of Jonathanā€™s estate were Charles born 1788 and Jonathan born 1793. Isaacā€™s son, Jonathan, would have been born later than 1742, more likely 1762. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 2:23 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co I looked through some old postings and found some pertinent stuff. From (who I believe is/was a member of this list) ... From THE HUNTERDON GAZETTE 1845 - 1856 CD, Jonathan Robins, Executor of the estate of Daniel Robins, offered a private sale of 1) a farm containing 140 acres near the village of Bloomsbury in the Township of Bethlehem, and 2) a timber lot containing 20 acres lying near the public road leading from Bloomsbury to Little York. The article further states "Persons wishing to view the above described property can be shown the same by calling on CHARLES PETTY or ISAAC ROBINS, living on said farm. Indenture (Vol. 113, p. 557-559 Hunterdon County) April 1, 1856 from Jonathan Robins, executing the last will and testament of Daniel Robins, to Richard Petty conveys 150.47 acres on the south side of the road from the Old Hickory Tavern to Bloomsbury with adjoing land owners mentioned as Charles Petty, James Train, Vliet, Kendy, Smith, Taylor, and Hagunaus. From the Records of the Genealogical Society of New Jersey, transcribed by Bruce D. Sinclair, Daniel Robins and his wife, Jane, d. September 15, 1844, aged 52.8.8 are in the Mount Pleasant Cemetery in Alexandria Township, Hunterdon County. Daniel's gravestone reads "our father, d. June 2, 1855, aged 68 years, 9 months and 11 days. And from John Taylor (RIP) back in 2006 ... This Daniel would appear to be from 1-Jonathan and not 1796 Jonathan. He was born about 1785. Note sons names. One deed bounded by Peter Vansyckle and road from Hickory to Bloomsbury. Children's names are in the order mentioned in his will. [E] DANIEL AND MARY ROBINS, BETHLEHEM TOWNSHIP WHO ARE HIS PARENTS? He wed Mary Meyers on 4 Feb 1810 in Sussex County. He was likely born between about 1785 and died in 1855. His 5612J Hunterdon will of 9 May 1855 names Jonathan Robins as executor. They had Alexandria and Bethlehem twp. deeds: Alexandria 1811 deed Book 19 page 338 and 1817 deed Book 27 page 457 [Deed 27-457 was bounded by William Mettler who is on Map C east of Amsterdam] Bethlehem between 1837 and 1852 deed Book 66 pages 278, 279 and 282; Book 75 page 337 and Book 103 page 1. In 1856 his estate sold Alexandria acres per deed Book 113 pages 195 and 197 and 150+ acres in Bethlehem per deed Book 113 page 557. Daniel Robins (c1785-1855) = 2/4/1810) = Mary Meyers (17__-bef 1855) Will 5612J dated 9 May 1855 names children with son Jonathan executor. Wife not named so assumed deceased. Inventory taken 11 June 1855 names Wm Vansyckle as owing $118.43. ..Jonathan ROBINS ..Isaac ROBINS ..Daniel J. ROBINS ..Mary ROBINS ---Amelia Robins = = William F. FISHER ..John W. ROBINS ..Emeline ROBINS = = Lewis C. WINTERS ..Elizabeth ROBINS = = Charles PETY Also, from the ROBINS records found by Charles Allen (RIP) there are several mentions of Daniel ROBINS who I believe is the same Daniel (all these records seem to deal with close relatives of Jonathan ROBINS (1742-1815) and his son, Jonathan ROBINS (1793-1872)) ... Daniel ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp, bond (mortgage) dated 4 May 1846 to Henry STOLL of Alexandria Twp, last recorded payment received by Jacob PACE 31 Mar 1855. Will of Daniel ROBINS, dated 9 May 1855, filed 12 Jun 1855. Letter written to Mrs. Charles PETTY from Daniel ROBINS dated 13 May 1836. Receipt of John W ROBBINS dated 2 Feb 1857 to Jonathan ROBBINS, inheritance received from estate of Daniel ROBINS. Deed dated & filed 17 May 1852, Peter R SMITH (adm of estate of Peter PARKER) to Daniel ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp (the land seems to be bordering that of Daniel's). > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Tue Oct 2, 2018 10:57 am ((PDT)) > > Marshall, > > I have Daniel as a son of Jonathan Robbins Jr. who died in 1796 in Alexandria Twp. I donā€™t have proof. > > From the 1830 census for Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: > Robbins, Daniel 1111001-121001 > > From the 1840 census for Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: > Robbins, Daniel 11101001-0012010 > > From the 1850 census for Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: > Robbins, Daniel 53 Farmer NJ > Isaac 22 " > Daniel 17 " > John W. 14 " > Mary 20 " > Emeline 18 " > Emma 1 " > > The 1830 and 1840 census say that Daniel was born by 1790, while the 1850 census says he was born in 1797. > > Garry > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:23 PM > > Daniel's will is dated 9 May 1855 in Bethlehem Twp and proved 12 Jun > 1855. In the will he names children: Jonathan (sole executor), Isaac, > Daniel I (or J), Mary, Amelia (married to William F FISHER), John W, > Annilene (married to Lewis C WINTERS) and Elizabeth (married to Charles > PETTY). > > In 1841 Daniel is living in Bethlehem Twp per the marriage notice for > his daughter, Elizabeth. > > Daniel ROBINS of Alexandria Twp purchased at least one tract of land in > Bethlehem Twp from the estate of John HITESMAN in 1837. If this is for > the same Daniel then he may have moved from Alexandria Twp to Bethlehem > Twp around that time. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2318 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-10-04 03:10:56 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co Message: Hi, I agree. According to the death record given by Marshall, Daniel was born 22 Aug, 1786, if I calculated correctly. Probably, the 1850 census should have said Daniel was 63, not 53, or maybe I copied it wrong. Garry From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 9:07 PM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co Hi, I believe the Daniel who died in 1855 was the son of: Jonathan Robbins who died in 1796, and his wife Rachel Johnson, who was the daughter of Ralph Johnson. This was the Rachel I tried to figure out back in February/March 2018 and a search of our old emails of that time will mention her. I believe this Daniel, who was born in 1782, had at least 2 brothers: Ralph Robbins b. 1779 (lived in Alexandria twp) John Robbins b. 1784 d. 1866 in Milford, Hunterdon Co. Thoughts? Am I right or wrong? Tracey On 10/3/2018 2:03 PM, 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: Marshall, Danielā€™s wife was Jane who died in 1844. Do you think he was married 1st to Mary Meyers in 1810? I believe Jonathan who died in 1815 to be a son of Isaac of Alexandria Twp. The administrators of Jonathanā€™s estate were Charles born 1788 and Jonathan born 1793. Isaacā€™s son, Jonathan, would have been born later th an 1742, more likely 1762. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 2:23 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co I looked through some old postings and found some pertinent stuff. From mailto:cbabooks@... (who I believe is/was a member of this list) ... From THE HUNTERDON GAZETTE 1845 - 1856 CD, Jonathan Robins, Executor of the estate of Daniel Robins, offered a private sale of 1) a farm containing 140 acres near the village of Bloomsbury in the Township of Bethlehem, and 2) a timber lot containing 20 acres lying near the public road leading from Bloomsbury to Little York. The article further states "Persons wishing to view the above described property can be shown the same by calling on CHARLES PETTY or ISAAC ROBINS, living on said farm. Indenture (Vol. 113, p. 557-559 Hunterdon County) April 1, 1856 from Jonathan Robins, executing the last will and testament of Daniel Robins, to Richard Petty conveys 150.47 acres on the south side of the road from the Old Hickory Tavern to Bloomsbury with adjoing land owners mentioned as Charles Petty, James Train, Vliet, Kendy, Smith, Taylor, and Hagunaus. From the Records of the Genealogical Society of New Jersey, transcribed by Bruce D. Sinclair, Daniel Robins and his wife, Jane, d. September 15, 1844, aged 52.8.8 are in the Mount Pleasant Cemetery in Alexandria Township, Hunterdon County. Daniel's gravestone reads "our father, d. June 2, 1855, aged 68 years, 9 months and 11 days. And from John Taylor (RIP) back in 2006 ... This Daniel would appear to be from 1-Jonathan and not 1796 Jonathan. He was born about 1785. Note sons names. One deed bounded by Peter Vansyckle and road from Hickory to Bloomsbury. Children's names are in the order mentioned in his will. [E] DANIEL AND MARY ROBINS, BETHLEHEM TOWNSHIP WHO ARE HIS PARENTS? He wed Mary Meyers on 4 Feb 1810 in Sussex County. He was likely born between about 1785 and died in 1855. His 5612J Hunterdon will of 9 May 1855 names Jonathan Robins as executor. They had Alexandria and Bethlehem twp. deeds: Alexandria 1811 deed Book 19 page 338 and 1817 deed Book 27 page 457 [Deed 27-457 was bounded by William Mettler who is on Map C east of Amsterdam] Bethlehem between 1837 and 1852 deed Book 66 pages 278, 279 and 282; Book 75 page 337 and Book 103 page 1. In 1856 his estate sold Alexandria acres per deed Book 113 pages 195 and 197 and 150+ acres in Bethlehem per deed Book 113 page 557. Daniel Robins (c1785-1855) = 2/4/1810) = Mary Meyers (17__-bef 1855) Will 5612J dated 9 May 1855 names children with son Jonathan executor. Wife not named so assumed deceased. Inventory taken 11 June 1855 names Wm Vansyckle as owing $118.43. ..Jonathan ROBINS ..Isaac ROBINS ..Daniel J. ROBINS ..Mary ROBINS ---Amelia Robins = = William F. FISHER ..John W. ROBINS ..Emeline ROBINS = = Lewis C. WINTERS ..Elizabeth ROBINS = = Charles PETY Also, from the ROBINS records found by Charles Allen (RIP) there are several mentions of Daniel ROBINS who I believe is the same Daniel (all these records seem to deal with close relatives of Jonathan ROBINS (1742-1815) and his son, Jonathan ROBINS (1793-1872)) ... Daniel ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp, bond (mortgage) dated 4 May 1846 to Henry STOLL of Alexandria Twp, last recorded payment received by Jacob PACE 31 Mar 1855. Will of Daniel ROBINS, dated 9 May 1855, filed 12 Jun 1855. Letter written to Mrs. Charles PETTY from Daniel ROBINS dated 13 May 1836. Receipt of John W ROBBINS dated 2 Feb 1857 to Jonathan ROBBINS, inheritance received from estate of Daniel ROBINS. Deed dated & filed 17 May 1852, Peter R SMITH (adm of estate of Peter PARKER) to Daniel ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp (the land seems to be bordering that of Daniel's). > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Tue Oct 2, 2018 10:57 am ((PDT)) > > Marshall, > > I have Daniel as a son of Jonathan Robbins Jr. who died in 1796 in Alexandria Twp. I donā€™t have proof. > > From the 1830 census for Alexandria Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: > Robbins, Daniel 1111001-121001 > > From the 1840 census for Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: > Robbins, Daniel 11101001-0012010 > > From the 1850 census for Bethlehem Twp, Hunterdon County, NJ: > Robbins, Daniel 53 Farmer NJ > Isaac 22 " > Daniel 17 " > John W. 14 " > Mary 20 " > Emeline 18 " > Emma 1 " > > The 1830 and 1840 census say that Daniel was born by 1790, while the 1850 census says he was born in 1797. > > Garry > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:23 PM > > Daniel's will is dated 9 May 1855 in Bethlehem Twp and proved 12 Jun > 1855. In the will he names children: Jonathan (sole executor), Isaac, > Daniel I (or J), Mary, Amelia (married to William F FISHER), John W, > Annilene (married to Lewis C WINTERS) and Elizabeth (married to Charles > PETTY). > > In 1841 Daniel is living in Bethlehem Twp per the marriage notice for > his daughter, Elizabeth. > > Daniel ROBINS of Alexandria Twp purchased at least one tract of land in > Bethlehem Twp from the estate of John HITESMAN in 1837. If this is for > the same Daniel then he may have moved from Alexandria Twp to Bethlehem > Twp around that time. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2319 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-10-04 10:01:07 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co Message: I tend to think that the Daniel ROBINS who John Taylor was referring to is a different Daniel ROBINS than the one who died 1855. Wasn't there a Daniel ROBINS in Sussex Co who was unaccounted for? The Jonathan ROBINS who died 1815 has been a bone of contention in the past. He has been generally considered to be a son of Jonathan ROBINS (1694-1774). His 1742 birthdate comes from Richard L. Godown . I have tried to contact Richard several times with no response. Years ago Charles Allen brought forth a theory on this list that there is a missing generation between Jonathan ROBINS (1742?-1815) and Jonathan ROBINS (1694-1774). He made several good points, but all circumstantial. If it's true that there is a missing generation I believe one of the Jonathan ROBINS who died 1796 is it. I don't believe that Jonathan ROBINS who died 1815 is a son of Isaac ROBINS (c1735-1783). Isaac did indeed have a child named Jonathan (b c1762), but this Jonathan seems to be alive and living in Alexandria Twp after 1815. However, more research is needed. > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Wed Oct 3, 2018 12:03 pm ((PDT)) > > Marshall, > > Danielā€™s wife was Jane who died in 1844. Do you think he was married 1st to Mary Meyers in 1810? > > I believe Jonathan who died in 1815 to be a son of Isaac of Alexandria > Twp. The administrators of Jonathanā€™s estate were Charles born 1788 and > Jonathan born 1793. Isaacā€™s son, Jonathan, would have been born later > than 1742, more likely 1762. > > Garry > From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 2:23 PM > > And from John Taylor (RIP) back in 2006 ... > > This Daniel would appear to be from 1-Jonathan and not 1796 Jonathan. He > was born about 1785. Note sons names. One deed bounded by Peter Vansyckle > and road from Hickory to Bloomsbury. Children's names are in the order > mentioned in his will. > > [E] DANIEL AND MARY ROBINS, BETHLEHEM TOWNSHIP > WHO ARE HIS PARENTS? He wed Mary Meyers on 4 Feb 1810 in Sussex County. He > was likely born between about 1785 and died in 1855. His 5612J Hunterdon > will of 9 May 1855 names Jonathan Robins as executor. They had Alexandria > and Bethlehem twp. deeds: > Alexandria 1811 deed Book 19 page 338 and 1817 deed Book 27 page 457 [Deed > 27-457 was bounded by William Mettler who is on Map C east of Amsterdam] > Bethlehem between 1837 and 1852 deed Book 66 pages 278, 279 and 282; Book > 75 page 337 and Book 103 page 1. > In 1856 his estate sold Alexandria acres per deed Book 113 pages 195 and > 197 and 150+ acres in Bethlehem per deed Book 113 page 557. Daniel Robins > (c1785-1855) = 2/4/1810) = Mary Meyers (17__-bef 1855) Will 5612J dated 9 > May 1855 names children with son Jonathan executor. Wife not named so > assumed deceased. Inventory taken 11 June 1855 names Wm Vansyckle as owing > $118.43. > ...Jonathan ROBINS > ...Isaac ROBINS > ...Daniel J. ROBINS > ...Mary ROBINS > ---Amelia Robins = = William F. FISHER > ...John W. ROBINS > ...Emeline ROBINS = = Lewis C. WINTERS > ...Elizabeth ROBINS = = Charles PETY > > Also, from the ROBINS records found by Charles Allen (RIP) there are > several mentions of Daniel ROBINS who I believe is the same Daniel (all > these records seem to deal with close relatives of Jonathan ROBINS > (1742-1815) and his son, Jonathan ROBINS (1793-1872)) ... -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2320 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-10-04 10:27:28 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co Message: I don't know enough to agree or disagree. We're referring to Jonathan Jr who died 1796 and NOT Jonathan Sr, right? > Posted by: "Garry Heagy" gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Thu Oct 4, 2018 3:11 am ((PDT)) > > Hi, > > I agree. > > According to the death record given by Marshall, Daniel was born 22 Aug, 1786, if I calculated correctly. > > Probably, the 1850 census should have said Daniel was 63, not 53, or maybe I copied it wrong. > > Garry > From: Tracey Marcelo tracey.marcelo@... [robbinsfamilysociety] > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 9:07 PM > To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Daniel ROBINS, d 1855 Hunterdon Co > > Hi, > > I believe the Daniel who died in 1855 was the son of: > Jonathan Robbins who died in 1796, and his wife Rachel Johnson, who was the daughter of Ralph Johnson. > This was the Rachel I tried to figure out back in February/March 2018 and a search of our old emails of that time will mention her. > > > I believe this Daniel, who was born in 1782, had at least 2 brothers: > Ralph Robbins b. 1779 (lived in Alexandria twp) > John Robbins b. 1784 d. 1866 in Milford, Hunterdon Co. > > Thoughts? Am I right or wrong? > > > Tracey -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2321 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-10-14 15:08:54 Subject:William ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp Message: In "Some Records of Old Hunterdon County 1701-1838" by Phyllis B D'Autrechy in 1979 (Volume I of Special Deeds) there's the following ... page 207 quote Power of attorney dated 10 Apr 1813 from Elizabeth Evelane (Evland) of Laudoun [sic] Co, VA to John Wilson of the same in regard to the estate of her father, Wm. Robbins, dec'd of Bethlehem. Wit: Robt. Braden, JP. 6 May 1815. unquote page 209 quote Power of attorney dated 2 Sep 1812 from Robert Wilson and Mary, his wife of Colrain Twp, Blumont Co, OH to our son, John Wilson regarding our share of the estate of Wm. Robbins, father of Mary Wilson, formerly Mary Robbins. Wit: Sterling Johnston and Josiah Hedges. 6 May 1815. unquote page 223 quote Power of attorney dated 5 & 10 Jan 1814 from Daniel Willever and Charity, his wife; Valentine Christian and Rebekah, his wife; of Derry Twp, Columbia Co, PA; Herman Kline and Diana, his wife of Greenwood twp, Columbia Co, PA; Danil [sic] Robins and Catharine (Caty) his wife; John Robins and Mary, his wife of Sugar Loaf Twp, Columbia Co, PA to our brothers and brothers-in-law, Thomas Robins of Fishing Creek twp and Jonathan Robins of Greenwood Twp of the County and State aforesaid regarding the estate of William Robins, dec'd of Bethlehem and father to Charity Willever, Rebecca Christian, Diana Kline, all formerly Robins, and Daniel Robins and Jonathan Robins, all heirs-at-law. Also signed by Tamer and Elizabeth Robins. Wit: Sarah Swisher, Catherine Swisher, George Kline and Elizabeth Bellis. 18 Apr 1815. unquote The thinking in this group seems to be that the record on page 223 is referring to William ROBINS who died in 1811 in Bethlehem Twp. Do you feel that the other two records are referring to the same William ROBINS? Are there three different records because there are three different locations ... Loudoun Co, VA, Blumont (Belmont?) Co, OH & Columbia Co, PA? Surely the first two records are referring to the same William ROBINS since seemingly the same person is receiving the POA in both cases. Is there a separate record which names the children of William ROBINS who died in 1811? How do we know that this William ROBINS isn't the William who is the son of Vincent ROBINS & Ann KITCHEN? What do we know about William, son of Vincent ROBINS? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2322 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-10-15 02:47:53 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp Message: Marshall, From the Daniel Robins book: William ROBINS ( -1811)= =Mary Deed [24-355]names wife Mary and 4 May 1815 deed [24-126] names their children, spouses and where they lived. The 1815 Bethlehem township property estate deeds were [24-126, 10 acres], [24-351, 124+ acres] and [24-354, 51+ acres]. Jonathan Robins who married Ann Kitchen was probably not born before 1720. On Oct 29, 1757, all of Jonathanā€™s children were not yet of age. William was Jonathanā€™s 4th named child. William ( ā€“ 1811) had his first chid Elizabeth born 1753, which means he was probably born by about 1730. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 6:08 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp In "Some Records of Old Hunterdon County 1701-1838" by Phyllis B D'Autrechy in 1979 (Volume I of Special Deeds) there's the following ... page 207 quote Power of attorney dated 10 Apr 1813 from Elizabeth Evelane (Evland) of Laudoun [sic] Co, VA to John Wilson of the same in regard to the estate of her father, Wm. Robbins, dec'd of Bethlehem. Wit: Robt. Braden, JP. 6 May 1815. unquote page 209 quote Power of attorney dated 2 Sep 1812 from Robert Wilson and Mary, his wife of Colrain Twp, Blumont Co, OH to our son, John Wilson regarding our share of the estate of Wm. Robbins, father of Mary Wilson, formerly Mary Robbins. Wit: Sterling Johnston and Josiah Hedges. 6 May 1815. unquote page 223 quote Power of attorney dated 5 & 10 Jan 1814 from Daniel Willever and Charity, his wife; Valentine Christian and Rebekah, his wife; of Derry Twp, Columbia Co, PA; Herman Kline and Diana, his wife of Greenwood twp, Columbia Co, PA; Danil [sic] Robins and Catharine (Caty) his wife; John Robins and Mary, his wife of Sugar Loaf Twp, Columbia Co, PA to our brothers and brothers-in-law, Thomas Robins of Fishing Creek twp and Jonathan Robins of Greenwood Twp of the County and State aforesaid regarding the estate of William Robins, dec'd of Bethlehem and father to Charity Willever, Rebecca Christian, Diana Kline, all formerly Robins, and Daniel Robins and Jonathan Robins, all heirs-at-law. Also signed by Tamer and Elizabeth Robins. Wit: Sarah Swisher, Catherine Swisher, George Kline and Elizabeth Bellis. 18 Apr 1815. unquote The thinking in this group seems to be that the record on page 223 is referring to William ROBINS who died in 1811 in Bethlehem Twp. Do you feel that the other two records are referring to the same William ROBINS? Are there three different records because there are three different locations ... Loudoun Co, VA, Blumont (Belmont?) Co, OH & Columbia Co, PA? Surely the first two records are referring to the same William ROBINS since seemingly the same person is receiving the POA in both cases. Is there a separate record which names the children of William ROBINS who died in 1811? How do we know that this William ROBINS isn't the William who is the son of Vincent ROBINS & Ann KITCHEN? What do we know about William, son of Vincent ROBINS? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2323 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-10-15 03:07:18 Subject:Re: [BULK] Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp Message: Marshall, Iā€™ve just realized I made a mistake. ā€œJonathanā€ below should be ā€œVincentā€ who you mentioned. Jonathan came into my thinking because heā€™s my probably father of William ( ā€“ 1811). Garry From: 'Garry Heagy' gheagy@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 5:47 AM To: robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BULK] Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp Marshall, From the Daniel Robins book: William ROBINS ( -1811)= =Mary Deed [24-355]names wife Mary and 4 May 1815 deed [24-126] names their children, spouses and where they lived. The 1815 Bethlehem township property estate deeds were [24-126, 10 acres], [24-351, 124+ acres] and [24-354, 51+ acres]. Jonathan Robins who married Ann Kitchen was probably not born before 1720. On Oct 29, 1757, all of Jonathanā€™s children were not yet of age. William was Jonathanā€™s 4th named child. William ( ā€“ 1811) had his first chid Elizabeth born 1753, which means he was probably born by about 1730. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 6:08 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp In "Some Records of Old Hunterdon County 1701-1838" by Phyllis B D'Autrechy in 1979 (Volume I of Special Deeds) there's the following .... page 207 quote Power of attorney dated 10 Apr 1813 from Elizabeth Evelane (Evland) of Laudoun [sic] Co, VA to John Wilson of the same in regard to the estate of her father, Wm. Robbins, dec'd of Bethlehem. Wit: Robt. Braden, JP. 6 May 1815. unquote page 209 quote Power of attorney dated 2 Sep 1812 from Robert Wilson and Mary, his wife of Colrain Twp, Blumont Co, OH to our son, John Wilson regarding our share of the estate of Wm. Robbins, father of Mary Wilson, formerly Mary Robbins. Wit: Sterling Johnston and Josiah Hedges. 6 May 1815. unquote page 223 quote Power of attorney dated 5 & 10 Jan 1814 from Daniel Willever and Charity, his wife; Valentine Christian and Rebekah, his wife; of Derry Twp, Columbia Co, PA; Herman Kline and Diana, his wife of Greenwood twp, Columbia Co, PA; Danil [sic] Robins and Catharine (Caty) his wife; John Robins and Mary, his wife of Sugar Loaf Twp, Columbia Co, PA to our brothers and brothers-in-law, Thomas Robins of Fishing Creek twp and Jonathan Robins of Greenwood Twp of the County and State aforesaid regarding the estate of William Robins, dec'd of Bethlehem and father to Charity Willever, Rebecca Christian, Diana Kline, all formerly Robins, and Daniel Robins and Jonathan Robins, all heirs-at-law. Also signed by Tamer and Elizabeth Robins. Wit: Sarah Swisher, Catherine Swisher, George Kline and Elizabeth Bellis. 18 Apr 1815. unquote The thinking in this group seems to be that the record on page 223 is referring to William ROBINS who died in 1811 in Bethlehem Twp. Do you feel that the other two records are referring to the same William ROBINS? Are there three different records because there are three different locations ... Loudoun Co, VA, Blumont (Belmont?) Co, OH & Columbia Co, PA? Surely the first two records are referring to the same William ROBINS since seemingly the same person is receiving the POA in both cases. Is there a separate record which names the children of William ROBINS who died in 1811? How do we know that this William ROBINS isn't the William who is the son of Vincent ROBINS & Ann KITCHEN? What do we know about William, son of Vincent ROBINS? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@mlake.net -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2324 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-10-15 11:58:20 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William ROBINS of Bethlehem Twp Message: Shortly after posting this I determined that all three records are referring to the same William ROBINS, and definitely NOT the William who was the son of Vincent ROBINS. Thanks for your response, Garry. > Posted by: "Marshall Lake" mlake@... mlake692000 > Date: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:08 pm ((PDT)) > > > In "Some Records of Old Hunterdon County 1701-1838" by Phyllis B > D'Autrechy in 1979 (Volume I of Special Deeds) there's the following ... > > page 207 > > quote > > Power of attorney dated 10 Apr 1813 from Elizabeth Evelane (Evland) of > Laudoun [sic] Co, VA to John Wilson of the same in regard to the estate of > her father, Wm. Robbins, dec'd of Bethlehem. Wit: Robt. Braden, JP. 6 > May 1815. > > unquote > > > page 209 > > quote > > Power of attorney dated 2 Sep 1812 from Robert Wilson and Mary, his wife > of Colrain Twp, Blumont Co, OH to our son, John Wilson regarding our share > of the estate of Wm. Robbins, father of Mary Wilson, formerly Mary > Robbins. Wit: Sterling Johnston and Josiah Hedges. 6 May 1815. > > unquote > > > page 223 > > quote > > Power of attorney dated 5 & 10 Jan 1814 from Daniel Willever and Charity, > his wife; Valentine Christian and Rebekah, his wife; of Derry Twp, > Columbia Co, PA; Herman Kline and Diana, his wife of Greenwood twp, > Columbia Co, PA; Danil [sic] Robins and Catharine (Caty) his wife; John > Robins and Mary, his wife of Sugar Loaf Twp, Columbia Co, PA to our > brothers and brothers-in-law, Thomas Robins of Fishing Creek twp and > Jonathan Robins of Greenwood Twp of the County and State aforesaid > regarding the estate of William Robins, dec'd of Bethlehem and father to > Charity Willever, Rebecca Christian, Diana Kline, all formerly Robins, and > Daniel Robins and Jonathan Robins, all heirs-at-law. Also signed by Tamer > and Elizabeth Robins. Wit: Sarah Swisher, Catherine Swisher, George Kline > and Elizabeth Bellis. 18 Apr 1815. > > unquote > > > The thinking in this group seems to be that the record on page 223 is > referring to William ROBINS who died in 1811 in Bethlehem Twp. Do you > feel that the other two records are referring to the same William ROBINS? > > Are there three different records because there are three different > locations ... Loudoun Co, VA, Blumont (Belmont?) Co, OH & Columbia Co, PA? > > Surely the first two records are referring to the same William ROBINS > since seemingly the same person is receiving the POA in both cases. > > Is there a separate record which names the children of William ROBINS who > died in 1811? > > How do we know that this William ROBINS isn't the William who is the son > of Vincent ROBINS & Ann KITCHEN? What do we know about William, son of > Vincent ROBINS? > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2325 Sender:gheagy@... Post Date/Time:2018-10-17 05:40:04 Subject:Robbins Columbia County, PA Message: Cindy Kutz is still not able to post messages to this forum. This is her information: This William Robins could be my line, but I am not sure how he fits in. I think my Robbins lived in either Greenwood or Fishing Creek, Columbia Co, PA, before relocating to New Albany, Franklin, Ohio. Anyone else share this ancestry? *Thomas H Robbins (my 4th GGF), b. 1760, Hunterdon, NJ; d. 1838 Columbia, PA Marries Elizabeth Kline, b. 1761, d. 1831 Children: Charity, b. 1782, NJ Mercy, b. 1785, Northumberland Co, PA William, B. abt 1787, PA; d.1867 Abraham, b. 1789 Thomas, Jr., b. 1791; d. 1857 Mathias, b. abt 1793 Daniel, b. 1795; d. 1879 *John, b.. abt 1801, Northumberla nd Co (now Columbia), PA; d. 1884, New Albany, Franklin, Ohio Isaac, B. 1805 - - - - - *John Robbins (my 3rd GGF) marries (1) Mary Lehman (2) Catharine LNU Children: Charity Ann, b. 1826, New Albany, Franklin, Ohio, d. 1904 Franklin Co, Ohio *James D. (2nd GGF), b. 1829;d. 1908, Franklin Co, Ohio Anna, b. abt 1831, New Albany, Ohio Margaret, b. abt 1832, New Albany, Ohio David D., b. 1834, New Albany, Ohio; d. 1919, Franklin Co, Ohio Wesley R., b. 1840 Columbia, PA; d. 1916, Nebraska Milligan, b. 1843, New Albany, Ohio; d. 1866, Franklin Co, Ohio Daniel, b. 1844, New Albany, Ohio; d. 1933, Frankl in Co, Ohio Lewis, b. abt 1847, New Albany, Ohio; d. 1867, Franklin Co, Ohio Harriet, b. abt 1854 - - - - Cindy Kutz ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2326 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-10-17 11:08:23 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robbins Columbia County, PA Message: Cindy should take a look at https://www.facebook.com/notes/robbins-moore-family-history/the-robbins-family/871878486278924/ and she should contact Jim Robbins . (Jim is the author of the above Web page.) Thomas H ROBBINS (1760-1838) looks to be the son of William ROBINS (1724-1811). Many of us believe this William to be the son of Jonathan ROBINS (1694-1774) but there's no proof positive yet. Does Cindy know any proven male descendants of Thomas H ROBBINS (1760-1838) with the ROBBINS surname who could submit a DNA sample for a Y-DNA test? > Posted by: gheagy@... gheagy@... > Date: Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:44 am ((PDT)) > > Cindy Kutz is still not able to post messages to this forum. This is her information: > > This William Robins could be my line, but I am not sure how he fits in. > I think my Robbins lived in either Greenwood or Fishing Creek, Columbia > Co, PA, before relocating to New Albany, Franklin, Ohio. Anyone else > share this ancestry? > > *Thomas H Robbins (my 4th GGF), b. 1760, Hunterdon, NJ; d. 1838 Columbia, PA > Marries Elizabeth Kline, b. 1761, d. 1831 > > Children: > > Charity, b. 1782, NJ Mercy, b. 1785, Northumberland Co, PA William, B. > abt 1787, PA; d.1867 Abraham, b. 1789 Thomas, Jr., b. 1791; d. 1857 > Mathias, b. abt 1793 Daniel, b. 1795; d. 1879 *John, b.. abt 1801, > Northumberland Co (now Columbia), PA; d. 1884, New Albany, Franklin, > Ohio Isaac, B. 1805 - - - - - > > *John Robbins (my 3rd GGF) marries (1) Mary Lehman (2) Catharine LNU > > Children: > > Charity Ann, b. 1826, New Albany, Franklin, Ohio, d. 1904 Franklin Co, > Ohio *James D. (2nd GGF), b. 1829;d. 1908, Franklin Co, Ohio Anna, b. > abt 1831, New Albany, Ohio Margaret, b. abt 1832, New Albany, Ohio David > D., b. 1834, New Albany, Ohio; d. 1919, Franklin Co, Ohio Wesley R., b. > 1840 Columbia, PA; d. 1916, Nebraska Milligan, b. 1843, New Albany, > Ohio; d. 1866, Franklin Co, Ohio Daniel, b. 1844, New Albany, Ohio; d. > 1933, Franklin Co, Ohio Lewis, b. abt 1847, New Albany, Ohio; d. 1867, > Franklin Co, Ohio Harriet, b. abt 1854 -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2327 Sender:"Garry Heagy" Post Date/Time:2018-10-17 12:05:27 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robbins Columbia County, PA Message: Marshall, I think Cindy can see the posts but canā€™t make one. Garry From: Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 2:08 PM To: ROBINS/ROBBINS Family Society Mailing List Subject: Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robbins Columbia County, PA Cindy should take a look at https://www.facebook.com/notes/robbins-moore-family-history/the-robbins-family/871878486278924/ and she should contact Jim Robbins . (Jim is the author of the above Web page.) Thomas H ROBBINS (1760-1838) looks to be the son of William ROBINS (1724-1811). Many of us believe this William to be the son of Jonathan ROBINS (1694-1774) but there's no proof positive yet. Does Cindy know any proven male descendants of Thomas H ROBBINS (1760-1838) with the ROBBINS surname who could submit a DNA sample for a Y-DNA test? > Posted by: gheagy@netflash.net gheagy@... > Date: Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:44 am ((PDT)) > > Cindy Kutz is still not able to post messages to this forum. This is her information: > > This William Robins could be my line, but I am not sure how he fits in. > I think my Robbins lived in either Greenwood or Fishing Creek, Columbia > Co, PA, before relocating to New Albany, Franklin, Ohio. Anyone else > share this ancestry? > > *Thomas H Robbins (my 4th GGF), b. 1760, Hunterdon, NJ; d. 1838 Columbia, PA > Marries Elizabeth Kline, b. 1761, d. 1831 > > Children: > > Charity, b. 1782, NJ Mercy, b. 1785, Northumberland Co, PA William, B. > abt 1787, PA; d.1867 Abraham, b. 1789 Thomas, Jr., b. 1791; d. 1857 > Mathias, b. abt 1793 Daniel, b. 1795; d. 1879 *John, b.. abt 1801, > Northumberland Co (now Columbia), PA; d. 1884, New Albany, Franklin, > Ohio Isaac, B. 1805 - - - - - > > *John Robbins (my 3rd GGF) marries (1) Mary Lehman (2) Catharine LNU > > Children: > > Charity Ann, b. 1826, New Albany, Franklin, Ohio, d. 1904 Franklin Co, > Ohio *James D. (2nd GGF), b. 1829;d. 1908, Franklin Co, Ohio Anna, b. > abt 1831, New Albany, Ohio Margaret, b. abt 1832, New Albany, Ohio David > D., b. 1834, New Albany, Ohio; d. 1919, Franklin Co, Ohio Wesley R., b. > 1840 Columbia, PA; d. 1916, Nebraska Milligan, b. 1843, New Albany, > Ohio; d. 1866, Franklin Co, Ohio Daniel, b. 1844, New Albany, Ohio; d. > 1933, Franklin Co, Ohio Lewis, b. abt 1847, New Albany, Ohio; d. 1867, > Franklin Co, Ohio Harriet, b. abt 1854 -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2328 Sender:genilady@... Post Date/Time:2018-10-18 13:55:07 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robbins Columbia County, PA Message: (Replying via web post) Thanks for the link, Marshall. I may have seen that before, but studied it more closely this time. That is indeed my line and I have emailed Jim. Which Y-DNA test would be helpful and what is the approximate cost? My son is a 5th great grandson. Is that too many generations back? Cindy Kutz ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2329 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-10-19 09:23:01 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robbins Columbia County, PA Message: The test you need is called the Y-DNA test. Y-DNA is passed only along the male line, so the person supplying the DNA sample needs to be a male with the ROBINS/ROBBINS surname. There is a ROBINS/ROBBINS DNA Project at https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Robbins Unfortunately the Y-DNA test is not cheap. A 37-marker test is $169, and more markers cost more. 37 markers should be enough to tell you what you need to know, but more markers are better. If you join the ROBBINS DNA Project above and then order a Y-DNA test through the group you may get a discount. (A person used to get a discount. I don't know if that is still in effect.) Also, there are times during the year when familytreedna.com (ftdna) offers sales. For Y-DNA tests they have offered sales around Fathers' Day in the past. After getting the results of your Y-DNA test you can compare them to https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Robins?iframe=yresults to see where you fit in. > Posted by: genilady@... ckutz@... > Date: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:55 pm ((PDT)) > > (Replying via web post) Thanks for the link, Marshall. I may have seen > that before, but studied it more closely this time. That is indeed my > line and I have emailed Jim. Which Y-DNA test would be helpful and what > is the approximate cost? My son is a 5th great grandson. Is that too > many generations back? > > Cindy Kutz -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2330 Sender:Bob Robins Post Date/Time:2018-10-19 10:25:17 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robbins Columbia County, PA Message: If it runs anything like last year there will be a big FTDNA sale on Y DNA tests starting around Thanksgiving through Christmas. I am one of the admins for the Robbins DNA project - I think there might be some sort of discount for ordering through the project but I would have to check with our other admin as I haven't run across an order like tha t yet. Y37 is a reasonable starting point but Y67 would be better if you can afford it. BTW my Robins ancestry is from Northumberland County PA (Sunbury circa 1780) though as far as I can tell not directly related to the Fishing Creek Robins. ā£Bob Robins Silver Spring, MDā€‹ On Oct 19, 2018, 1:11 PM, at 1:11 PM, "Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: > >The test you need is called the Y-DNA test. Y-DNA is passed only along > >the male line, so the person supplying the DNA sample needs to be a >male >with the ROBINS/ROBBINS surname. > >There is a ROBINS/ROBBINS DNA Project at >https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Robbins > >Unfortunately the Y-DNA test is not cheap. A 37-marker test is $169, >and >more markers cost more. 37 markers should be enough to tell you what >you >need to know, but more markers are better. If you join the ROBBINS DNA > >Project above and then order a Y-DNA test through the group you may get >a >discount. (A person used to get a discount. I don't know if that is >still in effect.) Also, there are times during the year when >familytreedna.com (ftdna) offers sales. For Y-DNA tests they have >offered >sales around Fathers' Day in the past. > >After getting the results of your Y-DNA test you can compare them to >https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Robins?iframe=yresults >to see where you fit in. > > > >> Posted by: genilady@... ckutz@... >> Date: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:55 pm ((PDT)) >> >> (Replying via web post) Thanks for the link, Marshall. I may have >seen >> that before, but studied it more closely this time. That is indeed my > >> line and I have emailed Jim. Which Y-DNA test would be helpful and >what >> is the approximate cost? My son is a 5th great grandson. Is that too >> many generations back? >> >> Cindy Kutz > >-- >Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2331 Sender:Dorman Nelson Post Date/Time:2018-10-19 14:22:12 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robbins Columbia County, PA Message: Howdy Bob, I have a lock of hair of Liver Eating Johnston .... he is the grandson of Dinah Robbins. What would I need to DNA Johnstonā€™s relationship? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 19, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Bob Robins bob@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > If it runs anything like last year there will be a big FTDNA sale on Y DNA tests starting around Thanksgiving through Christmas. > > I am one of the admins for the Robbins DNA project - I think there might be some sort of discount for ordering through the project but I would have to check with our other admin as I haven't run across an order like t hat yet. Y37 is a reasonable starting point but Y67 would be better if you can afford it. > > BTW my Robins ancestry is from Northumberland County PA (Sunbury circa 1780) though as far as I can tell not directly related to the Fishing Creek Robins. > > Bob Robins > Silver Spring, MD >> On Oct 19, 2018, at 1:11 PM, "Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: >> >> >> The test you need is called the Y-DNA test. Y-DNA is passed only along >> the male line, so the person supplying the DNA sample needs to be a male >> with the ROBINS/ROBBINS surname. >> >> There is a ROBINS/ROBBINS DNA Project at >> https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Robbins >> >> Unfortunately the Y-DNA test is not cheap. A 37-marker test is $169, and >> more markers cost more. 37 markers should be enough to tell you what you >> need to know, but more markers are better. If you join the ROBBINS DNA >> Project above and then order a Y-DNA test through the group you may get a >> discount. (A person used to get a discount. I don't know if that is >> still in effect.) Also, there are times during the year when >> familytreedna.com (ftdna) offers sales. For Y-DNA tests they have offered >> sales around Fathers' Day in the past. >> >> After getting the results of your Y-DNA test you can compare them to >> https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Robins?iframe=yresults >> to see where you fit in. >> >> > Posted by: genilady@... ckutz@... >> > Date: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:55 pm ((PDT)) >> > >> > (Replying via web post) Thanks for the link, Marshall. I may have seen >> > that before, but studied it more closely this time. That is indeed my >> > line and I have emailed Jim. Which Y-DNA test would be helpful and what >> > is the approximate cost? My son is a 5th great grandson. Is that too >> > many generations back? >> > >> > Cindy Kutz >> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2332 Sender:Bob Robins Post Date/Time:2018-10-19 19:31:46 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robbins Columbia County, PA Message: Since he is not on a paternal Robbins line Y DNA isn't an option so your best bet is to do autosomal DNA (AncestryDNA, FTDNA Family Finder, 23andMe, MyHeritage DNA, etc) test on living descendants. I would recommend tes ting with AncestryDNA since they have the largest database and then upload the raw test data to FTDNA, MyHeritage and GEDmatch to look for additional matches. You should be able to find some matches with common ancestor s. If you wanted to get DNA from the lock of hair it would need need to have some of the hair roots as cut hair cannot be used for testing. In any case you would have to have tests done by a specialty lab (probably expensi ve) and would probably not be able to readily do matching to look for relatives. ā£Bob Robins Silver Spring, MDā€‹ On Oct 19, 2018, 5:22 PM, at 5:22 PM, "Dorman Nelson dormannelson@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: >Howdy Bob, > >I have a lock of hair of Liver Eating Johnston .... he is the grandson >of Dinah Robbins. What would I need to DNA Johnstonā€™s relationship? > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 19, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Bob Robins bob@... >[robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: >> >> If it runs anything like last year there will be a big FTDNA sale on >Y DNA tests starting around Thanksgiving through Christmas. >> >> I am one of the admins for the Robbins DNA project - I think there >might be some sort of discount for ordering through the project but I >would have to check with our other admin as I haven't run across an >order like that yet. Y37 is a reasonable starting point but Y67 would >be better if you can afford it. >> >> BTW my Robins ancestry is from Northumberland County PA (Sunbury >circa 1780) though as far as I can tell not directly related to the >Fishing Creek Robins. >> >> Bob Robins >> Silver Spring, MD >>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 1:11 PM, "Marshall Lake mlake@... >[robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: >>> >>> >>> The test you need is called the Y-DNA test. Y-DNA is passed only >along >>> the male line, so the person supplying the DNA sample needs to be a >male >>> with the ROBINS/ROBBINS surname. >>> >>> There is a ROBINS/ROBBINS DNA Project at >>> https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Robbins >>> >>> Unfortunately the Y-DNA test is not cheap. A 37-marker test is $169, >and >>> more markers cost more. 37 markers should be enough to tell you what >you >>> need to know, but more markers are better. If you join the ROBBINS >DNA >>> Project above and then order a Y-DNA test through the group you may >get a >>> discount. (A person used to get a discount. I don't know if that is >>> still in effect.) Also, there are times during the year when >>> familytreedna.com (ftdna) offers sales. For Y-DNA tests they have >offered >>> sales around Fathers' Day in the past. >>> >>> After getting the results of your Y-DNA test you can compare them to >>> https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Robins?iframe=yresults >>> to see where you fit in. >>> >>> > Posted by: genilady@... ckutz@... >>> > Date: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:55 pm ((PDT)) >>> > >>> > (Replying via web post) Thanks for the link, Marshall. I may have >seen >>> > that before, but studied it more closely this time. That is indeed >my >>> > line and I have emailed Jim. Which Y-DNA test would be helpful and >what >>> > is the approximate cost? My son is a 5th great grandson. Is that >too >>> > many generations back? >>> > >>> > Cindy Kutz >>> >>> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2333 Sender:Dorman Nelson Post Date/Time:2018-10-20 01:51:19 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robbins Columbia County, PA Message: Thank you! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:31 PM, Bob Robins bob@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > Since he is not on a paternal Robbins line Y DNA isn't an option so your best bet is to do autosomal DNA (AncestryDNA, FTDNA Family Finder, 23andMe, MyHeritage DNA, etc) test on living descendants. I would recommend t esting with AncestryDNA since they have the largest database and then upload the raw test data to FTDNA, MyHeritage and GEDmatch to look for additional matches. You should be able to find some matches with common ancest ors. > > If you wanted to get DNA from the lock of hair it would need need to have some of the hair roots as cut hair cannot be used for testing. In any case you would have to have tests done by a specialty lab (probably expen sive) and would probably not be able to readily do matching to look for relatives. > > Bob Robins > Silver Spring, MD >> On Oct 19, 2018, at 5:22 PM, "Dorman Nelson dormannelson@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: >> >> Howdy Bob, >> >> >> I have a lock of hair of Liver Eating Johnston .... he is the grandson of Dinah Robbins. What would I need to DNA Johnstonā€™s relationship? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 19, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Bob Robins bob@robins.net [robbinsfamilysociety] < robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> If it runs anything like last year there will be a big FTDNA sale on Y DNA tests starting around Thanksgiving through Christmas. >>> >>> I am one of the admins for the Robbins DNA project - I think there might be some sort of discount for ordering through the project but I would have to check with our other admin as I haven't run across an order like that yet. Y37 is a reasonable starting point but Y67 would be better if you can afford it. >>> >>> BTW my Robins ancestry is from Northumberland County PA (Sunbury circa 1780) though as far as I can tell not directly related to the Fishing Creek Robins. >>> >>> Bob Robins >>> Silver Spring, MD >>>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 1:11 PM, "Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety]" < robbinsfamilysociety@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> The test you need is called the Y-DNA test. Y-DNA is passed only along >>>> the male line, so the person supplying the DNA sample needs to be a male >>>> with the ROBINS/ROBBINS surname. >>>> >>>> There is a ROBINS/ROBBINS DNA Project at >>>> https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Robbins >>>> >>>> Unfortunately the Y-DNA test is not cheap. A 37-marker test is $169, and >>>> more markers cost more. 37 markers should be enough to tell you what you >>>> need to know, but more markers are better. If you join the ROBBINS DNA >>>> Project above and then order a Y-DNA test through the group you may get a >>>> discount. (A person used to get a discount. I don't know if that is >>>> still in effect.) Also, there are times during the year when >>>> familytreedna.com (ftdna) offers sales. For Y-DNA tests they have offered >>>> sales around Fathers' Day in the past. >>>> >>>> After getting the results of your Y-DNA test you can compare them to >>>> https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Robins?iframe=yresults >>>> to see where you fit in. >>>> >>>> > Posted by: genilady@... ckutz@ptd.net >>>> > Date: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:55 pm ((PDT)) >>>> > >>>> > (Replying via web post) Thanks for the link, Marshall. I may have seen >>>> > that before, but studied it more closely this time. That is indeed my >>>> > line and I have emailed Jim. Which Y-DNA test would be helpful and what >>>> > is the approximate cost? My son is a 5th great grandson. Is that too >>>> > many generations back? >>>> > >>>> > Cindy Kutz >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2334 Sender:genilady@... Post Date/Time:2018-10-20 06:17:05 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robbins Columbia County, PA Message: Bob, Who is your earliest known Robbins direct ancestor in Northumberland county ( now Columbia County)? Cindy Kutz ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2335 Sender:genilady@... Post Date/Time:2018-10-20 06:19:00 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robbins Columbia County, PA Message: What is Liver Eatingā€™s given name, Dorman? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2336 Sender:genilady@... Post Date/Time:2018-10-20 06:27:28 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robbins Columbia County, PA Message: I donā€™t know of any male Robbins to test. However, I have had my autosomal DNA tested with FamilyTree and uploaded to GEDmatch. I havenā€™t checked GEDmatch lately, but will do that soon. Cindy Kutz ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2337 Sender:Bob Robins Post Date/Time:2018-10-20 07:01:08 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robbins Columbia County, PA Message: My earliest confirmed Robins ancestor is Aaron Robins from Sunbury (which is still in Northumberland County), born around 1780. My best guess is that Aaron is the unnamed child mentioned in the will of William Robins who died in 1780. William's will also mentioned the child's mother (Mary Everhart) and his brother (Zachariah) and sister (Marabe) . Zachariah was in Sunbury as early as 1770 and William appears there in records a few years later. Best evidence so far for William as Aaron's father is that Aaron's will includes several lots in Sunbury that were orig inally warranted to William in 1774-1776. I have a positive DNA connection (FTDNA Y111 & Big Y) to the family of Daniel Robins of New Jersey, c1627-c1714. ā£Bob Robins Silver Spring, MDā€‹ On Oct 20, 2018, 9:20 AM, at 9:20 AM, "genilady@gmail.com [robbinsfamilysociety]" wrote: >Bob, >Who is your earliest known Robbins direct ancestor in Northumberland >county ( now Columbia County)? > >Cindy Kutz ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2338 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-10-20 08:51:59 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robbins Columbia County, PA Message: Bob, Can you tell us about your ROBINS line? Or maybe you have a tree posted somewhere? > Posted by: "Bob Robins" bob@... > Date: Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:25 am ((PDT)) > > BTW my Robins ancestry is from Northumberland County PA (Sunbury circa 1780) though as far as I can tell not directly related to the Fishing Creek Robins. > > ā£Bob Robins > Silver Spring, MDā€‹ -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2339 Sender:Dorman Nelson Post Date/Time:2018-12-14 07:11:09 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Robbins Columbia County, PA Message: His name is William Garrison. His brother was John garrison. Sis Matilda was the go getter in the family. I am trying to find his birth. I think it was 1832. 2 years from Matildaā€™s. Isaac Garrison was the father. Dinah Robbins was grandmother. William was born near Little York NJ Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 20, 2018, at 8:19 AM, genilady@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > What is Liver Eatingā€™s given name, Dorman? > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2340 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-12-15 09:47:52 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William GARRISON (was: Robbins Columbia County, PA) Message: You already have this, Dorman, but I'll present it here in case there are any other comments. According to a pension application (filed 21 Jan 1881) in NJ by William's father, Isaac, William was born in 1831. According to an affidavit (dated 24 Feb 1883) in NJ by William's father, Isaac, William was born in 1830 or 1831. According to a voter's registration in 1890 in Red Lodge, MT (from info assumed to be provided by William - age 66) he was born in 1823 or 1824. According to a voter's registration in 1894 in Red Lodge, MT (from info assumed to be provided by William - age 69) he was born in 1824 or 1825. According to a pension increase application (dated 8 Dec 1890) in Park Co, MT assumed to be by William (age 66), he was born in 1823 or 1824. > Posted by: "Dorman Nelson" dormannelson@... dormannelson@... > Date: Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:11 am ((PST)) > > His name is William Garrison. His brother was John > garrison. Sis Matilda was the go getter in the family. > > I am trying to find his birth. I think it was 1832. 2 years from Matildaā€™s. > > Isaac Garrison was the father. > Dinah Robbins was grandmother. > William was born near Little York NJ -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2341 Sender:Dorman Nelson Post Date/Time:2018-12-15 09:59:58 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] William GARRISON (was: Robbins Columbia County, PA) Message: Thanks, I have other documents and his sea faring sign ins on the coast ports that Indicate 1832. His sis mentioned her brother and her as two years apart in a news article. And in censusā€™ William and John being ā€˜farmed ā€™ out help to local farms. Matilda also. I really need a birth announcement or papers locally...either in NJ or in Penn. as the family had ties both places. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 15, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > You already have this, Dorman, but I'll present it here in case there are > any other comments. > > According to a pension application (filed 21 Jan 1881) in NJ by William's > father, Isaac, William was born in 1831. > > According to an affidavit (dated 24 Feb 1883) in NJ by William's father, > Isaac, William was born in 1830 or 1831. > > According to a voter's registration in 1890 in Red Lodge, MT (from info > assumed to be provided by William - age 66) he was born in 1823 or 1824. > > According to a voter's registration in 1894 in Red Lodge, MT (from info > assumed to be provided by William - age 69) he was born in 1824 or 1825. > > According to a pension increase application (dated 8 Dec 1890) in Park Co, > MT assumed to be by William (age 66), he was born in 1823 or 1824. > > > Posted by: "Dorman Nelson" dormannelson@... dormannelson@... > > Date: Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:11 am ((PST)) > > > > His name is William Garrison. His brother was John > > garrison. Sis Matilda was the go getter in the family. > > > > I am trying to find his birth. I think it was 1832. 2 years from Matildaā€™s. > > > > Isaac Garrison was the father. > > Dinah Robbins was grandmother. > > William was born near Little York NJ > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2342 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-12-16 17:41:35 Subject:Re: William GARRISON (was: Robbins Columbia County, PA) Message: I left home this morning and do not have access to my resources while on the road. I'm sure I've asked this before, but is there *any* chance that JOHNSTON could really be John GARRISON rather than William? (I realize John was supposed to have died during the Civil War.) Without having access to my docs it seems to me that John is named as being born in 1824 in his father's pension application. Has John's birth record ever been located? > 1b. Re: William GARRISON (was: Robbins Columbia County, PA) > Posted by: "Dorman Nelson" dormannelson@... dormannelson@... > Date: Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:00 am ((PST)) > > Thanks, I have other documents and his sea faring sign ins on the coast ports that Indicate 1832. His sis mentioned her brother and her as two years apart in a news article. And in censusā€™ William and John being ā€˜farm edā€™ out help to local farms. Matilda also. > > I really need a birth announcement or papers locally...either in NJ or in Penn. as the family had ties both places. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 15, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: >> >> >> You already have this, Dorman, but I'll present it here in case there are >> any other comments. >> >> According to a pension application (filed 21 Jan 1881) in NJ by William's >> father, Isaac, William was born in 1831. >> >> According to an affidavit (dated 24 Feb 1883) in NJ by William's father, >> Isaac, William was born in 1830 or 1831. >> >> According to a voter's registration in 1890 in Red Lodge, MT (from info >> assumed to be provided by William - age 66) he was born in 1823 or 1824. >> >> According to a voter's registration in 1894 in Red Lodge, MT (from info >> assumed to be provided by William - age 69) he was born in 1824 or 1825. >> >> According to a pension increase application (dated 8 Dec 1890) in Park Co, >> MT assumed to be by William (age 66), he was born in 1823 or 1824. >> >>> Posted by: "Dorman Nelson" dormannelson@... dormannelson@... >>> Date: Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:11 am ((PST)) >>> >>> His name is William Garrison. His brother was John >>> garrison. Sis Matilda was the go getter in the family. >>> >>> I am trying to find his birth. I think it was 1832. 2 years from Matildaā€™s. >>> >>> Isaac Garrison was the father. >>> Dinah Robbins was grandmother. >>> William was born near Little York NJ >> >> -- >> Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2343 Sender:Dorman Nelson Post Date/Time:2018-12-16 21:00:35 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: William GARRISON (was: Robbins Columbia County, PA) Message: Howdy Marshall, I did finally find John Garrisonā€™s army files and the National Park Service finally found his grave. His family did not have him moved or buried locally. He is in a National Cemetery. With the wrong date of death.. He was shot in the head as a sharpshooter at the very beginning of the Battles of Cold Harbor. He had re-upped with a bonus and was made S GT. I have censusā€™ from William and John working for various farm owners around Little York, and moreā€¦.. John was about 22-24, (I have the exact age)...or so when he died in 1864. He was much younger than Matilda and William. Matilda handled most of the family business like Gā€™ma Dinah did. So she kept track of the relativ esā€¦.The last of her line died in the late 50s and the trunks full of letters and paperwork, furniture, etc.. were sold at auction. Dorman > On Dec 16, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > I left home this morning and do not have access to my resources while on > the road. > > I'm sure I've asked this before, but is there *any* chance that JOHNSTON > could really be John GARRISON rather than William? (I realize John was > supposed to have died during the Civil War.) > > Without having access to my docs it seems to me that John is named as > being born in 1824 in his father's pension application. Has John's birth > record ever been located? > > > 1b. Re: William GARRISON (was: Robbins Columbia County, PA) > > Posted by: "Dorman Nelson" dormannelson@... dormannelson@... > > Date: Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:00 am ((PST)) > > > > Thanks, I have other documents and his sea faring sign ins on the coast ports that Indicate 1832. His sis mentioned her brother and her as two years apart in a news article. And in censusā€™ William and John being ā€˜fa rmedā€™ out help to local farms. Matilda also. > > > > I really need a birth announcement or papers locally...either in NJ or in Penn. as the family had ties both places. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Dec 15, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > >> > >> > >> You already have this, Dorman, but I'll present it here in case there are > >> any other comments. > >> > >> According to a pension application (filed 21 Jan 1881) in NJ by William's > >> father, Isaac, William was born in 1831. > >> > >> According to an affidavit (dated 24 Feb 1883) in NJ by William's father, > >> Isaac, William was born in 1830 or 1831. > >> > >> According to a voter's registration in 1890 in Red Lodge, MT (from info > >> assumed to be provided by William - age 66) he was born in 1823 or 1824. > >> > >> According to a voter's registration in 1894 in Red Lodge, MT (from info > >> assumed to be provided by William - age 69) he was born in 1824 or 1825. > >> > >> According to a pension increase application (dated 8 Dec 1890) in Park Co, > >> MT assumed to be by William (age 66), he was born in 1823 or 1824. > >> > >>> Posted by: "Dorman Nelson" dormannelson@... dormannelson@... > >>> Date: Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:11 am ((PST)) > >>> > >>> His name is William Garrison. His brother was John > >>> garrison. Sis Matilda was the go getter in the family. > >>> > >>> I am trying to find his birth. I think it was 1832. 2 years from Matildaā€™s. > >>> > >>> Isaac Garrison was the father. > >>> Dinah Robbins was grandmother. > >>> William was born near Little York NJ > >> > >> -- > >> Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2344 Sender:Marshall Lake Post Date/Time:2018-12-17 15:45:41 Subject:Re: William GARRISON (was: Robbins Columbia County, PA) Message: It would be great to find those documents/letters which were sold at auction! Do you know which National Cemetery John is buried in? > Posted by: "Dorman Nelson" dormannelson@... dormannelson@... > Date: Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:33 pm ((PST)) > > Howdy Marshall, > I did finally find John Garrisonā€™s army files and the National Park Service finally found his grave. His family did not have him moved > or buried locally. He is in a National Cemetery. With the wrong date of death.. He was shot in the head as a sharpshooter at the very beginning of the Battles of Cold Harbor. He had re-upped with a bonus and was made SGT. I have censusā€™ from William and John working > for various farm owners around Little York, and moreā€¦.. > John was about 22-24, (I have the exact age)...or so when he died in 1864. He was much younger than Matilda and William. Matilda handled most of the family business like Gā€™ma Dinah did. So she kept track of the relat ivesā€¦.The last of her line died in the late 50s and the trunks full of letters and paperwork, furniture, etc.. were sold at auction. > > Dorman >> On Dec 16, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: >> >> >> I left home this morning and do not have access to my resources while on >> the road. >> >> I'm sure I've asked this before, but is there *any* chance that JOHNSTON >> could really be John GARRISON rather than William? (I realize John was >> supposed to have died during the Civil War.) >> >> Without having access to my docs it seems to me that John is named as >> being born in 1824 in his father's pension application. Has John's birth >> record ever been located? -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@... -- http://www.mlake.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post ID:2345 Sender:Dorman Nelson Post Date/Time:2018-12-17 17:31:41 Subject:Re: [robbinsfamilysociety] Re: William GARRISON (was: Robbins Columbia County, PA) Message: I have all the info and his Union Army papers and more papers because his father applied for pensions for having lost his sons. BUT. not available until I unload 176 boxes out of the trailer and go through them....which will be awhile. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 17, 2018, at 4:45 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > > > It would be great to find those documents/letters which were sold at > auction! > > Do you know which National Cemetery John is buried in? > > > Posted by: "Dorman Nelson" dormannelson@... dormannelson@... > > Date: Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:33 pm ((PST)) > > > > Howdy Marshall, > > I did finally find John Garrisonā€™s army files and the National Park Service finally found his grave. His family did not have him moved > > or buried locally. He is in a National Cemetery. With the wrong date of death.. He was shot in the head as a sharpshooter at the very beginning of the Battles of Cold Harbor. He had re-upped with a bonus and was mad e SGT. I have censusā€™ from William and John working > > for various farm owners around Little York, and moreā€¦.. > > John was about 22-24, (I have the exact age)...or so when he died in 1864. He was much younger than Matilda and William. Matilda handled most of the family business like Gā€™ma Dinah did. So she kept track of the rela tivesā€¦.The last of her line died in the late 50s and the trunks full of letters and paperwork, furniture, etc.. were sold at auction. > > > > Dorman > > >> On Dec 16, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Marshall Lake mlake@... [robbinsfamilysociety] wrote: > >> > >> > >> I left home this morning and do not have access to my resources while on > >> the road. > >> > >> I'm sure I've asked this before, but is there *any* chance that JOHNSTON > >> could really be John GARRISON rather than William? (I realize John was > >> supposed to have died during the Civil War.) > >> > >> Without having access to my docs it seems to me that John is named as > >> being born in 1824 in his father's pension application. Has John's birth > >> record ever been located? > > -- > Marshall Lake -- mlake@...t -- http://www.mlake.net > >